[000:00:00;00] the current leader of belarus, oleksandr lukashenko, said that he supports the peace plan proposed by china to settle the war between russia and ukraine . lukashenko made this statement during a visit to the deceased. thus , belarus joined several countries, including hungary and kazakhstan, which publicly expressed support for the chinese peace plan in ukraine until china's proposals were received coldly . mykhailo podalyak, adviser to the president's office, says that this plan will only lead to a freeze in the war and ukraine's good fortune in the future. some commentators point out that china's peace proposals do not differentiate between the aggressor russia and the victim of ukraine's attack, also in kyiv they believe that china is talking only with russia, where, for example , the ex-head of chinese diplomacy visited last week, and now the current communist party functionary wangi, but at the same time beijing did not conducts a dialogue with kyiv

, meanwhile, the usa warned china about the possible supply of lethal weapons to russia, it was in particular about attack drones, the possibility of such supplies has been written for a couple of weeks now by the international the press and us secretary of state anthony blinken said that china cannot simultaneously make peace proposals and at the same time supply weapons to russia, when it comes to russian aggression against ukraine, it cannot make peace proposals on the one hand and, on the other hand, add fuel to the fire that russia started with its war, i hope that china will take very seriously what we say and what other countries in the world say, it will refrain from supporting russia with weapons in its war with

china's peace plan and whether the prc is really preparing to transfer weapons to russia, we are talking about it further ruslana osypenko diplomats international expert in touch with us good evening good evening if not only the press is reporting about the alleged plans of china to supply russia with legal lethal weapons, but the us secretary of state is talking about it , the adviser to the president warns before this us security affairs jx sullivan spoke about this, he already spoke about the fact that such intentions exist, they are serious and we need to talk about them seriously, in fact, china is not ready to supply weapons, uh, because uh, uh having presented his peace initiative, it is not a plan, because the plan is the executors , there are deadlines for implementation, and specific actions that must be taken by certain deadlines, this is an initiative , a positional material in diplomacy is called a nan-paper, and he is starting political and diplomatic maneuvers with that goal in order to prevent russia from losing. this plan appeared exactly

one year after russia began to lose on the battlefield and that is why china joined this game eh in politics so far in a political-diplomatic way and it will try to break the plans of the coalition eh first not to allow russia to lose, the second point is what he will do, he will break up the euro-atlantic coalition, and i think that we will soon see a struggle for europe and european leaders, because it is precisely in this regard that this is already being drafted, by the way among the european leaders, she is already the first to support the initiative. i think these political maneuvers will continue and will continue, and the third step is only when china is unsuccessful in these two first steps, then it can through its satellites and not directly because it is actually er, by presenting this peacekeeping initiative and the second goal is to strengthen his international position as a peacemaker in

front of the countries of the global rooster, he is already acting as the leader of the countries of the global rooster , actually building an alternative system of international relations built by the united states after the second world war, that is, this is an existential a challenge for the united states and we can observe an increasing confrontation actually between china and the united states, here there is little, well, not insignificant relation of this peace initiative to ukraine, there are several points of everything about ukraine there are about blocs about removing the nato bloc from the european continent so that china, russia, the countries of europe build a unified security system without the united states without the influence of the united states about the restoration of global production and logistics chains that let's trade and not fight, that's why china took such global steps having started these maneuvers, he is not yet ready to supply weapons, but if you do, the war

will drag on and russia will lose and china will fail on these first two points to break plans and break alliances, he can go to the direct supply of weapons through allies, as i said, creating vases , or he will create a lever of pressure on the united states, thereby promising to connect and the potential for the united states to already influence ukraine so that it sits behind table victory mr. osypenko why so why er china might be interested in not letting russia lose i am here i want to understand whether china in the short term er perspective is interested in russia being able to wage this war longer or in in principle, i am not interested in russia losing russia's loss affects the weakening of china why because if russia is reformed by the west into a democratic country , it will actually fulfill the task of containing china, china will lose its

