[000:00:00;00] i know that by the end of this year they have already been registered and even the approval is the same structure . when these shock companies are created, this is why it was created in order for these shock companies to be unmanned in the staff, because now i am in the military. there should be a kalashnikov assault rifle for every person there, there are four stores there, there is a sapper shovel, something else. this is a staff requirement, that is, if it is available, it is okay. if it is not available, we will order it, and in principle, there was no such thing in the armed forces before that. somewhere there already in this platoon in these units must have in every agreement a quadrocopter of this level or some kind of multirotor or plane and a scout, and since it was not determined what it should be, of course no one bought it because, well, we do not have a facility, there is no staffing need or at all

there is no need, when i hear them, the guys who are collecting on have the same thing, you will say there is no need. how will we fight without eyes, and no matter where the military military terminology is, it means that in the state it is not determined who it is assigned to, what it is called, where it should be, where to stand on accounting, who buried it, what is the write-off procedure, what is the repair procedure, and so on, this is such a complex job . but the sooner we identify this need, the sooner it will be done, that is, now, unfortunately, you understand, well , the military, uh, the rank is higher there, i don’t know the captain, major, they are in they have not used drones in their life, they are especially impactful, they basically do not know how it should work, that is, they studied there or during the soviet union there or or at the beginning of the 90s there and they basically do not know how to use it, only now we will accumulate it experience, only now they are beginning to understand it, to determine that yes, we have such a need and it is moving further little

by little maksym but about such tactics of use , because now we see a lot of videos where it is actually reset, there are various explosive devices from the ages of copters, it is actually very insignificant section from the point of view of our needs well, a maximum of three of you are further 5 km, although it was cool there in general, if there were even a few grenades there , we can drag it there for 5 km eh and on the other hand, i know that actually you do not have the authority to manufacture combat units because this is actually a dispute with our other legislative acts, that is, in general, about combat units and about the depth of impression of er-e targets by our er-e drones or other systems, see let's start with the depth of impression for what we see when it is dropped from multi-rotor there are such solutions, there are quadcopters, octocopters, and so on. that is, it is, well, very easy in principle to make

a video, because you are dropping the hangover there , i looked at where it flies, dropped it once , dropped it a second time, the only problem with these is... with copters, in fact, the range is limited, there are no copters that fly far, that is, direct communication is 7-8 km, well, somewhere like that, well, yours is preferably up to 5 km. well, again, operators in this case are under threat of constant shelling, because they can start work mortars and so on because you see them here well, that's how they say we see videos when it succeeded but we never see videos when it didn't work , it's such an error in the perception of the survivor , you see oh, we throw it into the hatch, but that doesn't mean you're alone thousands of times left to throw in the hatch of the tank, yes, and before that, you lost dozens of copters there, that is, the question of efficiency is the same, but it is necessary, such things

are necessary. already aircraft-type range and several aircraft of ours, for example, i say one of them. although it is again not created for infantry warfare , it is created for special operations there , they are flooded to fly behind the second line there to do something, but now it is also used as scouts, as shocks to the previous border there and so on. well, there is a need, you need to hit something, there is nothing. let's give it to them, and it can really carry up to 3 kg there, 45 km away. 50 m it can be seen and heard. that is, it is quite easy to hit it with small arms there at will , but it still performs missions, it is cheaper than us . well, thank god that the more means of destruction the better, there is no question here. here is what

to drop, usually they directly violate regulations and carry out constructive changes in large-scale munitions well, the fact is that we all understand this, these recycled archetypes, recycled shots , and so on. well, that is, everything , everything that is dropped, mines are dropped, grenades are dropped . you can, that is, but if you have a minus. you have mortars, there are not enough mines, and sometimes we drop them there by flying on honey, so we got around it by the fact that the statute prohibits the engineer of the unit from creating an improvised explosive device and de facto de jure where -jure v we are not a shock drone, but a means of delivery of an improvised explosive device, well, a high-precision means of high-precision delivery. but nevertheless, we now have so much , uh, the development of standard ammunition for uavs is starting, that is, i know about it, because we are tangential

to this, because carriers other than ours almost none, that is, so that we can now help test it, develop it, i hope that in the near future it will be a little bit again , well, this will be the first year. yes, we will be fighting for a year. and we will have the first regular means. recognize that it is necessary. well, i see it that way. again, they often milk the ukroboronprom in some way. the ukroboron is a state concern that is guided by the wishes of the customer . until the customer says that he needs the ukroboron, he will not do anything. announced this drone for 1,000 km. i am looking forward to this particular model , because we need it very much, not only there, we need modified swifts, we need a modern complex that can carry out

