[000:00:00;00] well, in yesterday's address he said that bakhmut gives one of the greatest results of the entire war, the american institute for the study of war in its current report notes that the city is not of fundamental importance either operationally or strategically, but ukraine's struggle for bakhmut has become strategically important due to the current composition of russian forces. deployed in this area, the battle of bakhmut could actually seriously undermine the best forces of the wagner pvk, depriving russia of several of its most effective shock units, which are the hardest to replace analysts of the institute of war studies note that the ukrainian military describes the situation around bahmut this is how the enemy's multiple numerical advantage and a constant wave of attacks by russian units report from bahmut we will show you further the multiple numerical advantage and constant waves of assaults by russian units

this is how they describe the situation around bahmut ukrainian defenders defending that line , volodymyr and yury, fighters of the 30th brigade of the armed forces of ukraine , their unit, among others, restrains the pressure of russian troops from the northern flank despite the complexity of the situation, these soldiers do not lose their sense of humor, they show their shrapnel-torn car with which they left the battle, the unlucky one was parked in the wrong place by the paraskovites and the enemy tank, he issued us a small fine for the time being, the car is not combat-ready, compared to the rest of the fun, volodymyr confesses little russian troops do not abandon the goal bahmut's entourage throws everything and everyone into the battle for this, well , mostly small groups of 6-8 people conduct reconnaissance by battle, after that the enemy

inflicts damage on the artillery with mortars with grenade launchers and sends a frontal group of 6-8 people there, another one follows it. it is necessary that if the first group rests and immediately reinforces the next one, and so on until they accomplish their goal, that is, their human resources are not limited in this regard, because there is so intense that from the shooting machine guns start to wedge in some cases the ratio of the advancing russian military to the defending ukrainians was 12:1, the crowd comes out and from three sides they walk in the middle in the middle of the tip to repel attention to them, and in the main event of the resolution on the sides, all the last ones well, it turns out that there is a very large influx of weapons that just shoot a wedge , what is there that shoots, well, it’s fixed, grab, shoot , shoot, that’s the call, what are you doing? that’s right, from such

frontal attacks, russian troops suffer heavy losses volodymyr and yuriy assure that the ukrainian defenders will hold on to the last, what is difficult for us, but there is a task , there are boundaries, and we will keep them. as long as we have the resources of human strength, we will keep the boundaries that have been determined for us, but they admit that at home, a personnel bath accumulates and it all affects people. they have very little time for rest and recovery, that is, basically , if they do not repulse an assault, then this is some kind of minimal sleep. there are some needs to bring equipment weapons into combat mode again, and they still ask for more artillery support if there is a sufficient amount of ammunition for artillery, if there are enough artillery systems, then you can hold the lines for a very long time, meanwhile, the institute for the study of war

came to the conclusion that the armed forces of ukraine are exhausting the russian troops in bakhmut, creating favorable conditions for the counter offensive, it seems to me that the question now is not to repel them, but to stop them at a certain point, to drain their forces as much as possible so that the enemy loses their offensive potential, and then when there will be some tactical pause, i think that there will be actions from our direction of some kind while we were writing interviews with these soldiers, they were informed by radio that the russian units went on an assault again, volodymyr and yuriy are waiting for an order to return to the front line to support their own and prevent a breakthrough andriy kozakov vasyl martyshchenko oleksiy we have two victims for radio freedom well, today another loss occurred in the direction of bakhmut, a ukrainian

serviceman dmytro kotsyubailo was called da vinci. noted that dmytro kotsyubaylo has been defending the independence of ukraine since 2014 and was one of the youngest heroes of ukraine, where he led a separate mechanized battalion of the da vinci wolf as part of the 67th separate mechanized brigades, you can see him in the photo now, our condolences to his relatives and brothers, well, what is happening in the bakhmut direction, how has the situation changed there in the last day , now we will talk about it , a fighter of the freedom battalion of the national guard of ukraine, yaroslav lysenko , yaroslav, is joining our broadcast. good evening good evening studio good evening, viewers of yaroslav, how has the situation changed in the last day, that it has changed radically, yesterday we showed the map to our

viewers and it looked like bakhmut actually surrounded on three sides. what is there today? well, bakhmut is there now. well, they have been surrounded from the east, from the side of the border , by ticks, which are also problems. the enemy has almost reached the road that leads to kostiantynivka . well, the other thing that helps us fight the enemy is the road that remained the only one. asphalt road on the chrome road is also now under fire, at the moment today the guys were driving them a little to the red mountain so that the road that leads to the ravine , respectively, through the chrome road, enters bakhmut was working, but at the moment we we use all the roads that can help in safety and bahmut and e so that he does not hide ukrainian and since the weather does not allow us to do this so far, it is all very complicated, we already had a similar

