[000:00:00;00] works, and the moment that will be after the operation of ukraine in this war , eh, how will the liberation of the pashenkov occupation of belarus look like quietly. with weapons in their hands they will come and liberate belarus , and this is a scenario with everything else, because no matter how white there is, belarusians are very, very afraid and do not want a war, especially a civil war, and the threat of a civil war is on its knees will be mystical and hypothetical, may pay the elites of the vakul lukashynka well, maybe 100 of lukashenkov's entourage, the closest who

a-a will stand on his month , what kind of person will he be ? spread that to the people, the people are definitely controlled by their largesse, they do not want any kind of loss of sovereignty, even though i show myself a-a sociological research a-a, no matter how skeptical they are, but what, well, 20 percent a-a orphans of the belarusian population are ah, russian supporters, but the main question that is constantly in my head is also about belarus when i think, if i am a belarusian general, i give orders.

i'm playing, and that muscovite is already playing, the one from russia. that is, i don't see the logic here. i want to rule if well , i wasn't in power, so i don't know how there is, but it's just interesting. well, the psychology of a person in power. it seems to me that he should be the most important thing, and not want to. so that there was someone above him too, you are somehow completely distorted some kind of anomaly, well, here he is from several points , of course. here are those who , and there was no one above you , then here we are of course talking about a bad stop above them. and who is standing above their name? yes. lukashenko is standing above them. and this is how putin will be. yes, above the generals. is there commander-in-chief lukashenko ? - and others, the general of the russian

alleys will change here, that there will be changes here, i will cool down they won't get more here , the silence will be changed here, i'm going to do everything about it, how many russian generals have stolen sobenok that i don't own, and they've built castles, and they don't live elegantly, and they have millions, uh, grandfathers are hidden in garages there i don't want that in the same way, but in belarus they can't use such a pronoun , and they don't think they have any reason not to go further because of that. sent to the service of russia, some of them do not now have goethe millions and good salaries and somewhere there they serve in moscow not a-a and they serve in the best case somewhere in this siberia and yes they are er-er served by the russians they are treated as

traitor traitors and er-er but the belarusian generals are military generals who i think that under russia, it will be easier, this is not thought through by their minds, where it is not perceived by the logistic-logical chain they do not work well, the officials are leading how do the budget workers calibrate the average zno and i do not live according to the principle, as it is in the movie eh wedding in malinovka white people came the reds scored. we came for the reds, and they didn't. i didn't i think that they, like the budget officers and the average officials, are borscht from the fact that there will be no change in the version. lukaszuk , look at the last question, a short answer if possible. belarus has allowed poles visa-free entry to belarus, why are

the poles all of a sudden became such great friends lukashenko, for lukashenko, the personal and the most important enemies are not the collective west, not america, there is nothing there, germany, but the new poland, that’s it, that’s the poles for him , the most criminal enemies, but here it is with a few nuances there are no tourists there is no money, and they wanted to buy some goods at one time. yes, there were wars of the hockey championship , and the hotels are empty. businesses are failing. money is needed, and even in this way. let people go. it’s another matter. what do the people there understand about lukashenko’s version? well, no. the poles will go, they are leading a great situation and you are talking about what is happening in belarus. hundreds of thousands of belarusians who came to poland

are hiding from lukashenka's gestapo. lukashenko's regime is ready to give pyromovs. here we are looking at this. we are opening and we are ready to negotiate, so it is coming to us . recognize lukashenko as a legitimate president , seek sanctions and we will live on peacefully . well, here they are. thank you, we will thank our guests and we will move on. let's move on to the answer to the question, and the federal security service of russia announced that they expelled the ukrainian drg from the bryansk region, but the nazis seem to have managed to replace everything, what do you think about

yesterday's circus, in short, by taking hostages about the shooting of a school bus, and about russia , the volunteer corps voluntarily took all responsibility for this whisperer, do you have any thoughts on this matter? to be honest, i remember that a few weeks ago, the russian leadership was informed that the border of the bryansk region was from ukraine securely closed, it was right in the presence of putin, it seems to me now suddenly it turns out that anyone can cross the border between them, one moment i was caught off guard, the next moment they say that they pushed out these saboteurs of ukraine and fired at them there. and why did they push them out and not let's say they killed them in the end, yes, that is also strange. here they come, we push them out there to ukraine, too , the second point, seriously, the third point is that they initially said that there would be a meeting the security council then postponed postponed today nothing. there was no meeting

