tv [untitled] March 9, 2023 10:30am-11:01am EET
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[000:00:00;00] problems and voicing them and roz and solving them - this is the grown-up way and not burying your head in the sand and saying let's do it later, somehow , after the victory , we will deal with all of this. we continue our ter and er-e actually further we have er-e about security actually which is also in the cultural field on the book market as far as er material of viktor kruglovy general director of kharkiv publishing house. in the morning, we will talk with him about the importance of literature, about the importance of supporting the literature of books produced by the law that president zelenskyy had to sign a year ago to ban
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all russian books in ukrainian . that there were, in my opinion, 300 votes, it’s just that the president can’t not sign it, they’re not legal, then it’s not in essence, well, actually now, victor, and we’ll ask her about it, we know what’s at what stage or is there is the signature already there or not? we are still waiting for it on our airwaves . in the meantime, they are bringing you up to speed on what kind of losses ukraine has suffered as a result of missile attacks . more and more new information is appearing about it. they are reporting that trains are delayed due to shelling reports that
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kharkiv is now without electricity, heating and water , the governor of the bryansk region of the russian federation, bogomaz, reported that they managed to shoot down a ukrainian drone today , the drone was destroyed, he said that it was an aircraft type, operative services are working on the spot other deputies were taken by accident and this one can be anything, but i like to think that in fact we respond to their attacks with our own attacks and it is also so nice and nice and it will only get stronger and more powerful every time out yevhenii balitsky is a former ukrainian deputy politician a now the traitor of the ukrainian people and collaborator of the ukrainian people panics and declares that ukraine has gathered a huge group in the armed forces grouping, so to speak, the armed forces of ukraine have gathered huge
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troops of the zaporizhia region and he is worried that a large-scale offensive of the ukrainian army is about to begin. well, a serious one tells about such things, says that we are already preparing two lines of helmeted frantic defense, that's what he says, well, in a word, he said that they are preparing, but uh, i don't know. we still haven't learned everything yet, not all the challenger tanks have arrived yet, not everyone has handed over those things to us. so the baliskas are fine, calm down, you can reign there for another month, so not this one, don't waste time , but then we will definitely find you, we will get you i don't doubt that either, gentlemen, apart from all that, i'm still talking about the consequences of these shellings, unfortunately in dnipropetrovsk oblast due to
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an enemy attack, er, russians are dead and wounded too. well, in lviv oblast, as you know , five people died as a result the hitting of a russian missile with russia, well, i'll say something new again, why don't we celebrate march 8 in the moscow way, because march 8 is killed like maslenitsa kills, you know , muscovites die every year because they eat their flatbreads without filling , which they don't know they're doing it there do a that’s it. it’s the same since eight march. one shot someone there because he didn’t share something there because of march 8. the story is broadcast by russian television. the muscovite fell out of the car and crashed after a quarrel with a girl after a gift on march 8.
