[000:00:00;00] and my mr. oleg, that a special tribunal regarding mr. putin will be launched this year, and that all the necessary legal parameters will be determined there, which will ultimately allow organizing this tribunal. maybe organize , and we will see from now on, and a lot will depend on western partners from ukraine, and first of all the turn of the ukrainian army and the ukrainian military and now we are in the near east israeli political scientist and public figure mykhailo the flight with us will now appear so good evening good evening i will be in russian then okay i heard the accent is not ukrainian listen to gruntinsky, i have a georgian accent in everything, well, you can hardly speak georgian, i don’t understand anything at all except gamma job and

maybe there is something else. i see some i see non-jewish israel here i have a cheat sheet and a shmorgai written on it 9 saturdays in a row 1,000 israelis take to the streets to express their displeasure with the judicial reform , that's what i was taught in action that on saturdays , jews don't particularly like that- to make connections with religion is connected with the law of judaism , and here nine saturdays in a row, that is, hell, can explain in two words to a ukrainian listener what is happening, why the judicial reform is not liked by many israelis, that they do not even celebrate saturday , they do not celebrate shabbat. well, first of all, i want

to reassure you from religious they go to these rallies after the sabbath ends , that is, i say, the first star appears, and after that, the rallies begin, first of all, secondly, i, and the very fact that the jews are not satisfied with saturday 9 it's completely jewish, i would say that it's part of our ukrainian character, but in fact the situation is far from funny. it's not enough because , in our society, a big conflict has arisen over one main question: who should appoint judges ? do the judges have the right to overturn the decisions of the deputies, click on it, and you, the deputies of our parliament, eh, the current coalition is ugly, which is standing for the 6th time, benemen, there is no oniagu.

it is somewhat doubtful that this is why he carries cargo in the soviet channel . the same can be said about aby neamine netoniagu, who has been stuck in israeli politics for several decades. somewhere around half of the population, inspire them to tolerate me, blow him, er, today , they are in a coalition with the very far-right, i even said religious partners, er , so these partners, er, believe that er, the court in israel, it behaves too independently. in our country, everything is complicated by the fact that there is no constitution in israel, so the courts have the opportunity to interpret laws quite broadly . uh, this big crisis has arisen, uh, it's just lost because there's nothing against it, there's no one, uh

, three criminal cases have been opened a few years ago, and they're still pending in the supreme constitutional court, which we have is called rich well, how do you understand, many people believe that a person under investigation does not have the right to engage in legal reform, he is in a very big conflict of interests, and many hundreds of thousands of people believe that this is a situation with a terrible loss of democratic character of our state, but why do the right-wing politicians of the orthodox believe that well, why is it not clear to yahu? it was somehow oppressive, but why are these a-a yes, right-wing politicians don't like what they don't like. well, the judges are sitting there, they are there because of something. i

would understand if, for example, they were opposed , they would change, well, some, if the central authorities said oh now people who study the torah will go to the army, i understand it here. here i understand why , uh, various raps would not oppose it, i understand it. and here they don’t have chebolit. i don’t understand what hurts and the rest of him, how would uh, he is an employee of the coalition you understand and understand very well i have to tell you about the israeli reality. you have touched on this nerve, the main nerve of israeli politics. should orthodox students and students study in religious schools called eshegot and should they serve in the army or should they study ? in religious institutions, it frees them from the mandatory

reason to call for this, too, in israel , there are several different opinions on the one hand , the politicians who represent these regional ones in the parliament believe that teaching should be equated to serving in the army and the higher court of justice several times already, that is, our supreme court several times decided that religious students should be drafted into the army on an equal basis with non-religious ones. e principle of equality before the law e-e last time the court made this decision in 2018 and e-e gave the government time e to adopt until 2023

, that is, within five years new law eh, it's over and the government must present eh some better eh some new formula the court of justice, then the court will again er-er sign a decision er about what er-er religion should be invoked and a part of this reform that we will be doing today would not be passed, not about er-er with its partners wants to lead says that even if the court recognizes any a non-constitutional law , the parliament will have the opportunity by a simple majority of 60-61 votes to overturn the court's decision, this is actually a very interesting theoretical question, even yes, how should the separation of power and a democratic society be arranged

