[000:00:00;00] he was shot with many colored wounds, well, the body itself, and well, it is quite likely that he is the one in these shots, and it is, in principle, just as fair in this case for his family and for his memory , if he is really someone to us and a lot of there are comments, you know, such a discussion is rotten. i think it starts on the topic of what well, let's not inflame it anymore. let 's not split it up. well, they say, what's the difference? yes, i don't know my hair here, i'd like to see ideas like this because you know what makes us different from the russians, it 's that they have real things, look at the russians , this is a country that is completely built on lies

, they stole someone else's history, they publish it they took it as their own, a foreign language that you gave as your own, you invented a name for your ethnicity , which also does not exist, and in principle, if you take the same soviet union, where everything was a lie, well , simply from the beginning to the end, which someone believed at first, then everyone, when stopped believing it didn't fall apart, well, but well, this is really a country of lies from russia, it's actually a social experiment of interest, including whether , in principle, it is possible to build a large society entirely on lies, and whether it can be stable and even somehow exist there more or less functionally, well, ukraine when we say that we are not russia, first of all we have to say that we cannot afford lies as normality, how normal some things are, but when ukrainians justify lies, it means that these are these, this russian peace, these

metastases of the russian world, they have already seeped in and are trying to multiply when the ukrainians say no, let's not dig about it, so that people don't think badly of us , on the contrary, to talk about problems, a parallel, it 's copper, for example, about 48 or so many panphilians who stopped the german-fascist army on approaches to moscow there in some 42nd or some other year 1900 and this is the canon , in fact the history of the history of russian, it is all written in the textbooks with this boy who covered the girls with his chest but for some reason they shot him in the back. but, what am i talking about? when they had a little bit of democracy for a short period of time, all the serious historians who usually wrote that it was a mead, moreover, all mentioned that the mass of those military personnel who were actually in that unit of cyrus there were those panphilians. they were during the war and after the war, who survived? they said, we are these panphilians. hey, give us at least some kind

of increased pension, i don’t know. but they weren’t allowed to say that because, according to the official version, everyone died, so what’s the matter? you remember how did it end under putin, all those historians, in fact, they all lost their jobs, all of them were silenced, they were forbidden to undermine, in principle, i remember how one of the russian politicians, deputies of the state duma, said that it doesn't matter what happened in reality, it's never interesting. this is our sacred history. this is how russia is built, they are built on lies, you know very well , someone said about the russians that we need some of the great politicians of the last century that when you deal with russians, you should understand that sometimes they lie just like that, that's what's wrong

it just pops into your head. what seems to be incomprehensible, crazy, crazy to a european, to a european . you understand that a person can lie for some benefit, but no one can imagine that a person can lie just like that for pleasure or simply because lying is cool or simple because lying is how to breathe, that's basically the essence of russia, if you say it clearly, it's not that vysotsky tsoi is there, akhmatova lermontov is there, pushkin is there, and you know a good russian in quotes, but good ones, well , the reality is that they are all actually too suffered because they tried to tell the truth tell the truth it's not about being russian anymore stepan is a soldier of the 10th separate mountain assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine former head of the ternopil regional state administration joins us mr. stepan good morning greetings glory to ukraine glory to the heroes tell us where you are now and what is your situation there

, i am always in the donbas, the direction of bakhmut, here and there, the absolute majority of all military formations of ukraine are located, and of course, what is happening here is bigger now the greatest attention is paid to the events at the front, at the front, mr. stepan, did you read how president zelenskyi answered the journalists all the same, but why, why is bakhmut important? do you agree with his statement that if ukrainians leave the defense of bakhmut, this will open the way for the russians to other cities

. i apologize to mr. stepan barno and he is a military officer. i can say briefly, that is, i have my own idea about those things, well, the first position is that the most valuable thing today is a serviceman and the life of a soldier must be protected, we can and will stand independent whether in bahmut or in landing or in soldier, be it possible, it is good quality support for artillery barrel jet aircraft and this will give is a guarantee that each and every soldier will reliably protect the ukrainian land from the further advance of the russian occupier . it is clear that you are asking me how important bakhmut is from the demographic point of view it is obvious that it is already so important from the point of view of human habitation, the city has been destroyed, but if you ask me as a combat outpost , that is, for defense, it is obvious that it is easier to defend in bahmut than, for example, in landing, where