an attack there, the depth of the enemy's territory and i hope that they will work more quickly, and i think that you also evaluate the works of our enemy, in particular, this lancet causes a lot of trouble to our military , your understanding. can we create such similar models or create systems that can fight with these lancets? and in general, your assessment of this of this component in the actions of the enemy well, i personally already have a personal attitude towards the lancet, because my closest friend is currently rehabilitating after being injured as a result of a lancet blow, well, let's say, let's say yes, on the one hand, we understand that under the conditions of your sanctions, i have to produce all this en masse , but on the other hand, they use it in the system . this is what i always try to convey, there is such a phrase. we have seen how the orlament is used

systematically . we saw this story when and what is the name of orlan hortada, when the orlans and arta were working, thanks, well, it would really be very difficult until all the orlans were beaten a little, there were striking things there, iranian, russian, and so on. and we will probably see other news of development the only thing i say again is that they are working with our system so far. we even know how we are at the stage of what we are. we are determining what we need in general. when we do it, we need to determine it. then we will organize it into the system, how it should work. this is where the scout flies, that is, here an observer flies there, strike drones work here, they can work, that is, this experience is accumulated little by little, they are us, in fact, our crews are accumulating

it, we already have enough crews who are already working in a group method, that is, when there are three crews from different places working on one point for 40 seconds there and there is also a fourth person flying around and conducting observations of what is there and recording the impressions . which is constantly correcting there, we know there, even there the hostage said that the counter-battery fight is now a fight with drones , how long do you clean your eyes ? now the counter battery fight is a fight against drones and artillery - it must be a full-fledged connection with air reconnaissance , that is, they must have their own there are simply

several correctors lying on the shelf that they use to achieve and if there is not eyes, there is no corrector in the air, then no one is working now and so 10 cm maksym and do you have an understanding of what will happen after the finisher, what will be the next shock drone from your company , i think you are still thinking about it, we are not just thinking yes, he will it will be quite soon. in fact, i just don’t want you to know that we are careful. yes, we went into the public space when we already had confirmed results , that is, unlike some teams, i don’t want to say that they are somehow bad, it’s just that someone there, uh, made tenants and they already went yes, and we already have a drone, we haven't flown it yet, we haven't seen it yet. we haven't collected any today, but it already exists , so we already announced it, that is, in our case, we will first make prototypes, test them there

, and modify them, because there will always be some modifications, some improvements, that is, something will slip out that does not work together and only after we can go into serial production. we are talking about more powerful drones, this means that we need more requirements for the elemental base and this means that we need to purchase them from our partners, are there any restrictions with this, if you can briefly explain whether it is possible or not definitely possible see well, actually , any the complex consists of different parts, yes, that is, if you take just the plane itself. the plane itself consists of electronic components, good. in ukraine, we manufacture the glider itself, yes, that is, we manufacture some components, but most of the components are purchased on the world market, that is, from us. that is, we can buy electronic components that are simply goods, civil

defects, there are autopilots, something else for civilians , for sports gliders, there is something else. we are already moving into military goods, and in order to purchase them, first of all, we need to want to sell them. that is, we faced the fact that when we want, we understand what we want, we go even through the embassy to the manufacturer, and we say look, we are like that, that’s what we need. and they just say at first yes, green, green light for you, it’s whatever, then they disappear and don’t sell any case, and we have to invent schemes when a company buys somewhere abroad and then it is transferred here , there are also components that we just well , they won't sell it without a state contract, there must be a muser from the state so that it will use it. and for this

, a state contract is needed directly. the e-e gate is included in the rr kit for military-style antennas, there is an american one, it costs $80,000 by itself. just for one plane, that is, when we now say that we have a complex with two planes, we do it there for $70,000. i.e. if we add another 80 + 80, then it will cost 160,000 dollars , if that is why we must always keep a balance between efficiency and expediency. because it is possible to pack so much into the plane that it will cost several million dollars, what kind of money do we have there is no one after that mr. maksym, thank you for your explanations, we will return to your products when there will be good examples on the battlefield, the next and new projects, and i will remind our viewers that maksym was the press secretary for us, the head of the vadys company, which developed the punisher shock drone, and

now oleksandr los former joins us the head of the state-owned enterprise antonov , doctor of technical sciences, currently the captain of the armed forces, who takes care of the promising directions of the development of the ukrainian army, mr. oleksandr . i congratulate you, mr. serhiy sam. congratulations, now we are with with the previous guest, maxim music talked about the fact that there is actually no system in the country when we talk about the creation of weapons samples, and in particular when we talk about drones , there are shock reconnaissance and so on. in your opinion, what prevents us from providing a systematic way to solve such current problems, and we need drones, we have some solution, then why and where do they appear, only at the expense of the initiative of individual people and at the expense of 10 individual private companies, well , first of all, it is about professionalism and

