[000:00:00;00] report information to us on the website of the child tracing service or in the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram ilya samoilenko, a legendary fighter of the equally legendary azov with the call sign gendal went to fight in 2015, at that time he was studying to be a historian, but the desire to be a warrior turned out to be stronger in 2017 he received injury since then, instead of his left hand, he has a prosthesis, but this did not stop ilya. he learned to practice with weapons again before the full-scale invasion. ilya went to mariupol

. samoilenko was among the hundreds of soldiers who remained under siege during the bombings in the underground tunnels of azov, from there he told the whole world about the fierce battles in the city, the soldiers refused to surrender. until the order of the top military leadership of ukraine came , he was in captivity for 120 days and returned home as a result of the exchange in september of last year . i am sure that the main battles of azov are still ahead and ukraine cannot lose the war and there is only one option aha how did you meet the first day of the plenipotentiary invasion, where were you in mariupol at that time, probably yes, technically i was at the urzuf base, this is one of our bases near mariupol, well, the first day. it was the 24th. well, how am i, how, how, as i promised, i was at the right time, in the right place, with the right people , i met with my comrades, with my

unit, you knew what you needed to be right at that moment that is, you felt before, well, that there would be a full-scale invasion, and well, at that moment, you had to be there. well, how i felt , i knew, uh, that something would happen, it was obvious starting somewhere from the month of november, i think. that's where they are waiting and all these reports from mh6 from of american intelligence there, our european partners from the main intelligence agency, and so on, just how did we feel? how did i personally feel about what i saw ? from the point of view of the perception there, these were well-conceived things, like me then, and i say the same now, yes, before the beginning of the large-scale invasion, the russians had all possible levers of influence on us there, both economically and socially, and culturally, he was there in some places

and the main political problem is that, as they say, karl von clause gave his marks to the famous book about war, that war and the continuation of politics by other methods. this is just a classic strategy , but the russians did not need to start . -e full-scale invasion in order to have an influence on us to continue to have an influence they could strengthen it in other ways about how it seems to me yes they decided to just change the rules of the game and challenge not only there security in the region yes how they say that there is a geopolitical base of some kind of geopolitical balance, and they challenged the system of collective security and, uh, well, the world order. well, you can say that. well, because after the second world war, it was a civilized country. they began to negotiate with each other. yes, yes. distribute spheres of influence there , not because of hostilities there, but because of innovative sectors

of the economy, because of the correct structure of society , more progressively , yes, because of mild competition. for example, the russians have decided on a more effective system. head yes, but i think that it is obvious to almost everyone, those are the analogies that were drawn there. yes, there is a guy with a school bully who wanted to show something to someone. yes, there is a character who wants to play at the table with big players. well, this is all very far-fetched. yes, you just need to understand that if a resource is an accumulated resource. and if i am the tension of this resource

. its a big story there large in terms of terms and years, it was an empire with absolutely clear, clear imperial characteristics, the first of which is the need for expansion in many other empires there in past years there past millennia they also had this characteristic and expansion was necessary because the empire cannot live at the expense of itself, it cannot develop at the expense of planned, calm progress, and revolutionary steps are needed, the seizure of new territories, the rise of national national consciousness and national pride, well, if it is at all well, it is permissible to use such words there in the direction of russia well, because i think that it is not not entirely true and well , as a result, well, well, a new, well, a new percentage of capture is obtained, the national rise rests on laurels and it is necessary to capture

in another way. well, this empire she it's simple. actually, our task is ours. yes, civilizational, yes, it's to stop this development , that's the origin. but again, a lot of attention is paid to russia. even now, after a year of war there, although we first of all need to concentrate on our issues on our problems, because this is a big factor of distraction, well, that is, you can understand your internal systems very well, yes, their politicians in their financial and economic system, and how they are strongly affected by sanctions, you can read a lot of analytics, for example, in prominent ones there you can watch all the investigations of the world's insiders there, there are groups that are engaged in research, for example, there is the suppression of the position in russia in russia and so on and so on and so on. you can do a lot of things, but well

