[000:00:00;00] with any kind of hype in order to cause harm, yes, they are doing this, and now that it already exists, when it is actively spreading in the ukrainian information space , it can definitely be actively used from this game by the ministry of defense of russia and the fsb and other special services, but this is what we have for 30 seconds. i believe that we are constantly paying attention to such hahaha instead of discussing what we lack for our own development, we discuss what they are doing against us. this is how we help them. today we are the same. we talked about what ukraine should do, you mentioned it. thank you for joining our veter. we were with the executive director of the institute of post information society , dmytro zolotukhin . we will end the svoboda life

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a series of interviews different presenters with different people . i am lucky. i am interviewing vadym boychenko. he is the mayor of mariupol . he is a hero without a doubt, and this is his second term in this position. he started like her. many people in mariupol do not work at the azovstal plant. and now he and i will talk about exactly that, we will start with the future and then maybe dive into the past, but first, after all, i would like to focus on the future of mr. vadim. if you show up now, everyone will like it. good health. so, vadim boychenko, the mayor mariupol since the 15th of 2015, look sir, we are leading the first question. i don't know if i have ever asked you such questions, but i will ask . how do you see mariupol after the war? it will continue to be an industrial center, that is, there will be a desire to restore. well, there are your dreams.

you know, i understand that no one knows, but what are you talking about, what do you dream about, what kind of mariupol will it be? maybe the recreation zone, on the contrary, will not have any factories, but everything will be in services with hotels, because the sea is nearby, because it is like that for children, they say that there are no great depths there. just for such children, there are some opportunities, some pioneer camps, as there were once pioneer camps, will it be a modern city or a city of the 22nd century, when will there be some it specialists there, some silicon valley and so on and so on and so on and so on? it will be something transport or it is obvious that there are also such opportunities because there is a port and so on. what are your dreams, mr. mayor, and first of all i want to thank you for such an opportunity to dream together with you as a dear journalist whom

i respect very much and i want to express my respect for that ukrainian the opposition and for which you are fighting in advance, i will say so, that's why mariupol is also fighting on a professional level today and is forming such a general vision of the future of mariupol, we are not only dreaming, but already working and we have started this work thanks to the office there the president and the head of the military administration, who entrusted us with those tasks, we have already been working since september, that is, we are first of all forming such a general plan for the quick recovery of mariupol. that is, today we are forming plans for our return. and for example , this year's budget was formed first half a year we are outside the city limits, and the second half of the year we can return to the ukrainian liberated mariupol, the city of the hero , we are starting to restore it to disks, the way we

see and what exactly we see, that is, it is clear that the russian federation inflicted such a cruel and destructive force to show the whole world what they are capable of, taking into account mariupol, that is, they have all their fury, all their hostility and that's their fascism. they showed the whole world only in mariupol, destroying it by 50%. that is, 50 does not exist and we understand how much money is needed to quickly restore places to fix all your critical important infrastructure that they destroyed also very quickly in a week we were left without electricity , without water, without communication, that is, they meaningfully worked in preparation for this and a full-scale such a war and which they launched on february 24 and that is, we have today a report of such a 14 billion uah needed to quickly restore in 18 months the hero

of the cape of mariupol so that the utility company started working, medicine and education in the city started working heroes of mariupol, it is us today with our e-e partners who, thanks, were and remain with us today, these are our partners from the united states of america, from europe, this is yusei yebrdiya, her world bank, who already knew certain languages. that is, we have already signed certain contracts and we are working on exactly what we are working on, the first component, the americans hired four large architectural bureaus, which today are shaping the future, that is, the vision of the mission from mariupol, which has a hundred reasons why we are returning to the ukrainian mariupol , what will be the economic component, why am i going to mariupol, what exactly motivates me today to get up from lviv, from frankfurt, from warsaw and go to mariupol, and the answer to this is in

two components, we are building the one from mariupol first, which today remains in our heart, but what was scored today, what is us prevents us from returning because, god forbid, we will see what happened and it hurts - it's destroyed our future, which we never built, that is, we built a modern transparent world, and today that's why partners come to us because they saw what they drank, what the country - this is development, and mariupol is equal to what europe saw today, which saw the united states of america in mariupol, and we showed it to the whole world, and today , briefly answering what cities we will build, it will be ukrainian singapore.

