[000:00:00;00] there are us. and there is also one of the studies that says that ukraine, which is in the ranking of countries that, for any normal, even cool initiative, will definitely find something that makes it possible to bypass this initiative, what is the point of a little scheme, and we are the leaders, i'm just i don't remember what it's called, what this research was called, but if it's interesting, i'll find it. i think it's a very good initiative, because the primary goal is to give those people the opportunity to move quickly and without obstacles. who need to bring aid to ukraine, but there is always distortion, there is always a certain proportion of those who are absolutely normal and use the opportunity for abnormal purposes, yes . is it possible, for example, for anti-corruption bodies or law enforcement agencies to check everyone ? i know personally among my colleagues, we talked at

one of the last ones, but there are those to whom the law enforcement agencies have already sent inquiries with a check. have such an opportunity, who, for what, if the goal was , including, e-e aid for ukraine, and indicate who, what, how helped. this is done so that, despite the repeated departure, it is already clear whether this person is really leaving with such a purpose, or is there any purpose of leaving the way is different and according to the system, there are also a lot of restrictions now, and again, as far as i know from conversations with colleagues, including those who work with it , it is currently unobstructed or with a minimum of certain checks. yes so-called good credit history in this direction, those who receive such permission for the first time may face problems, and representatives

of volunteer organizations may say that they are hindered, but let 's decide here already, or we will check and really stop those who use illegally, and then more time maybe for it will be necessary or this scheme can be used by persons who may be conditionally connected with corruption and what is worse top corruption which unfortunately happened system way - this is only one from methods, for example, escorting a disabled person, and for example, documents related to children's illnesses, which is very necessary because , well, people really need to leave somehow in some very important situations, but that's why volunteers can't leave lviv, instead they leave in safety now there are many other people who drive very expensive cars and do not look like volunteers, i am here even, you know, i will probably quote one of such well-known representatives of public

organizations who commented on these things a long time ago yes, there are three cases again, according to our top ex-top officials, i don't want to just name names and which outraged the society, but he gave very good numbers if we look at the total number of rights there, there are more than 1000, and the society paid attention only there are only three, on the other hand, he does not pay so much attention to the other one, because he really considers them to be fair, or do these three indicate that the system is not working well? well , no, they do not indicate that there is a certain error, perhaps there really are some gaps that need to be corrected in the same way the system is the only way to say how good or bad it is, let's take a real look at the number of volunteers who were able to leave, and what could have been brought to ukraine and potentially still can be compared to the number of expensive cars of the sons

of the swat brothers and so on who left there for some reason, this logic tells me that after all, this number of negative cases, well, such negative cases. yes, it is less, unfortunately, but they also need to be fought, this does not mean that they should be left as they are , let's talk about another such systemic and painful one a problem for ukrainians, especially for ukrainian business, is the work of the tax and customs authorities in the context, once again, oleksiy passed from the point of view of economic losses for the country . what we are currently observing is a thesis that has already been heard and understood pensioners, the blocking of tax invoices is a question of the fact that there is something at customs that should be taxed somehow and er, excuse these mass searches by law enforcement officers from the same tax officials and customs officials, blankets of money

, er, what are all these processes, yes, discussions of searches everything has to convert into something this change in the operation of the system that is happening from the point of view of the tax, how powerful are the losses due to corruption there? well, in principle, the tax and customs are the key points of self-system e-e corruption because, well, these government purchases are in the financial sphere. well, these are we take the main blocks, pillars , where corruption informatics can. why because corruption always finds a financial flow. that is, where there is a large financial flow, big money, accordingly, there it arises. and money where it exists in public procurement of people exists in the financial to the system, that is, it is a national bank, relations with commercial banks exist at the customs office, because the customs office is about 400-500 billion hryvnias of taxes that are collected .

these are huge and and we and we know that smuggling is actually almost, well, probably equal to the official flow of goods well, once upon a time , the national bank, so it is not public , conducted such a study on the difference between the official flow of goods and the one that was calculated according to the so-called identification prices, that is, which should have been made before the war at the level of somewhere at the level of 30 billion dollars. that is, you can imagine the difference, that is , the flow that was supposed to pass through customs differed by 30 billion dollars, and 30 billion are not taxed. and this is approximately if its to tax, well, these are not the numbers that are called saakashvili, there are some fantastic ones, but it is 6-7 billion dollars, taxes can be collected from this financial flow . well, at the moment, 6-7 billion dollars, well, in fact, it is

