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, well , i think that the information agenda is already being picked up by our colleagues. good day and good health today, march 8, the 378th day of the heroic defense of the ukrainian people against the russian occupiers . ukraine is preparing for a major offensive. of western weapons has turned from a stream into a river, the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine reports that during the past night, the aviation of the village of borony has struck seven strikes on the areas where the occupiers are concentrated, and our defenders have shot down an enemy unmanned aerial vehicle of the orlan 10 type, the russian occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of march 8 , russia has already lost 155,5030 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 700 orks with the beginning of the great war

, the russians have already lost 436 people in ukraine tanks 6,723 armored combat vehicles 2,463 artillery systems 488 rocket launchers 253 anti -aircraft defenses 303 aircraft 289 helicopters 53,110 vehicles 18 boats boats 873 cruise missiles 2,098 drones 236 units of special equipment about the maidan in georgia as georgia tries to fight pro-russian forces in the country about the behavior of lukashenka , who yesterday called president zelensky a nit. well

, we will talk about the dergs attacking russia and belarus today in the in the next hour i want to introduce today's first guest - this is oleksandr khara, diplomat, expert of the center of defense strategies, mr. oleksandr. good day. good health to you and i am glad that you joined our broadcast. good day to everyone , mr. sergey. it is very nice to be on your broadcast . let's start our conversation with protests. in georgia, a restless night passed in tbilisi , protesters took to the streets of the georgian capital and tear gas and water cannons were used to disperse them, we know that there is an action in georgia against the adoption by the parliament of the law on foreign agents, in the footage that you see now, the crowd is blocking rustaveli avenue and the police are using water cannons, the protesters are holding the flags

of georgia and the european union, and as reported by the georgian mass media, the clash continued until late at night, later the police pushed the protesters away from the parliament building the participants chanted ukrainians know the song slogan about putin well, the president of georgia salomeu-robashvili confirmed the protests and supported the protests and said that the country did not need the law on immigrants and assured that she would veto the initiative. commission the venice commission knows very well what kind of law this is, i said from the first day that i would prepare

it, we don't care about its article-by-article discussion, we don't care about its similarity to some old american law, which we know very well that it serves completely different purposes. oleksandr, let's explain to our tv viewers what is happening in georgia, and how it can affect the russian-ukrainian war , considering that georgia has so far held quite a of ukraine and in all matters related to the support of ukraine, the official tbilisi tried to keep some neutrality, at least not to make sharp moves towards russia. they see what is happening there, and now i have two quotes

in front of my eyes. the first is mr. slutsky, the head of the committee of the so-called state parliament of the russian federation . he says that the parliament of georgia is represented by the people of the country, showed independence without looking back at washington and brussels. waiting for the solution demanded by society and protecting national sovereignty and independence, well, of course, if we hear this russian novoyas, we understand what is meant by a completely different or such a well-known fascist primakov is the son of another fascist primakov, we can see whether participation sticks out behind political processes, it is clear that the draft law , which, as it were, is called to protect the national interests of the state and to show uh-uh, it means that those sources of funding for independent or non-governmental

organizations seem to be good, such an idea was tacitly understood that a better society to know about it, but taking into account that well, if we know how the russian federation operates, that it is not a transparent system of financing its fifth columns in other states and ukraine, we are on our own it was tried on themselves, it is clear that for them this law would definitely not be extended to them, they would have the opportunity to support how they are currently operating in the post-soviet space . thank god they are no longer in ukraine and support their fifth column. institutions that help georgia on its way, primarily european and atlantic integration, it is completely unexpected that the bill was introduced by the so-called people's power movement

