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kept ukraine in its heart then and now kharkiv invincible , congratulations, friends, and good health, ladies and gentlemen, vitaly portnikov mykola veresen from you will be there for an hour and a half, well, at least they will try to say something reasonable, we don't know how it will turn out, but we hope . well, someone. i know one person who definitely always succeeds, and the other is some kind of intellectual who always has doubts, such opinions are not necessary. television is not a public library . tv presenters, i will tell you honestly, there are no doubts or reflexes. he is making this all up, but it does not matter because there are no such things that are. so

we will see different people on the air, mykola, and you no longer look like a young man. nothing i say because there is no reflection but i think that our participants actually have reflections because experts always have reflections there are fresh thoughts and we will now invite serhiy barabsky, a military expert, a participant in peacekeeping positions and a reserve colonel, to the conversation, he will talk to mykola and i hope i'm also working with me while i'm here i'll talk to sergiu good health eh thank you that not everyone will volunteer with us on friday evening, but it's nice when someone , mr. sergiu, the question is simple and complex and i hope we won't reveal any secrets but today many people talked about withdrawing from bakhmut and in general when the syrian comes for the second time in six days. so what does this mean? what does this mean? it means that we

are withdrawing as sometimes even western experts advise, or does ukraine continue to just stand there? indeed, i listened today different experts through the network, and there at least two of them directly said that we will be ukrainian, we received an order to leave, well, let's say it can't be ruled out, it can't be, but it's quite likely, especially well, if absolutely to objectively approach the situation that has developed, and with the enemy's exit to the area of ​​the village of chromov, let's be frank.

the grouping of troops of the enemy is also exerting pressure on our position on the left bank of the bakhmutka river, that is , in the area of ​​the so-called rural development of the bakhmutka, and we are in principle considering the following issues so that the report to withdraw a-a is carried out a certain movement of individual units, which can also indicate that we can rearrange the battle formations for conducting so-called career guard battles, but instead it must be said that the southern flank of the group is holding well, it should be noted that the bridge that directly connected bakhmut and kostiantynivka was blown up i.e. the supply through it is much much more complicated . so with yourself. is what you and i have here today is open information and can be seen on many maps, we can assume that it can be accepted the decision to leave with bakhmut well, in principle

, i can express my objective , or rather subjective opinion, i'm sorry for the opinion that bakhmut fulfilled his task, of course, eh, i don't want such a bakhmut to happen somewhere, eh, in slavyansk, somewhere in kramatorsk, because we know how the opponent of the action will strike and we will observe it objectively with you and they will pound in this direction , but this is a war, a war. it does not consist only of victorious marches, er, of parades. -e difficult maneuvers by the way, they are prescribed in the combat statutes of the armed forces, we can move away from bakhmut, and even on your map we can see that this will not change the situation much, and i have very, very big doubts that the enemy will be able to fulfill his political order, namely to enter the borders

of the luhansk donetsk region by 31 in march, it is technically impossible, by the way, this is exactly what worries me, so let's imagine that the ukrainian armed forces left bakhmut, what are they now , you know the possibilities in this situation in this new position of the russian armed forces they practically do not change, why well, if we take the bakhmut zone, then i can cite analogies that we had with you already at the end of june at the beginning of july, when the enemy desperately stormed from severodonetsk lysichanskyi, we also withdrew from there under much worse conditions and than we have today, let's be honest, because then there was writing in the izyum direction and we really had such a serious threat in the environment, now there is no such thing, and that is, the enemy

simply entering bakhmut will find himself in front of a situation when he will fight a-and both for the renewal of the line of defense of the ukrainian and armed forces, therefore this event will not receive any further development, drawing such analogies with lysichansk and severodonetsk, we can say that i have very big doubts that they will be able to build up offensive actions or whether they will have an offensive potential, this is a question that i have, er, i am very seriously worried, at least really, no, because there will not be such a potential, and er, in principle, the front line here will stabilize that well, in principle, it gives us the opportunity to regroup and continue to exhaust the enemy on new lines of defense that were prepared in advance . that is, it will not change the operational situation very seriously. well, then why was it necessary to be there for so long if we leave nothing changes, then the question arises