a small amount, it can actually be doubled the state subsidy is in the pension fund, that is, uah 200 billion should not be paid there, but increase pensions accordingly, increase the subsidy and index much more pensions, that is , the state loses these funds that could be directed to social programs, to the economy , economic development programs, as well as the tax system taxes and there is more loss for the economy, not even from direct corruption, but from the deterioration of the business climate in the country , that is, the customs office. an administrative service that is in constant contact with entrepreneurs, and if this service is uh repressive, if this service is not uh, no, no, it is of poor quality, and in fact it is aimed at suppressing entrepreneurial activity , of course no one will come to us with investments even after the war, because a - and he will always have his communication here that our expectations from

the anti-corruption fight and the fight against schemes is not just getting additional money into the budget due to blocking schemes, it is the creation of an investment climate and the creation of conditions when business will be comfortable, it will develop as a service service, that is, not a repressive service - these are different approaches. because for many years the state performed repressive functions, it was actually such a punishing sword that you know how over the great inquisitor there hung the sword on the cocoon in fact, the state has always been a sword hanging over business and working in such conditions is uncomfortable, to put it mildly, foreign investors really don't like such a situation when they come with their with money, and it is at the entrance, and they are already whitewashing, they require some kind of funds, because corruption, for example, is everywhere, well, we will not find a single country where there is no corruption. and you, corruption even in other countries, it acquires a more progressive character

, so to speak. there is so-called service corruption in china. that is, you come to china, for example , build a factory, and a chinese official actively helps you, he connects you to electricity, builds roads for you, and helps organize the sale of products, and then he is asking to place his son there, for example, on the board of directors, or through some of his company to carry out some arrangements there . well, of course, if the business is already built and it brings the owner there a profitability of 30-40%. well, why give 5% to a good person, they steal from the profit, they will give it from the earnings, it is absolutely true. and we have the so-called uh . and we have corruption at the entrance, that is, does the official whitewash the investor who wants to disturb, that is, the investor comes and says that you are from money because you want to build something here even

they immediately put some percentage on corruption in their budgets. by the way, do you remember a certain ikea that did not want to come here? this company, which we were waiting for very much, really wanted them to open their own furniture stores. and they did not come because they said we were in theirs we don't lay down budgets for this corruption tax, you see, we don't have anything to start a business with, it's corruption from actually incurred investments and not yet received income, that is, if you want to build a factory , let's pay it, that is, i'm actually buying an entrance ticket, that's why, of course that investors they don't come to us even because we have corruption of the same quality as, for example , in other countries. we are establishing this concept that we want to introduce a fight against corruption precisely in order to improve

the investment climate and attract i don't like it a little bit, you know this course of our discussion, that we are choosing a model of a corrupt economy. well, it turns out that there is some kind of eastern one, or maybe some other one, but let's say that it was a joke, because at the moment the status of a candidate in the eu and we already have to respond to the actual specifics to the requirements of the european union last year , i will remind everyone that such an event took place in our country, of course, we were given this status a little in advance. fulfilled and now we are supposedly ready to start negotiations on the actual accession to the eu, which should already take place literally there in the next few years. do you think that ukraine has really reached the level that we were initially given an advance, so to speak? and now, have we reached it? we at that level when can we start talking about joining

the eu in other words, will we sell this elephant this time or again ? hmm, a lot of things, let's go, the prime minister really noted that we have fulfilled absolutely all the conditions, including in the anti-corruption field, in order to meet this status, but you need to understand that it is not just like that , we have fulfilled everything and it is being done and will be done monitoring follows us with such a big magnifying glass for magnification yes that sees absolutely everything and this is very important and is it enough to accept no is not enough of course to accept apart from the appointments of competitions and the adoption of bills it is very important that it all works so that this machine yes this whole system the anti-corruption strategy and program should be in action because the end result is not just acceptance or destination, the end result is just

an improvement, for example, the position of ukraine in the same corruption perception index is zero tolerance among representatives of the public sector, for example, is a reduction in domestic corruption, which actually began to be talked about a little bit. it is the most difficult thing to fight because if you are used to the fact that in order to get some kind of quick decision or some kind of quick service there , you need to pay even 5-10 hryvnias somewhere mentally interferes with the eradication of corruption that we even think about it sometimes , the audience does not think about it either, because it is already like that, it is already a habit at the everyday level , there is already a certain addiction to corruption, what are you you go to the doctor well, how can i put 50 uah in there ? well , what is it, what did the doctor think of me ? they don't need to pay there. it's not necessary like before, but still, this moment