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- but he quarreled, he didn't bring her a surprise, the beloved didn't like the surprise, and he got so upset that he fell out of the window and crashed to death, god . that's the story , the surprise , there is information. was pregnant here's the story, they found him already there, well, down there, in a word, the story is vague, but what do these gifts for march 8 do, you understand what all this leads to , the elephant russian peace - it always leads to the bank kills in the literal and figurative sense of the word kills and destroys our cultural heritage in our historical monuments. and the actual destruction of these architectural monuments is also the work of the occupiers. let's see
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what we are losing because of them. kyiv is a city of architectural eclecticism and chaotic construction. unfortunately, every year the capital loses buildings that have historical value, so on the verge of disappearing the shults brewery with a two-hundred-year-old tradition of brewing, which is located in the area of the demiivka market . demiivka was already a village outside the city. the first industrial enterprises began to appear, and one of the first known from 1809 was this industrial enterprise , that is, as it was a brewery and a brick factory , it belonged to different persons, but already in 1965 it was first rented by henry schulz, a prussian subject, the brewery belonged to the german schulz family until the beginning of the first world war, the complex was first handed over to the management
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, later nationalized by the bolsheviks, but they continued to produce beer here, the last batch was produced. in 2003, during the independence period, the brewery was purchased by the sarmat company , which was part of the holding they bought out the businessman pina and akhmetov for the production of beer , but then they refused everything and for 20 years there were plans to build an office complex here but nothing happened, historian and local historian anton korop emphasizes this complex, the unique preservation of buildings in which the production process took place, brewing workshops, a malting plant, a drying tower, residential buildings for employees and the house of the owner himself, this place 20 years ago could have become a tourist magnet, and a private brewery could be built somewhere there
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can the museum, beer, restaurants put something under the offices , that would be a tourist highlight, an interesting point of thought, because we know all these beer brands. there are 1,700 borders, they are lviv beer 10 to 15 years old, all of us, all of them, these producers are proud of traditions, that is, they all have a long history in their production, this is a brand, as it were, three. and in our company, these are the oldest enterprises, podilsky brewery and demiivsky brewery , they are no longer they are working so that this city tradition has been interrupted. our sign of the building was not just restored. and they started dismantling it two years ago. they completely dismantled one building, one of the oldest. it is not visible from here. it was visible a little, so to speak, even a couple of months ago. it has been noticed that this dense tower is being dismantled, the territory itself is under protection in this area, there are no permits for
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any construction work, so the question is also and not only in the destruction of the historical object. the question is that it is in general in the nature of construction works without original documentation, that is, who carries out these works on the basis of what, hmm, what is planned to be built, in fact, today the owner of the buildings is a charitable foundation, and the user of the site is a charitable foundation, but the question is whether a charitable foundation can handle construction activity, according to the legislation, charitable foundations cannot have any other type of activity except their direct type of charitable activity, well, charity , although this complex does not have the status of a historical monument. it is located in a historical cultural area, but even buildings with such a status are in some places not in the best condition, in particular this one a unique complex on baikovy hill, the bacteriological
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institute was built in 1896. in just six months and exclusively at the expense of patrons , kyiv at the end of the 19th century suffered to leave epidemics of various diseases, it was mainly cholera, it was connected with the low quality of drinking water, drinking water was taken from the dnipro, it was not purified enough to quell these epidemics, then on the left, they formed a society to fight against these infectious diseases already in the press building at that time called the palace of science, because the best architectural decoration could be boasted, except for the opera house, there is also a complex in addition to the so-called palace of science of the central bacteria institute, which has been preserved beautifully in the ideal. that is, there is uh inside even historic chandeliers, i mean, the plaques on the eyes are marble, there are plaques, we have a gilded inscription that the building was laid
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down for at that time, it is also beautiful, this is a lobby, a columned hall with a glass roof and tiles laid out with four ornaments, four small mittland tiles from the berling game factory in the 80s of the last century restoration works were carried out here, and already during the time of independence, the territory became private property, the beneficiary of which is the pharmaceutical company biopharma, the owner of which undertook to repair and to restore the building, a corresponding contract was concluded with the department of cultural heritage protection of the pmda, but the repair work has not started since 2020. kyiv city council, how about a participant in the vidoura , the party to the contract could define a term , for example, there 3 years, 5 years, 10 years, let it be 10 years, but it ends in 10 years everything has not been restored, the monument is being taken by the city
