[000:00:00;00] here are these myths that are layered and ours is layered and layered on the image of the great poet and taras shevchenko wrote before he was a man and how do we understand that this is the human essence in order for it to be closer to the youth so that it is closer to us ukrainians for every ukrainian it is necessary to show i think that's why you shouldn't make him an icon, but you shouldn't underestimate his unconditional talent and influence on ukraine of ukrainians of the past and today. talked to us about shevchenko, we will say goodbye to you and antin brokovsky, khrystyna yatskiv, and further chronicles of the information war with olga len, ah, congratulations, i am olga len - this is a chronicle of hostilities, and actually, the main event of this week is to continue the defense of bakhmut

, it is already going on more it's been eight months and at the beginning of the week such a decision was made, announced by volodymyr zelenskyi, that ukrainian troops are not retreating from bakhmut , continuing its defense, well, it's obvious that our enemies were waiting for some kind of capitulation well, this has not happened so far, but you are very difficult. and actually , we will talk about these battles today, besides, in other areas, the enemy is behaving very briskly , they are trying to attack, they are cremating near the matchmaker, and also under the coal they are constantly demanding the russians to advance there. well, actually , let's look at the chronicle of the hostilities over the last few days, the map of the hostilities for the period march 2-8 , a new line of defense is being built in the city at the bakhmut defense plant, all

the attention of the military and political leadership the country is chained to bakhmut because so many forces are concentrated in it and near it that errors in management can be fatal, the strategy of grinding the russians in bakhmut is now combined with the tactics of gradual withdrawal from certain areas of the city, which are already impossible to hold if the defense forces manage to detain the enemy in bakhmut month two , the ukrainian counteroffensive can significantly change the position of forces, in particular, on this part of the front, since the last days of february and until now, they have been gradually withdrawing from the eastern part of bakhmut on the left bank of the river bakhmutivka, at the moment, the defense force still holds a small part of the private sector in this part of the city, which is called zapammutka, but soon the river will become a continuous front line, as our troops retreat , they systematically blow up road and railway bridges behind them, at the same time due to the reduction of the area that needs to be defended, they also reduce the concentration of defenders withdrawing

part of it to another part of the front north of the city, the rashists renewed their offensive efforts on a cheerful division with the prospect of exit to seversk, however, on this part of the front, their efforts were too slow, on the contrary, the assaults on the outskirts were more threatening, vasylivka left, that is, the occupiers managed to advance half a kilometer along the road to sloviansk, but the most dangerous was the advance to cut the strategically important road from the temporary ravine to bakhmut through the village khromova here the enemy managed to break through a 2-kilometer corridor between the villages of bohdanivka and khromova and approach the logistics artery at a distance of less than a kilometer at the same time in the last few days, the offensive of putin's lyubs has slowed down a lot, because they are advancing through an open flat space, while our soldiers have occupied advantageous commanding peaks around the southern side of bakhmut, the burners have taken shelter in the residential quarters near the mariupol cemetery, and are also trying to break into the central part of the city

, moving to the right along the coast despite the bakhmutivka however, the rate of advancement through the dense urban development is very low, so the rashists can be stuck here for many months . moreover, the armed forces of ukraine from time to time conduct a successful counterattacks, such as recently south of ivanivsk in the direction of klishivka, thanks to this, it is possible that logistics remain through the kostyantynivka bakhmut highway, which again became the main donetsk vugledar, despite the desire of the russians to capture vugledar and break through to kurakhove in order to surround the armed forces holding the front line on the outskirts of donetsk, they are unable to do so it is already more than nine months after the biggest tank defeat in this war under ugledar, the occupiers are again trying to gather troops here for a new offensive. meanwhile, they are trying to press into in other directions in order to disperse our defense, so insignificant enemy advances were south of maryinka in the village of pobeda, as well as from the south and north of avdiyivka in the area of ​​vodyanyi

and krasnohorivka, luhansk region. during the month, we reported that the russians concentrated large resources in the luhansk direction, trying to break through to lymana however, after a month of continuous counterattacks, the armed forces of ukraine again began to push back the occupiers in the direction of the highway from svatov krimin, this is especially noticeable in the area of ​​the nevelsky red poppy everything will testify that even despite the incessant mobilization of the enemy, there is an acute shortage of human resources that are massively crushed in constant and meaningless infantry attacks, we are defeating the death of the enemy on a daily basis. so this is the general situation. let's talk in more detail with our guests: andriy illenko, officer of the freedom battalion of the national guard of ukraine, and oleksandra kovalenko, a military and political observer of information resistance i congratulate you , gentlemen, glory to ukraine, let 's start with you, mr. andriy, because you were in the area