at all. you know, i always remember when this happens. i always remember that time when houses exploded in moscow and when you went to bed every time and didn't know when you would wake up in the morning, it's not very pleasant. the feeling was absolutely obvious, especially when they found hexogen not in moscow anymore, but somewhere in ryazan. yes , what is happening is part of this uh, minuses, that this is the fsb. by the way, the fsb was then managed by a guy who never went anywhere, who is now close to putin sits and everything reports to him, and i believe that these people, in principle , in order to support the fighting spirit of the population , not even to scare the population so that it is ready with any of their actions, they can go to tero , because if terror, you understand, well because we live in poverty and we have delays in our salaries and so actually, i also apologize. well, of course, but you see, we are fighting terror, we use terror, you saw that it was mined in the bryansk area

, and the ambulance is being replaced by your force, and if you don’t believe him, we will play along with a couple of houses, but this is the last ace. well, because if it doesn’t work out the russian people, how is everything, how is it a national war , that is, they have been there for a week or a month, they have been saying for two or two years that we have a war , a people's holy war, what did they find? i think they need to do nothing in response, or they just sit quietly well, i am not convinced of something. it seems to me that there is no such long-term logic here, it will be enough for 2-3 months, and then the devil knows what can happen. well, it is clear that the russians will not rebel. this is obvious because they did not simply not rebel so that they understood this logic well, volodymyr warned right now that these are nazis. but you thought that all this would happen in ukraine, and here they are already here, well, it's not a question about our drones, let's say whether they are ours, we don't know, or about military objects that are exploding

, this is exactly the question about this type of action it is not known by what, whether it is in favor of putin or against it, i can’t, i see that it is not rooted, ungovernability is growing, the ungovernable were growing that it is the soviet experience that the best masters of chaos have always been at the front , yes we govern, that is , democracy was governed at first, now it must be governed chaos it's just that they don't know anything else, mr. yurii they ask us that the maintenance of one russian prisoner costs the state 10,000 uah, that 's three times more than the average pension, why do we receive prisoners, why don't we exchange them or we don't shoot the main thing by the way, how do you feel about the death penalty for terrorists in israel, do you propose to introduce it for those who encroach on the lives of israelis so far as far as i know, one person was lost in israel , eichmann eichmann is called yes, there are indeed

such proposals now i understand but i am adversary first of all, i am against shooting these people and i am in favor of exchanging them, but i really want to explain this. the only country in europe that still leaves the death penalty as soon as you talk about it, but it, along with these, is not a member the council of europe is again the only country in europe, even russia was, well, except for russia, but everyone excluded it because of the war, which is not a member of the council of europe, if we suddenly restore the death penalty, then you can say goodbye to the european union with investments and everything, not just there for a long time, but also surrender to russia right away. of course. you won't even need to shoot these russian prisoners of war. they will simply buy them off. you just need to release them and give them power, so there is no need for illusions. there will be

legislation like in european countries. in some states, the united states also has the death penalty, but it is a debatable issue there and it is not beneficial there, it happens very rarely , the civilized world in principle realizes that there should be no death penalty, and it is absolutely obvious to me that the exchange of prisoners of war is a long story and counting the money well, of course, i would like it to be as many prisoners of war as possible, let me not spend money. especially since ukraine is not a country that is currently making money, the ukrainian economy is on artificial respiration with western aid will mostly increase. this is how we will live for years. we need to get used to it and not invent 10,000 hryvnias, because no hryvnias have existed in nature for a long time. part of the money we have, but you don't live on this money and you haven't seen any pensions , it's nothing, it's nothing, oh, we live in

such a country, the war will end, we 'll rebuild the country and we'll earn again as we used to earn, and maybe someday we won't take loans, time will pass quickly, it won't be like that, so no, you don't need to count money in other people's pockets when it's not there, yes. do you think that prolonging the war is beneficial for russia, or not, and it is exhausting itself because of it? well, i think in general that all the sanctions against russia are for a long time a long distance this is a styrian distance this is not a sprint distance tomorrow nothing will happen tomorrow nothing will happen in russia so that they will all be terrified and they will have no money tomorrow they will have money the day after tomorrow there may be less of it and the day after tomorrow there will be even less but this is a long process, first of all, secondly, you need to understand it simply. take the domestic product of the united states and russia, europe and russia in some reference book and

