[000:00:00;00] of information resistance, andriy lenko, officer of the freedom battalion of the national guard of ukraine, and in the end, i would also like to call on our viewers to join the gathering that hosts the espress tv channels socially with the autoangel foundation and the civilization of europe charitable foundation. in the bakhmut direction, our soldiers work with drones, shoot videos with them, you all see, we like to watch them, and the enemy always seems to know what he sees , join the gathering, our goal is to gather on the car is uah 300,000 and we have already advanced enough in this direction, you can see the jr-code that you can remove and very quickly actually join and have your own contribution to the defense of bahmut well, my time is up

, serhii rudenko is now joining the broadcast, his verdict, so meet congratulations to serhiy thank you olga congratulations and literally in a few seconds we will start the verdict glory to ukraine this is a verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today march 8 is the 378th day of the heroic struggle of the ukrainian people against the russian occupiers ukraine is preparing for a major offensive this is reported by the british edition of the economist and adds that now the flow of western weapons has turned from a stream to a river , the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine reports that during the past night, the air force of the defense force has struck seven strikes on areas where the occupiers are concentrated , and our defenders have shot down an enemy drone the orlan 10 aircraft, the russian occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning

of march 8, russia has already lost in ukraine 155 5030 people in the last day only, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 700 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 1436 tanks 6723 armored combat vehicles 2463 artillery systems 488 rocket systems fire hall 253 means of anti -air defense 303 airplanes 289 helicopters 531 automobile equipment 18 ships, boats, 873 cruise missiles, 2,098 drones, 236 units of special equipment, about the maidan in georgia, how georgia is trying to fight pro-russian forces in the country

, about the behavior of lukashenka, who yesterday called president zelenskyi is a nit well, the derg that attacks russia and belarus today we will talk for the next hour, i want to introduce today's first guest - this is oleksandr hara, a diplomat, an expert of the center for defense strategies, mr. oleksandr good day, good health to you and i am glad that you joined our broadcast good afternoon , mr. serhiy, it's a pleasure to be on your air , let's start our conversation with the protests in tbilisi, a restless night has come, the protesters have taken to the streets of the city of the georgian capital and tear gas and water cannons were used against them for dispersal. we know that there is an action in georgia against the parliament's failure to adopt the law on

foreign agents. in the footage you see now, the crowd is blocking rustaveli avenue and the police are using water cannons . the protesters are holding the flags of georgia and the european union. and as reported by the georgian mass media, the clash continued until late at night, later the police pushed the protesters away from the parliament building the participants scanned ukrainians know well the song slogan about putin well, the president of georgia salomeza robashvili confirmed the protests and supported the protests and said that the country does not need the law on inno agents and assured that she will impose it on the initiative , we will hear salome zurabishvili , nobody needed this law, it came

out of nowhere but maybe it was dictated from moscow , it must be canceled no matter what, there is no way to send it to the venetian commission the venetian commission knows very well what kind of law this is, i said from the first day that i would i don't care about preparing it. we don't care about its similarity to some old american law, which, as we well know, serves completely different purposes. oleksandr, let's explain to our tv viewers what is happening in georgia and how it can affect the russian-ukrainian war, taking into account the fact that until now georgia has held quite such a, well, if you can say moderate. and i would say that the official

tbilisi tried to maintain neutrality, well, at least don't make sharp moves towards russia. well, i would start with reverse assessments of how moscow actually sees what is happening there, and now i have two quotes in front of my eyes. the first is mr. slutsky, head of the committee of the so-called state parliament of the russian federation. he says that the parliament of georgia, which represents the people of the country, showed its resilience without looking back at washington and brussels, followed the expected or demanded by society and defended national sovereignty and independence of course, if we hear this russian slang, we understand that it means something completely different, or such a well-known fascist, primakov , the son of another fascist, primakov, we can see whether participation in political processes is clear that the draft law, which, as it were