of ​​bahmut, and actually this is the decision to continue defense in order for it to be successful and this further defense to be successful . what do you think should be done, how should we act in general in all situations ? at the level of our brigade of the fourth brigade of the operational assignment of the national guard, but i cannot speak from the point of view of strategic issues because it is simply wrong for the general staff and i am convinced that in more than a year of war, well everyone has already confirmed that there are competent people sitting there, the most competent in military terms that exist in ukraine and

probably even in the whole world , judging by the results shown by the ukrainian army, therefore they know exactly what they are doing , because if they continue the defense, then there is absolutely all reasons and this is the most effective option for the development of events that exist today. you understand what i want to say. well, the muscovites announced that they had taken bakhmut back in july. last year, these were the first statements of their so-called there are military personnel in various kilogram-channels and so on , they already said that this is bakhmut, in fact we have been there for a couple of days and that's all, but since then, how many months have passed, 8 or how many months, 9 months, and we see that they were gathering there, well, without exaggeration

tens of thousands of their soldiers , they lost a huge amount of artillery equipment there. when, in particular, there were such hot changes there, our svoboda battalion. continues to be this terrible meat grinder. i know this situation because , well, first of all, we were there in this direction, now our comrades with our brigade continue to be there, so i know the situation well enough in this regard, nothing has changed there, and therefore it is necessary to understand that in terms of professional efforts, despite the fact that the enemy of the cinema actually put a huge number of his personnel there, but still did not achieve any results, he was not able

to seize the city or surround it, yes, it is very a difficult battle for both of us is very tiring, unfortunately, but we will not allow the enemy to fulfill its strategic tasks and the enemy is sharpening its forces and continues to do so, therefore, of course, i believe that in this situation, the solutions adopted by the general staff are inadequacy and they are needed in order to further to displace the enemy and prepare for our future counterattacks, you can say , uh, like that fighter who was there and what would you like reinforcements in what plan, well, that is, to want to see more there, uh, in such a way. i would like to see the death star, of course, i don’t know what else there is in that style . well, of course, what do you understand about war

? we need weapons, and what we see, we see that today ukraine receives a lot of modern nato weapons, this is very good. of course , we would like it to be earlier. began to deliver not a year after the start of a full-scale war. and there were still a few years before the start of a full-scale war, this is all clear, but i think that after the ukrainians showed their incredible heroism and their insane will to win, and without a program after very well ukrainian diplomacy worked, after all, today we will receive these weapons and soon there will be such a factor that will have a very serious effect

on the situation in flanders, just as in its time the vornetlins had an effect at the very beginning of full-scale creation, as at one time they essentially changed the situation of high-mars, which completely destroyed and fenced off the exam. well, of course, a large number of modern western armored vehicles, e-e, this will also be considered for such factors as perlov will have for the consequences of this war, e-e, oleksandr well, look, there was such an opinion that even in our review that if we managed to hold on for another couple of months, it would cause such an interesting fracture . it could be used as an offensive. something like that in order to hold out for these couple of months, is it necessary there, or is it possible to wait there for the use of some of the same weapons that

the leopard geneticists were talking about, is that all, or is it a slightly different story, in which slightly different forces are used, if we say in general, you know about bogomolsk plast, not only about it, but first of all donetsk region, that is, it is exactly a defensive-type glazarem, defensive actions are being conducted there, and to say that there may be some kind of large-scale counteroffensive there in the near future or something else, there is no such possibility this is where the situation is. the russians tried to reach the administrative borders of the donetsk region, and in fact, they reduced their plans from the region itself, completely and completely, to the small town of bakhmut, well, a small town , in fact, and it is the main one for them.

today, the task is to capture this city and it is taking on a large amount of resources , therefore the very role of mahmut is precisely in taking on this resource as a trap for the russian occupiers, which does not give them the opportunity to firstly restore combat capability units that are located, for example, on other bridgeheads, in other locations, in other directions, and here there is even, it seems to me, you can even use such a term as the bahmut effect, and what kind of effect, here we are now , if we look, uh, to the south, ah, the left bank kherson region the zaporizhzhia region is currently the worst situation with units of the russian occupation forces in terms of staffing, they have the worst situation with personnel, the worst situation

in the entire combat zone with the staffing of each unit some technical divisions have a complete set of some nomenclature. well , for example, reactive salvo fire systems . they have a set of 30%. and so on in a different way and the problems with bbm tanks and so on why why is this happening on the southern bridgehead why is everything bad in them and because the restoration of the combat capability of the units of the forces and the means of all are primarily sent from russia and in the direction of the bakhmut bridgehead and therefore, in the near future, it will be and will continue to be a self-defense type of military action in order to continue all this charge and not give them the opportunity to use it in other directions