situation in our battalion when we got we harrowed to severodonetsk and rubizhne in a semi-circle then it was still complicated that we had to cross the river but at least we could get to lysychansk because it was dry now everything is heavy in the mud eh ammunition we need crazy why because well you saw and other speakers already told that an incredible amount of even the same cartridges is wasted , you can’t get them on foot, you have to bring them there because there are really limitations in manpower, the body does not have armored vehicles, they are just as heavy, but the infantry goes wave after wave and just when 20 horns of the guys who are currently in the trenches are being used there in an hour and a half of battle and there is nothing else to let them down, well, this means that we can

lose positions, so the main thing for us now is to hold on to the road of life that leads to bahmut through chrome and thereby provide the civilian population with water and food and, accordingly, with ammunition for the fighters who are now in the very place, at least its er-e zabahmut, this is not only a reminder of the battle for the place itself, this is also the battles for the outskirts of bakhmut, this is also the battles for e for the red mountain for the berry fields for all those small villages that, unfortunately, have already been erased because well, we really stood to the end to prevent the enemy from getting to the bahmut , which during this time became the iconic content of the fortress of yaroslavl and please tell me from that you described the situation is really difficult and you say that now the task there is to defend the road and that it remains free to

deliver food and water to civilians in particular . what the military is saying about this well, we know that our leadership has a clear position that bakhmut should stay and defend him to the end, of course , when we will really understand that the paths are cut and there is no point in staying in the city, it is possible that there will be a command to retreat to the prepared positions that are everywhere around bahmut, but on the other hand, when we let the enemy into a large multi-story building , i think we will still have to knock him out from there, which means that we will use, well, more intellectual but eastern ones similar to the enemy e-e techniques , that is, artillery preparation for bombing and so on and so on and all this will lead to the fact that

the bakhmut will not exist like the marines, therefore at the present moment if we have the strength they are uh, and physical , moral and psychological, and we are equipped with weapons, we need to get the guy until the last possible moment , because we protect our brothers from all units and want them to live for ukraine and not die under the bahmut, that's why when i say that if there is any possibility it is rational and reasonable to defend bakhmut. i think that bakhmut should remain ukrainian and he should be kept because he will have to be fought off anyway, there will also be losses. maybe even more than now about his defense . i recently and recently in this studio spoke with military experts and representatives of the parliamentary defense and intelligence committee, and the thesis

was that sooner or later, and at this stage, the city will have to be left. but what can you say? well, as for bahmut himself, take out a contingent of guys who are defending him from the east from all other sides, uh, basically, these are the battles that are currently taking place in the private sector, which is confirmed by your video review, then this it is possible and i think that it will be possible for a few days, everything must be looked at according to the circumstances, listen to the sergeant-lieutenant squad, which is now with the boys directly on the front lines or on the ksp located in the nearest villages. i think they are all reporting on the situation, what forces are surrounding them. well, no our enemy is also surrounded and led. and we are already making sound decisions on the spot, because we understand that we must first save the city of bakhmut, which has already become a symbolic fortress city for us, but

it is more important to save the personnel, save those the defenders of the heroes who are now in this hell of the russian army write that they are five times greater than the losses of the ukrainian side, but how serious are the losses of the ukrainian side, and you probably also read the news about the fact that today it became known about the death of a fighter with the call sign da vinci it just happened somewhere in the area of ​​bakhmut. maybe you even knew him, what can you say about it? well, remember dmitry, he is indeed a hero whom we knew, fought with and met more than once, because our battalion since the 14th year, a battalion in the composition of the carpathian sich began to fight in the donetsk direction. pisky vodyane, donetsk airport, of course. we are familiar

with each other. this is a huge loss for us . and if necessary, we will stand there until the end. but, well, we must think about how to continue living in this country, how to develop it, so to all the guys who are now on the front lines, sitting in the trenches, i want to say that they beat the enemy without pity and took care of each other i wish everyone to return from bangut alive and unharmed , yaroslav, thank you very much. take care of yourself and tune in to our broadcast periodically. people per day can enter the stabilization center from one to ten patients, says the military

correspondent of radio svoboda maryan kushnir, who is currently working literally on the front line . watch his report lviv the situation is not typical or classic, i.e. they are there or not . that is, we work more during the day, then we work more at night , depending on the workload of the wounded , mainly firearms, firearms and explosive mines, or severed limbs. well, here every day, someone saves himself like this just as if the case was just ready because it

was severe, he suffered a severe injury, and this severe combined injury, two shoulders, uh , the rule of the lung, the left thigh, and we have the rule of genes through the left thigh through, well, that is, he lost blood, he lost blood, he lost a lot of blood, well, as a rule, fill in memorable cases extraordinary, that is, where there are injuries incompatible with life, that is, torn off heads, partially er, in torn, torn, cut main vessels, some kind of rough, where you have no opportunity to help that 300 years ago or to a patient well , that's how we remembered it, and that's how most of us remember all the cases that all people are individual, some are cheerful, some are brave, some simply

sympathize with something, and so on. well, as a rule, we we remember almost all cases, we can remember them despite the fact that there are a lot of them, we show our tongue quickly, well, everything as soon as possible to provide help, there is nothing else to think about that it is too early, or something else, no one thinks about what if she could do a little smaller and faster to send it, more qualified help was provided, i'm very worried if i suddenly do something wrong, but i'm worried that everything will be right , do it this way and you need more excitement

