[000:00:00;00] from prints yes. on this violation of our current situation, well, we can say that there are very, very few people left, and the question of children was also raised. indeed, those territories that are constantly under fire are mainly a mass of people with small children, after all. left this territory and moved to safer places, i talked about defense. and i also wanted to talk to both of you about how defense has changed in a year , because we remember that it all started with just civil defense, so they took up arms, er, what was called at the beginning defense later this took the form of the voluntary formation of territorial communities, which now, as you estimate, how much more zmitsky defense has increased with the material and technical support of territorial defense, essentially on the territory of your communities, which are essentially on the border with the enemy, mr. serhiy. well, let's talk about you. how have

you changed in this regard, we understood that there could be a war because on january 20 of the second year, a month before the war, we had already allocated funds for territorial defense at the session and it is clear that mostly 90% of those people who today in the zhytomyr territorial defense brigade are people who volunteered in the first days of the first days of the war, today, you can't compare what happened a year ago and today, these are already completely prepared, trained fighters who have gone through a lot of what through training through the actual year of e-e protection of the border with belarus, constant continuous training , provision of material resources with equipment today, including some of them, it will not be possible

to say which units are located in the east of our country today. therefore, it is even it is impossible to compare it. and i want to add that we were planning to ask a question about the budget from business. in fact, the budget is not the city of zhytomyr. last year , it received approximately 80% of the funds that we planned to receive. it was partly under occupation, it did not get into the list of areas in which business was evacuated, that is why we have almost none, only four enterprises in total moved to zhytomyr for large enterprises from kharkiv oblast, from other regions of ukraine, but in us the personal tax from the military is quite large, because zhytomyr has always been the center of military units, we have many new units formed , so on march 4, we will even celebrate the first year of the personal assignment brigade of the first

brigade named after bohun was actually registered in the city council in the first days of the war . when the number of people who wanted to go and return our country was such that the brigade could not even accept them and this all fills the budget, i will say that over the past year more than 200 million hryvnias from the city budget were spent by direct subventions by other programs only to support military units, this is a huge amount of money for our budget, but we understand that it is much cheaper to give help to our military to strengthen our defense than to restore a destroyed school, it is much, much cheaper and that exactly the acceleration of our victory, in addition to this, there is also 300 million - these are military applications. these are the funds that we will need after our victory for the restoration of zhytomyr

. we also direct, first of all, to military bonds in order to support our armed forces and lay down a reserve for the restoration of zhytomyr, that's why we have only the last one, i said the figures for the 22nd year. our session was held a week ago. at that session , direct subsidies to military units amounted to uah 120 million. well, we are established, what are you? do you date? and is there a civil defense, that is what is called voluntary community formation, yes, voluntary formal communities are where wholesale in zhytomyr, we have more than 600 people in the sfs, they perform the same tasks, they partially financed by what it concerns military uniforms, but for today we are just buying additional bulletproof vests and others, and

these programs are financed by the city council partially or completely, they do not receive a salary, this is a voluntary formation, a salary, they will not receive a-a material security there are cars and a lot of other things - we are already helping mr. yury what is your situation, i am talking a little with your guys from the dfg now about material and technical support and how they are in a year, this is the same structure the structure has changed for us, this structure began on the 25th or 26th of february . last year, on the 21st , we had a city council.

they had weapons. there was nothing at all, no equipment and uniforms. they created a municipal guard. patrolled the entire territory of the city day and night, only on the first day we had one attempted looting that was already here . everyone kept this situation, it's just that we have such a unique , it's just that our guys were added to do further in the bulk of them.

all the more well, we have a big priority and advantage over others because the local guys know everything, every centimeter of their territory, well, they absolutely know our settlements in terms of material and technical matters. indeed, there were questions because no, well, as i said, there were very huge problems with the budget but we still managed to pay the boys some financial aid and now we are paying them, we managed to attract our own funds, we are allocating this for the purchase of winter clothes, now spring clothes for others, well, we are solving these issues plus very volunteers support us, we buy such equipment, there are specific nets, our girls make camouflage, well, we help everyone, can we? of course, there is a problem, and the problem is not solved at the level of the law , at the state level, the question is still