the words singapore, i somehow began to think to myself. and if singapore, what if mariupol-singapore does this mean that it will be some kind of financial and economic service center , that is, will the azov steel plant named after illichai still stand there, these are all the giant plants that, on the one hand, provided a lot of work on the other hand, they also polluted the air a lot, and since singapore doesn't have that much there , it needs to have the second and third, fourth , and fifth, so it may and should be located there in the field of some metal casting opportunities, and maybe in our mariupol, we can limit ourselves to just transport it recreational e-e hub like this can be like that i just don't know it's just a clarifying question please mr. vadim your point of view is yes thank you for a meaningful question , it is necessary to understand what number of people we want to count on in the city of mariupol, i.e. how many

people we want to attract to our city , i.e. the city of mariupol before the start of the war, is a small town of 541,000 people. we want not only to preserve our community. we want to increase it, and in order to increase it, we need to create some such meanings who would give this work, would give the content of this work, form the price, the economy, the direction we have determined when where we want to move and this of our movement we want to discuss with the mariupol residents in the centers of mariupol, which we have created on the map of our state and, accordingly , giving it directly what there will be a metallurgical enterprise working in mariupol. yes , but they must change. that is, this is already a different meaning . another life. another enterprise is a modern enterprise where there is metallurgy and we do not see it. it works. there are certain jobs.

already different steel that is produced of a different quality of a different content, and with this premium class steel , we can create additional productions that would create, for example, bmw or mercedes would gather in mariupol, that is , create additional jobs and we understand that if we count how much damage today and damage was caused by the russian aggression directly in the city of mariupol, that is , they caused such huge damage to our state today. that is, you say that 14.5 billion euros are needed to restore our city that is, it will be a big construction, uh, that means big investments will come to the city of mariupol, it will also be overgrown, that is, there will be modern metallurgy that does not harm the air, does not harm the residents of mariupol, and exists nearby, it is not visible. there are logistics that today make it possible to reproduce and rebirth in

our region as a whole, that is, not only metallurgical fish and serious for this production will arrive, but also materials will arrive for the construction of that modern mariupol which we will build yes, we want to emphasize our geographical special, that is, we have to find the most square in the world , that is, we have to use it, the geographical feature of our mariupol and we have to do it, that is , we want to create a recreation and under ture as a reaction we want to create an educational environment which was from - created mariupol education that will be created in mariupol these are modern hospitals and campuses that will work for it and create additional jobs and create future doctors directly in to the city of mariupol for the whole state, not only for mariupol for the whole state, i.e. the youth will come for this, and the youth will create this environment for this

, medium and small businesses will also be created for this , and we also want to tighten the it environment that has already been created in mariupol, for example if you look at mariupol in the 15th year, how many it specialists were there in mariupol? well, there were 200. and how many did they spend at the beginning of the war in september? by the way, how do we have our respected journalist, that is, in in september, we already made such a community. 2000 people gathered to talk about the environment of mariupol. that is, we want to recreate it and increase it every year , adding that it is necessary for young people to have comfortable living conditions, that is, we must create comfortable education and quality education in mariupol. in mariupol, we must revive educational de-occupation, cultural-de-occupation, create in mariupol as the foundation of our nation, our state of ukraine, and on this

basis we want to attract mariupol residents and lviv residents and people from frankovsk want children to go from kyiv and create families directly to the liberated ukrainian sea. yes, we want to ground and build our economy , but we want to preserve our history. i'm sitting here and thinking oh what a sea it's warm here and maybe there will be some kind of television, newspapers, magazines, internet i don't know radio, i'm already me, you've already convinced me, so what do you have do you have another specialist if you want me as a specialist but the question is different and what about you now, how do you perform the functions of the mayor, you are definitely no longer in mariupol because the russians are standing there and you can't do anything there, what is happening, what do you see now, i don't ask. where

are you, maybe it's a secret, but what now in mariupol does the rada give any kind of distraction mr. putin spoke today this is exactly what we are recording this matter when putin and biden speak about russia putin russia biden in poland and here he says we have started i mean not putin will develop something build something we want trust these words no, but what does it look like? you told us about point b. yes, we need to go from point a to point b in mariupol. now what point is there ? are they really building some houses? are they really building some lights? what kind of connection, water, heat, what?