are my brothers and where are my units in which i serve, and therefore if you want to ask me from the point of view of this , it is certain that today it is obvious that bakhmut is a kind of fortress as long as there are some prices above 3 meters, until then you can keep a defense there and there is no encirclement. i am just mr. stepan, one of our viewers, mykola saksagan, just wrote that what is the point of discussing this and the decision of the general staff . is this enough for us? is happening in our country, but i have questions. i know that they arise for all people. if people can talk about them in the kitchen, that 's not bad. if they can't talk about them in the kitchen . well, that's really bad. well, but questions. i am

grateful that there is an opportunity to talk about these questions in to the live ether here is my question in this case, my question in this case, if you allow me, and i apologize if we withdraw all the troops in the direction of bakhmut and say that in principle it is not strategically important for us , then why don't we make it strategically important because you know well that is, if all the russians withdraw all their troops in one small point and we do the same is it good and can we afford such an exchange and will it not end? we don't want that, friends, it's obvious that there is a plan of the command team, and it is possible to understand that if there is a plan, then there is a certain algorithm for actions, and we understand that you are chained today by the e-e russian army

of leadership propaganda so great that they are ready in many circumstances in order to satisfy their informational requests there , er, to give up somewhat in their capabilities , for example, to protect the south of the south of ukraine , that is, the territories that are currently occupied in the south of ukraine, it is obvious that a certain function what we are doing here is pulling the russian occupier away from the southern part of our country, and these are extremely important things that are being done , so when we talk about what will happen next , it is obvious that the next step should be echelon helmet defense, the formation of a series of fortifications that will not allow the russian occupier to advance in the direction er, there is kramatorsk slavyansk , druzkivka, er, constanty-konstantynivka and

many other settlements that we talked about on the other side of the bakhmut position , as a result of which it can potentially be occupied the western part of donbass, i think that it will become as of today, there are enough opportunities to maintain the positions at this moment, i will tell you that today and part of donbass, where we are now , it has been transformed into a solid structure. advance to the russian occupier, mr. stepano, you said that demographically, bakhmut is no longer of such importance because it is actually of such importance because it is actually destroyed and there are only peaceful civilians left

bakhmut is some kind of a small amount , but the russians, nevertheless, for them, bakhmut is something like that, now there will be some other sacred tick on the next one, and they are doing everything possible to say that bakhmut is theirs, as it manifests itself, this is all possible every day, or do you notice what are you doing? now they have somehow increased the shelling of bakhmut. what will your observations feel according to your feelings? friends, the fighting here has been going on for the past six months and every day - this is a solid bakhmut and i would not like us to level the positions of those guys somewhere. which are above bakhmut, below bakhmut, to the south, to the north behind bakhmut, and so on. it is obvious that everyone fulfills their function and does not give the opportunity to surround the city of bakhmut and thereby save the lives of the boys who

are directly in the city of bakhmut. this is the first position, so i will say my observations that activity has increased tremendously . nevertheless, ukrainian soldiers do not yield in their desires to the desire to defend the ukrainian land and do not give the opportunity to advance and give in to their positions, i sincerely say that in it is quite a difficult situation for us, but we are holding on to what i will tell you and we are not giving in to our positions . thank you very much for this conversation, and it is very important to hear from the people who are currently under fire, how they assess the situation.

it was military servicemen, mr. stepan. thank you very much, the greatest good thing today is to read the figure that 150 there were 5,000 years lying in ukrainian land. well, it is not always necessary to say orcs and muscovites russians, those who suffocated on ukrainian land and there will be many, many more of them, but it is important for us to understand what it is the support of the rear, the support of the people. it is extremely important, and that is why we thank you for this support. together we will win . glory to ukraine glory to the heroes. thank you for what you do. the figure of how the number of mobilized muscovites and those who gladly went to the calls of some czech wagner to choose ukrainian lands is decreasing, they do not

kill themselves and this is hard hard work the bloody daily work of our e-e military now, in particular, in donbas , we will analyze the actual situation on the front line with our serhii with the hurce, a military expert and the director of the defense express company, mr. serhii joins us. volodymyr zelenskyi told cnn please, thank you very much, mr. serhiy volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of ukraine, a journalist there told cnn that bakhmut is very important because of what it will give, then if suddenly we surrender , bakhmut will give russians access to other cities as well