, that's not what we need, well, actually speaking, but it might be very interesting for someone, well, you should stop yourself because well, you can conduct very interesting experiments there with the life of insects , for example, yes, but when the house is on fire, yes , you don’t often choose curtains, or as a historian and a military man, tell me how in general empires are dying, and what is our role in this? ukraine is a small country, and it is in a state of war, how can we destroy this bloody empire? well, here it is a little wrong. i will correct it. we are a small country . we are a big country. with with great roots and a great heritage, which many ukrainians don't even appreciate, they don't know about it, they reject it, yes, but they come to perceive their ukrainian as exclusively reactionary yes, and so on, that is, well, this is a typical example, and a lot of people there

have switched to the ukrainian language they will sign up there on the 24th, because before it was more comfortable for them to use russian. okay, it shouldn't be a motivation for this, that is, you have to love ukraine, not against someone, yes, and for ukraine, that is, well, it's not to spite my mother , i'll freeze my ears, it's not, it's not that generally here it is in general, there is no way it can relate to the same thing , for example, there with the ukrainian-language content there, experienced there all these years, how did it transform, how was it created ? youtube and so on as just an alternative. yes, then anything was done, but in ukrainian. yes , the quality suffered from this, but the content must be first of all high-quality

. to understand that well, i'm here talking about that's what e there people are reacting to the perception of their ukrainian, but well, maybe it will be and so it will be possible for us, the final result , the final result, because, returning to the actual question, yes, how can a small country resist the big empires , how will the empire be destroyed, the empire will be destroyed, but just for this, people must understand that i have a small country, and people must also understand that only by joining efforts and understanding the personal responsibility of everyone, then it is possible to somehow predict, plan the results, because well words are just words. yes, there are words that can in a certain way change the society there, change the consciousness, but simply, well, they must be very

powerful words, and another huge point is that nothing is given just like that, and after a year of war, yes, i already see it there in society such tendencies that people think that simply believing in themselves, just believing as a woodmantra we repeat, believed in the armed forces, guys , well, guys and girls, yes, you need not just believe in the armed forces, you need to understand that how can it not be useful. actually, well, it is a straight line military agitation if it is because i have recently also seen such a very shameful tendency for people to shift responsibility from themselves to someone else, as always, and this is the problem that must be dealt with in the first place. how do you see the collapse of the russian empire hmm, as soon as possible, we are going to the wagons, but here, look at the moment

. yes, we all, uh, dream about that. about the implementation of the plan there , which is drawn on the map in budanov ’s office. where is the map, very very interesting, very good . personally, i think that it is pleasant for contemplation, but uh, for example, for our western partners, yes, with a more pleasant and more favorable system, a system of controlled chaos, well, that is, well, okay, let's really look each other in the eye. yes, there is russia, all that it has, well , nuclear weapons, if they are distributed there and will gonize there and there there are several dozens of at least some smaller states , well, it will be several dozen smaller states with the same problem, and it will be absolutely impossible to control all of them, well, it will be absolutely impossible . well, frankly, it is the politicians' business here

well, i'm a military man, my business is military, and well, it's just a long case , i'm just going there now, not at the deployment point of my unit, and now in kyiv, because a lot of work is being done. well, as before, we did it. yes, and i look forward quite optimistically, because there is a demand for our experience in society and in other units of the armed forces, and we are happy to share this experience. well, this is absolutely normal practice, so that in a critical situations to help people do better tell me when you realized that you wanted to be a soldier. it's a very difficult question. to be honest, when i joined the service, i planned to serve there for a certain period of time, and well, damn it, in those realities. yes, in the 16th year

, there was hope that there we there we are going on a decisive offensive there we are retaking the territory so and simply, well, the war will end na and we are all there how are you all volunteers yes, there we will go quietly to our homes there so we will continue civilian life we ​​will just live as we used to well not everything is so simple so and i guess i understood that i realized that i'm not what i want, i have to be a soldier. yes, when i returned to the service before the full-scale invasion , well, it's just going back to the same thesis that at the right time in the right place with the right people uh, um, well, again after all, very often recently they are singled out somehow, people in the media , where do they live

? we show them all strength in unity, strength in the ani unit, not in individuals, although our unit is azov. we just strengthen the abilities of certain individuals and use people as efficiently as possible. it will be simple if she is assigned somewhere in the orderly manner yes and against her will well somehow it is the formula of productive assembly or can you say so and is there any you know yes philosophical, some kind of warrior's path and what a warrior should be, in your opinion. look, this is a very extensive question. it can have several approaches, such as european

