[000:00:00;00] what is vasyl's air in the winter, a project for smart and caring people in the evening, nayspresso every week saturday political club helps to understand the processes taking place in ukraine and the world vitaly portnikov, the host of espresso and invitations , experts based on facts give their assessment and forecast of the development of events, you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, see saturday political club every saturday at espresso we welcome this espresso thank you for being with us and supporting the ukrainian view of the world my name is anna valevska we continue the information and analytical marathon and start to inform from different areas of our regions in the lieutenant of the freedom battalion with us roman konon with mr. roman and let's start we congratulate you

good health glory to ukraine glory to the heroes many propaganda videos of various nature are appearing ukraine is strengthening this area with elite units. british intelligence reports about this. please tell me what is happening. what is the real situation ? the situation under bachmut is now extremely difficult. maybe the debt is simply destroying the city of bakhmut, it is destroying the settlements that are nearby in bakhmut, it is trying to take the city itself in the surroundings and any of its small advances are raised as huge huge there victories are not so eh the situation is really difficult for the enemy really we are extremely fast as an artilleryman and the freedom of the battalion. we are now on combat coordination, the guys who hold the positions of these from

the fourth brigade, the rapid response brigade and other options are firmly in their positions. we are talking about surrendering the city, the city is not coming. they hold the city, they stand, they make a devastating impression on all of them, it’s the fault of the dogs there . as far as i understand now, their shortcomings, the firemen were beaten into a pile, which was on mine in their last battle, uh , these are the remains of that cook, putin’s bunker grandfather , the katsap army is grinding its teeth , it has no great successes there, and lying down of these fighting jackals just in packs. unfortunately , there are also losses from our side. these guys who will always remain in our hearts as defenders will always be with us in our memory. these are the real titans of the real sons of the ukrainian nation and we are for them for everyone let's rebel and i hope. as soon as possible, we will knock out all this filth, the unclean and simply their inferiors, mr. roman, what is known from that side, apart from

the wagnerites, and they are also bringing some force there , how was the mix, there is a complete confusion, who what, like him and these prisoners of wagner, there are several of them units, there are frank prisoners with syphilis, those with speedositis, those who cannot be evacuated , they walk around, they mark them separately with three bandages that he is not subject to evacuation, and well, it is definitely cannon fodder and everything is there -e of the russian army, these cheapskates are fighting it's really more professional, it's much more difficult to fight with them, but all the same, there are moments of imperfection in them, although it's really very difficult to deal with them, and it's hard to understand how it can be if a person positions himself, well, let

it even be of the occupation army, but he is the opposition positions as an officer to stand and fight side by side from the ground with a prisoner or with whom she is with someone who is not subject to evacuation, this is a paradox . unfortunately, we, as a unit of the svoboda battalion, observed such pictures as they finish off their own so as not to carry him there no no to save or they are just afraid that it is possible to get infected with something from him, we are terrible things, the war is happening very now , it is terrible and those actions that we are observing are terrible things , unfortunately, we are in this period we are living, we are creating this history and we have to build this history for our children our descendants no longer see this, but lived in a free, strong, independent, flourishing

ukraine in their society , how is it considered honorable that they are different from us? you can feel it directly on the spot, there is a need for more munitions unequivocally, yes, you can say that there is an immediate shortage, you can’t say yes, but you definitely need more, you need more, you need newer ones, and finally, that uh, these agreements with our western partners , which i understand are that these weapons as it is possible to get guys who know how to use it and know what to do with it, uh, i'll tell you, mmm, we are with soldiers from the svoboda battalion. we are from the mortar battery of the battalion. i am convinced that those guys who are now joining the defense. we have professionals who know how to do what. at one point , all the guys need more shells, more

mines, more high-quality new mortars, artillery installations of aggressors, lng fire support - this is very important for our infantry without fire support, no matter how bold the approach , it will still suffer huge losses, therefore more shells, more installations and we will work roman general syrsky for the second time in six days arrived in bahmuta, what does this mean, or is it being decided right now that it is working, what is the strategy , support of the higher command is always important . shows that, in my opinion , there can be no surrender of the cities and the language now. bakhmut is a bridgehead for the future

ukrainian offensive and it is not possible to lose the city of bakhmut at the moment because well, in principle , we cannot lose the territory because the defense defense during the defense, unfortunately, i will repeat the losses, and they are less than when we start, we will start storming the city to push it back, and this storm will be mandatory , because we have to return the entire territory of our country. this is the minimum we have to do to return the entire territory. unfortunately, during the assault, the losses of the attacking side are greater, because the better and better we will defend now and defend bakhmut, the less losses await us in the future, what is left of the city at the moment bakhmut, what about the buildings, the streets, the people who remain there? the city of bakhmut is almost completely destroyed. there are buildings that