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, it is looking for a new investor who will be able to carry out the restoration, the other buildings of this complex do not have the status of monuments, so the owner can dispose of them at his discretion in 1900 according to the project of the engineer bek, three buildings were built for the residence of infectious patients, this is one of them brick, there is another one, and one of them was wooden, this is one of the rare examples of wooden construction, that is , once upon a time, kyiv was ancient, there were many houses in the center until some in general, wooden houses predominated in kyiv until the 17th year. and now they are single, and taking into account the vulnerability of the material, that is, its durability, which must be protected, and this building, until recently, housed a pharmacy for dozens of years, well, everyone remembers to be the pharmacy is now under threat of destruction, i.e. there are talks that there will be new construction here, as of today, the legislation does not provide for an effective mechanism for the protection of historical
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buildings that are privately owned , only about 120 buildings are included in the list of cultural heritage that are threatened with destruction or destruction, often for the owner, the land plot is much more valuable than a historical monument on it, that is why the building is deliberately brought to a state of emergency, in fact, some real mechanisms to oblige to do something with the property with the monument what do you have is owned, it is quite difficult, so only attention should be paid to such processes, especially today, when society's attention is primarily focused on the war crimes of the russian occupiers. well, friends, let's talk about shevchenko now, because today is taras hryhorovych's birthday. on social networks, everyone
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posts some of their favorite poems from the works of our kobzar, some of his prophetic words are mentioned, and in the meantime, we will also talk about him now, why shevchenko, who bozna was born. when it is still relevant, and what's more, during the full-scale invasion, it became such a symbol of the resilience of the courage of ukrainians . remember, at least. hmm, that monument is shot through. it is very symbolic in borodyanka , if i'm not mistaken, remember. at least how the russians er right away tried to take shevchenko's monuments from those cities . where did they come, remember at least and when they realized that fighting shevchenko is futile, then you have to sign his russian poet er, about that about the phenomenon actually shevchenko about him
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relevance about this later, well, now we are watching the plot when in early april the ukrainian army entered the liberated borodyanka, what was seen shocked the bodies of the dead in the middle of the street, high-rise buildings were completely destroyed , armored vehicles and civilian cars were burned. and on the central square, taras shevchenko's chest was shot, the bullets went off, maybe it was chaotic fire, but it is just as likely that the occupiers deliberately shot at the sensitive temple of the poet they hated forever. his chest became one of the symbols of this war for the occupiers. shevchenko is a symbol of everything ukrainian which must be either destroyed or stolen at the end of december, the bloggers published a photo of the monument to the kobzarevs in occupied luhansk with a plaque with a russian two-headed bird and the false inscription russian poet two years before the start of the full-scale invasion, the occupiers took the name of shevchenko from the luhansk national university and bas-relief at the entrance to the vesu , it was simply smashed at the beginning of 2023. to fight
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the occupation authorities of melitopol at night, the invaders dismantled the monument to the poet in the center of the city . it is unknown where it was taken because of aggressive supporters of putin, monuments to shevchenko are now in danger not only in ukraine, where they can at least be protected with a frame and sandbags , and in the summer of 2021 in copenhagen, a monument to the poet was vandalized with a russian tricuror, and already during a full-scale invasion in the serbian place of novi sad near shevchenko with "the rashi letter z appeared, that's how shevchenko gives peace to the russians, being long deceased , it doesn't matter if they fight with him, bohdan shubolov, or the art historian joins us, we'll actually ask him why why the russians still they are afraid of shevchenko and why are they still trying to fight with him hmm mr. bohdan
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good morning good morning congratulations well, actually, what if they suddenly can't tame shevchenko, at least they sign him as a russian poet what does he not give peace of mind more than that in soviet times well, they praised shevchenko and put them in textbooks on literature, although not all of her poems, but where shevchenko wrote about the tsarat, which was in the hands of the soviet authorities. but you are absolutely right. shevchenko was chosen by the soviet authorities by the ukrainian soviet authorities as such a main symbol the main symbol of resistance to tsarism, accordingly, he went as an important image of support for the enslaved, that is, ukrainians as conditionally enslaved slaves there, and he as a voice of liberation . this scheme is quite alive, that is, you could say that we somehow decommunized there, but this scheme is alive because it is strong enough, it is anti-iberian and it is anti-colonial here. if
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i make a small distinction, but they are like that, and because of this actually, if you look at the russian well, the last period of russian history . they are trying to revive the empire. well, and accordingly, any poet, writer, artist who is anti-imperial, he does not fit into the framework, and therefore he will be attacked, he will be destroyed because he is against the empire, he gives great symbols anti-imperial, eh. according to my observations, if before march 9, until 2022 , it was, well, someone i wrote there that it was shevchenko's birthday, but these were isolated cases. if you open my tape now, of course, it is not representative, because there are some journalists , political activists and historians, that is, people who, one way or another, have shevchenko there for them.