funding of wages well, no labor well, even though it is voluntary, we understand. but nevertheless, to somehow stimulate, it is interesting how you see how it was correct to settle the payment at this moment, now it is the local budget that allocates some opportunities there, but also local the budgets of the border communities, they do not have the opportunity for development. should these be subsidies or should you finance them from the central budget? and should these paramilitary units remain at the level of territorial communities, because there was an initiative to reformat them, how should we move in which direction i understand, uh, yuri zarko fell off a little bit in our picture, sergey, how do you see it? i see it , well, first of all, there are more of these people, they are motivated people who, in the first days, uh, came, took weapons in

their hands, and you can't lose them. first moment many of them who work receive a salary, most of them, uh, work at a permanent job. and there are a few days a week or weekends, or he takes it at his own expense. he performs the function of maintaining law and order in the city , but we understand that if the enemy is there i would go into the territory, here are all these er, the defg themselves, they could be effectively er, lead against er, there in the rear of the enemy, so there is no need to lose them, but i think that the issue of wages - this is also wrong, because they receive wages those who entered to the heads of the armed forces of ukraine to the territorial defense and it is absolutely clear here, people left

voluntarily and they fulfill only a part of the function, that is why no one is holding them here and at any time they can write a statement to leave the dftge and all we need is to create such the bones of motivated people who can, in the case of a certain situation, perform their functions , this is actually, and in the case of occupation, it can be a partisan struggle , there are many other things, that's why, you know, in the communities, too, and personally , i always have a dilemma. yes, you can buy there exactly modern equipment can be fully provided with transport for seven others, but in zhytomyr i won’t say the number of brigades, i’m only talking about brigades, i won’t even talk about the number of individual rifle battalions and many other units that are actually located

in zhytomyr and er, when the guys are under the bahmut, crime, estuary, or others and there are requests from them, first of all, you need to help them. so, when the er territorial defense battalion goes to the east, it is clear that we switch and try to provide them with transport and everything necessary as much as possible, this is understandable, but if this is the way to set priorities, then of course you need us first of all, we help those who started you on the front line today, mr. yuryu, there are even motivated people, there are families, and they are now performing work well, probably at the same level as the military, yes, on the border. and the peculiarity is that they really know every millimeter of their community, how to properly regulate it, in your opinion, this is an absolutely correct question

. because sometimes the guys are even closer to the border between should do it yes, but they do it and understand that even the fact that they do not receive appropriate funds for it, and i think the first thing that should be is social guarantees, maybe some kind of life insurance against accidents , it should be well, the fact that there are participants in hostilities is normal, because we, for example, well, as much as we can, we really help there, we provide coal and firewood there or by others, but this is not what the boys need. the boys need some kind of material support. and at least at the level of i think to myself, how much is the base 30,000 or so for the military , but the state should not guarantee it, because the communities really cannot do this, maybe there are some communities that will be able to allow it, but the bulk of the communities will not be able to, because you yourself understand that you have to comply. a lot of very specific others to pay therefore social guarantees

, the status of participants, of course, and uh, the minimum wage at the level of servicemen of the armed forces, but i still say this should be resolved at the state level. this issue i thank you both very much for participating in our broadcast, serhiy sukhomlin, the mayor of zhytomyr, yuriy zarko, the head of the bilopol community, about the situation on the border, these communities, in fact, live in the neighborhood and with the enemy on the border itself. well, it is important for us to keep them in focus, because life there is a little different . people actually live under shelling, business is reluctant to go there, as we understand. budgets depend on this. well , the voluntary formation on the territory of these communities, they perform the functions of essentially paramilitary special forces, and it is also necessary settle the issue of their maintenance and financing, well, yes, yesterday was the day of civil defense, i want to continue this topic with

ivan tymochka, this is the head of the reservist council of the land forces of the armed forces of ukraine , ivan, i wish you good health, i wish you good health, glory to ukraine, i am glad to see you, glory to the heroes, i am we have a program on local self-government, it gave us these formations that began to defend themselves at the level of houses, villages, settlements, and then it grew into terrodefense, they already became part of the structure of the armed forces of ukraine, and some formations remained at the level of tergromats. what? suddenly, what to protect and still our own community, how should it be properly organized? and where should we go in terms of militarization and civil defense? yesterday was the day of civil defense. how do you see it? is it normal that one part of ukrainians are fighting? relatives of those who are fighting, the other part can discuss ivo bobula on facebook, whether he is sexist or not and, in principle