are completely destroyed to the foundation, but in principle 100%, the buildings are damaged in one way or another. unfortunately, there are still people in the city. who for one reason or another cannot leave for the latest information in bakhmut from five to 7,000 people, unfortunately, among these people there are children, among them there are elderly people who cannot leave, unfortunately, there are zhduns, unfortunately, the connection was interrupted by the novel conan lieutenant of the svoboda battalion, mr. roman, can't you hear us, continue, please, there are children with her, and how many children are there now, are there any approximate figures, and why are these people who did not have time to leave , or is there such a position, the parents must be 30, somewhere up to 40 children are in the city, hmm, the child is not she can make decisions for herself, her parents make decisions, why did her parents choose such

a path, well, it is unknown. but again, there are people who cannot leave anywhere, there are those who do not want to leave their hometown, where he was born , there are those who are waiting for many different aspects, but unfortunately, there are children and uh, bahmuti is not there, the entire infrastructure has been completely destroyed, there is no heating, no water supply, there is nothing, but our people are there, and we have to protect these people, too , to make sure that at least they survived in these specific realities and conditions roman , excuse me, you told how many of them are there? how do you communicate with them, or are there any specifics of your unit's communication with this continent of bakhmuti people? being from the freedom battalion, we have a constant

task not to communicate with dunas or anyone a knock out the katsapi knock out this bad thing that our unit coped with very well, uh, this relay, while we are on combat coordination, the fourth brigade of operational assignment in that direction and other units are also with dons. we tried absolutely not to cross paths because, well , nothing it's nothing to talk about, and they are actually hidden. he won't say that i'm waiting there, i'm waiting for russian peace, he 'll say one thing to your face and do another, so it's actually very difficult to comb them out. but i'm already convinced that they're there not overwhelming the number of the vast majority of people is now in bakhmut for some reason and, in principle, who lived in the ukrainian city of bakhmut - these are our people and a small proportion of some of these recruited katsaps, we are recruited by katsaps , they are actually not very many of them and they do not affect the processes on a very large scale how

much does the presence of civilian places complicate your work there, the presence of civilians in any case makes work very difficult because the katsaps katsaps do not pay attention to them, the katsaps just destroy destroy their city and the city's buildings the quarter of the population, the points that are next to bakhmute, absolutely do not pay attention to the fact that there may be someone there, or a pensioner , or an elderly person, or a child, or a mother, or a father. it is emphasized that our people and we are defending our land, so those who stayed there, if anyone hears, can see it, as soon as possible, in any available way, ask for volunteers, ask the military to leave, and this will really make it easier for us to recapture the city, because we will be convinced that if we repulse, this repulse will fly over the katsaps and it will not

affect our people. the last question is whether it is possible to leave there now. i assure you that our military will not refuse anyone to take him out of there, there are evacuation groups, and i know that we have evacuated more than one person from the svoboda battalion and tried to help in any way because once again our people are our ukrainian city and we are together with bakhmut bakhmut the fortress bakhmut is standing bakhmut is holding on we are doing our best give more weapons

thank you mr. roman roman konan lieutenant of the freedom battalion of the national guard of ukraine thank you for participating in our broadcast for the work on of the defense of ukraine natalya humenyuk is already with us spokeswoman head of the press center of the security and defense forces of the operational command south mrs. natalya congratulations to you kindergarten please tell us what the operational situation is in our in the southern direction, what has happened in the last day, please, and the situation remains stably difficult, but the good news is that it is still controlled by the defense forces , despite the fact that the enemy mainly continues shelling the civilian population on the right bank . they are trying to put pressure on the civilian population, in particular, realizing that the elimination of our the counter-battery work of their artillery positions leads to the fact that they cannot use full-fledged

artillery e mortars e-e rocket salvo fire system they began to use drones with spare drops on civilians. therefore, we call on the local population to be careful, to monitor the air behind the sky and not allow large groups to gather, as was the case the day before, when the enemy entered humanitarian aid points directed an unmanned aerial vehicle with harvesting elements. unfortunately, for the past day, there are uh, not in their results of enemy work, this is one dead person, more than 10 wounded, but we continue to work so that the enemy moves his positions

as far as possible from the left bank cut in order not to have the opportunity to reach our peaceful settlements ms. natalia, we talked today about this case of hitting a place where humanitarian aid was distributed with a political scientist from kherson and came to the conclusion that we should be very careful about such things and the organization of such things, are there any recommendations, well, probably it is probably not very safe to distribute humanitarian aid in the open air on the street now, what do you personally think about this matter, i ask how to distribute humanitarian aid to the local authorities and humanitarian organizations in order to properly organize it, to orphan the population, to destroy the services of their employees, and the work is organized in such a way as to avoid such gatherings of people, so that it is at those moments and times when there is no immediate threat. and in the event of a threat, it was the shelter