, again, which gives us the opportunity to carry out more effective counter-offensive actions. so, uh, new weapons such as well, also pants and also bm, don’t forget about them new types , they will be used very effectively - this is the m2 bradley striker and so on, all of this will be used exactly where it is necessary for the counterattack to be as effective as possible eh andrii, you must have heard about how evgeny prigozhin, the head of this cwc, wagner , complains and says hysterically that if they don't reinforce him immediately, literally in the next few days, they will have to lose their bahmuts there at three o'clock, then the ukrainian the army will be able to literally break through somewhere further there, but you can hear from your brothers what is the essence of this hysteria. they really do not allow artillery there, so why is this happening, how do you

assess it in general, uh, you know the question here it is actually a little deeper than pure military because, of course, russia has big problems with organization , management, logistics, eh, this is what this war has shown very clearly. but in fact , it seems to me that in addition to super military issues , there is a big political issue here, because, well, look at russia, a- and for a very long time she convinced everyone with her propaganda that ukraine is some kind of fake state, that there is a complete mess of anarchy, some microwave battalions that do not obey anyone, that the state has completely lost control over the monopolies on the use of force, and so on

well, it was all a lie, of course, but now let's look at russia , some uh, completely incomprehensible status, private armies that are not clear to whom they obeyed, that enter into a direct public conflict with the military leadership. we are even already with political construction. including a political game to imagine something similar today in the ukrainian army, it is impossible to imagine, and in russia it is today's reality and a striking example is the same shoes . personnel and many other things, accordingly, in this situation , we see that this degradation of the russian state, the degradation of russian society and the russian army, has led to the fact that, well, in fact, we already see the contours of a quite possible future civil war in russia, and assessments

of the conflict. by the military leadership, when they are hiding your game there, gerasimo, and when they tell that they are not given ammunition there in order to somehow limit one and the like, this all indicates that today, russia is slipping into the trap of absolutely the worst sense, children of the middle ages, and it is, in principle, already even this civil war, it is actually almost underway because well , when there is some armed group of people organized that allows itself there to publicly er, well, actually enter into a public conflict with by the military and political leadership there, it is essentially a civil war, and therefore i think that it is actually good. this indicates how big internal problems are in russia, including in

the military and political sphere, but this is of course does not mean that we just have to wait until we have a final quarrel and start shooting at each other, we have to do our own thing. and the fact that this will eventually happen in russia, i am convinced. i believe that one of the direct results of the military defeat of the final military defeat of the russians of ukraine was the civil advantage the war in russia, where there will be many franks, many directions of this war, and we will see something much more brutal than what happened even during the civil war that was in russia 100 years ago well, i will tell you that such an example is interesting in general of military and political opinion, you probably andrii will appreciate when the chairman of the state duma defense committee says that private companies should probably buy air defense complexes for their own protection , well, that is, but here it’s just here, i’m just wondering

how all these conflicts are in general, oleksandr to you or are they already in some way felt on the battlefield, that is, how they directly affect the battlefield, there is definitely an influence , that is, any army is a management system , it must act as a single unit, when there is , this is the internal one, let's put it this way, we know about the interdepartmental confrontation in russia, it is direct if we say now that his gerasimov is prigozhin , then it is interdepartmental, why because well, his gerasimov is actually the frunzen embankment - this is the ministry of defense of the russian federation prigozhin is a man of the fsb, that is, lubyanka, and thus there is an interdepartmental confrontation, but there is

also an internal confrontation in each department has its own, let's say, groups of influence that also conflict with each other, and the most striking example is that it seems that he is also a representative of the ministry of defense of russia federation, but this is a character in conflict with gerasima, the installation of the chest, and there you can see the relations are very complicated, why. because he is a representative of a completely different group of influence, and this directly affects the way the hostilities take place in general in the hostilities zone , the most vivid example of by the way, this confrontation is syria, or it was in syria that it was the largest. this is the reason. from the ministry of defense, it

was the wagnerites. of the personnel of a-and when this group advanced exactly in the direction of the rezor, then in the airspace near this city, american apache attack helicopters were working, then the americans, uh, gave a request to the russians because they communicate in syria, isn’t it yours, these units are moving in the direction of the rezor, the russians they answered no, it's not ours, because it was the ministry of defense of the russian federation, it's the military, no, it's not the military, well, in fact , that's what they said, and i see, then they destroyed this column with the wagnerites, then it was quite such a powerful scandal that there were many mass media about it they wrote, but the most interesting thing is that it was a one hundred percent basis. it was from the ministry of defense of a competing organization . let’s say so. pvk wagner and such a situation is now