, live a normal life there, or should we all be fully involved and be ready, well, to be completely eliminated, the question is very extensive. i will try to be brief, so that we can start. so, in terms of volunteer formations, they are actually subordinated to the territorial defense brigades, and this is a little . are in their structure in terms of the militarization of the population, there is actually me as the head of the council of reservists of the council , which is by and large a consultative advisory body at the branches of forces and types of troops and is directly represented in each

military unit that we have in ukraine, we can say that after the end of the war , we will definitely have a huge number of people who will actually be demobilized and will, uh, go to the status of reservists, and the reserve system itself, which worked until now despite everything that there were certain tests, there were certain experiments, tests in general . it was a permanent body , it became an active structure, and it gave us the opportunity at the beginning of the war. by and large, the second army, but they were worth almost nothing to the state, they were not worth anything, because they worked, as a rule , reservists at work, served with civilian life and only gathered in military units during training sessions, precisely in order to support their experience and skills , and of course they returned again.

in civilian life, it made it possible to maintain the skills of people who had combat experience at a level, and there are quite a few of them, in general, with them in numbers, but we can talk about this again about a constant number, it was at least 200,000 people are those who, relatively speaking, went through meetings through training meetings every year, and it is this reserve that made it possible at the beginning of the war to involve them with skills and experience, they came directly to their military units, to their units. they knew a large number of commanders. they knew the i did not know the equipment on which they should work, so they will have an understanding, that is , the loss of their coordination was minimal in time and literally in the first week , this also says the official figures on the big account of these first week two these two thousand came to what russia did not expect, and they managed to stop this aggressive attack of the russians

, because we remember that at the beginning, communication was interrupted between command structures, and we understood that the system was still hobbled . well, the war in the country began at a very severe level. this is probably the first time in the last 50 years when such and such military forces clashed in direct confrontation, but despite everything, the work that was carried out made it possible to organize people and involve them in the defense, what is it, and how did it happen, and why it was possible because, by and large, we , as a council of reservists

, were not just communicating with, say, the demobilized during training or during meetings. it was actually employers in our country who were reported directly to commanders or deputies of the verkhovna rada . about the military service in the reserve, which gave the opportunity to prepare a base for the fact that employers, for example, understood that they had so many people in the reserve and that people could be. a place to prepare a replacement in case of war. they knew how many reservists they had and how many they could submit, let's say later, for compensation or the state at the beginning of the administration, you tell how it should be, i agree here, but i want to argue about the plan

the fact that the war in our country started brutally, yes, it was harsh, but i do not agree with the fact that it was unexpected, because the war in our country started 9 years ago, and we understood that they grabbed part of the territory, but it is possible that they will go further, that was also understandable, but for at this time, did we have the coordinated work of the same military commissariats, the bases formed and all the information about the reservists about er, were trainings carried out, some weapons provided, let ’s agree that from the first days it was simple it was just people with bare hands going to tanks eh look, let's say something, we want to emphasize, in fact, the lists of operational reserves of the first, second, third tier, they were an operational person who was demobilized from the army , is he a conscript, is he a person with combat experience , they automatically entered the lists

of military units of the operational reserve and those the lists were always directly transferred to the social support staffing center , these are actually the commissariats that have undergone reorganization and information about how many people are in the reserve and who is in the main the mask was fixed instead of what parts it was known and it made it possible to organize and do it in the first days, it’s true, even if you ask any of the fighters who arrived in the first days in the part, they directly came with their units and weapons and even the transport was already there prepared and realistically, people literally in the first 1 or 2 days went to the east equipped with weapons, it was also a large number of volunteers who joined the reservists, this is also true of people who voluntarily came to

patriotism, but they were sent to those who did not have combat experience, they were sent to training centers, this is a completely different story , where they received a military specialty, they went to the military, or a person without a military specialty, at least even the very initial so-called hundredth and who did not take the oath , she could not go to the front this is the second important point . this topic should always be carefully divided, we are now talking about the line brigades, which in the first days were directly on the fronts and into which the reservists came , our guys came of course there are mistakes, i actually wanted to continue this in the conversation yes, of course, we saw the difficulties, the difficulties, we know, for example, nothing it is not a secret that at what legislative level we received huge opposition at the time and when the law

on military service in the reserve was voted on, we know how much negativity was thrown in. well, we already know that this is russia, the work is about what now as soon as the law is passed, all male reservists must be called up, they say. and those who did not fight for them are not brought, and where is justice, and even somewhere they accused the government of wanting to create a military dictatorship, because they refused to call up military reservists, that is, there were many, many and we know which factions did not vote in principle and which were pro-russian at that time, things were happening, but the bulk of the work and experience we managed to implement and implement, and this showed that it was planned to be captured by the enemy in 3-5 days in two months, well now. at this stage, the enemy is already russia declaring that they need to defend themselves because otherwise they will be destroyed from the face of the earth, that is , the military paradigm has completely changed from that time until now, but