lead base and strategic strategic rear in fact and then he will be dependent on the supply of the sea. and this sea is very dangerous. the sea is controlled by the american fleet and the cold allies , therefore, russia is a wonderful base for china , which opposes the west. the other day, in moscow, he visited england. this is the former head of the chinese diplomacy, he was received at the highest level, now we see that oleksandr lukashenko is in china now, and he also supported this chinese peace initiative. let's listen to what kyiv says about this peace plan, and then we'll return to the discussion , now we'll listen to the temporarily moderate ukrainian in china zhanna leshchynska of course, to do everything in his power to stop the war, to restore peace in ukraine and to call on russia to withdraw its troops and to talk with both russia and

ukraine, and now we see that the chinese the party mainly communicates with russia, but not with ukraine, so why is there practically no dialogue between china and ukraine, you are so direct , well, china already considers ukraine as a member of the western democratic camp of ukraine, and if we analyze more carefully even the terminology a-a that was used by china in this peaceful to the initiative, so to speak, to the positional material, you will find it, you will not find it, you will not find a war there, you will not find a ukrainian-russian war, you will find a ukrainian crisis, and the terminology means a lot if you define what it is the ukrainian crisis, you say the subtext is such that you say that it started with an internal conflict inside ukraine, and then you have document after document of the parties to the conflict that russia, on whose border this crisis unfolded

, was forced to intervene, that is, there are other subtexts here which should be looked at in the texts themselves, why is this the case in china , russia is treated as an ally that actually helps to solve the strategic task of not fighting globalizing hygienists by the united states of america, which lead this the security system of international relations, which was created as a result of the second world war, because in russia the concept is a multipolar world, you remember that they also opposed the hegemony of the united states of america in china, the concept of a community of a common destiny for humanity, where is there between a civilizational university without the dominance of any civilization, the same thing, only in other words, that is, there should be no hegemon, everyone should be equal, harmony, development, and so on, they are allies in the actual struggle

against the united states of america on their at a recent press conference, president volodymyr zelenskyi said that he is not against a meeting with siedenpiny, and here we return to the direct dialogue between china and beijing. do you think that the visit of the chinese leader to ukraine is real? well, despite what you just said . despite this, can we have it? some kind of symbolic a-a meaning and i have great doubts er that such a visit can be er-er i think that all day-pin er-er the best option can offer our president to visit beijing but for xixingpin to come to before that, a lot of work has to be done. we didn't have contacts at the highest level, not at the level of presidents , not at the level of prime ministers. the government commission worked there. but it didn't work because in order to

he made business cards and he is considering the system country, he is considering the visit of his leader already if the work has been done by all the ministries at all levels and then he goes , as they say, to consecrate all the work that was done just like that, well, it will be some kind of violation of the protocol of etiquette, you know from the point china's point of view well, political correctness, they said that russia and their strategic partner have strategic cooperation without borders, and we see that china from the very beginning , having all the documents and all the opportunities to stop the war, and it has signed with ukraine made a declaration on strategic cooperation in 2011 from the 97th year, it is a grant according to the budapest memorandum, it has an agreement from 2013 on friendship and cooperation with ukraine, but we did not hear a condemnation of the war , a year has passed and now the peace initiative has just appeared in a year a-a and about by the way says that a year later this border initiative appeared, it is generally good, such a good

signal for ukraine or not, it is evidence that russia has begun to lose the war and that the alliance of democratic countries is actually winning over the alliance of authoritarian countries and that is why china is included in this game in order to in order to change the configuration of this geopolitical situation in order not to prevent the final defeat of russia . well, let's return to the question of the supply, the probable supply of weapons to china, to russia. what factor does the usa play? we just remember that first of all of a full-scale invasion, i met with biden yesterday, and then we talked about what biden should have said these days , that any support for russia can end badly for china itself. are china afraid of sanctions from the us, or is the us ready to impose these sanctions if indeed china will provide weapons even if through intermediaries . well, let's analyze the statements of the parties , first of all, china said that it is the united states and