. the documents will now be handed over , i'll remind you if you look at us on the internet like this broadcast the youtube algorithm works in this way what the more likes the more people will see our work support us in this way well we continue to monitor the situation in the city of bakhmut bakhmut wants is not strategically important for russia but attempts to capture it is the only possibility to demonstrate at least some results on the battlefield, this is what the spokesperson of the us state department, net-price, said today about how the events surrounding bakhmut and the bakhmut direction may develop in the future, this is what we are talking about let's talk further, the head of the ukrainian center for security and cooperation, serhiy kuzan, serhiy, good evening, we have actually been hearing for several weeks, maybe even months in a row, that bakhmut is not strategic, it is strategically important for

russia, and what strategic importance does bakhmut have for ukraine? it's easy to understand , including the logic of the ukrainian political and military leadership, we know that the president's office announced yesterday that ukraine had decided to defend bakhmut - this is strikingly different from the way the ukrainian side behaved during the defense of severodonetsk and lysychansk, when the decision was made to withdraw , what if the reason lies in this, well , it must be understood that bakhmut is integrated into a single system, so to speak, of a fortified district , which includes the city of bakhmut and siversk directly uh, in the north and in the past, that is , and here is this entire fortified area. by the way, where is it located in the area of, for example, the temporary ravine , there is a vesifier there, our prepared positions are occupied from which of which

artillery bombardment eh to eh well. actually, speaking of the enemy, it is therefore very important to keep it as long as possible, that is, while this fortified area fulfills its function until that time. we are like this, these are the overwhelming forces of the enemy, and the ratio of the inflicted losses to our losses is optimal, and they were also voiced by the secretary of the nsdc danilov - this is one to seven, this is a huge , huge ratio, well, that is, some western analysts voice one to five i asked in different areas, the figures are quite different, but until then, of course, it makes sense to hold bakhmut . and, as a matter of fact, to grind the advancing enemy and let's see, for example, their concentration of efforts is reduced to one to

this bakhmut district, and wherever and there they cannot push through our defense well, that means that this means that bakhmut has already fulfilled its main purpose. that is , the russians have concentrated their forces there, and we are already putting thousands and thousands of their fighters and hundreds of units of their equipment there, you know. yesterday, at least, this version was voiced to the american institute for the study of war that the goal of the russian army, and in particular the so-called wagnerites, is to capture bakhmut as much as to weaken the ukrainian forces. to what extent do you share this thesis and this version, to what extent does it have the right to exist here, of course, the russians are trying to issue exactly such a version that they say, er, they are withdrawing our forces, and this is true. bakhmut is shifting our reserves, but they are always weakening us in defensive

battles, er, because the russians are currently spending in times more technical personnel well, here the numbers speak for themselves, the numbers speak for themselves, and that is why this version is, of course , well, if it does not stand up to criticism, it is another matter whether it would be possible to destroy even more russians specifically under bakhmut, it was possible, but for this we need of course, there are more western weapons. that is, so that we understand, we still have not reached parity in the number of, for example , the same artillery shells, that is, the russians fire at us significantly more intensively, many times more intensively, and we respond to them by the number of artillery and, in general, the number of ammunition equipment. that is, of course, we need more weapons in order to carry out defense more effectively. but here

, in general, the logic remains constant , that is, our defense forces are exhausting russia. well , in fact, they do not command its offensive potential, but yesterday, too, literally it seems to me that cnn, if i am not mistaken, or the wall street journal , an american publication, reported that they refer to a conversation with a ukrainian military officer that from 12:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. russian or wagnerian units can to attack one trench, that is, the conversation about what we are doing here is very slow on the part of the russian side, and you said that there is a lack of weapons, there is a lack of ammunition, and this does not allow the ukrainian side to somehow turn the situation in its favor, and what is the global problem , the whole world is watching how events are unfolding in a small town in donetsk region, bakhmut , and it is so difficult to strengthen the ukrainian army, so what is the question, what is the problem