of all participants in the process is provided for, so we have taken appropriate measures , we are constantly working on this. as for the general situation , i want to say that it is necessary to take into account that there is a possibility to evacuate from those settlements that are directly under constant fire from the enemy, if there is such an opportunity , you should use the assistance provided by the administration to evacuate the suburbs of kherson . often it is combat drones that are launched. and this is exactly the same case when the enemy tries to change tactics, they cannot reach the appropriate firing positions based on

the left bank. since we are knocking them out from there they use a drone, and it was during the training of law enforcement officers on their functional duties that they were hit , unfortunately, that is why we are now developing a set of measures in order to avoid similar moments and strengthen air defense in this direction, well, in total , the territory of the region was shelled 69 times per day, this is the kherson uva reports that a total of 460 shells from mortars were fired by the artillery of tanks and uavs, the message says. and what do you associate the increase in uav activity with? uav activity is precisely based on the fact that they are forced to reduce the artillery fire because, firstly, we immediately hit the positions from where the egress came, and

secondly, we try to clear the strip that, from the left bank of the water cut , allows the placement of firing positions and harvest the population. we will continue to work so that the enemy will push back the next lines of defense, which they have already set up for themselves 20-30 km from the water cut natalya well, i am also opening the website of the kherson city council , they are looking for people for work, and here the head of the department of organizational work of document flow and control of management on issues of the revolutionary work of document flow and control personnel, well, the position salary is only uah 7,200. i think this is very little in the conditions of war, is there a shortage of e-e employees in the city military administration, well, in kherson , kherson region in those settlements that are subject to daily volumes. well, in general. what do you think? i think that people should still be paid more in

such conditions that work, maybe it's not up to you have a question but nevertheless, i am asking yes, the question is not entirely for me, but still, we are also working in the direction of civil -military cooperation regarding the fact that directly kherson e.e. and e. actions, respectively , the salary coefficient was increased and the fact that they currently have a certain deficit - this is obvious because even the population of kherson itself is now only 20%. nevertheless ensuring the work of state bodies it is happening systematically and those who can be involved in

this work are invited to zaporizhzhia. what do you know about the explosion there? zaporizhzhia is not our area of ​​responsibility at the moment, but we watched what really happened during the air raid. there were explosions there and work was carried out in the settlement. now the results are being clarified as soon as our colleagues can report. i think you will see the official information. it is already reported that two people died and one person was injured. there were two explosions. well, for now the information is being clarified for the truth. well, what do you associate with the decrease in the number of missile carriers in the black sea, they are decreasing, there were 5 the day before yesterday, yes , four yesterday, and now there are three, you said yes, now there are already four missile carriers, they are constantly maneuvering, constantly changing the number and e- to some extent, it is also aimed at

exhausting our surveillance system, our countermeasure system , because the engagement of missile carriers is sea-based missiles , it is clear that air defense is focused on them, since these are missiles for sure hits and, accordingly, they are used for specific purposes , uh, this means that anti-aircraft defense is particularly focused on them the increase in the number took place at the same time as the air alarm sounded in almost all regions of the south and east, this means that the enemy continues to look for new tactics. they are trying to raise planes and they are trying to confuse the

air defense system they use in including the same bullets that distract or detect air defense systems, that is why our work is now focused on analytics in order to calculate new tactics, two and the enemy and an effective countermeasure to it. a short documentary about the work of mykolaivvodokanal, it is also the first enterprise in the world, as journalists and authors say, that forcibly supplies homes with sea salt water . well, the main heroine of the film, valentina andriyeva, is the head of the company's laboratory tells what the salinity depends on. she says that if before the war they worked with two or three accidents every day, today there are up to 20 accidents in different areas. precisely because of the use of salty water from the estuary. well , we talked with vitaly, who he said was the head of the mykolaiv regional administration

. he said what happens, fresh water is served , what happens, and technically water, what does it depend on, and what do you think? how quickly can this issue be resolved, or is it resolved before the complete deoccupation of the right bank of kherson it can’t be. i’m begging you. actually, the complete de-occupation of the right bank of kherson greatly facilitated the work of utility workers , in particular, in the mykolaiv direction, the fact that certain transformations are taking place with water in the mykolaiv region . mykolaiv residents themselves joke that they even have a friend that the whole of their native land is already flowing because they are so much stronger that they and salt can be processed, if you are joking, but in reality, the work of local administration bodies and utility workers is focused on providing the population with the highest possible