a coalition of european countries that add fuel to the fire of war. oh, yes, italy adheres instead, the united states declared that it is ready to publish documents that prove that china was preparing to supply certain military goods, this is an informational informational confrontation , an informational confrontation . was aimed at the fact that the second task of this initiative is to propose it to the west when the west has already developed its own initiative so that the west rejects it and thereby discredits the west that it is not for peace, it rejects china's proposals and it supplies weapons to the conflict zone, china offers peace and does not supply weapons to the conflict zone , this is also ipso, psychological operations are behind it , in fact, we are observing an increase

in the confrontation between the united states and china, but in the information sphere, this is an exchange of such things as they say step by step in these political diplomatic maneuvers , we will understandably continue to follow the foreign policy maneuvers of beijing, washington and moscow when it comes to the actual war in ukraine and china's support of russia in to this war. thank you very much for joining our broadcast and helping us figure it out. diplomat and international expert ruslan osypenko of pvk rrodan has been actively talking about this youth movement of russian origin in recent days on social networks and in the media, and this is because its members are mostly ukrainian. it is minor children who planned to arrange mass fights, for example in lviv, kyiv and kharkiv, according to the police report, the actions of teenagers were managed to be overtaken and mass fights

were prevented, even in russia, such fights have already taken place, in particular, in the shopping centers of moscow, but what most outrages ukrainian commentators is that during the full-scale war with russia, ukrainian youth probably still continue to be in the russian , albeit informal, cultural space. the very name of the movement includes the abbreviation pvk, which probably comes from the group pvk wagner , who is fighting in the east of ukraine against the armed forces of ukraine, the fact that ukrainian teenagers during the war with russia choose to join the movement with such a name , according to some observers, is inappropriate and testifies to the serious loyalty of ukrainian children in the russian information space, despite the blocking of russian media resources and russian social networks in ukraine. the head of the main directorate of the national police in the kharkiv region, volodymyr tymoshko, on his facebook called pvk rodan a design of the fsb, and in russia itself , the authorities disowned this subculture and the spokesperson of the president of russia condemned it dmytro

peskov said that this is a pseudo-culture with a minus sign and does not bring anything good to our youth . demands to ban pvkryodan on the internet, why do ukrainian teenagers organize mass fights and what exactly are those minors who were detained in kyiv and kharkiv defending how this movement spread to ukraine and how the participants themselves explain the prefix pvk in their name , max grabovskyi explained how the kyiv police reported about the detention of the administrators of two telegram channels

of the youth movement rydan or rydan and their opponents , minors , allegedly planned to organize meetings that could end in a fight, the loss of a group that was set against the so-called chvk rydan did not repeat these actions and did not set up did not set up against each other i am the creator of the e-e group of dude rotan kiev and i want to say that i asked this group to the hype council there well, as now this topic has become violent with the rowan of tiktok and social the networks warned of possible mass fights outside of kyiv, and in kharkiv the local police reported, in particular, in kharkiv, a criminal case was opened about mass riots and the involvement of minors in illegal activities, and regarding the parents of minors , juvenile prevention workers drew up 72

protocols, investigative actions are ongoing, the organizers of the mass event are setting up a strange flash mob that was launched in the russian federation reached our city . in short, the meaning of the flash mob is to arrange a fight in the city with other teenagers. the police have identified 245 people, of which 30 are adults among minors, 149 were boys and 66 were girls. in social networks, there was information about such gatherings of teenagers, in particular in zhytomyr ivano-frankivsk. and in lviv , the subculture was born precisely in russia. the other day , the russian mass media reported on the detention of large groups of participants in riodan riots. in several russian cities, more than 200 people were detained.