, asian, ancient, epic, archaic, and so on. but the first thing is the most important thing, this is the archetype of service. our lives don't belong to us, they belong to society, we give them to society, and we don't ask for anything back. well, because these are the rules of the game, we don't do it there for the sake of some mythical social good, is it just for everything good against everything bad, no, i understood that it is right, but before giving orders, giving commands, you have to learn to obey yourself, yes, this is the basis in principle. well, this is the basis, the same with service, that is, if you

understand that you are dedicated you devote yourself to society well, then it is possible that completely new horizons of perception open up, well, this is the difference, for example, between people who consciously chose the path of the military yes and people who were forced to become military, although the same thing can be said, for example, and there we are talking about ours about our volunteers there in the 14th year, they didn’t want to, it was forced , but still people decided to make a choice. yes, and that’s why now there are certain nuances, but even if a person was simply mobilized. well, as it is now , there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. it's just that the task of a person is to directly understand and grasp this truth, first of all, good day, you are in the army. well , there's nowhere to go, and the situation in our country is so very, very critical. well, it's really so,

and you should maximize your potential and your effectiveness due to the fact that you perceive reality as it is, you don't build castles in the air there, you don't paint illusions, you don't try to escape from reality, although reality can be very, very unpleasant and very traumatic, painful, from which you definitely want to escape e- and i have never condemned people who are going through difficult times because of difficult conditions because of difficult circumstances, yes, somewhere they give themselves some relaxation, for example well, but you must also understand that there is no relaxation moment in order to simply breathe out, it's ok, but to fall, for example, in pique, uh, self-pity, that's not about it anymore, it's wrong, it's not ok , well, if we all stick together, well, no one will collect piles of it society is traumatized by war, society is traumatized by war and this is reality which is impossible not to perceive, and as i often write on the internet

, i convert anger into donations, yes, they convert trauma into productivity, let it be compulsive , let it be breccia somehow compensatory, let it be, but you just have to work very hard but there is no unified scheme for that, that is, all people, all people are different , all people have personalities, and there you can find an approach to everyone, but it is also worth understanding now that you can sacrifice your personal for the good of society, because if we do not do it now , well, personally you may not be there anymore, but by the way, we went to psychologists after the capture, we talked, of course. well, this is absolutely normal, normal things

, well, to keep yourself together . again, i don't visit all the time, but if necessary, i knew who to turn to and i know who has it. well, who can help there, for example . well, the situation is also absolutely normal, but there is no need to stigmatize certain conditions of people there , especially if a person has gone through a mental trauma there well, how many people, like almost everyone, well, the only thing is that the help must also be correct, so that, well, not just to normalize the traumatized state of a person, yes, and to clearly define the boundaries between the norm and the abnormal, and because there is a lot of modern, modern practice there are psychologists, they simply normalize pathological conditions on the oh and this is wrong, it is possible, right, there is the run of the developed western societies, yes, where a person tries to perceive himself as they are, yes , not because of the desire for better, not because of

self-improvement, but not simply because of accepting himself as such you are with all the weaknesses, volumes and so on, motivating it by the fact that it's helve lavin on but well, it's a little bit wrong yes and if we had a goal a little higher yes, and we have on helsi for a shower we have some kind of lion now eh but it will be possible to talk about quality think then you know it, oh, one of the main postulates of tactical medicine, yes, yes, and we exchange life for health, well, when we save a person and in field conditions, yes, that is, we first think about life, but then about health, well, that's enough of such a crude analogy, well, enough a rough analogy, but it can take place , because after capture, yes, um, well, you should go to a psychologist

. it’s clear. training maybe there is a psychological one i am asking because, for example, in the event of being captured, how to behave there, how to withstand all this load, how did you personally withstand this load, what were you going to buy, well, an interesting question, well, first of all, some specific special psychological training was not carried out in our country, and in general, for all the armed forces there, i can say that such a phenomenon as mpz is a moral and psychological support, but as psychological help, it was always considered quite secondary. so this is me i think it's a shameful practice. well, it's a reality. i don't blame anyone. it's just that. it's just like that, and because everyone, usually , there are officers there who deal with the moral and psychological support

of demerits and so on . people who simply occupy a place in the staff is not considered correct because it is important for us. we carried out effective actions regarding the overall reform of the service , the development of the service of work with personnel and the deputy for the work of the zno staff. and this is a person who can perform all functional the duties of the commander, because he is his deputy. plus, he has a very wide range of powers and responsibilities. and it doesn't end there with cultural and mass events . yes , there is a place to go to the cinema. for example, some historical literature and so on. well, this is also useful. well, 100%, but it is necessary . well, in order to feel your unit. yes , you need to constantly communicate with people , you need to know