setting the task, any task should it is necessary to start with scientific support, it is necessary to form a concept, it is necessary to form technical tasks, because you are right, for today, in essence, it is about the fact that samples of foreign weapons, whether american or other countries, are imported from the american american alliance, and there can be no systematicity in this until the state is not engaged in science from the beginning of mathematical grounding for the needs for the war of a new format in which we are already participating and on which all our other partners and colleagues are learning, i.e. it is about the fact that it is necessary to start from the micro-class, even there to the nano-class, and ending with devices of that class, which i am actually the developer of medium and heavy unmanned strike systems already at the operational level. and to this is added, as we always say, the issue of organizing intelligence from tactical to strategic that is, it is a satellite reconnaissance, it is an accompanying e-e

aviation reconnaissance and so on. that is, it is a state-level task that must be solved at the system level, necessarily starting with scientific justification, and now we have such a paradoxical situation that ukroboronprom started to develop its strike drone there. previously, he was making a turtle there. relying on the potential of dp antonov, although dp antonov had previously designed such a thing. well, there was a strange relationship and there was your project asy one, which we talk about from time to time because i deliberately emphasize that this is the most promising project in the field of creating impact unmanned multi-functional drones. and during this time , it is interesting, in fact, what progress has been made with your project in terms of requests from our officials regarding what, oleksandr vasylyovych, let's take your project as a basis and bring it to a working version, these are directly about my project, these are such communication with my colleagues, and i can

even say like-minded people from the security committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. such communication was before the large-scale offensive, at that time it was clear that with the budgeting that was in place in ukraine, unfortunately, there was no money, support , of course, was an ideological idea for me, but there was a financial issue at the moment as well communication began because you know that now the verkhovna rada initiates the financing of ukrainian projects of unmanned vehicles, but again, devices of the same class as our equipment - it constantly emphasizes this , it is geopolitical projects, it is not to create any, even three chinese ones, although from the point of view of software composition to repeat, but heavy vehicles that can carry up to six units of air-to-air missiles

on external suspensions are only talking about the internal for stealth, this is a very difficult issue precisely from the political organization of this of the process, because i emphasize once again in ukraine there is no intelligence except for me and people like me and our our our minds everything else is missing composite materials are missing aluminum titanium alloys are missing most importantly microelectronics is missing which is in the schedule of the political which now we are available only from the united states of america but this needs to be negotiated and negotiated at the level of the president and the government of ukraine. this is between governmental relations. here , oleksandr vasyliovych's one wish, which he was not educated and intelligent, will not be enough because this is a matter of significant expert control, which you know since the fall of last year has become very much stricter precisely in the field of microelectronics because the chinese people's republic of china communist totalitarian

state comes out on thanks to its pirate approach to such complex industries is ahead of the united states of america the united states of america they are already sounding the alarm because not much will be needed for the chinese to be able to advance in the military application of microelectronics and artificial intelligence. but together now i will return about more prosaic things, this is the creation of more simple tactical-level drones, and well, let's say something like a barrector, you would-2 ukraine is already capable of this in principle, but even there there are questions about microelectronics, because to anton, you mentioned the turtle dove that we they started it, everything was happening before my eyes and i tried as much as possible to support this project when i already became the general designer of the dp anton and i did not kill this project, i just tried to create

a school to develop it antony, but i will remind you again what was horlytsia, you said it correctly. unfortunately, my colleagues thought that it was just an aircraft. we need to make a body. i always asked the question. and where is the whole load, which should be? and this is all microelectronics, opto-electronics, channels of encrypted long-range radio communication intelligence and so on for today there is not and was not and so far there is no, but this needs to be developed, oleksandr. thank you for the inclusion for your professional comments, and i will remind our viewers that the fireck stress channel was oleksandr los, doctor of technical sciences, captain of the armed forces, who has direct experience in the creation of civil engineering and multifunctional drones, in particular, the existence of which he considers to be a top technological solution that can be implemented for our armed forces, and now we have a new guest - a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, a spokesman for the international intelligence community inform napal

mykhailo makaruk, mr. mykhailo, can you hear us? i greet you. i greet you. i hear you well . i would like to ask you a question about that. we are now carrying out strikes to deepen the enemy's territory. using various models of our shock drones, we do not admit that it is our drones that do this work. in your opinion, is this the right approach or should we talk about what we able to deliver strikes deep into the territory of opponents, the enemy must know about it, what is your assessment of drones with strikes with escort, at the moment the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine has officially declared that we are waging a lickt-out war of ukraine and ukrainian territories, so i think that any comments from this plan will