, is called to protect the national interests of the state and show that those sources of funding of independent or non-governmental organizations seemed like a good idea, it was tacitly understood that it is better for society to know the process, but given that well, if we know how the russian federation that this is not a transparent system of financing its fifth columns in other states and ukraine , we have tried it on ourselves, it is clear that for them this law was definitely not spread, they would have the opportunity to support how they are currently acting on the post-soviet space, thank god, ukraine is no longer supporting its fifth column, actually this concerned primarily those states and state institutions that help georgia on its way to primarily european and atlantic integration, and it

was completely unexpected that the draft law was introduced by the so-called people's power movement, which absolutely repeats all the clichés and clichés of russian propaganda, and it is clear that this is not objective, so to speak, by such a force that would really like such a balanced law that would allow society to watch and finance these non-governmental organizations. well, it is clear that if mr. slutsky says about the will of the people, then we see now on the screen the will of the people, it didn't work out, did some handful of 10 students there, or such a rather powerful powerful force come out? so, actually, we see two important points well, first of all, the most important thing is that we must always remember that sakartvela is a country of free people, and they showed it

more than once when they stood against the russians or those who, er, mean, lead the state and lead them in the other direction, and now we see that well, the most important thing is that russian influence has really increased and the possibility of actually moving the country towards the european union and nato is decreasing, and this is the most important thing that worries these people. we have seen them and heard the advertising and america 's conditions. europeans are american the embassy of football players said that this is a black day for democracy well, of course, the europeans say that it complicates the path to europe for this country and actually, therefore, now we see how the living soul of a free people who wants to be in the family of free peoples and efforts is fighting russia is actually going to complete this uh let's put it this way what they call color revolutions in this uh this wave of people to the point of living in a free state and they want

to strengthen their influence well and of course that such a picture works very well in russia show what you see. this is the cia, the fbi, this cookie, nuland. we have stability here. and what does it all lead to ? look at ukraine, because of course they constantly say that ukraine is to blame . the most important thing is that it is not independent, that there are some curators of the washington regional committee and other things that are actually not interested in the stability of these states, and georgia also serves as an example of this, of course, that the ukrainians are on the side of the people of the secret world , of course we would like to see er to it the issue was resolved and there were no victims so that there would be no maidan in our understanding of the sad 14th year. that is why

we would definitely like to see all of these fifth columns out of office and probably better as fugitives as well as certain ukrainian officials and mps who are now in moscow, we see mr. oleksandr that now georgia is fighting, georgians are fighting with pro-russian influence and the pro-russian government and those forces that are trying to actually duplicate these decisions that the state duma of russia passes there, this means regarding foreign agents and entering georgia according to its own way, a year ago, or rather, in may 2022, the president of georgia, salometro rabyshvili, stated that ukraine will not use the war in ukraine to return its territories captured by russia by military means, and then several more times. this statement was also duplicated and was it has been said that we are not

going to do anything now, and in abkhazia they have ordered that the people who live there should not worry, but still, considering the prospects of the collapse of russia and the prospects of the return of the territory occupied by the russian federation is meant, including abkhazia and ossetia and the transnistrian republic of moldavia not recognized uh-uh, to what extent is the opening of a second front, conditionally speaking , by the post-soviet countries that are currently suffering from the occupation of the russian federation, how far can this prospect open, i mean that the georgians will understand that perhaps the time has come to regain those territories that were occupied by the russian federation, because i am not mistaken in the georgian measure of 30%

of the territory. well, you know, you still forgot about the northern the territories of japan that were not illegally captured by the soviet union and are held by russia, of course we would like this chimera to be torn to pieces and of course it did not pose a threat primarily to those subjects of the russian federation who suffer primarily yes in these soldiers who russia has been leading for centuries, well, especially the liberation that is relevant for us now . here, but i understand that, let's say , the uprising that was there is a certain skepticism about the ability of the georgian armed forces to solve this issue. well, you don’t know yet, definitely. we say that we have already won our war, although in fact

not to the end, that is, putin was not able to destroy our statehood. victory is not yet visible and of course this means that we should not relax, of course our neighbors see all this and they understand that this beast is not yet destroyed, it is only wounded. but it has the ability to continue this war. i i think that such calculations exist in georgia , which is more or less a fighting country with a fighting spirit and which, in principle, would be capable of inflicting painful defeats on the russians in the occupied territories. unfortunately, i think that there is simply no such possibility in moldova , despite the fact that in the temporarily occupied territory of transnistria, there are no powerful forces that could do anything, but on the other hand, moldova does not have the ability to do anything, and we see these swings that are currently happening in moldova, this is

an attempt by the special services to shake the state when it cannot seize it and definitely threaten ukraine, our cock, definitely this is an extremely sensitive , sensitive, let's say so direction for us, and we would have to divert certain forces and means of the armed forces of the defense forces in order to prevent any negative actions there from that side, unfortunately in we are such neighbors, unfortunately for ukraine. we realized that the policy of not only this president, but actually the two previous three, or rather the previous ones, was not completely effective from the point of view of solving these frozen conflicts. since we tried to play especially if we are talking about transnistria, to play the role of such an impartial mediator, very often our actions and position coincided with the russian ones. well, i am not talking about the corrupt component in the south that did not