how do you evaluate these words? in fact, the enemy moved towards bakhmut. it is about 40 km for nine months, that is, in fact, the average pace of progress there was 4 km per month, and actually this potential of the enemy's offensive has already been exhausted. the plans he had for the coverage of this tactical settlement, if we are talking about the fact that the defense line is far away , we are talking about the slavic kramatorsk, then there are still 20 kilometers or less along the defense line, which is also protected i think it is correct to say that the enemy has the potential to actively advance further after seizing bakhmut . i think this somewhat overestimates the enemy's capabilities at the

current stage. on donbas, which began on february 8. i think that it is now in such a decisive phase from the point of view of exhausting the capabilities of the russian forces operating in these directions that, in any case, bakhmut is important from the point of view of deterring the enemy and is bound by a significant of the number of russian forces, but then the movement of the enemy for bakhmut, which let's talk only theoretically from the plane. in reality, there is no potential to overcome significant distances as much as ukraine. as i understand it, i was also forced to increase the grouping of troops that help to get bakhmut, does that not make this confrontation already strategic are important for us, and is there a danger that we will go into a head-on confrontation with the main

forces of the russian army, which can outnumber us, and in the means of artillery, etc., and aviation, we say about the urban section of the front, about 10 km, while the entire section is 800 km, yes. that is, we are talking about the fact that on the 800 km line, we hold back the enemy, and the bakhmut zone is only a small part of the front line. now, first of all, the ukrainian side is directed to the solution of three tasks, this is, i repeat, the destruction of the enemy , the acquisition of a line of defense and the provision of time for preparation, waiting for the arrival of forces from other countries, all this is now under bakhmut carries out a fairly effective ratio of losses. so when i said two weeks ago that one to 10 is what

the officers who fight under bakhmut told me . now we say there 1/5 to 1 of the enemy from the point of view of military approaches is considered absolutely rational and expedient to hold defense in such conditions, because it allows the destruction of the overwhelming forces of the enemy, and it is no longer only about the wagnerites, they were replaced by many more , which are destroyed there, and other regular units of the russian army, which are there, which are so they find their death there, so that in any case maintaining a tactical point of view looks quite rational. and when we talk about our reserves, we can assume that we have at least several corps formed there, in each corps there are

three four brigades each, which actually now have the main mission of preparing for the next offensive contract, none of these brigades have been transferred to perform functions in the bakhmut zone, that is, bakhmut and other areas of the front receive those that are not actually tangential to the formation of those reserves that we are forming for a counteroffensive, this can be said quite seriously, the audience is asking and this is for sure and this is also a question that also arises from journalists about why some units are withdrawn from bakhmut, this is again to to to that to those remarks from some of our viewers, but why discuss any decisions of the general staff? well, the profession of journalism is such that we discuss issues that arise either with the audience or with us. they

arise, and we are able to address them . serhii zorets will not say this when talking to experts. who can be trusted and everyone trusts everything seriously. then you just read it on some teleg channel and some layer will tell you that they are being taken there by aliens in order to sell people there or that's how it works. serhiy , please, when we talk about the situation in bakhmut around him in fact, now i am behind, but there is a certain stabilization. now we are talking about the fact that both the northern and southern flanks, which will be the most threatening now with the advances of our units, that is, there is an expansion of these ticks that are trying to buy the enemy from

in the north from the south, er, our troops moved beyond the bakhmutka river from er, er, on the eastern side. and in fact, right along the river , a fairly effective line of defense now continues. and when we talk about the western flank, who is it actually used for logistical support two a and the bridges that were destroyed, in fact, they are er and one bridge that goes from the e of yar times to the chrome one, it was partially restored by the engineers of the troops, er , a bypass road was created there, it is used and used and the second er direction is just along the kostyantynivka highway there is not in the ivanivskoye zone, there is a channel like that, we can see it below, and when we reach the destroyed bridge on the eh in the ivanivskoye zone , you can turn there and then already on the dirt roads and leave the zone of bright times, two

roads for these exactly, they provide everything necessary for our grouping. i think that the strengthening of the frontal, i.e., flanking units in the north and in the south is taking place at the same time, and at the same time, certain units are probably now rotating in the pakhmut area using these two routes that are in in principle, they remain working and also we have to take into account what we are saying about what seems to be against them. because the limitless sit down , i think that when the ukrainian side makes a decision to hold bakhmut, it relies on intelligence data. it knows the real potential of the enemy from the point of view of the artillery of live armored vehicles i think that the sober calculations of the ukrainian side allow us to draw conclusions about how long it makes sense to keep bakhmut or to take it even further