be inappropriate regarding the situation that arose literally yesterday in bryansk, where the russians tried to form another information campaign around the fact that ukrainian dergs are operating, which capture the russian population, then kill children. it was not confirmed in any way what is now . such activity of the russians in this information segment has been stolen. it’s quite simple that they are acting on the basis of the tracing that they have historically promoted and done. i will remind you that the discrediting of the liberation movement for independence and the skin was created precisely well, in the eyes of the western allies, the terrorist attacks, which, in principle, were created by the so-called chechen terrorists, the fsb used it, and the disruptions will be in moscow as a bait, the bodoniv

volga-don region, however, in principle, our leaders and officers who are engaged in including and take into account all these general events and try to simply destroy them at the germinal station, the circus that we saw yesterday confirmed once again that the russians tried to conduct repeatedly discrediting the companies or the top military and political leadership of the armed forces of ukraine with the aim of turning us into some kind of terrorists, but we now see that this is not possible and they tried to introduce such concepts to us as early as the 17th year ah a dirty atomic bomb eh about some incomprehensible chemical releases about some terrorism, but everyone knows very well that in this world there are terrorist states like the russian

federation and its satellites, now if you consider the front line and the hottest point on the city of bakhmut, yesterday there was a statement by the deputy minister of defense, mrs. hanni malyar, that now we will experience excessive activation of the russian information company that accompanies the storming of bakhmut, and malyar said that this will be directed at the demoralization of ukrainian society and the military in your home there is more experience in understanding the information policy that we have now er proves to our society when we talk about hostilities in bahmut around bahmut and the possibility of a scenario of the development of events eh well see first of all i would like uh for our viewers and listeners to say one more thing before the war , our commander-in-chief gave a rather short but quite powerful speech. the speech was where it was said. believe in the armed forces

, believe it is deserved, believe that in the year of the war, they have not once given some opinion about themselves. in their actions or their policies and at the moment i say once again that remember these ukrainian wars , this is the war for the independence of ukraine, the task is not to hold back one or two places there, the task of this war is to exit at the border of 1991 in any way possible, therefore i ask the ukrainian society to listen less to all kinds of incomprehensible experts who talk about 2-3 weeks and to listen a little more often to the official statements of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. this is absolutely true and even reduced the statement that the hot

phase of the war there will end in the summer . at the same time, it means that we have to prepare society and prepare society for a long-term war with the enemy and not to have excessive expectations of how to act for that so that society is really ready for much greater trials than we have gone through so far . i think that in information work, every man, especially, should understand one simple truth. there in zakarpattia or lviv boiler should understand that the time will come when people like me, who have been fighting for a year, will have to change, the time will come when his victory must be not only

on the sofa but also on the front line, that is why i appeal to these people, do not waste your time, study, prepare, read, engage, because women are more skilled and have more knowledge of military , topographical, medical, you have more chances for a very beautiful war and to help fulfill the task, and do you have the borders of the 91st year, this is our general aspiration together with those now we hear about other options that are beginning to impose themselves on the information space about the possibility of some kind of compromise with the russian federation, etc., etc. , how should we achieve this result , even if there is a different reaction from other states

it will be absolutely well, it will not be the way we want, the victory depends solely on the ukrainians, sneeze what the other countries want absolutely, you know who they should be , what they want is not our business, the question is what we want , the main thing is the strategic tasks, this is the exit at the border of 1991 the complete impossibility of such aggressions in the future for our generations and the creation of the necessary base, so to speak, in order for the enclaves of the russian federation to be dangerous for us, including i consider this the current occupation of belarus on such enclaves as transnistria ceased to exist in its current state, i.e. to establish an order there that would not threaten the territorial integrity and security of our citizens, or are we talking about the fact that this is a plan , it should also include e-e approaches to the fact that

russia should cease to exist as a state in such a formation, it should break up into a much larger number of formations that will not actually pose a threat to us , by the way, all danilov or vypy say about this - do you support such a concept in the future, i will absolutely not care what happens in russia however, russia should not have nuclear weapons, weapons of mass effect. it has the expenses of all the necessary war criminals, correct the reparations, give back our cultural property, which was looted for a little less than 5 centuries, and then we can negotiate with them , but the fact that russians, citizens of russia should be unwelcome guests on the territory of ukraine, it should be fixed, including by us, whether such certain dimeterized zones should be formed deep in the territory of the russian federation, so that you

never threaten us with such things proposals, in particular, were expressed by representatives of the guru, in particular, the deputy head of the gur, general skibytskyi, of course, this is one of the tools and in the future of our security, mr. mykola. thank you for your comments and for your time, for your inclusion, and i will remind our viewers that the channel is on the air espresso was a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine , a spokesman for the international intelligence community, napalm, mykhailo, er, mm. the creation of new types of weapons and the reduction of combat operations on the battlefield remains extremely difficult and it requires joint attention from the state structure of institutions and from our experts and politicians, journalists who should pay more attention to all areas that can increase