the yodanites in gomel were also informed by the ministry of internal affairs of belarus once two three otam he binds everyone in the description of one of the allegedly ukrainian telegram channels of the movement it is said in russian that the community does not promote violence and does not call for violations i quote the laws of ukrainians, but in recent days this informal movement has attracted attention precisely because of mass fights, riots took place, in particular, in russian shopping centers in moscow and st. petersburg. on social networks , supporters of the movement explain their goal as a struggle for justice and freedom of expression. this is a quote from the explanations of one of the leaders of the rydan communist party from russian krasnoyarsk , opponents are considered to be those who persecute informal youth for clothes, hairstyles, preferences , etc., in particular skinheads-

hooligans. fighting fights, the subculture symbols were taken from the manga and anime hunter vs hunter, there appears a criminal organization genei rudan with a spider emblem, but the very idea of ​​such activity was borrowed by ukrainian teenagers from the russian infospace. in the official notification of the national police of ukraine, it is said that the spread of such a subculture is an attempt by russian propagandists to conduct another and pso and involve teenagers in illegal activities, however, on february 28, the state duma of russia demanded that the supervisory board prohibit the distribution of the content related to the leydan pvc, in relation to the abbreviation that is now associated with the wagner pvc, officially declared by the us authorities to be a transnational criminal organization , representatives of the new community assure that they have nothing to do with military formations, and the letters pvc to the name rydan are said to have been added for the sake of a joke, maksym grabovskyi radio svoboda

today also it became known that the police detained two administrators of rydan channels who were planning to organize a fight among teenagers in the darnytskyi district of kyiv, so is there a threat the national security of ukraine due to the spread of this subculture , and can russia really be behind it? can you explain on our broadcast once again why it is definitely not the fsb, as the representatives of the ukrainian police say about it in particular, uh, i am watching the unfolding of information waves, including those that attack ukraine a-a since 2011, long before the a-a war began, we published a book called the white book of special

information operations against ukraine from 2014 to 2018. my experience tells me that now the picture we see with the dissemination of this information which is carried out very intensively, very quickly and on a very large scale, and to design such a process is almost unbelievable, you and i are talking right now on radio svoboda, before this i have already conducted several up to 10 broadcasts in the last 48 hours there , the general audience of the distribution of this brand which is called ryadan is according to my calculations, there are about 200 million e-e recipients because it has already appeared on tv, if the special services knew how to do this , you and i would simply have been wiped off the face of the earth e-e by february 21 well, let's say so until february 19:21

in 2023, there was practically no information about this subcultural movement in widespread use, it was some internal chats , some niche sources of information, besides , this spot has practically no speakers, uh, there are no public people who speak, yes, this is what we will establish or vk and ice and i believe that there is every reason to think that for dispersal of this information, in particular, in the russian federation, large-scale financial funds were used, and it could be funds that were allowed to pay individual teenagers or a separate organizer in order for them to disperse this information so that they these are the kinds of fights that were arranged in order for them to organize some kind of public actions there, and in this context , my attention is very much attracted by

the abbreviation chvk, which is considered in russian federation is the same - this is the proper name of the transnationalization organization evgenia prigozhina, which is called wagner, and in this case, it seems to me that there are reasons to also think that this technology was used to make wagner's organization toxic, that is, to create hype and show that vk is something bad. i think it is possible to talk about the fact that there are some political forces inside the russian federation who are very worried and do not like what yevgeny prigozhin is doing now. they are not comfortable and all believe that it should be stopped and they were ready to allocate special financial funds for this purpose to find creative young people and can make such big moves in the russian information e-e, but at a certain stage this whole operation

simply got out of control simply because it just got into the target audience what is called got into the expectation of the target audience, namely to young people aged there from 11 to 12 to 18 years old who are at the moment very very vulnerable in what are adults in in russia, they say that everything is fine with us, we are big and we are conducting a special military operation during the nazi era, but in fact , this war is also reflected on children and the terrorist regime that exists in russia. it has a very serious effect on teenagers, collecting their futures and actually carrying them out violence is no secret that it has found its favorites, it has also found people who like to hit each other's faces and in this way they demonstrate their own subjectivity, or for such processes