what does mariupol look like now? what did you say? 541,000 people lived before the war. how many are there now? these are the general general features of mariupol today, the 20th of february , 23rd. he always lies, it must be emphasized every time because only this lie is always what he says, he says that you did not come to liberate the city, we understand what this lie did to our city, they destroyed it, 50% of the city no longer exists, this lie called putin it they also killed people in mariupol, locking them there, not letting them out of the city until march 13, raising planes , driving our warm sea of ​​azov into the sea of ​​azov, driving ships, killing people, destroying

our lives, and taking prisoners and as terrorists tearing people apart without electricity, without water, leaving them in the city, destroying this critical infrastructure, creating geta , creating instructions, people were leaving the city under fire because he gave serge an order on february 13 , march 13 to open the city, that is, he somehow forced himself to open this city on he has macro pressure on him, you sirdagan because , for example, turkish students stayed in mariupol and he begged that he opened , please open the city, we begged at different levels for putin to open the city and unfortunately only 13 in march, he opened the people left for mariupol today, about which today in the centers i in mariupol connected people, left for ukraine today 200,000 people who today

receive from the state in the centers i mariupol support and assistance in social issues , legal issues, psychological support receive a humanitarian component and others, i.e. here, the people of mariupol work for the sake of the people of mariupol . these are ukrainians who came to ukraine and today remain ukrainians and are waiting for our return in ukrainian mariupol. today there are 120 people who were forced to stay in mariupol, someone says 150,000, it was difficult to count, we understand more or less that the number is the same, 120-150 thousand are in mariupol today, they are increasing the number. are these elite people who stayed in mariupol, but there are others who initially went to ukraine and then for some reason returned why because you don't always take russia she lures people into this captivity and then cuts off these bridges by burning

them, for example, like the road between zaporozhye, where i am now, and mariupol, that is vasylivka, they shot this vasylivka, they closed these borders, and more mariupol residents do not have a plot to leave mariupol and return to mariupol, that is, there is no such possibility and he lured the whole bastard, or did he lure him, he said that he would build mariupol, that they would build an apartment there, that they would provide opportunities apartments that he will build to house the residents of mariupol, but something is not happening. they built it, we see it, they are doing pr on it. for whom are they doing it? they believe the lies spread by mr. putin and they say that he came to free and build, he entered denmark, welcomed this modern european city, the largest investment , the highest credit rating, that is, a modern bus and modern roads, modern, modern

schools, he collapsed, that’s what he will be now and the main thing is where he builds, he builds he builds buildings without foundations on the outskirts of our city, why on the outskirts, why not inside the place, why uh, where today there is uh , the opportunity to create conditions, because in order to connect to electricity, it is necessary that it it was connected to the water nearby, it is necessary for the water to be nearby or warm, and that is not there where he is still building today, what is he building for, that is , he is building for the picture, and the second component is the certification buildings that are being built on the outskirts of the city because he understands that we we are going to attack. that is, we are going to go, we are also going to release , and that is why they will take the phone and film what we have built. they are destroying. you see what ukrainians are like, how they are liberating cities. that is, it is

exclusively for this purpose. there are buildings, but people. there are no buildings. and they didn’t determine that either. and how can he give credit to people whose lives he took, give them this housing on credit , how can it be, that is, these people did not come, not for this, they are here to make their offer , and now what are they doing they are cleaning up their war crimes that they created in mariupol, that is, they have identified 934 multi-story buildings that they need to clean up, they have already cleaned up more than 400 of them, that is, they have cleaned up war crimes, they are cleaning up day and night, they began to clean up in a humane way at first they tried to pull people out of there, and we heard that they themselves testified about their war crimes that they got 100-150 people from these shelters that were under buildings