allow us to make certain decisions that could suppress this russian enclave on the territory of transnistria that is, in principle, we are reaping such fruits . well, by the way, the same can be said about the failed policy of the last ones. well, i would say even 10 years in the belarusian direction, we will not go deeper into history there, and now we hear that in in the announcement, they said about the fuhrer of the belarusian peace, about how he insulted our president, who pretends to be such an impartial or friend of ukraine, who does not seem to do anything bad and does not want to enter this war, although in fact, from the point of view of international law and ukrainian legislation, belarus is the same an aggressor country, as well as the russian federation , in fact, we are now reaping the fruits of the failures

of our foreign policy of previous years, not only er, let's say so, the last one of yours, the beginning of a large-scale invasion. let's let's talk about lukashenka, if you have already mentioned him, because yesterday the self-proclaimed president of belarus spoke about ukrainian saboteurs who tried to damage or damaged the plane and 50 that was standing at the airfield in the stepfather and this is a russian plane. word war, let's hear what exactly lukashenko said, i somehow thought that ukraine needs peace, that zelensky is sick for his people , president zelensky is just a nit, just

a nit, such operations cannot be carried out without coordination with the leader of the country, the commander-in-chief, i am telling you that he is a nit because he runs around belarusians, he sends people to us and asks, as i have already said, let's make a pact not to attack, let's agree with you. there are no problems with what i said. we are not going to attack. no, let's sign an agreement under the auspices of the united nations that you will not attack us and the group. well, you heard all of my statements and at this time. they want to drag us into war at the behest of the americans. and if you think that you have thrown this challenge into the war tomorrow, which today is already going on all over europe, you are mistaken. this is a belarusian cockroach

, if you use its terminology together with the kremlin mollio. they are trying to kill now and destroy the ukrainian state, but for the second time lukashenko publicly mentions some non-aggression pact that kyiv is trying to conclude with him, and frankly, i am lost in guesses as to what kind of non-aggression pact this is, especially in the context of the fact that belarus is participating in in this war and in fact since february 24, 2022 has been an accomplice in the russian-ukrainian war on the side of moscow, can you, oleksandr, explain to me and tell me what pact lukashenko is constantly talking about, constantly repeats the non-aggression pact that zelenskyy wants to conclude with lukashenko, does it even exist

this is some kind of story in addition to what sounds from the lips of lukashenka, well, first of all, you know that the russians and now this lukashenka regime. they very often resort to prehistoric parallels, and the very word pact in our country is different than a young ribintrope, it cannot evoke anything. i can assume that before the invasion, when it was clear that this could happen, there might have been some negotiations and they tried to prevent lukashenka from giving his territory to the invasion. but i remember very well how the minister of defense of ukraine responded to his invitation to the belarusian who there assured that there would be no attack on the part of belarus and actually trust after that, when the tanks of these orcs went to kyiv from belarusian territory , there can be absolutely no trust in this impostor, he

rages not because there is something zelenskyi asks him and there, is he somehow deceiving, absolutely no, definitely, he complains about the fact that we are able to shake his regime, and above all, a large number of belarusians are fighting on our side, who are a direct threat to him . do and cannot, in principle, hope for some, shall we say, some kind of coming to power, those who are now fighting in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine with belarusian citizenship , they pose a threat to him, and it is certain that he is constantly trying to put it that way to restrain ukraine in supporting such movements in supporting the opposition. it seems to me that he partially succeeded in this, unfortunately , we as a state did not publicly express ourselves about

, let's say, who is the legitimately elected president. it seems to me that there is a role for ukraine in to unite the disparate belarusian opposition, to help it with everything possible, and organizational, financial, and ideological in that sense, we understand that until belarus is under the influence of such a person, an impostor who despises interests of belarusians and the national interests of belarus, he is selling the national interests of his neighbor. moreover, god forbid, it will be occupied and absorbed into the russian federation. therefore, we should be more proactive here. but in this speech , there is a positive thing in his speech that he let's say yes, it is definitely referred to by the cia. i don't know the fbi. who are the other conspirators who are pushing ukraine? well, thank god that he made the right conclusion that belarus and the belarusians do not need to fight with ukraine