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something so important, but everyone today, whether it’s a portrait of shevchenko or some mural or some poems about the figure, and even oleksiy arestovich was born with a post about shevchenko . i don’t know if he is getting some views, the number of subscribers is decreasing, and listen, he is trying to figure out who wrote such words shevchenko for himself and he says that shevchenko has his own explanation of the shevchenko phenomenon, that shevchenko is a deep person whose meaning in world culture cannot be calculated, but can be understood . it's a matter of handing out a personal wi-fi. but he, uh, well, i replaced it, yes, he somehow started writing the last one in ukrainian. although he clearly emphasizes that he is a russian-speaking ukrainian who has the right to speak and write in russian , but i also noticed his tendency to write illiterately in ukrainian, and this
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post, by the way, too. i saw it, it’s such an image for young people. that’s how i understand it, that is, i sometimes. when i want to explain the phenomenon of an artist to young people there, i say a similar image , for example, that he has a flash drive that he connects to some kind of cloud of meanings, and with the help of such a flash drive, understanding and meaning flows into him. i think he also uses a similar metaphor here, as if this is something very strong and he is right here, so the time just shows that shevchenko can be different for different generations and this shows his strength, greatness, and since he is big, he is really like something that distributes this fai, that is, everyone can connect and get their
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own meaning. experience. my parents, who were born immediately after the war in 1946, they definitely knew a lot of shevchenko by heart. their friends and sisters, when my whole family gathered , they all knew something by heart. there was a part of education, a part of the conviction that shevchenko is our very important figure in the poet. he is not only a poet, but that is, he is something more already in my generation, and it dissipated quite a bit because there was no tension of the anti-colonial anti-iperian struggle. for example, when we did in shevchenko's evenings, it was a bit artificial as you say we didn't quite understand why yes well, if we understood that he was important but again, there was no actualization and remember the maidan , he is actually reactivated on the maidan in the 13th and 14th years, his anti-colonial
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message becomes like this, wow, he said all this back in the 19th century, and because of this, from the moment we are waging an anti-colonial anti-iberian war, he will be very important, he is like a prophet, almost like that, that is, because of this, the russians will destroy him, we will take care of him, and of course it will be quite difficult for the children again convey which, god forbid, will live not in the context of the anti-imperial war there, we want it to stop happening, but here is this aspect that he is a poet and an artist, a ukrainian who lives in the empire and articulates a very clearly anti-imperial position for us, it is now very important this this is his image and that is why even arestovych calls him deep , that is, he cannot get anywhere from this, because
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it is really impossible to find a stronger character in ukrainian history today , well, actually, it is important for me to understand whether shevchenko remains relevant because for more than 100 years he really was some kind of uh, well, not even just, not just, even a national poet, but some kind of holy ukrainian canonized absolutely, well, that's exactly why there were all those works about shevchenko and grabovych's canon and so on. god, how was he, that shevchenko was a vampire or a werewolf? yes, there were different attempts to deconstruct it in different directions . it was so bronzed by shevchenko. i always remember, i remember how these monuments to shevchenko were, where he was always like that the mustache is like that and it's me. he wasn't like that, actually. it was a bit like that. it was a made-up image that he himself didn't like. it wasn't people. i decided to always
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remember that in chervonograd, as soon as the national revolution won, the first thing they did it because they renamed that soviet institution into a ukrainian house and put a monument to shevchenko next to it, and since they probably made the same scooters to make sculptures of miners before that, it seems that this was the first in ukraine shevchenko was a bodybuilder, that is, he was naturally dry, so he remained like that but that's all for me it turned out to be a good metaphor, you know. well, you're right, shevchenko often looks like lenin there, like other leaders of the ukrainian ssr, and because, well , many people have already told me about this , because he is. to this populists and the imagination of the 19th century, but actually the communists and the soviet government contributed a lot to this, and
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since they took him as such a character of the struggle to become so, they specially purged everything else shevchenko who drinks a lot of alcohol shevchenko who is in love with by many women, shevchenko, who is a romantic and often does incomprehensible things, and this all had to be somehow taken away and thrown away , shevchenko , a hooligan, shevchenko, a motherfucker, shevchenko. monuments, we have such a dummy , yes , that is , such a lenin who thinks nothing more than the revolution and the struggle against the empire. well, this image.