, which absolutely repeats all the clichés and stereotypes russian propaganda and it is clear that this is not an objective force, let's say, such a force that would really like such a balanced law that would allow society to look into the financing of these non-governmental organizations . well, it is clear that if mr. slutsky says about the will of the people, then we see now on the screen the will of the people, that's right, we got some handful of 10 students there or something. it's quite a powerful, powerful force. actually, we see two important points, well, the first is the most important thing that we always have to remember if the secret was the country of free people and they showed it more than once when they stood up against the russians or those who, er , lead the state and lead them in a different direction, and now we see the same thing. well, the most important thing is that

really russian influence has increased and the possibility of actually moving the country towards the european union and nato is decreasing, and this is the most important thing that worries these people. we have seen them and heard advertising and america's conditions. i apologize for the reaction of americans and europeans. a day for democracy well, of course, the europeans say that this complicates the path to europe for this country and actually. that's why now we see how the living soul of a free people who wants to be in the family of free nations is fighting and russia's efforts to, well, actually complete this let's say what they call color revolutions, this wave of people to the point of living in a free state and they want to strengthen their influence. well, of course, such a picture works very well in russia, to show what you see. this is the cia, the fbi, this cookies

nuland eh we have stability here and what does it all lead to look at ukraine because of course they constantly say that ukraine is the one to blame to the washington regional committee, other things that are actually not interested in the stability of these states, and georgia also serves as an example of this , of course, that the ukrainians are on the side of the people of the secret world, of course. we would like to see that this issue is resolved and not there were victims so that there would be no maidan in our understanding of the sad 14th year. we would definitely like to see all of these fifth columns out of office and probably better as fugitives, as well as certain ukrainian officials and deputies who are now in moscow. we see, mr. oleksandr, that now

georgia is fighting georgians are fighting pro-russian influence and the pro-russian government and those forces that are trying to actually duplicate these decisions that the state duma of russia adopts there , this means in relation to foreign agents and introduce georgia, respectively, in its own way, a year ago, more precisely, in may 2022, the president of georgia, salometro rabishvili, stated that ukraine will not use the war in ukraine to return its territories captured by russia by military means, and then several more times. this statement was also duplicated and it was said that we were not going to develop anything and chanted in abkhazia so that the people who live there should not worry, but still, considering the prospects of the collapse of russia and the prospects

of the return of the territory occupied by russia the federation means, including abkhazia and ossetia and the transnistrian republic of moldova, it has not been recognized uh-uh, to what extent is the opening of a second front, conditionally speaking , by the post-soviet countries that are currently suffering from the occupation of the russian federation . to what extent can this perspective be opened, i mean that uh- e georgians will understand that perhaps the time has come to reclaim those territories that were occupied by the russian federation, because if i am not mistaken in the georgian measurement, this is 30% of the territory. well, you know, you still forgot about the northern territory japan, which was not arbitrarily captured by the soviet union and is receiving russia, means of course that we would like this

chimera to be torn to pieces and of course that it did not pose a threat primarily to those subjects of the russian federation who suffer primarily yes in these soldiers who russia has been leading for centuries, well, especially the liberation that is relevant for us now. here, but i understand that , let's say, the uprising that was uh, well , actually during the time of miho, eh? it can hardly be expected. i think that there is a certain kind of skepticism regarding the ability of the georgian armed forces to solve this issue well, you don't know yet definitely we say that we have already won our war, although in fact not to the end, that is , putin was not able to destroy our statehood that ukraine's identity is fighting but the final victory is not yet in sight and definitely what does this mean that we should not relax, of course our neighbors

see all this and they understand that this beast is not yet destroyed, it is only wounded. but it has the ability to continue this war. i think that they have such calculations as in georgia, which is more or less a fighting country with a fighting spirit and which, in principle, would be capable of inflicting painful defeats on the russians in the occupied territories. unfortunately, i think that there is simply no such possibility in moldova, despite the fact that in the occupied temporarily occupied territory of transnistria there are no powerful forces that could do something, but on the other hand, moldova does not have the ability to do anything, and we see these swings that are currently happening in moldova, this is an attempt by the special services to shake the state when

it cannot capture it and unconditionally threaten ukraine, our cock of the dial, this is an extremely sensitive , sensitive, let's say, direction for us, and we would have to divert certain forces and means of the armed forces of the defense forces in order to prevent any negative actions there from that side therefore, unfortunately , we have such neighbors. unfortunately for ukraine. of conflicts since we tried to play, especially if we are talking about transnistria, to play the role of an impartial mediator, very often our actions and position coincided with the russian ones. well, i am already talking about the corrupt component in the south that did not allow us to make certain decisions that could suppress this enclave russian on the territory of transnistria. in other words, we are reaping such fruits in principle. well , by the way, the same can be said about the failed