, well, of course, this is a global global issue, but this is one issue of bakhmut or some individual separately eh of a separate section of the front, that is, there is a question of the availability of weapons in general , the number of weapons and the amount of ammunition for it, and this is a question that will not be resolved in the near future, you have already seen the statements of european leaders , american leaders eh and about that that new factories will be opened, production will be increased, but of course we are interested in the situation here and now . manage a smaller amount of resources, but much, much more effectively, and this, of course, is the intention of our command. that is, we see the difference

in the approach to war between the russians and ours, when the main value for us is undoubtedly people. that is, they are trained fighters who have experience. our main capital, and for the russians, it is the value of some other hundreds of meters there or a few kilometers and some date by which you need to set a deadline and capture this or that territory, and for this they do not count on the number of losses with people and we are really like that we can see that these waves have shaken human attacks in order to physically exhaust our positions with their corpses, that is, our defenders, and here, of course , this cruel, inhuman tactic was effective, precisely to the private army, which

sends a gunner under the threat of being shot people in order for them to actually open our fire positions by themselves and it is thanks to this inhumane tactic that the russians have a certain advance under bakhmut, but if you take away this advantage , uh, actually in the number of manpower of course, their effectiveness will immediately drop. well, it seems to me that no one is going to take away this advantage of the russian army. recently, there were data from german intelligence that if putin needs it, we can mobilize a million people, well, that is, there is such a human potential . let's put it this way. the potential exists, but to realize this potential today in the russian federation has no possibility , that is, it is one thing that they can really bring this million people to the mobilization points by hand, but it is another thing that the mobilization capabilities

today are somewhere in the region of 100,150,170,000 people, and this must be laid down for two or three months. that is, this means that only such a number of people can be placed on educational and training bases and pass. although some course of elementary training and provided with individual weapons and other individual equipment, in addition , there is, of course, a transfer process and the staffing of already front -line units, yes. here, the russians have much less logistics than their boast about one million ago. yes, yes. our defense forces really destroy the russians much faster than they have time to mobilize and replenish their ranks while returning to bakhmut, volodymyr zelenskyi gave a recent interview to the american publication sinan. he said that the surrender of bakhmut would open the way for the occupiers to key cities in the east of ukraine, in particular,

russian troops, if they occupied bakhmut , they would then we went to kramatorsk, we could go to slovyansk, says zelenskyi, and this would open the way for russians to buy other cities in the donetsk direction, but i don't know if you share such forecasts because, for example yesterday, in their report, the institute for the study of war, which has already been mentioned a lot, said that the nobility is opening up, but the resources to storm kostiantynivka or sloviansk are unlikely to be there. what do you say? we need to understand that the russians have no other way out than to advance. they face very clear political tasks, and as life has shown, they do not count their losses and are ready to simply use and put their entire personnel just to fulfill political

the whims of the kremlin, and they are really tightening their deadlines, that is, by the beginning of spring, they should have already reached the administrative borders of donetsk and luhansk regions, that is, they did not cope with this task, and moreover, they were not even able to take a single city, well, what kind of city at least they could er, brag and announce in the kremlin, that is, bakhmut . there is still provision that has not been cut, so it is really a question of survival for shoigu and the people who were given this resource of newly mobilized people, and they gave enough it is obvious in the kremlin that they will actually go to the administrative borders of the donetsk luhansk region, that is, they will not be able to cope with this task, and we are seeing more and more sharp criticism from the side of the length of which was actually pushed away from the leadership in this direction, and gerasimova is increasingly criticizing soyga and proving their ineffectiveness. well

, that is true in principle, of course, i could be wrong. but it seems to me that the russian army no longer defines any terms and deadlines for itself , war has become a russian everyday life. that's why here it is unlikely that there will be any symbolic dates by which they will receive the task of capturing this or that city without a doubt. our defense forces are breaking all the plans of the enemy, that is, absolutely all their plans during the last, or at least the last six months, were constantly shifted and broken thanks to our defenders. but at the same time of course, putin is thinking about his political future, and it is he who sets the next deadlines according to which he will evaluate the effectiveness of this or that leadership, that is, now the leadership of this occupation operation belongs to the old

to the apparatchiks and military bureaucrats, this is minister shoigu and, of course, commander gerasimov, thank you very much for your comment , serhiy kuzan, head of the ukrainian center for security and cooperation, a military expert was on radio liberty, thank you, radio liberty will monitor the situation in bakhmut and also the story surrounding the ukrainian prisoner of war who was apparently shot in donetsk region. how will this story end? in order not to miss anything, subscribe to svoboda channel and radio in social networks, to pages in instagram, telegram, facebook, twitter and facebook in viber and also on two channels on youtube radio svoboda and radio svoboda ukraine ah subscribe with your questions, lines , comments, remarks you can always leave in the chat under the broadcast, we read everything and will respond to them as quickly as possible, we will continue work for you installation on the website of radio freedom well,