, in principle, the same can be said about the territory belarus, where it has already been reported that the same processes are taking place there. well, of course, ukraine, which is a victim of this war, and i think that we have not even come close to studying the question. will be for that, in particular, they just say that flash mobs and actually the subculture itself was able to spread to both belarus and ukraine. this is due to the fact that the information space still continues to be shared, at least for children because still there are still platforms through which it is possible to do this. and i understand that the fact that in ukraine they understand russian, they speak russian, and actually the children of the war, who may have been born there or began to become conscious during that time, is very important. as the war with russia has already been going on, they continue to speak russian , this is a factor here and would it be possible to, well

, if we work with this very thing. in this way , limiting the possibility of such flash mobs to get into ukraine in general, the direction of thoughts is very correct, in general, to limit something in the information space is so called the death of the business. and i think that our big problem remains that the diffusion of content and the diffusion of ideas in this space, which is connected to the great pity of the russian language, it continues and its premise is that it will go and to the great extent does not itself give birth to such subcultures that can be interesting and so favorable for the adolescent target audience, although the sprouts of this and actually the possibility that this can happen, they are definitely there, remember at least this flash mob about the song our father

bandera is a ukrainian-mother who was born in tikka in general and uh, in fact, the youth and teenage audience began to replicate him . there were even videos from classes where the teacher was shocked by such songs. and it was also such a maximalist form of protest. that is, it speaks of the fact that we can do this on our own territory with our own tricks , it is technologically possible, it is simply impossible to manage it, but the more you invest in it, the more it will rise , obviously people who would need it, who were are interested in investing the first financial infusions in the dissemination of this information. perhaps they had some political goal, i do not rule out that it was directed specifically against the beautiful, but then these financial infusions they simply fell on such fertile ground and it started our goal - the view should be a lot in the fact that we have to think about what kind of subcultural

processes would be created that would suit us in the ukrainian information shop and they would be favorable for the entire ukrainian audience and for the adolescent, for the youth and first of all, they were also interesting, if we were to talk about the influence , you said about it, the influence on the psyche of ukrainian children, on their beliefs, preferences, this is what in particular is the prefix pvk, so it turns out that those who join these communities are teenagers , minor children, they do not see that's the problem, what can this indicate? i don't think that everyone even knows what chvk or pvk is, i'm not sure that when entering these communities , young people wonder what this abbreviation of the letters e-e means. well, you and i know this because we live in it all the time

in the information space, a huge number of people, especially of a young age, may not be familiar with this content at all, and i believe that this profile could have been used manipulatively. and now it is explained by the members of these communities that it was just done for fun and therefore so, is there such a popular group in vk? it is, accordingly, prototype , yes, the combination of chvk is popular. and finally, i want to ask that a separate one, at least officially , is separated from loedan, and there are already statements from the kremlin and from other representatives of the russian authorities that this is absolutely some kind of hostile, bad story for russia . and this, as i understand it, does not mean that the cream cannot use it in a hybrid war against ukraine, of course we can see several processes at the same time, that is, i believe that the special service is not capable of creating such a thing from scratch , but that the fact that special services use

any kind of hype in order to cause harm is not what they do, and now that it already exists, when it is actively spreading in the ukrainian information space , it can definitely be actively used from this game, the ministry of defense of russia and the fsb and other special services, but it is the fact that we have 30 seconds, and i believe that by constantly paying attention to such hype, we are only helping them instead of discussing what we do not enough for our own development, we discuss what they are doing against us. we help them in this way. today we also actually talked about what ukraine should do . you mentioned it. thank you for joining our veter. we were accompanied by the executive director of the institute of information society dmytro zolotukhin, this is the end of the svoboda life broadcast, we will return to