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the latest films about shevchenko, they were made back in soviet times, and there he is like that, a bronze wrestler, yes, but in the post-soviet period, as you say, there was no such demand for his figure. i think that if comics were made without him, shevchenko is like that he is different for young people in comics and came up with inventing some different stories for him. he could sew in a different way, but it seems to me that this war will change our imagination so much , well, in general, culturally, that i hope that other views on shevchenko will appear. of course, we have already seen how these warriors are they are gathering to cry and these are almost like his prophetic words and these shootings at him, that is, i think that he should turn from such a bronze wrestler into a living person who lives in the empire and creates a great myth for us, and
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we accept this myth there. we we don't want to have him, but we also want to value him as a person, er, lesya, i hope that after the war ends and we have a rethinking , at least it will be rethought in kanev, because there it is still very much in the soviet style, although it was already done in independent of ukraine, but still that shevchenko is such an old, er, grandfather in that skin and er, with some pathetic speeches, you are absolutely right about the fact that he is the image of him he he you constructed himself this one that he is in a coat and a hat and a whole series of photos about a lot is also written about how he is with his friends. they are all in awe, and he is photographed specifically in these clothes because he wanted it, you know, like a punk hippie gesture, yes, the type of artist who wants
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to emphasize that i am part of the slaves, yes conditionally with those people which no one sees and this chief was very strong, but he is, of course, irony, and there is a lot of it. he is a modern man , he broke out of slavery, he became a modern man, he won medals and awards for what he drew and did. that is, it is american, you could call it a self-made man and that is, he created something great from himself, and this is why we need to appreciate his power, ivan, or be able to change history and the contexts in which he is, you know, we have literally two minutes left , we can somehow manage to say the process was this attempt by shuster on the then intera channel but it was still under yushchenko, as if such a democracy , great ukrainians adapted british projects in ukraine, and we remember all these falsifications and so on, but it turned out that shevchenko - this was not the character on whom
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the audience bet on the ukrainian-speaking audience chose bandera at that time or from this, but here we are talking about the fact that everyone in your family could quote shevchenko by heart, but there are also millions of families where shevchenko could not be memorized. all and for for the east and for the west, i think that what you are saying about bandera is not accidental in this context, that is, it is not for everyone, it is an image that is easily accepted because the banner is associated with militarism and armed struggle. shevchenko. - yes, with culture and art, that is, the associative series are different, but his message is big and rise up, and still do, children, don’t sit back , he is supposedly proactive, but not militaristic, yes, that is, he is like that, i would say he is universal, you can now read him
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in the congo in the south america in africa actually he can give messages for different cultures well, of course, inside ukraine he can be reread in a new way, you just need to take away this soviet bronze part of shevchenko, so give him the opportunity to be a person, show him in his multidimensionality , that he is not perfect, he is a simple person who fights and wins and dies and that 's all now. thank you, mr. bohdane . now there will be news, what happened in ukraine in the last hour, angelica will tell you a season , angelica will give you a word, thank you very much, colleague in kherson, unfortunately, i died among peaceful people , i will also tell you detailed information about
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