why were we there for so long, very simply , very simply, let's rewind our memory tape a little and remember the statements of the president of ukraine and general zuluzhny about what from the direction by the way, the minister of defense there and other leaders and intelligence also said that we actually had on this day at the end of november a group of russian, i emphasize, russian troops in belarus were building up and it at that time it had a population of approximately 12.5 thousand and let's remember those active measures implemented in the belarusian e-e by the de facto authorities in order to strengthen readiness for demobilization and in fact we will talk about lukashenko from mobilization separates only one step, that is, the signature in the document about mobilization or did it happen, nothing happened this week, if

you even go back to the open sources of the telegram channel, the belarusian district is already the third echelon with russian servicemen leaving belarus in the direction of the rostov region. the word tasks are completed simply so that, well, on the imagination of people who are watching this program now, and on my imagination, i will also imagine and how it happens, that is, relatively speaking, i will give whether it is zelenskyi or syrskyi or someone in the headquarters says let's stay here until we until the russians lose 20,000 troops. well, like in bakhmut, for example, yes. now there are rumors that they just ground 20,000 troops there . true. false, i don't know .

war, but it's just means, that is, if war is mathematics, as many believe, and i can't argue because i'm not a military person, and then it's just we have such a tool to do it, so that 20,000 died there, if we see what comes to on the 20th, having already organized the second and third line of defense, we can retreat because this task, this task is accomplished, that is , 20,000 people can 19 or 21 already if this is the task . a little bit wrong, the task is measured in the enemy’s ability to carry out certain specific actions, and i was just giving an explanation for this reason. that is, we are talking about the risk of an attack from belarus, the risk of an attack from the north on kyiv in particular. well, actually, in other directions, yes from

bakhmut's task was to reduce or make this risk impossible. it is not about a specific number , for example, 20 19 21 17 1/2 or 18 thousand . it is about the fulfillment of tasks, the task that was set to reduce the threat, for example, for kyiv, reducing the possibility of deploying some combat operations on new directions or old new directions and this task was accomplished , the enemy suffered such losses that make it impossible to concentrate his troops in other directions and they were involved in hostilities that are limited to us we have been talking about this for almost a month, literally in five directions in the eastern direction, they emphasize only in the eastern direction, that is, this is a heavy battle with losses , serious losses, including from our side in the bakhmut direction, it was impossible to conduct offensive operations of the enemy , both in the south and and in the north it is not about a specific number that

20,000 waste is about the fulfillment of tasks and that is why we were forced to some extent to throw units there of the 30th brigade and the 80th brigade and some other units that are there including territorial defense was involved in order to fulfill these very tasks and not to give the enemy the opportunity to deploy , which is actually prescribed in the tasks for defense, for the defense of the operation of any army, there is such a thing as an instruction on operational art that defines the parameters of such operations , we have basically completed these tasks, the enemy is incapable, now this is large-scale offensive actions on wide areas of the front , using a lot of e-e weapons and combat equipment, that is, on other areas of the front, we we observe approximately the same activity that was also in bakhmut and in the direction of matchmaking crime in the area of ​​avdiivka

maryinka and lazy nugledarci separately and separately . and so bakhmut pulled it out. you know how i once gave an example of once upon a time, in summer cottages, in order to ward off ants, they simply put such moist sugar and the ants crawled in there, they were simply thrown away, so they were diverted , that's how it worked here, because in fact we eliminated such a serious, well , not frivolous, such a powerful organism as dude wagner, they are actually now limited exclusively to separate tactical operations in the directions, we forced the enemy to be desperate by attacking bakhmut to lose their offensive momentum and on the southern front, where they are trying to gather some forces in the gorikhov area, but to talk about what the enemy is capable of, for example, now conducting offensive actions on zaporozhye, well, this is a little untrue, we

have actually already excluded it from the list of ours , we do not mention it. and in the summaries that i receive, the situation in the direction from belarus without changes and it has been more than a month, that is, in the economy, the task is to look at some specific figure, but simply at strategic intentions or, er, violations of those critical intentions . thank you dasha, now the second question has been explained. the last week, this drone activity, shelling activity, and just when i read where they hit , two options arise in my head, either they are shooting to somehow get on the nerves of the russians, because i don’t see such precise hits anywhere. is this

because it's just us, we don't have these drones that accurate. is it to publicize putin , to unnerve the russian public at large , let's say yes. is it? is it preparation for the next attacks ? where and ukrainian intelligence and the ukrainian army knows where to go, this is a novella. i would say that it appeared recently , so in such a massive order, from topse in the south to leningrad to st. petersburg in the north, it is somehow already something new the ukrainian army is so absolutely well, i will say that the ukrainian intelligence knows absolutely clearly where to shoot and how to shoot, because well, i will not tire you with the list of targets that are known to everyone, rather those who need it, who knows what about