, but we will not go that far in any case, i explained to you why the right-wing, in particular, it is religious deputies who are very afraid of this freedom and independence of the court, there is a second reason, this is the first reason, and the second is the most pure, both of which are many right-wing politicians have been hiding in the supreme court of justice since 2005. i will remind you that in 2005 , prime minister orel sharon stood in the corner of israel, and he came up with the so -called project a. demarcation, he withdrew israeli settlers, israeli military units from the gaza strip, the happiness of the gaza strip, eh, do you think that this can advance us to some kind of agreement with the palestinians, eh

, make our borders more secure , then about 10,000 settlers were evicted, and eh then the supreme court of justice considered that this was not a legal decision and did not protect the rights of our settlers, which it considers all their lines to be a violation of basic human rights today if you ask a representative of the right-wing camp in israel why does he advocate reform he and many of them will remember the event of 2005 and say that the court in israel only represents the interests of the white secular population in quotes, but in no case the religious and , let's say, conservative

it's confusing, it's confusing, and it's not only because, uh, i'm repeating it, it's going to happen to me , uh, he has a conflict of interests. he was forbidden to occupy his position, we have started this, i repeat , from a situation in which there is no rigid construction of laws , in ukraine there is a constitution, that is, it is like a football match. years, it is arranged approximately like this, and i assume that until the constitution is drawn up, that is, in laws that are clear how they are adopted, it is clear how they can be canceled , and which cannot be canceled by a simple majority until then, i guess a serious internal crisis, which, as you probably

understand , is exacerbated by social networks, situations when anyone who became a journalist can spread fake news and it is very difficult today to distinguish where is the truth and where is the lie with it tables will be by the way, of course, not only israel, but also other democratic countries and the united states and the netherlands and france, and literally , such a dotted line. that in britain there is no constitution why in israel there is no constitution what what prevented ben-gurion or there i don't know who would think about it then back in the late 1940s ben-gurion at that moment believed that the majority of israeli jews were

borders and to accept the constitution at a time when only about 600,000 jews lived in israel out of a population of almost 10 million would be dishonest, he believed that it should be adopted at a later stage, that is, when more jews will come to israel конституции yes, until now, there is a committee called the commission for work on the constitution, only you are currently there. yes, these are parts of the future constitution. let's take, for example, the basic law passed on the activities of the parliament for the past uh , 64 years. 236 years of the existence of the constitution, it was amended and only

27 amendments were made, in my opinion, and less than 30 amendments . just as in other countries, in principle, ingenuity is its changeability. you know a few more countries about which it is possible to say the same thing, that all their troubles and their aggression arise precisely from this fact that politicians do not change, but sell the system for yourself and here, all the time is good, good, that's an expression in hebrew that says that politicians and diapers need to be changed often, regularly, for the same reason. what is happening in israel, what is happening in the jewish state , and i am interested in it. i like to watch it. it is really

enough for the world, the exotic history of the emergence of the state of israel. just yesterday i read 48-47 46th year and so on, wars and so on. and in general, it’s a nice country, and that’s all, and now i’ll answer your question with you. this is what i’ll definitely do, and i’ll start from the end. why , because i have some questions . march in poland begins

screening of the adaptation of the ukrainian tv series servant of the people in the polish version , the head of state will be played by actor ignatius kochnogo, played by actor marcin iknar, what do you think, what do you think, will the poles want to vote for the actor? when valens lost the elections, kwasniewski won, it was the mid-90s and everyone was afraid that kwasniewski, since he was left-wing and lance was right-wing, everyone was afraid that kwasniewski would come now. and he was at the elections then , just describing for ukrainians what was happening not only for ukrainians. and then they were afraid that kwasniewski would return the wagon to socialism again. well, because everyone suspected that nothing of the sort happened. somehow nevsky was very powerful and in poland to nato to the european union. and in general, a great friend of ukrainians to the ukrainian

establishment of the ukrainian people, that's why i i think that someone will be voted for there. but if this is a successful format, why not? i think that there will be many countries that will buy it and make the president richer. there will be people who will criticize him for it. there will be people who are in favor of it. they will praise him, and everything will be fine, that is, as always in ukraine, what is happening, what do you think about decentralization or not? the result depends on the mentality of the people. i especially doubt that russia will know what to do with it, mr. ivan. so i can tell you that all these processes of such reforms take a very long time, and if you delay

