[000:00:00;00] and those from ukraine return to the russian federation, but in the meantime, they will be even more frightened, they understand that everything is already clearly recorded. the war in russia itself is very important, but it will not increase loyalty to the war. russians understand , look, at least they understand the main thing did not attack russia and if russia did not continue ukraine after the 14th year and if russia did not enter ukraine in the 14th year and if russia did not enter ukraine on a full scale in 2022, then they would not have problems. they already know this subconsciously understand and will understand deliberately, the more such provocations there are, the more putin talks about the fact that there are terrorist attacks, that is, more

terrorist attacks, as uh. objects are falling all over russia . the more they will understand that the war is not an irreversible problem of the growing problems of russia, and that was mr. podalyak. wants to fight there for the government, do you see how it can or cannot develop into an armed conflict inside russia, is it realistic it is absolutely realistic here you are absolutely right it is realistic because look again i will say the key element on what russian statehood is based on it is based on on force on internal force yes we we are not talking about expansionism from the point of view of how it relates to the neighbors, but internally, the russians exchanged their freedoms, the possibility of discussion was exchanged for a guarantee of security as such and a guarantee

of the greatness of russia, that is, everyone is afraid of russia and yes further but today it is already clear and and and and it was built a force vertical that guaranteed control over internal security everywhere, well that is, on lawlessness rather and so on, but meanwhile today they understand that there are no security forces, they are completely unprofessional and in russia they also understand this and in russia it is starting this period of chaos yes, when the security forces still seem to be there, but they also understand that very soon the king will collapse as such , well, that is, this political elite will not exist in this form in this form, and moreover, today in all foreign markets they say it is enough to take it cautiously. if that is the case, they are talking about putin and his entourage, that they will definitely push it forward, and this does not add points. rapists of prisoners who took part directly in the war of people who kill this

heroization of the criminal world is on such a large scale and then they will dominate and they will use on at the local levels, they will want to do about the distribution of wealth at the local levels, this is an objective process that is already starting in russia, because there is distrust of the tsar and distrust of his power , including . something to take away, especially in ethnic republics, they understand ethnic territories, they understand that such a time may not happen again, because today they are aware that it is possible to rebuild the constitution of the confederation. and in free sailing, this is a very important historical moment and it seems to me that such an excysy as the bryansk region. now let's get back to it. there is no difference. this is the production of russia itself . are these even the first manifestations of some partisan movements, including movements

that are made up of those who fled to us, received certain weapons here at the beginning of the war, and so on but it doesn't make any difference, there will be many such movements and that's why armed conflicts will also take place on the rise, and it's shorter enough , the interval is not far away. i want to clarify with you at the very end, you clearly stated that ukraine does not carry out any subversive squads on the territory of the russian federation. it does not officially say this, but you can explain why ukraine denies that it is somehow going to the territory of the russian federation. i will explain why i ask this question. actually, ukraine is obviously at war with russia, obviously for many analysts say that it is legitimate, and military facilities, for example, are used to make an impression on the territory of the russian federation because the russian federation is waging a war with ukraine . could

end if ah hmm the allies would simply go to the borders of those countries that were ah captured by adolf hitler, that is, here you can explain why the logic is why it is considered illegitimate if ukraine is defending its sovereignty and will attack the territory of the russian federation , two components are very simple and you yourself understand this very well, the first world has not yet gotten rid of fear, or rather , the world, the democratic world, is the part of this world that has not completely gotten rid of the fear of russia , including the nuclear weapons you are talking about talked about this is the first component of the second component in the world there is still enough e-e actively working in a pro-russian lobby network, pro-russian lobby networks, including informational ones, including international platforms e-e who use one or another tool to say that russia had the right to do something there and that it's not a war, it's really there. it's just russia's attempts to get some security guarantees, but because of

the war about, well, because of ieds against ukraine, and it really continues to work partially, we are also working with it to explain that it's all not and finally, the third component is very important international law, it clearly states that we legally have the absolute right to do whatever we want by destroying the enemy on our territory, including the occupied territories completely, i.e. we can wage a defensive war and, for example, an offensive war on the territory of another state for this, it is necessary to obtain certain mandates from certain parties. it is clear that this is a matter of international law. thank you for explaining to us that the adviser to the head of the president's office, mykhailo podlyak , spoke about how the incident in bryansk is being reacted to in russia. what can we expect, what processes inside russia, we invited journalist yulia krasnikova of attentive stories good evening ot tell me how russia generally perceived what