these drone attacks eh, once again putting together a museum that can be formed in our country and p- remembering the statement at the end of last year that eh, ukraine is completing the testing or training of drones of a long-distance radio judge, eh, there is such a concept in military science as eh complex scientific research and research design work , which includes the testing of relevant samples in different environmental conditions with different parameters in different directions. long-range weapons outside the territory of ukraine, at the same time, they emphasize that ukraine can do anything with its own weapons, and combining those three parameters, i will say that we

have actually seen it now. well, if you want, eh the practical stage of this complex of young scientific research and research design works e-e which e-e were aimed at testing the capabilities of e-e technology at this stage in order to make amendments to improve the design and to make it more efficient and this will help us not it is necessary to attack the brain, of course, no one rejects the aspects of informational and psychological operations, but this will help us to act more concentratedly in those directions and at the depth of the battle orders and the entire enemy that will be to establish a primary interest for us p serhii i understand that there is some point on the territory of ukraine where you can put that drone take a compass if not, well, i won’t be able to explain it to the younger generation what a compass is to drive 1,000 km such a circle or half circle and

roughly imagine what can touch with its weapons ukraine is at war with russia, absolutely pleasant news by the way, but this, but it still needs time because , of course, yes, this is research work, and you can see that it is subversive, well, let's say it, a drone just fell, just fell. and tell me what talk already about the technical before the rock and not the ambassador of israel in ukraine mykhailo brodsky in an interview with the bbc this week said that israel can install a ukrainian early warning system about the anti-air alarm that this will mean that, in principle , it will be clear exactly where the missile is flying where is the gentleman flying, that is, the alarm will not be announced with e-e over the entire territory of the country, but to a specific place. where does it fly there, regions, even districts, to what extent can such systems really work in the conditions

of a conflict between russia, ukraine, mr. and i to you i will say as a person who was a user of such a system for 14 months in baghdad. this is an extremely important system and it is critically necessary for us. this is the system that detects the flash of a missile launch or the launch of a missile , and it notifies about such an air attack, and in our case, the specific case of bohdan i only had 6-10 seconds of reaction between e-e alerts, this is about a more perfect system, because over time it has been more than 10 years of being in cancer, but how important is it e-e necessary to understand the following, our front-line cities such as kharkiv, dnipro, zaporizhzhia, kherson, and others there, the nikopol district , which is constantly under fire from the occupiers, really need such a system, because not always

an s300 missile can be intercepted, or a s-400 , and it will be about it message israel is a virtuoso - developed a virtuoso system that allows you to react to just such a parameter, the inspector is the whole reason for such systems well, believe me, as a person who has gone through it all , we need it, so it will require some training so that people react, but although if we can save at least a dozen lives of our comrades using this system. it is very good. i did not lose any of my officers while in the position of senior staff. i would just add that sometime 3 days ago, i read somewhere that israel has already installed all the systems in poland for ukraine, that is, they do not supply directly, but they are already in poland, and it’s like well, here i don’t know

what’s happening there, it will start to act so that we don’t know, but the poles already have it , but it is specifically addressed to ukraine, the poles they will be transmitted later in ukraine, or maybe they have already been transmitted or maybe it has already been two days since they were transmitted well, in short, let's say this when i will be in those places and i will hear a specific signal and it is very specific, i will inform you that such systems are already in our country and one more thing question well, we talked a little about belarus , and the issue of transnistria is raised again. it seems to me that we worked with you, mr. sergey, i have no idea who. how can there be danger from transnistria if there are such a number of russians? troops, although everyone understands that these are russian troops, they are just transnistrians with russian passports, and where are not russians with russian

passports to plan for landing as much as possible, should we forget about and the history of transnistria, do we still need to remember everything, you know, i would e- i was not talking about the transnistrian situation as an operation to attract attention, because unfortunately we cannot say about an absolutely calm situation in moldova itself, and this is actually related to the increase in the activity of protests. of course, having such a simple the unique experience of protests in ukraine can be determined at first glance to what extent this process of protests is dangerous , it is about the number and specificity of protesting but at the same time, there are certain signs of possible destabilization, because we recorded, for example, the presence of of such a people's guard or people's guard of such