. well, what is their condition? for this purpose, monitoring is carried out. yes, there are more informal actions that are, as a matter of fact, they create the atmosphere of the unit. and this is very important regarding the special elements of preparation. as for the half, you don't get captured , there was a second rule. well, look at the first rule, everyone went through it and goes through it in their own way, and people react differently, i just, well, in short, for example, about my personal perspective. i can only talk about my case. well, i know. there are a lot of situations where people have a completely different reaction to

other consequences, and we are different. that's why there have already been moments when i was asked in the media, yes. and i said like cities. well how he how it really happened yes how it all unfolded there as it went she oh well it was perceived there by certain other other military personnel differently yes because some were more lucky some were less lucky so here it is about preparation well see preparing for war yes how we always trained soldiers yes there is one basic language yes it is moral readiness to kill and be killed these are the rules of the game you then accept them and well you start to understand well it seems nothing well nothing complicated at first glance but still it is always there the struggle of the natural self with the supernatural self, well, this is in a personal perspective, but

when you become a part of something bigger , a part of a unit, a platoon unit , against a battalion, a needle brigade, then that's when it takes place, that is, a military unit this is the only large living organism where everyone has to be in their place where every cog has to be correctly arranged well positioned and turned as needed so and then so then there is a moment of coherence then a moment of e-e balance so and then there is a moment of combat effectiveness and all other things. they simply pull themselves together and stand in their places. if the units have time to normally cultivate some kind of correct constructive atmosphere there, then everything is possible, well, in parallel with high combat training, but now we, well, the general trend in the country, we cannot, for example

to provide ourselves with combat training there, which we would like to provide as a must before the time of a large-scale invasion. when we can spend years training people to sharpen them and polish their skills and experience. on the run so, look for new, new ways of effectively solving problems, let's talk a little about the war , and we are waiting for the announced one, yes, and another offensive , yes, the russians. do you believe in it? well, if it happens , what will be the scale? and in what directions is it possible? well look at how i feel about it, yes. and why is he eating now ? well, there can be a lot of reasons. but again, how to properly feed a russian woman before the offensive

, prepare the offensive. yes, that is, i speak only for myself. yes, well, there is no difference. they prepare it there in a month, two, three , four, a week, i don't know when . a situation in which we should not constantly look back at the actions of the russians while planning our actions we must be concentrated and focused on our own actions yes well we should not sit there thinking with rabbits with a constant news feed yeah damn yeah yes-yes-yes-yes yes that was captured that was captured and that was repelled a a a when they advance oh damn, he will also tell me that there will be in a month , yes, and the cia says that in two we will be like that oh , just what are you doing, you need to prepare your forces, you need to change the way of thinking of citizens who have not yet

changed it, military training well, if a person, for example, still hesitates to serve him there or not , well, let him just finish some civilian courses there, although well, i am more in favor of letting a person simply register for the so and be ready just, well, at the right moment to be in the right place a place with the right people , or just go there in advance without waiting for a summons to join the armed forces or the national guard, by the way, we are recruiting people here is the azov brigade, the offensive guard , join the friends of the city offensive their plan will be assault assault battalions. yes, you are brigades. yes, that is, the concept of an assault unit is quite vague. yes, it is quite vague

. yes , there is a definition according to the state. assault yes, but conceptually, yes, there are two types of combat actions, there are defensive ones, and offensive ones, eh, that is that the new newly created brigades are newly formed there in the national guard, in the national police, eh, in the dpsu, and what is the general name of the guard, let us submit they are also there with a light hand, there in the media they are called assault units, yes, this is for ease of perception, but it is really a unit that is formed for offensive actions, but in what format, in what interaction, i cannot say . well, most likely, there will be close interaction between the armed forces and so further, there are also our own offensive forces, and this should be understood as a single system, yes. that is, the fact that these are different departments is, well, simply, two parallel directions of bureaucratic work, and this is absolutely normal, this is

how it has always been. there is simply a mobilization potential well, the units of the national guard. yes, we want to strengthen our units by recruiting more people, but first of all volunteers, because this is the moment where our approach is, how we, how we transport, for example , were staffed there all these years exclusively by volunteers or people who voluntarily volunteered there transfer to us, but it can also be extrapolated to another unit, why is it important because this is the first, this is a key moment, this is a decision, this is a person’s desire, oh, well, the same applies, for example, to people there and just of civilians is just a civilian person who has a voluntary desire to serve and protect the motherland . she is already in the base more motivated and ready to make greater sacrifices in her personal life, well, in terms of the time of her personal life. counterbalance, for example , to a person what kind of strength, strength, self-politicized, and by

force they try not to force, force to fight, it is not very, not quite right, it is necessary,