happened in the morning in the bryansk region, this is a ground operation they are conducting, i also saw that in medea they reported shelling of the kursk region, is it increasing the degree of anxiety within the russian society, if it is honest, it is appreciated, because if the degree of anxiety is assessed because they are talking about the weather, then the degree of anxiety is also the degree of scorn and anger that they began to pour on their broadcasts, telegram channels, and so on, he really began to escalate because if the feeling is that after the situation with which i will watch the free group, how is it supposed to be now ? for them, this became a reason once again to impose a suspension about the fact that the war has come to the territory of russia, although it would seem

that the war has already been unleashed in russia, and it is necessary to somehow actively respond to the actions of the ukrainian side. for them a reason to somehow lepetize, er, we suppose to wait all day for the winter , as if putin might announce another so- called wave of mobilization. she canceled it, it’s still going on, it’s just that this kind of oil set is once again , and that maybe this is such a preparation, because actually this mobilization will be announced , or some more, uh, another aggressive action of russia, uh, directed towards ukrainy justifies that supposedly this is the answer, as usual plants are attacked, she answers that there will be, what kind of reaction we saw we saw that putin first canceled his trip eh

and the old polish region and stayed i accept it in moscow about took part in this event online also a message about what is supposed to be an urgent emergency meeting with security measures then there was a message that they postponed it to tomorrow then it seems that they canceled it with everything, can you clarify what they talked about, yes, that's what they expected, specifically from this sovbeza a-a well, in general, i should have told you that it was such a sobolochnoe a -a because the very messages about the so-called virgin group a-a they came very suddenly, secondly, they spoke more very scattered at first but there is almost a shortage of people, according to some reports , and it came to the bryansk region, then they said that the information was different, including from well , let’s call it official sources , because the pro-kremlin media, for example, reported

the holding of hostages, but the meat authorities did not suffered in general in general. there was confusion and when everyone was trying to figure out this mess, a new mess appeared. goodbye, and here is one, for example. on what colleagues and the creators of the turntable wrote with reference to their sources that in the first place, what kind of emergency was called a secondly, when peskov later came out with his prerogatives what is there no such thing as such a meeting that here yes it means a terrorist act of something no this is what they call it yes ot menyaetsya agenda agenda and eh without a meeting it will be possible here it means not exactly no today, maybe tomorrow, at the same time, they again aggressively stated that in fact, not in fact, the council of secrets , that is, i wanted right now, and they know that they are discussing it, that is, they are following you , and for this information, i also wanted to ask

what is known in in russia, what do the experts say about this russian volunteer corps? well, we just talked with the adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine about this , if the problem is that these people are possible. they shoot a video on the territory of the bryansk region, while in the equipment of the armed forces, they are nominally , at least, at least. this is how mikhail podolyak clarified at the beginning of the fullness of the pants. from the zsu well, that's how it is, how it is perceived and what is known about this, uh, russian high -altitude corps, uh, in general, in russia, uh, well, how would that be? on the eighth excursion, they were not 40 presented , the message just appeared periodically, что here he appeared, for example, no one understood what this is here, uh, my colleague or

a distant woman, she did an interview with two soldiers of this corps, where she just uh-uh asked them, then find out how they are in this episode in ukraine, what happened of a dollar-scale invasion, why did they settle in the krdk, and in fact, what are they not connected there with the reasonable forces of ukraine ? what do they have отношения сейчас well, here it is probably necessary to react to the words of the ceiling, but after today's situation, when , er, i don't really like the word reading, they took it upon themselves somewhere because the ordinary sky was used in conjunction with some tourist

group after cancer already who said that yes, they went to the territory of the brygan region, they took a photo, but we talked to one of the participants. he said that there were no hostages, and how would they go with you ? many of them started to publish just the same, well, such profiles what is this association and they were mainly designed on the fact that these times the founders are now able to do everything i think i will improve as far as i remember yes yes yes he is a nazi to me and in everything almost in all in the headlines now that this is not nazi means that it is related to me, it seems to me that this is not a very good trend, but because this is how you know it, plus russian propaganda that can simply take, including

publications in independent media, such as we are we talked, we talked about unification, you're not cool. well, thank you very much . thank you very much! this means that one of the most difficult wins in the history of independent ukraine is already over, as the minister of energy of ukraine herman galushchenko said, ukraine has won the battle with russia in the field of energy at the front, maintaining the power system throughout the winter. and this winter passed in the conditions of mass-massive russian attacks on the objects of the ukrainian energy infrastructure, and now , according to the minister, ukraine has a deficit and a surplus of electricity, because it was possible to repair energy objects that were previously hit by russian missiles and drones since october, many ukrainians have periodically had no electricity, and candles