a unit, the so-called blue ribbons, which consist of such rather specific individuals , including former employees of the ministry of internal affairs, the ministry of defense, and other power structures of moldova of course, relevant personnel from the same transnistria can also join, possible personnel from the balkans, and so on and the like, and now, in my opinion, the transnistrian topic distracts attention from the situation in moldova. i did a special analysis such that i saw that the level the support of the pas party represented by sando has halved and it amounts to approximately 26%. the total level of support for pro-russian forces in moldova today is already more than 50%. already more than 50 thus, this protest activity against the background of what is being dispersed there, distracting me in relation to some mythical threats from transnistria or threats from

ukraine, and there are none, to which we treat, to put it mildly , with a smile, may lead to the fact that and already today there were signs of this, well, according to the articles that i receive from moldova, uh, that we may face the problem of uh , early parliamentary elections, and then you understand that the situation can change, we will treat it with such a smile, but the agenda of moldovan of the government will change to the absolutely opposite, i.e. from a pro-european to a pro-russian position, and then the situation will be really more threatening because there is an opportunity there through third countries through the balkans to introduce an increased number of militants and other , as they say, destructive elements, and the situation itself if moldova turns to a kind of pro-russian enclave. well, it will

cause the need to attract a larger number of our saltosaurs there, which, let's say , will not always reflect well on our tasks regarding the further offensive. transnistria can form as much as possible today, according to the most objective estimates, up to three battalions of tactical groups, that is, two battalions of tactical groups from four brigades that are being cleaned, the so-called transnistrian, and that battalion , a practical group and a composition of the so-called ukrainian contingent, which on 70% consists of local residents thank you thank you thank you sergey slave military expert a participant in peacekeeping positions and a reserve colonel of the armed forces of ukraine and let's move on to diplomacy valery was taught yes diplomat of the ambassador of ukraine in the united states 15-19 years in touch with us thank you mr. valeriy it's nice to see you and it's nice to see you on friday i also want i want to say something to myself by the way we were talking greetings valeriy er we were talking about

the russians are actively working on moldova, now there will be elections in estonia on sunday, where the estonian party is a conservative caviar known for its special political positions, it is now second in terms of the number of votes, well presidential elections in montenegro where pro-russian candidates directly they are just testing about the black sea and it says that russia is watching all these countries very carefully, but i want you to know that mr. valery to start the conversation with the moment connected with the meeting of the state secret of the united states with the minister of foreign affairs of russia during the meeting of the 20 why india? because this whole year there were no contacts, there was not even an attempt to make contacts when lavrov came to some kind of acceptance of the protocol that was during the meeting of the ministers of foreign affairs of the twenty countries of indonesia, then the heads of foreign policy known from the group of seven, they just left this meeting, they didn't want to be in the same room with him about the meeting blinky, not lavrov, there was no talk at all, and here suddenly it's real

. let it be 10 minutes, but this is a meeting - it's a contact, no matter how we say, linkin will attack him there mala vrov answered him that the very possibility of contact on the line of the secretary of state, the minister of foreign affairs, it seems to me that the situation has changed, or i am wrong, well, there are several aspects , first any meeting, even such a meeting, is not a very short meeting, it is real, what is then fixed by two parties as a meeting eh of ministers, this is really the first time in such a long time, now regarding who thundered at whom at such meetings, even in such conditions , we accept the laurels. that's why they talk, i'm sure that no one there was yelling at anyone , moreover, i don't think that they talked about ukraine at all, because it's unlikely that

this issue will be solved by bularov, he doesn't solve it , it's not his competence, he's a propagandist to our question, and here is a question that concerns precisely the position of the ministry of foreign affairs, which was sent on the termination of participation in the snd3. this can really be discussed, and the release of an american citizen from russia is also possible, that is, i think that rather this was the topic of a short conversation by stepan. yes, please, i would like to to focus on the position of china and on the one hand russia continues to shout that china is with us here we are all russian chinese brothers forever as they sang in the 50s on the other hand there, for example, aliexpress is coming from russia and now russia will not be able to receive parts of drones, we are not talking about huawei

and so on and the like, that is, in words china is very close to russia, but in business china is not very close to russia, how much should we worry because it seems to me that trade between china and the united states by the states of china and europe is so huge that china will not dare, thanks to this trade , to build bridges with russian trade, which i do not know, is 100 times less than the american and european combined, the question was put yes for several hours of discussion of all factors you have 20 minutes so you can do a lot first of all china entered the game at this stage uh geopolitically before that he tried to delay this moment now he is forced to do it because he understands that after the war