this system is one of those mistakes because the war is going on. it can go into another phase . how can i organize this work correctly, because i communicated, for example, with the anti-terrorist forces in sumy , my relatives, and there were cases when boys and girls came to the military commissariats in the recruitment center when they simply wrote a what to do, where to go, they were closed, they sat down, they took it themselves and wrote lists from scratch, and this work was not fixed after all. and days yes exactly and hours and how to draw these conclusions now and now they are saying that we want to improve the work of the military committees i how it should be despite everything i do not agree with you if there were isolated cases it is rather er

directly a question and it should get busy the military prosecutor’s office directly with the leaders in the field of the military commissariats well, we understand the human factor in the recruitment centers, they have already been reformatted , their task now and will be after the war is not just to be like the military commissariats to deal with conscription, but their task will be as a center of recruitment and social support. that is they will also have a task at the social level to constantly maintain communication with those people to demobilize , we are already studying our capabilities on the future is waiting for that, what is the actual training of the future training of our reservists. we are also considering the issue now and discussing the issue, for example, of the budgetary burden in the future, we understand that those people who will be demobilized, and this is a million people who will constantly be in the reserve to support them in the future , we will also have to provide training centers with combat experience, we will need to maintain their skills, which means that these millions of people

will undergo training and the load on for the duration of the training, the same financial, or for a reservist who is undergoing training, the average earnings per enterprise plus the salary of a military serviceman during the training are kept, that is , we are already talking about it somewhere and we understand and even the volumes of weapons that are needed will constantly use them. now we are already looking into the future. and what kind of reserve do we have now in terms of quantity and who are these people, these people who are simply on the lists, now there is a call for the so-called human reserve of the general reserve, they are being added an alert occurs. they arrive at the assembly center and after that go through the coordination of training and either go to the front or stay in the respective military

units. well, it is up to the decision of their commanders. they know better than the military units . to involve in logistics, this is already such a military routine work, we are now calculating that all military personnel who will be mobilized in the future will be reservists. of course, now the figure we know a clear figure, we roughly know it, let's say up to tens of thousands . but now, in the given conditions, you understand that in certain regimes, i wouldn't say that the numbers are secret, but secrecy , but we already understand that it will be several hundreds of thousands of people. we know and we understand it, and in fact we are already preparing the base for this in advance. we are already conducting communications even with the military and civil administrations for the future because , for example, the issue of the reserve of

the territorial defense brigade is what you are all the time do you want to emphasize that it already happened, let's say so literally, before the war because the amendments to the national resistance, the amendments to the legislation that were introduced in accordance with this law, it was already adopted , well, in a short period of time during the war. you will allow me to just finish, because even the question of territorial defense, i remember that the question of the reserve and the provision of troops, the provision of line brigades by reservists, also began somewhere, there were accents in such a populist the party is actually about sending all experienced reservists to territorial defense brigades and, they say, providing military units only with people who are already being demobilized, not reservists , they say. there are many experienced soldiers who are training them. that is why these mistakes, these issues

, these discussions are taken into account, they have been discussed, i am voicing them to you and i say that so that somewhere it is the same and people understand that we are in the topic, we understand what challenges await us and the work is already being done so that later after demobilization this mass we did not lose people, and many of them will return to civilian life, go to work , go to work, and over time, so that we do not lose them, we will be forced to constantly maintain contact with them through military centers , recruitment centers, once again, military units through uh, military administration through the administration or through territorial communities through public organizations of the military. that is, we also understand this through television and radio, er, communication with people, and this is very much . is being done or when we want, we can say. maybe you didn't ask something. i wonder what the main problems and needs are now in terms

of forming a military reserve. now the main problem is to win the war and save these people . this is the main basic, in any case , when we will already know about the numbers during the demobilization, because the army will be 200 or 250,000. we do not know in what number and in what number the army will remain as regular, we do not yet know exactly how many people will be demobilized or how many people will be transferred, let's say to training centers like him structures, that is, we can now talk simply about the total figure that can hypothetically be released, and actually under this hepatic figure we can, we are now even talking about how much military clothing will be needed later or how the military units should work later on purchasing products for the duration of training gatherings , because it is necessary to feed and equip people