, you risk stretching this story even longer . in 1999 or 2000, i was in moscow and the bbc asked me to come to the office of the russian service, where i then worked in both the ukrainian and russian and to talk about the appearance of putin as president, it was just the night when he was elected, when the votes were counted , i then popped out such a thought and word he can now repeat it, it belongs to me, it belongs to all people who have read more than two books there, when do you start some reforms are self-governing decentralized here and you are exposed to not a huge number of problems , moreover, there are a lot of dissatisfied people here, and now there is a war in ukraine, now all of them think about it, but there is criticism and but it is bad for me it didn't work out in western ukraine, yes, in the east, yes, in the south, yes, in the north

. in short, all this, but this is training, and the nation begins to learn and gradually comes to conclusions, cutting off various problems of the campaign of the reformist play, getting used to finding arguments in your favor, and your opponent on your benefits and so on. when you have such a hothouse state of affairs, and in russia a hothouse state of things, the longer you stay, but under putin they already have a hothouse for 20 years, 23 years, you sit quietly, we will think for you, i i have a hard time imagining how to tell them now. no, now putin

will not think about you , and you should elect the mayor of omsk if you live in omsk, trust him and, together with him, make transformations useful for the residents of omsk. they still have that body that allows you to think about what surrounds you and not rely on the central or local government, but here i don't know, so i don't think that this is, if such a thing is absolutely inherent in russians , germans, it was also inherent in the 33rd 45 each years of china still inherent yes to cuba still inherent in france not inherent in finland not inherent in ukrainians semi-inherent maybe after the war it will no longer be inherent in short not

a simple story at all not easy it was the birthday of mikhail gorbachev who died last year in august he was the first and only president of the ussr in the west is considered a harbinger change , but the post-soviet countries are not liked in ukraine, it is quite clear that he actually recognized the annexation of crimea, even though they say that it was a full-scale war, he was upset, what do you think about the role of gorbachev, you know the movement of people's ukraine, which if it was one of these institutions that started it, which was such a barrier that opened on the road to independence, the movement appeared when ukrainian artists met with gorbachev in the presence of communists from the supreme ukrainian and convinced gorbachev to allow , moreover, it was called that people's movement of ukraine for perestroika, it was called not

called for independence. that's when they decided , since gorbachev was there, they said, well, don't touch these national artists, poets , writers, whom they already approached dissidents who were then released from the camps , and this is exactly what started this process . began to fight against the monopoly, all this was done by gorbachev and we have to thank him. i believe that everyone has

the balts and the ukrainians and moldovans are countries that took advantage to a greater extent than the balts as wiki less than georgians, moldovans, ukrainians, but they still look in the other direction of democracy, there are countries that did not take advantage of it, and belarus there or some central asian republics did not take advantage of it either, but gorbachev is undoubtedly a great peacemaker, despite the fact that baku was also and will come to baku, i am personally a smuggler transported the films then still in films . it was all films to europe of baku events and baku blood of azerbaijani blood when the soviet troops entered and practically crushed a huge number of a-a azerbaijanis and we can also remember georgians

and the events of april and so on. blood was also spilled, but the amount is still the same . if at that time modern putin had seen these changes in front of him, then i think that all russians and middle asians and balts and so on and so forth would still be covered in blood. therefore, for me, gorbachev is an important person, there were mistakes, he was not god, he did not make mistakes. you yourself know who jesus will be . well, you can count, but no more than on the fingers of one or two hands, and all living people have made mistakes , so gorbachev made mistakes 74 years since the birthday of volodymyr ivasyuk it means ivasyuk's girlfriend was the daughter of a kgb colonel - the only one who believed in suicide in the 15th year the lviv prosecutor's office said that they have