because he said that they will tolerate or write off it is not the failure of those who want to drag the war into belarus, it is already in the war, but it is certain that we are not interested as a state, as ukrainian society is not interested in belarusian citizens crossing the borders and starting to fight with us, this will not give the belarusians this war, they will not win maybe they can just stick to this train or the titanic, which is already surely going to the bottom , i don’t think that the belarusian people need this , mr. oleksandr. what do you think, after these public dirty insults from lukashenka, should the ukrainian authorities, and in particular volodymyr zelensky to meet with the leaders of the belarusian opposition, including svitlana tikhanovskaya, as do other leaders of democratic states in the west and support the belarusian position because they understand that they still

need to rely on someone in the future regarding the republic of belarus. why does the ukrainian government take such a strange position? well, no because food products continue to go from there, food products, bitumen for road construction and something else there, well, why is the ukrainian government somehow let's put it this way, it doesn't torpedo this story from the belarusian position, no shows who our government would like to see the future under. especially since kyiv officially did not recognize the powers of the president of the self -proclaimed president lukashenka in 2020. well, you know it's some kind of mess that fell to zelensky as a result, because you remember very well that the previous president was criticized for the fact that he did not break diplomatic relations with the russian federation, now we still have

an embassy in minsk. although i see absolutely no sense, these people cannot perform their functions because they are under strict counter-intelligence e-e regime, and it is also clear that any of their contacts pose a threat to any normal belarusians because they are monitored. it is not about protecting the interests of our citizens, because the break in diplomatic relations does not mean the automatic break in consular relations, and therefore our consul could absolutely stay there, but politically there is no such connection. i think that this should be done a long time ago was to make a second point regarding the opposition. i absolutely agree and it seems to me that this is an absolutely correct opinion, but i think that ukraine should become a platform and such an initiator of the unification of the entire opposition and its strengthening

, including once again i want to remember those fighters who are now fighting for only for the independence of ukraine, for our freedom, but also for their own freedom . it seems to me that they should be there . there are also other representatives present there, that is, not only the tikhanovite party, which is, let's say, formally recognized by the western world as legitimate representative of the belarusian people but there are also other representatives who fought against the regime for a long time, not only by fate, the will was given. i apologize, i mentioned machiavelli how one can come to power. that's it. i think we could be the initiators, we could be a platform where all the representatives of the anti will say yes of the nazi anti-fascist regime of putin lukashenko, they could find a certain platform, let's say, to change the opinion of their fellow citizens together, and in

the future, it is certain that they led an independent belarus, and it is certain that ukraine has to work on this old idea is from the time of george bush. europe is integral. it means in peace and on podillia , yes, that is, without belarus, moldova, georgia. are interested in the victory of democracy in belarus, and that is precisely why we must make efforts to unite the disparate oppositions, give them a platform to help, what can we do to help ? hmm belongs pass therefore definitely i absolutely agree with regard to such a step, we should already prepare and take it well, in the meantime , the disintegration of the empire

, reformatting of the system of international relations is already heard more often on the broadcasts of russian propaganda channels , and volodymyr serlovyov is talking about this, he is asking questions like to get out of this war, because no one from russia intends to negotiate , let's see solovyov, everything that is happening absolutely corresponds to the collapse of great empires, which has been around since ancient times , an inevitable war between fragments disintegrating empires are inevitable in the wake of this war, neighbors are inevitable, the reformation of the entire space and the system of international relations is simply inevitable, we are now actually paying a terrible price for the treachery and stupidity of the last soviet and first russian leaders. this is how we will get out of this war, this is what is very important we generally understand what

a terrible threat looms over our country . no one is gathering with us to agree on anything. it is necessary to understand that they are gathering to destroy us. brought putin and what the world wants to do with russia, but he did not name putin here. he said that the first leaders of russia and avoided the name of putin. because putin has been in power for 20 years , he mentioned those who led to the collapse of the soviet union . what do you think, how quickly will it be implemented and are the correct conclusions he is already drawing, well, first of all , you know, i keep saying that russia is an already formed fascist state and refer to, well, in fact, the definition of umberto

eco, and there is a very important point that this is an action for the sake of an action that is not understood. and what russia has been doing lately, well, starting from the 14th year, it looked like there was a certain strategy and they needed ukraine and they tried to capture us with the so-called soft power, but now they are reaping the fruits of this thoughtlessness of strategic stupidity yes, there are such strategists, koval stretch, i.e. stretching, stretching strategically, i.e. russia is really abandoned , it cannot appear as a great power. unfortunately , the best ukrainian sons died, but on the other hand, daughters too. i apologize. especially on march 8 today, i mean that demographic russia has lost its chance to rise and emerge as some serious power. and this stupidity that putin committed on february 24 simply puts an end to