and generators have become a part of everyday life. during this time, ukraine also strengthened air defense to protect critical infrastructure, in fact end of winter paid attention to his address and on the first day of spring and the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky this winter passed. it was very difficult and every ukrainian felt this difficulty without exaggeration, but still we were able to provide ukraine with energy and heat, so the threat to the energy system remains, but the work for the sake of the energy system, the grass and how is it further next , let's talk about how the winter passed in the conditions of russian attacks on energy infrastructure facilities and we will already add to our air this is the head of the center of military-legal studies by oleksandr musienko good evening good evening let's talk about how

ukraine passed this winter, this is a question for you as a military expert, in particular because it was part of russia's military strategy, father, it succeeded in achieving these goals, not necessarily, it did not achieve it , russia did not achieve it, the case in the fact that russia began its missile terror against infrastructure objects on such a massive scale, because it happened before this, but it started on a massive scale on october 10 and on february 10, strikes are still being carried out on energy infrastructure objects top five months, we can establish in five months, this is already an indicator that they did not succeed, because according to the plan, they were supposed to cope , in principle, by november , december, there were already critical energy problems, they did not manage to do it, and they used a huge amount of rockets , accordingly, spent a lot of money on it, but it did not work. that is, it did not have the effect of demoralizing the military or their relatives, which affected the situation on the battlefield

, it did not have any facilities, and the second actually in other words, it did not lead to narrow, crazy black-counts, so-called zombie apocalypses, problems that could be er in energy, that is, it did not work , and again, we see that the first thing was russia's great self-confidence, underestimation of us as a rival in that ukrainian air defense will work and the underestimation of our western partners who helped ukraine in recovery and are now helping energy infrastructures. that is why it did not work. you mentioned the capabilities of ukrainian air defense, they shot down about 80% of russian missiles have even more drones. well, this indicates that the ukrainian air defense system is reliable enough . well, it can be

better. shot down, there are separate complexes that work almost one hundred percent according to the certification of the air force command, for example, such quality or nasambs systems are just delivered to us by our partners if, in principle, we will follow the path of further implementation of this agreed on rammstein back in october, just after the massive shelling on october 10, when it was promised practically at this conference that ukraine would help create a targeted and multi-echelon air defense system . let's go now, as soon as even more complexes and systems will arrive, i am sure that there are coefficients of missed targets and it will increase. well, along with this, we must

understand that now our capabilities air defense is increasing, on the other hand, russian capabilities in our particle and mass missile strike capabilities are significantly decreasing . last question what will happen next winter ? do you think russia will return to the tactics of shelling energy infrastructure and will ukraine be even more ready ? the same p3 systems will work , only operators who continue to study in ukrainian and is it possible that they will already be like in the 16th, which, again , are often mentioned by the president of ukraine as part of the ppu, i am cautiously optimistic that there will be at least 1-2 additional batteries of petrivets and we will also receive aviation, planes, this is very important for us, as for what the enemy will fire at, well, there will be efforts, but a lot will depend on whether russia will be able to to increase the production of missiles now

there is no tendency for them to produce more than 45-10 per month and if they do not receive any help from the wound or north korea or china or other countries, then in principle they will carry out massive large missile attacks next winter, i think that they will not have many capabilities. they will be able to shell something, but it will not be large, such crazy shelling with a high frequency. and how it will be prepared for the next one. how did this winter pass in the conditions of massive russian attacks on the objects of the ukrainian energy infrastructure, in periodic blackouts and in the face of the threat of a blackout

? comments from kyiv residents at first they didn't bring it home, it's a heater and it's still there, we've never turned it on , well, calm down, no excesses of the generator, no, uh, how about a led lamp and a power bank. we got used to it all, we bought an eco-flow, so it's fine with power banks they held on as best they could, but everything was fine, thank you, they didn’t buy at all, they dressed warmly, they covered themselves warmly, and they kept on, i had a generator, we had a small gas stove, we bought a small one here , where i was sheltered, the apartment was warm and i, we didn’t buy anything extra in those days

that there was no heat in the apartment, the heaters warmed up so they were heated power banks, lights, light bulbs, a gas stove, a cylinder, the whole set of power banks, power banks, and the winter turned out to be harder than expected, no, no, on the contrary, everything is good , much worse, well, it could have been better, it was expected to be much heavier, but it came easily, thank god , it was easy i think it will be much more difficult, well, for me it went well i thought it would be worse i will tell you honestly vera there is spring coming everything will be fine thanks to probably the coordination of all our utility workers everything was much better in of the entire population of our country in the center of my