there in relation to good specialists in any field, it sometimes even on such a mental level unfortunately unfortunately leads to the fact that it is supposedly considered such gratitude yes, we are many it is even simply called gratitude is gratitude and what are we talking about now? we talked about investments, we are talking about an anti -corruption strategy in the conditions of ukraine, which is in a state of war , what is the latest need for investments that are much greater than there a year ago or two years ago , we need to know in order to stand still as the famous author said, we need to run so fast, including in the anti-corruption direction, that we should not look at any model somewhere in the east , west or africa. we should simply to demonstrate one's deed and the fact that there will be zero tolerance and corruption and this applies to absolutely all the essence to understand simply are we saying to convince the eu by one's own actions and results and not just

by the formal implementation of these seven points i only said only the specifics only a-a minimum let's say that there is such negative news that somewhere someone stole and crossed the border in order to get something or cash crosses the border. god forbid. well , there are a lot of them. yes, i think that the audience sees and hears the same thing, for example, on the fourth in march, our cabinet of ministers adopted a huge 300 -plus page so-called program, which was just completed, not that the anti-corruption strategy was implemented . what is the program? there was corruption, how to increase the integrity of teachers, how to make sure that there are no dissertations for money, there will still be projects, but the only global one is in 15 areas and more than one and a half thousand events for

a second, it’s even well, you know, that’s too much for perception, but all these measures are related to specific areas and specific indicators are prescribed for what we should achieve , and these are the results. they will testify there until 2025. specifically, this program is how we are moving towards the national anti-corruption agency even wants to create such a huge resource where it will be possible to monitor it in real time, and by the way, if the public and each of us joins in and specifically says that bribes should not be taken here, or if some system needs to be speeded up or made more convenient, and i think i think this flexibility will help us to achieve this, because each of us who cares, yes , who prefers to live in ukraine, understands that and we can't do it any other way. we talked, there was only one minute left, oleksiy, are you analyzing the examples of other countries, their experience, judging by the way the fight

against corruption took place in the world, how much time does it take in ukraine at the pace of the fight against corruption that we see now, and we will be honest people, well people frankly want to overcome this trouble in the country. how much time do we need in order to reach the level that we said that corruption is needed in ukraine? well, at the moment we only have the prerequisites for the system to fight corruption because this architecture or institutions that were supposed to fight corruption in our country, in fact, there was a certain sabotage of the functioning of these constitutions, but only now, well, in fact, already . that is, for example , before we had nabu, but the higher anti-corruption court did not work

, there the work of the special anti-corruption prosecutor's office was blocked . political will is not necessary for this machine to start working at the systemic level, but i predict that real gains in the fight against corruption will begin only when it is a fight against corruption as a network, that is, it is not what i was delaying one other and the second factor - these are the so-called big fish, i.e. when the delays begin among active officials and high-ranking officials, i.e. then in fact it will be seen that this is an ideal struggle because, for example , if we look at the experience and further that is, they covered the entire net, and the net is a big fish that stands at the top of this corruption pyramid, then the so-called corrupt . that is what you can call. that is, that support group and related structures in state bodies

. that is, there are corrupt prosecutors, judges, and others. i.e. these three main segments. and here are the italians, they were successful when they detained one or the other , they were successful only when they did not thoroughly prepare the operations. they were prepared in complete secrecy and then delays were carried out when hundreds or even thousands of people were detained at the same time and delayed exactly that throughout the three -layer system, i.e. big fish , corrupt infantry, how many years do we have before we reach years in order for us to get real results well, this is real time , you can say that we will defeat it tomorrow, but the experience of italy shows that the italians started in the 80s, in the late 90s, they already said that the mafia is socially dangerous

the phenomenon it disappeared from the horizon is called i just want to say that everyone who is interested in the last six months , a report on re in other words, we may not see the big fish somewhere, but we see the number of cases, we see the court verdicts , we see the amount of funds that are returned to the budget , we see, for example, the same thing, we are forced to defend today, but they send funds , and the funds that were in including the removed girls and big fish will definitely be there. therefore, i want to say that you will be faster, and we have to put an end to this. the main thing is that we are moving in this direction, that we a-a see a-a successful cases, we see open cases of this anti-corruption system and arguments are only about when we will finally see the final result, and that's cool. thank you very much to everyone

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everything this time everywhere we got everything and everything was reported to me sergey kozhuet you were stupidly surrendered by stelmakhs well such a chp this is the same . march to kyiv where the russian flag is located in lviv where the whole world is afraid of us where this is all and nothing will come of my sick head, everything is as usual, it’s just catching up to me i’ll fix everything, i’ll give you the words we say and the officer, what kind of officer is that word

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