. and they are taken to the dump, here you are today we have no electricity, no quality water, no heat in the city, they bring food from russia that is three times four to five times more expensive than in ukraine , there is no modern hospital, there is no medicine, that is, it is also 4-5 times more expensive than in ukraine that is there is abuse by these people who left mariupol. my grandmother, whom they always keep such a watchful eye on , is still there. and i want to say that there were those people who came to visit my grandmother, and they visited one guy. is in the makivo prison , unfortunately, it happens like this today russia yes , such liberators came and this is how they

behave today, our modern ukrainians are those people who went to europe who today are arriving why did they end up there because there was also no possibility to go to ukraine because they closed those borders and people left for europe through russia because they don't want to be in russia and someone reached ukraine while leaving ukraine someone already from of europe is returning to ukraine, and thus we see that somewhere around 120,000 people are in europe, 150-200 are in ukraine. we are tracking them through billing, they moved to europe, then to ukraine, and somewhere 120-150 are in safety mr. vadim mr. vadim watch this it is not a big secret that there was such a powerful enough controversy in mariupol that there were pro-ukrainian people who were neutral. if you call them that, they were pro-russian. there was sympathy

for various parties there, such as those who interfere with the pro-russian parties. now the war has started. the war has been going on for a year . what is the mood? i just have students and i used to teach from there in kyiv. i once had students from mariupol and they just went around and told me that at least a third of the people have at least sympathy or a neutral attitude towards russia now how many people continue to think that putin is leading the army or russia , brotherly people, how much has something changed during this first year of the war. how do you feel, do you understand that sociology is difficult to publish somehow now, but do you have some feeling about this, please , mr. volodim, too? we did this is the logic in september in december thanks to our partners

jased you set who give us such an opportunity to do, we more or less understand today the attitude of those people who are in mariupol and in europe and in ukraine, it is necessary to understand that russia has been preparing for this war for all 30 years of our independence with you. they were first preparing for the invasion in the 14th year and were preparing for such a large-scale invasion exactly a year ago. this building is destroying our head, that is, they brought their propaganda to mariupol, and you have to understand that they also destroyed critical infrastructure and destroyed the connection with

ukraine, and there you saw that they they brought the beads, put up big screens and spread this delusion that the plane was coming and destroying our city of mariupol, that is, it was destroying our buildings, the hospital, the drama theater where my mother was. that is, it was destroying it is ukrainian, they say so. at first they said that you are british, that is, nato came and destroyed it to did you understand how much cynicism is like that? here it goes off the scale, that is, understanding it, they use the syndrome of the syndrome of this destroyed environment of the average among the internal environment of a person and then they give you didn't have water, didn't you have bread a here's water for you. here's bread for you. now let's build everything and go home. that is, the azov people are all there, and the ukrainian armed forces shot the plane. it was british and ukrainian , that is , unfortunately.

today there are people who also act against the forces, our network is against mariupol, where there are 17.5 thousand people and there are people who are directly in mariupol, they give us information from there and we understand what is happening, we understand where the enemy stands technology and a lot of things, we understand that if there is this sign of people who are a little lost, but we have to work with it. and we understand that not everyone was able to leave, but today we clearly understand that those people who are in the territory of ukraine today are people who keep their hearts not only mariupol, they hold the heart of ukraine, and we see how the anger in this heart is growing, that they want to return to mariupol and beat the teeth of those people who occupied our city today, and there are

people in europe who want to join this movement and we also need to work with them. that is why we created the opportunity called i mariupol, such environments 21 on the map of our country, and we just now started discussing the future of mariupol, this was last week, we made the first approach in kyiv and now everyone in lviv in the dnipro and in zaporizhzhia we will do the same in frankivsk and uzhhorod, discuss the future, how we return from today, how we coexist with these people who are there now and who receive this portion of propaganda and they accept it and some do not accepts, they are filled and someone is not filled, we have to work with it, it is difficult, but we have to do it and we

are doing it right now. never lied, and this is our specialty and what distinguishes us from russia, this taste of propaganda. it is always so tasty, but the truth is so firm, and we , with our truth, will give the russians a hard time. mr. vadim, one more very important question about him not very often they mention the ecology of the sea of ​​azov, they say that there are big problems in the black sea, they say that even in the caspian sea, from where they bomb ukraine very often, it is from there that these missiles are launched, although where is ukraine, where is the caspian sea in the sea of ​​azov, they also say that there are environmental problems. how do you see these problems or in general, it is possible to restore the ecological balance so that the fish reappear there