indisputable evidence of involvement in the murder of the composer by the soviet special services, but the answer is still not there is no reason why the special services could have killed him the soviet special services could have killed him for anything for anything i read i read the documents. i don't remember. is it the lviv prosecutor's office or the central prosecutor's office? i read the materials , they convinced me. i don't believe it. as a rule, i don't believe it when they say that a famous person dies just like that, more precisely, not just like that, well, this is the psychology of humanity, if a prominent person dies not in a fight, if a public person dies not in a fight, then society does not want to believe in it. if you are a hero, then you definitely have to die in a fight, you have to be a hero until

the end and death take yours as heroic in some way, i was very young, i don't remember the name of the soviet film, still black and white, some partisans, they were going somewhere , something, somewhere inside the territory controlled by the germans during the second world war, and for something to explode there. story and there, too, i was struck by everything, and there, during this march, during this difficult hit from the front, one of the heroes dies of a heart attack, and i couldn’t believe it , because soldiers on the front die from bullets , from explosions, they die they don't die heroically. i remember when i was little. i don't remember how old i was. well

, i was a junior or middle school student. i was absolutely shocked at the time. how is it possible during the war? it's the same here, but in this case, i i never believe that everyone is famous known, all public people die precisely because there is some evil kuchma, the kgb, there is someone else, someone else, someone else, someone else, the fsb of russia , and so on. you have to be very convincing, but when i read many years ago , there were at least 10 to volodymyr ivasyuk, and i am very meticulous, page after page, everything, there really is a system of evidence for me, i am not a lawyer, so i can repeat it again, i did not find anything to complain about, so what can i tell you?

if he had a daughter, he had a daughter to be more precise his girlfriend is the daughter of the colonel of the mdb, the devil knows whether the colonel of the dbr can organize this death . does he have enough opportunities to subjugate people to authority and so on and so on? very often i want to say i really want to say i won't name any names now, but i was very skeptical in many cases that this one died because of this and this one because of this and this one because of this and well, that's my logic, compiler the well-known dictionary, volodymyr once recorded a strange muscovite folk song, a woman promises to kill her husband. his bones, cook jello from the liver, a pie from the brain, soup , are our northeastern neighbors

really man-eaters ? i don't know andruphagi, that is, cannibals. you see, i don't, i don't, i don't trust herodotus, because they very often described events that were 100 years away from them, and then two and a half thousand years passed after them, it's very difficult, it takes a lot i don’t know the sources, there are a lot of convincing sources, but i think that all mankind went through some such periods of cannibalism in one way or another. i don’t know what happened on the territory of ukraine 25,000 years ago. i don’t know, i won’t say. but i think that some scientists can at least guess, but well i was once in indonesia. they still eat people on some islands

. i don't know if they ate people in muscovy. i'm not a specialist. now for the dollar 9:38-39 uah is 2-3 uah less than in a week. why? why ? how long will it last because of the imf prize or the seasonal u why do you save savings? i save savings. if i have savings, i am not sure what they are, but i know for sure that it is necessary to save them in dollars so that the dollar is still the strongest currency. why did this happen? i think that some huge money just came to ukraine and it always happens when there is another tranche where several billions come to the ukrainian, to ukraine or anywhere , then the expansion of this money begins immediately. maybe on bankivska to the banks and , accordingly, the pressure of the dollar on the hryvnia and

the hryvnia becomes stronger. well, here i am not an expert if i knew what the dollar and the hryvnia would look like in a month, two or three, i wouldn't be sitting here , or rather, i was already sitting here, because i love my profession, but i would go to work either in a rolls-royce or by helicopter, that's actually all that i i can tell you about this, i'm finished, i'm coming to the end of my program, unfortunately, i hope my colleagues will transfer the rest of the questions to me for tomorrow, there are three left, i hope that tomorrow i will try to answer these three remaining questions for today. to ukraine and the world mrs. iryna please, thank you, mr. mykola, and have a good, most importantly, peaceful evening , rest until