quality plazas of civilization, even though the enemy continues its shelling, that's why we don't disclose the full scale of communal work, which we carry out as soon as there is an opportunity . mykolaiv residents will immediately feel , even just by opening the tap, that they were already taken care of . i will say that the authors of the film talk about the fact that the city drainage system is 800 km of pipes, a total of 2,000 km of pipelines are located in the city of mykolaiv, and in order to understand this, how far is it from mykolaiv to berlin, that is of course, by using salt water, which very quickly amortizes all these pipes, various emergency situations arise, so we ask that you understand accidents . vladyslav seleznyov is already with us, a military expert, a spokesman for the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine fc, congratulations to vladislav, glory to ukraine, also with us, an expert on

national problems security, congratulations, mr. taras . good day. let's start with the operational situation right now, the situation is difficult in bakhmut and the russians report that they have taken over there. well, that's how we understand it now important decisions are also made regarding the possibility of a guest counter-offensive by taras, well, actually, if we look strategically at this situation, then we must understand that it is an integral part of our preparation for counter-offensive operations, since it allows us to connect a sufficiently large number of the personnel and equipment of the russian aggressor at this point and using our potential using our capabilities well, let's say this is to maximally drain this resource of the russians which they could theoretically use in order to

carry out their own offensive operations or at least form their own offensive groups that could create problems for us in other directions. well, considering that the russians currently have, the farther they go , the more tangible problems with replenishing the personnel. considering that they, well, in in their strategy, they are motivated by the fact that they take in quantity and not in quality, and accordingly . well, if those losses are not incurred every day at will, they should be compensated , taking into account exactly such an approach. let's say this yes, in a live target. well, and partly in the technique, the russians are beginning to feel the further the further, the more so. if the problem is to find at least a sufficient amount of manpower for these meat assaults, in order to carry out, well, to be able to carry out further . if er-e combat operations in that intensity, that is in such a format to which they are actually used to, that's why actually this er-e this strategic importance er hmm of the bakhmut direction it actually allows us er-e to be more

confident that the russians will not have enough resources and not only to move forward in this direction but also to prepare for some other large-scale offensive operations on others at other points, yes, and accordingly it is obvious that our command and military-political leadership is trying to make maximum use of our presence now at this point, er, so much from a political point of view, as from a military strategic point of view, in order for the russians to suffer maximum losses , but at the same time to prevent er, large losses from our side, therefore, in principle, if this strategic task will be fulfilled and we will give the russians the opportunity to use a-ah a greater offensive resource that they could have if it was not from the bakhmut sharpened somewhere in another direction, then accordingly a-ah well, if it can be assumed that this task, at least

for us, at the current stage, for our military and political leadership, has been completed and, in principle, we did not give the russians the opportunity to supplement their offensive potential with the resource that is now tied in the direction of bakhmut vladyslav, in your opinion. well, from the military strategic point of view that tarasa spoke about, is it already done at the current moment to jump and destroy part of the personnel and equipment of the russians precisely under bakhmut , or is it appropriate to receive it in the future , even though it is remained in the semi-circle of the encirclement is now at the current moment , is the leadership of jesus ready, well , if necessary, to move away from bakhmut , after all, it is a war. i would like to draw the attention of our audience . it is not the case that any statement

by putin's army, the spokesman for the kremlin , etc. putin and his henchmen say lies, these lies i have come across since the 14th year and putin was surrounded in not a single word. likewise, i advise you to do the second thing regarding the actions of the ukrainian defense forces in the bakhmut region, there is no political component there there is only a purely military, rational solution, and it is not for nothing that the syrian general, who is in charge of the eastern f-class of the russian-ukrainian front , has visited bakhmut twice in the last few days, he acts absolutely rationally and based on the following considerations , on the one hand, that they are losing at least two days in the area of ​​bakhmut 500 of their soldiers and another 900 are wounded to such a degree that in the future they cannot perform combat tasks, we are talking about russian

poets on the other hand, but all the lobbyists the routes will be cut off by putin's soldiers, according to how the bakhmut garrison will not be able to continue resisting, the actions of the ukrainian troops will be absolutely rational, and due to the fact that it is not square meters or kilometers that are more important to us, but the lives of our soldiers, because the life and health of fire is the highest value for the ukrainian general staff in what way the ukrainian general staff will act , no one will tell you for sure right now. well, although there is information that can expose ukrainian servicemen to a deadly risk closed, we will learn everything after the fact, but the fact that our military is absolutely rational and in such a way as to cause as much damage as possible to putin's army on the one hand and on the other hand to protect the ukrainian personnel as much as possible for me this is obvious well, let's also talk about other directions about the south about melitopol yesterday gaulai and yevhen balytskyi , the head of the occupied part of the zaporizhzhia

region, as part of a quasi-terrorist organization, formally