you will understand that as long as we have the support of the west, we can hold on longer than russia , but only if we have this support and it will last for how long. i do not know for sure these conversations that some say that if ukraine does not go on the attack for six months , they will begin to pressure ukraine to end the war, i can fully believe it because the west little money in comparison with their budgets and it’s still money i can’t have such pressure for one simple reason, we also need putin to want an agreement well, i don’t see any desire of putin well, well, maybe they will agree there behind ukraine’s back it’s possible, i don’t believe i think. i think. about the other thing, i think that exactly this is unlikely, it is unlikely to happen, but the fact that it is not beneficial for russia to prolong the war from russia, of course, because it is beneficial for the blitzkrieg, but if

you choose between ending the war and prolonging the war, then of course it is beneficial for putin to continue war because he hopes that what he failed to achieve in three days he will be able to achieve in three years, and to end the war with a defeat, he was not able to, so he will fight as long as he has enough strength , resources, popular support and money, as long as it takes he can simply he can simply suffer a military defeat relatively speaking ukrainian troops on the border of ukraine and russia yes here the war may not end but it is stopped because it is a completely different strategic position it will not be for the russians it there will be no state borders, it will be a demarcation line on which they will prepare for a new attack, but this is a different international situation, it is possible nato, well , that is, let's wait until it happens, of course , we are told that it will happen this year, and god forbid , but we can see it and in the following years. so we must understand

tatyana at the beginning of the fall. what do you think, dear gentlemen, that during his tenure in power, mr. president still did not understand that he was elected to lead a democratic country, that he was just a little tired and i do not remember that democracy without of free, independent media, this is ms. tetyana who is attacking the president in our country. and i will tell her that during the second world war , once again, get into some encyclopedia, you will look - see if there was censorship in the united states or there was censorship in britain, and you you'll see. there are a lot of exceptions, let's say censorship. i wouldn't say that there was such censorship. i once studied it specifically, but there was such self-censorship , that is, not in britain. in america, in britain it's even stricter, but in america, all the

mass media simply realized that it's not worth it. to play on hitler's side and began to be more careful, but some organizations were called and created to ensure that there was no leakage of information, they were i would not say that in ukraine i like all this, but i understand that we had even before the war it wasn't so much that i could say that it's a complete democracy . i can't. that's why i'm criticizing now and saying that he doesn't understand that zelenskyy. in order not to play on the field of the enemy i think that this is not what we are talking about, the disconnection of channels from the digital air, let's say e and direct. this is an ordinary bureaucratic volunteer and practically a violation of the legislation in force in ukraine. if, in principle

, the head of state, who is the guarantor of freedom of speech, does not react to such things, this is a serious problem for further development country and once again you can have no doubt that this will hold back european integration and euro-atlantic integration and that this work is not in favor of ukraine, it is work against ukraine when there is an unwillingness to dialogue with journalists who knowingly fighting for ukraine, talking about the facts of corruption, telling the facts of abuse - this is not work for ukraine, because everything that weakens our state is supported by putin, and of course neither in the united states nor in great britain during the second world war, this did not happen, it could only happen in the soviet to the union as an authoritarian state , i would very much not like modern ukraine to resemble the stalinist soviet union, even in trivial matters, even in matters of not allowing certain journalists there at the press conference of the leader, because then

there is no point in hoping that the ukrainian state will in principle exist and not become a part of the russian federation at a certain moment . the road to dictatorship is the road to the union with moscow. this must also be understood. however, i think that this is all a discussion. difficult, and this will be a time for the protection of democracy, and this will be a time for a serious public debate, and we will have to make quite serious efforts so that this serious public debate does not turn into a conflict, which may, due to its saturation and to overcome the consequences of the war between the russians against the ukrainians so that the ukrainians realize that only a democratic european single state without voluntarism, without authoritarianism, without leadership , any other ukrainian state can survive. says that

it should be done this way and this way correctly. i agree , but there are no buttons in the keel. sometimes it will be a very long job, it's too much for our wonderful officials, they won't want to give an interview to everyone in one second, they won't want to explain their behavior, they won't want to fight, they will fight through the verkhovna rada in a simple way , so that this law does not restore it, but even if there were the best in the world there is no media button like that, so you need to prepare not for victories but for a long struggle and and and and it will be no no 2,3 no 5 and when someone says that it is necessary, this way, this is not necessary yes, it is necessary and it