or to draw certain conclusions when the threat can to be critical, but now we see that in fact the situation around bakhmut does not look more stable than it was, well, at least a week ago this week there was official information from the ukrainian air force that ukrainian pilots had arrived at the american base and that we immediately there were many assumptions that this is already somehow related to the flight program for the f-16, which means that the f-16 will still be handed over to us soon, i know that the defense press tried to deal with this issue, what can we say in the end, what what how should we interpret the very fact of the appearance of ukrainian pilots at the american air base, well, look at what is actually history. with the adoption of certain such decisions regarding the creation of training conditions for our pilots, it is known that these are

the first swallows when our military gets acquainted with the training opportunities of this base there is and there is a base there and the national guard of the air force there are actually planes and f-16 there are simulators for these planes there are simulators for attack aircraft a 10 thunderbolt but in any case i think that this is only the first step that should determine the time frame necessary for training and assess the potential of our capabilities in order to have trained pilots in a short period of time, and on the other hand, there are many different discussions about the transfer of the f-16 to us, the political leadership of the usa says that it is not yet time, but in any case it is necessary to prepare how

i understand the pilots and the second component is related to aviation, we see a significant number of new solutions that are related to the strengthening of our existing platforms, there are 29 su-27 when it comes to the turkish new means of glide bombs, which it became known just yesterday that they already three weeks are used by ukrainian aircraft to destroy enemy targets at a distance of 40 km plus, these are very powerful weapons, and i think that now i think that other options will definitely be adopted that can strengthen the existing fleet of our aircraft with new weapons, and this just might be done faster than expected f-16 planes are any needed in the medium term, i am asking for planes, but not ours and those , that is, about one plane that was negatived

probably the belarusian partisans yesterday lukashenko got angry there and said that the challenge was thrown, well, in addition to all that, he also said something else, what does the challenge mean , because he somehow did not specify, i think that lukashenko's behavior was something historic if we watched his behavior there and that he spoke she really gets the impression that putin is putting so much pressure on lukashenka that lukashenko is no longer lukashenko starts saying some absolutely no no no no inadequate things and this phrase challenges well, i really do too she is a joke of some attention but i think it is again the same elements games for the public because now there are no opportunities for which there are military actions, the path of the army is not capable of carrying out , we already talked about it more than once, not once , this is a printout of passions for one's own

environment in order to somehow and further e- raise the bar of tension. i think that this is what we are dealing with now . lukashenko is properly connected with the attack on the plane a 10. we have seen a 50 long-range debatable detection. significant because there have already been losses the plane is there now. they are preparing to replace it if they succeed, and we see that around this , well, in belarus, they are trying to think about another hysteria connected, as it were, with an external threat to this country, to somehow correct this story that is connected with the attempts of regular exercises there mobilizations and so on. and i will also ask about that. the guardian mentions, they mentioned the figure with reference to their sources in various official western

governments that russia lost up to 30,000 in the battles for bakhmut, is this a lot or a little like us before that bet if they could mobilize half a million well, i think that we do not know these indicators for sure because there is no specified period for which this implementation is a loss there, but if even 30,000, then i think that it is even possible that it is not for the entire period, we will talk much less time what did the wagners mobilize there, these 50,000, the left part of the two analyzes concluded the functions just in the bakhmut zone, the losses of the wagners amounted to about 30,000, what was there, it was announced by certain structures, and then, i think that, if we let's add the losses and the full-time russian army so the loss indicators

russians in the bakhmut area must be more than the 30,000 mentioned by hartin, because it coincides with your losses among animals. well, there are some guesses as to how many there could be. well , in fact, the estimation of enemy losses is quite such a complicated thing, in any case , we understand that the significant potential of the wagnerites has been bitten off now throw the regular units of russia under bakhmut and they will have the same fate because if we say now that in general russia lost 150,000 personnel during the entire hostilities well then eh within the limits of eh yes they units. well, i think thousands to 20 can be said, because these factors are not actually counted in these losses, which are related to the russian army. thank you, mr. serhiy

. the second hour ends with the naming of all kinds of brands that appear and take advantage of the fact that we are now at war and some people or symbols or cities-symbols appear. how do they abuse this and should it be done by calling sausage chernobayvka or kombucha bucha or e radish e -is from the seeds of radish, er, azovsteel and so on, the violin called it very cool and called it byraktarov, what is this, some new version of sharovarshchyna, it’s also quite sad. well , everyone understands that this is a childhood disease , a return to one’s origins, nationally , we will also talk further, continue, eh it's time to congratulate them. they started to congratulate