policy of the last uh, well, i would say even ten years in belarusian directly, we will not go deeper into history and now we hear that in the announcement they said about the fuhrer of the belarusian measure and about how he insulted our president who pretends to be such an impartial or friend of ukraine who does not seem to do anything bad and does not want to join this war although in fact from the point of view of international law and the games of ukrainian legislation, belarus is the same aggressor country as the russian federation, in fact, we are now reaping the fruits of the failures of our foreign policy eh after the previous years not only eh let's say so

the last one is the beginning of a large-scale invasion. let's talk about lukashenka, if you already remember him, because yesterday the self-proclaimed president of belarus , e. spoke insultingly about the ukrainian president and declared that he should not be drawn into the war with the word eh, let's hear what exactly lukashenko said and what i somehow thought that ukraine needed peace, that zelensky was fighting for his people president zelensky is just a nit, just a nit, such operations are not carried out without coordination. with the leader of the country, the commander-in-chief of this, i say that the president is a nit , because he runs around belarus, he sends people to us and asks, as i already said, let's

conclude again, not an attack, let's agree between us and you there are no problems , what i said , we are not going to attack. applications and at this time well, what is the challenge? roshen , i’m counting today, i know that they want to drag us into a war on the command of the americans . you are mistaken, uh, this belarusian cockroach , if you use his terminology together with the kremlin's mollio they are trying to kill and destroy the ukrainian state now, but for the second time publicly lukashenko mentions some kind of pact

that kyiv is trying to conclude with him about non-aggression, and frankly speaking, i am lost in guesses as to what kind of non-aggression pact this is, especially in the context of the fact that belarus is participating in this war in and has actually been a participant in the russian-ukrainian war on the side of moscow since february 24, 2022 . tell us about the pact that lukashenko constantly talks about. he constantly repeats the non-aggression pact that zelenskyi wants to make with lukashenko . does this story exist at all, apart from what lukashenka is saying? regime they very often resort to prehistoric parallels and the very word pact we have is different than ribbentrop’s young one cannot

evoke anything, i can assume that before the invasion uh-uh, when it was clear that this could happen, maybe there were some uh-uh some negotiations took place and they tried to prevent mr. lukashenka from giving his territory to the invasion. but i remember very well how the minister of defense of ukraine responded to his visa to belarus, to whom he assured that there would be no attack from belarus and actually trust after that, when the tanks of these orcs went to kyiv with the territory of belarus, there is absolutely no trust in this impostor , he is raging not because of the fact that zelensky is asking him for something, and is there some kind of deception, absolutely no, definitely, he is flying with a lead

to the point that we are capable of, let's say, shake his regime, and we have a large number of belarusians fighting on our side , who are a direct threat to him, this is not a sham. so to speak those who are now fighting in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine with the citizenship of belarus, they are a threat to him and it is certain that he is constantly trying to restrain ukraine in supporting such movements in supporting the opposition . it seems to me that he partially succeeded in it's a pity that we as a state did not publicly express ourselves about the issue .

by all means, organizational, financial, and ideological in that sense, because we understand that as long as belarus is under the influence of such a person, an impostor who despises the interests of belarusians and the national interests of belarus, sells the national interests of its neighbor, and even more so, god forbid , it will be occupied and absorbed to the russian federation actually. that is why we have to be more proactive here. but in this speech, his investigator has a positive thing that he , er, let's say yes, well, it is referred to and definitely there the cia, i don't know the fbi, who are there other conspirators pushing ukraine , thank god that he made the right conclusion that belarus and the belarusians do not need to fight with ukraine , because he said that i want to suffer in a hurry, not the failure of those who want to drag the war into belarus, it is already in the war, but without a moment we are not interested as a state, what is ukrainian society, we

are interested in belarusian citizens crossing the borders and starting to fight with us . that will not give the belarusians anything. and they cannot win this war, they can just stick around to this train, or to the titanic, which is already confidently going to the bottom, i don't think that the belarusian people need this p oleksandr what do you think, after these public dirty insults on the part of lukashenka, should the ukrainian authorities , and in particular volodymyr zelenskyy, meet with the leaders of the belarusian opposition, including svetlana tikhonovska how do other leaders of democratic states in the west do it and support the belarusian opposition because they understand that they still need to rely on someone in the future regarding the republic of