is not necessary but you have to understand that well like that a natural historical process, it is unfortunately a long one, you will not get anywhere. two editions of wall street , none, and the bills wrote and then deleted materials about the fact that in the event of the failure of president zelenskyi’s counter-attack, they can offer to start negotiations. european politicians well, you see, i assume, vitaliy assumes less , i will say otherwise. i believe that putin will not conduct any negotiations with ukraine, that even if all western politicians force zelensky to import the negotiations with putin will also hear the recognition of territorial realities, denazification, demilitarization, termination of us relations. i am convinced that russia will not change any of its conditions from february 24, 2022. but we see then he calls logic with his behavior, well, putin of 2002

putin of 2008 putin of 2022 is not very similar to each other putin is not similar but what do you think putin of 2004 can be like satisfied similar to putin in 2008, people do not develop back, they develop only in one direction, but compulsion also exists, no one knows what will happen in six months, i am usually afraid to look far ahead and not very far ahead. tarot cards and many other special e-e things, i would like to know how you evaluate the questions from the fifth channel during the president's press conference dedicated to the anniversary of the full-scale invasion and the action of zelensky himself, do you not see him then

the first bell before the fact that he can become a dictator. well, i will start from the beginning , because it has been since the 19th year, in 2003, four years have passed. -conferring conferences i don't understand why they are talking about some kind of first calls when it's like that all the time they go through i don't see no well it's well we're already used to it it seems to me indeed i'm right in italy from the first press conference someone was invited someone no that's why world war, but to someone unflattering such was the case. and judging by the faces, it does not surprise me that such a rather negative attitude towards someone. i understand again that what is the kata-radimye stain of capitalism, about which they talked about in the soviet union, we also have radium stains of socialism or post-socialism, or you can call it kuchmizma or the yanukovych of vetchism, they are there and you will not get anywhere, they will be for some time, but if you know the poles of their time at the very beginning of the 90s, there

were a couple of such cases when journalists felt offended by one or the other minister or first deputy minister who invited them and then he began to teach them simply, then journalists never came to him and he was forced to him, already senior comrade, you are probably resigning because we will not be able to report to society at all what we are doing here in our ministry because people will not come . so believe me to me if that's all i'll never say that you're not the president or the prime minister or the speaker if tomorrow all the journalists don't come to the first second third or any minister or deputy, then the day after tomorrow everything will be fine everything will be great everyone will to give answers well, here it seems to me that journalists are like that. they have always been like that. someone came, someone supported

journalistic unity , some journalistic rules, ethical, some journalistic structure, and someone did not support it, if it was ha. so on, if only journalists stopped working, there is no internet, there are no newspapers , there is no television, there is no radio, the pechersk hills are waking up, and nothing is known about what is happening in the world, what is happening in ukraine, nothing the tv is working, the newspaper is not working, the internet is not working, everything is over very quickly, the media must not be oligarchic , the state is beyond the state, even during the war , there is no paying money to oligarchic tv channels that participate in the marathon, because it cannot be like that, and this is then an oligarchic state symbiosis by the way, the oligarchic state is seriously called in italian, the word mafia must be fought with the mafia in the media and then everything will be fine where you can ask more serious questions about the bang for the defense of the city turned into a fundamental symbolic moment of the war, as well as the capture

of the city for the enemy, foreign experts write that it is not fundamental, especially the influence of war, but the life of soldiers is fundamental. what do you think about this? in the history of mankind, i have never met a war where the lives of soldiers were completely safe. but this is the reality of any war when the general says that we need to hold this node because there we are preparing the deployment of something or we are distracting someone. i am not a military expert. i am not i know, but it's such a story that we can't imagine such a thing, you're not like that, when did the syrian or luluzh or supreme zelenskyi come, we have to keep bakhmut, guys, at any price and at any price, the fight for

freedom is blood, otherwise freedom no one in the history of mankind gained without shedding a single drop of blood somehow did not come out with freedom on top of this does not happen therefore it is important after the end of the war to create appropriate commissions and clearly analyze every military situation then who gave what orders who was guided by what motives who were what options for the development of events, who was wrong, who was not wrong, this is how it usually happens in the post-war period, if there is an attempt to understand the actions of military command during the war, this usually leads to the fact that the state that is engaged in this during the war disappears, and then the mistakes of the military command the winners are starting to discuss, as much as we would like it, i think that we will just have to be observers of what will happen, there will be many more very difficult uh

situations, this must also be understood, we did not pass and the time of the big part, i won’t say it now in percentages , er, some numbers , we haven’t passed a large part of the difficult situations that we still have to er, survive, so the last question. yes a new record of receiving plasma this leads china to the world energy monopoly will not lead calm down this means the longest term is 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 one more discoveries friends thank you for everything

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