country. there were no such problems, but as i heard among acquaintances, what kind of problems do they live in the regions there, what kind of problems with the world were there? in the capital of estonia, tallinn , some representatives of the russian minority brought flowers to the destroyed russian tank , which was displayed there the day before, according to the plan of the ministry of defense of estonia, the burned t-72 tank should be displayed in seven estonian cities as a visual reminder of russian aggression against ukraine, but they perceive such an installation in the baltics differently, for example, the mayor's office of narva, the third largest city in estonia, which has the largest russian community and is located next to russia, refused to accept the tank at all. this caused the indignation of a certain part of estonian society, because the baltic countries border russia, and in some places there are speculations that after ukraine, moscow can carry out aggression against the baltic states. although they are members of nato, even in estonia they are discussing

how loyal they are to the estonian state representatives of the russian ethnic minority, some estonian russians previously protested when the old soviet t-34 tank from the second world war was removed from the pedestal in tallinn, when estonia was incorporated into the ussr , yevhen kryshtofurovych e-e kryshtofovych, director of the center for european initiatives from estonia, joins our team good evening good evening evening, why do you think it is important for estonians to see this russian tank that was destroyed by the armed forces of ukraine? how is it that there was the largest crowd of people in this same place that we have ever seen in this square? it was a rather spontaneously organized in 2022 rally in support of ukraine, support of ukraine as

a sign of solidarity with the people of ukraine when, of course, we didn't just keep our fingers crossed and pray that the russians wouldn't enter kyiv, and even today we see a burned-out russian tank on freedom square, and you know that, well, on the one hand, that's how he would talk about it that everything went the way we did in general, we hoped from the other side. this certainly gives hope for the future, because we very well understood that and we understand that this dictator will not only pay off ukraine , but also restore the borders until 1991. so we very well understand who could be the next one and the fact that today the armed forces of ukraine stopped the so-called second army of the world, and this inspires optimism. well, at least i saw this tank in exactly the same way. i also went

to see it with interest, and how to explain that certain people in estonia brought flowers to this tank. she did everything in that a-a how would we call the russian sympathizers a-a there are quite a lot of them in estonia a-a these were usually people who were close to whom there was always someone any emperor who filmed a special video for russian propaganda channels, well, it seems to me that the estonian security police is our counterpart in the sbu, yes , and in my opinion , they somehow did their job. they knew that now all these comrades how very well they calculated very well they themselves came and registered let's say yes but in fact then this was a picture so that you can see, that is, people are actually against this whole thing, they do not let the war into their heart

they support russia they bring there ah carnations with skerrd ribbons there are no nails with georgian ribbons there were few let's say yes and eh because well and it was we were all very interesting to count how many of them there will be eh not the same not so to much and what i liked the most, a russian-speaking youth came out there and just started collecting these carnations and throwing them into the nearest bin , but it was spontaneous. i can say for sure that it was spontaneous, because i know who it was and who it was. i am familiar with them, but they are definitely not organized, but still, how many percent of the population of estonia are citizens of estonia, or those who live there and do not have citizenship ? a part of society that, well, it is not possible with these flowers, but somehow in their minds somewhere thinks that this tank should not be standing there, or

there are many of those people . does it with a breakdown into the correspondent's native language, that is, what do they think will remain what do russians think conditional or russian-speaking let's say this, if among estonians, on the order of 85 to 93% , ukraine is ready to accept more of refugees from ukraine during this entire period, yes, these figures are from 80 to 93%, approximately, somewhere, somewhere, somewhere, they are there, it varies, eh, this survey is done approximately once a quarter i remember correctly, the last one was published at the end of december. accordingly, the survey was published at the end of november and at the beginning of december. the percentages were still there. as for the russian-speaking population, 50 for

50, 50% for accepting all ukrainian refugees and ready to help them, and they believe that ukraine is definitely entitled to this one he is waging a war in eh, as if eh became a victim of aggression from the russian federation. well, 50% of them read that not everything is so clear-cut in rositelstve, or they consider eh and it is eh there too this percentage is certainly significantly less. simply, 50% win those who believe that not everything is so clear-cut and those who support russia want the percentage of those who will support there, of course , it means that it is less than somewhere in the region of 10-15% from the russian-speaking a- and the population in the center is a completely marginal percentage - it is at the level of one percent or even less than a if we talk specifically about narva, as i understand it, this is the attitude of ethnic russians or emigrants from russia more than in other a-a cities, right there. for example, the city hall refused to exhibit this tank at all, it already turns out that it is not such a margin, they

affect so the decision of at least the local authorities, yes you understand narva is a city in which 98% of the population is russian-speaking from narva, the distance to petersburg is less than the distance to tallinn er, yes, this city is different. let’s say that about a third of estonian citizens live there, about a third of russian citizens and another third capital without er, without citizenship a-a and er-e from down, the third largest but er-e the third largest in which about 60,000 people live there, that is, it is not such a big city , ah and ah, well, the entire region of the northeast takes into account that there is a compact russian-speaking population that lives there and watches russian television because it is not