belarus why does the ukrainian government take such a position some kind of strange position well, not because food products continue to go from there, food products, bitumen for road construction and something else there, why is the ukrainian government somehow not let's say so, it is torpedoing this story according to the belarusian position, it does not show who our government is for i would like to see the future , especially since the official kyiv did not recognize the powers of the president of the self-proclaimed president lukashenko in 2020. well, you know it's some kind of mess that fell to zelensky because you remember very well that the previous president was criticized for not severing diplomatic relations with the russian federation, and now we still have an embassy in minsk. although i see absolutely no sense, these people cannot perform their functions because they are under a strict counterintelligence e-e regime, and it

is also understandable that any of their contacts pose a threat to any normal belarusians because they are monitored let's put it this way: the protection of the interests of our citizens is not a question, because the break of diplomatic relations does not mean the automatic break of consular relations, and therefore our consul could absolutely remain there, but politically there is no connection. i think that this should have been done a long time ago. moment regarding the opposition i absolutely agree and it seems to me that this is an absolutely correct opinion, but i think that ukraine should become a platform and such an initiator of the unification of the entire opposition and its strengthening in including, once again, i want to remember those fighters who are fighting now not only for the independence of ukraine, for our freedom, but also for their freedom . it seems to me that they should also be

present there and there are other representatives, that is, not only tikhanovskaya, which is er, let's say yes formal hm is recognized by the western world as a legitimate representative of the belarusian people. but there are other representatives who fought the regime for a long time . they gave not only the fate of the will to the will. i apologize. we could be the initiators could be a platform where all the representatives of the anti-nazi anti-fascist regime of putin lukashenko could find a certain platform to change the opinion of their fellow citizens together and in the future they would definitely lead an independent belarus and definitely ukraine this old idea should work, it’s from the time of george bush, uh, europe is whole, uh

, that means in peace and on the other side, yes , that is, without belarus , moldova, georgia. the continent cannot be, in principle, that is why we are interested in democracy winning in belarus, and that is exactly why we have to make efforts to unite the disparate opposition, give them a platform to help, what can we do to help and we have a lot of things, we are very similar, we have already arrived the path that the belarusians still have to go through. i absolutely agree with regard to such a step. we should have already prepared and made it on the air. meanwhile , the disintegration of the empire of reformatting is already heard more often on the broadcasts of russian propaganda channels. the system of international relations, and volodymyr serlovyov is already talking about it, he says the question of how to get out of this war, because no one from russia

intends to negotiate, let's see solovyov, everything that is happening absolutely corresponds to the collapse of great empires, which was modern antiquity, an inevitable war between the fragments of the disintegrating empire, nisbirnye v tygy no this war with the neighbors is not inevitable. here is the reformation of the entire space and system of international relations. it is simply inevitable. we are actually paying for it now. a terrible price for the treacherous stupidity of the last soviet and first russian leaders. this is how we will get out of this war. this is what is very important. we generally understand what a terrible threat looms over our country

. what did putin lead to and what he wants to do with russia, but he did not name putin here. he said that the first leaders of russia and avoided the name of putin. because putin has been in power for 20 years, i mentioned those who led to the collapse of of the soviet union, this is the scenario that solovyov and oleksandr are currently describing. how quickly do you think it will be implemented and are the correct conclusions already drawn by him, well, first of all , you know, i keep saying that russia is already a fascist state, and i refer to er, in fact, the definition of obert eco and there is a very important point that this is an action for the sake of action that is not understood . and what russia did in the last years, well, starting from the 14th year, it looked like there was a certain strategy and they needed ukraine and they

tried to use soft power to us called seize, but now they are reaping the fruits of this thoughtlessness, stupidity, strategic yes, there is such strategicism, that is, stretching, stretching, uh, strategic, that is, russia is really abandoned, she cannot appear as a great power. unfortunately, her best ukrainian sims are dying, but on the other hand, uh, identities. on march 8, today, i mean that demographic russia has lost its chance, let's say, to rise up and appear as some serious duck. and actually, this is the lip service that putin committed on february 24, it simply puts an end to this how quickly it is difficult to say, because first of all, we do not have objective information about what is happening in the russian economy . we should definitely not rely on some alternative russians, good russians, who