observed, for example, even near bahmu . we all know about the tactics of pvk wagner, which was used by prigozhin, that is, he took from these prisoners in correctional colonies, he recruited them. and everything else after they were sent as live meat to soledar so that they would bombard soledar with their live meat, but who actually profited from this ? when it happened, first of all, the profit was exactly he is handsome, he won this great victory in this way, but what is happening now? and now there is already a pvk wagner is not a dominant element. he is not a monopoly, he does not have a monopoly on the conduct of hostilities. a monopoly who has a monopoly has 51 units. in relation to 106, so that on the airborne division

, that is, the airborne division, the regular troops of the ministry of defense, they now have a full monopoly of fighters there, but they are currently using pvk wagner in the same way that prigoljan did as we live, they send the yasa to til and on the first line, but the beautiful ones do not have any profit from this, and it does not affect their reputation in any way. therefore, they are now continued. this is how they are used as a banal element for disposal, that is, it leads to the fact that the resource it is used inefficiently and well and uh

, from this and their uh definitely slowing down the promotion of the defeat of fiasco and other problems. then the battalion fought vostok and such. well, in short, he is a traitor in essence, but he has been fighting all this time on the side of the russians . and he said that, well, in principle, the fact that prigozhin is complaining is the only problem for him that before he was in a privileged position, and now he is just like everyone else. and in this version, like everyone else, he can't fight. as it turned out, it's like this. i want to talk about this element because it's often said that it helps someone. it doesn't help someone. andriy, tell me from your experience or there is some influence of the weather in general on those battles that are going on around bahmut that is, will it be there, for example, there, more, more, more, more wet weather, does it stop, does it work, the russians, is it able to slow down who it is playing now, actually, the weather affects

the nature of hostilities very seriously, and it probably still affects the the side that leads the offensive, although in fact the defense should also lead, because anyway, even when you are on the defensive, you have a huge amount of equipment involved in the stage , which is constantly driving, which is constantly moving and it needs, er, or a road along which it can to move or solid ground on which it can move if the weather is wet when there is a solid swamp of course this greatly limits the possibilities of using any equipment starting from ordinary cars and ending with e-e tanks and all the rest therefore e-e weather in principle affects both sides are probably still more possible for those who lead us, but what is important

is that now, if we take the battle into account , then mainly there will now be infantry battles that take place at sufficiently close distances, and there are applications artillery that happens with well according to a certain rather large distance a-ah and you can't say that it somehow directly directly affects of course it very strongly affects directly the soldiers who are in the trenches because when there is knee-deep swamp it is very difficult well but accordingly, everything affects all sides, that is, well, this is just such a factor that must be taken into account, the only thing is that it is clear that when any large offensive operations are planned , they try to guess on their own. so it was a period

of dry weather a-a now we cannot say i don't know what kind of giant tank columns are going there. what kind of people are there? the battles will be mostly infantry. now these groups of infantry are relatively small. well , of course, there are artillery duels, but the weather is also here. well, in this place too, when the ukrainian troops were on the offensive, there was an opinion that he slowed down a little due to the fact that winter became difficult to move and, in principle, it became difficult to advance. now, in fact, he is trying there the russians are advancing and they are in a similar situation, they also planned their offensive actions in this small period of time when it was a little like something froze there, they started and

exhausted themselves to a certain extent and what is the situation there now, that is, what are you doing now that affects the possibility of the russian offensive in the area there, uh, the khvatov kreminnoy, but in these territories. and what about the uh, russians? well, first of all , they continue to accumulate their resources there , uh, the forces and means are gathering quite seriously. well, representatives of 50/7 are present there msd e-e 400 28 msp that is up to 124 msbr there are representatives of the bars akhmat of the 76th airborne assault division, that is, a large e-e quite an e-e large amount of forces and means but really they could not implement

offensive actions why because first of all terrain well, even if we talk about the freezing of the soil, then it should be more er, let's say more such large-scale er, more severe frosts should be because there is a lot of swampy terrain , especially in the direction in which they were supposed to go, for example, er put forward in the direction of the estuary and also carry out uh offensive actions in the direction of srebyanka uh there especially through the forest through the swamps, well , in fact, the weather conditions actually replaced this whole story with offensive actions and here during the waiting period ah the fact is that waiting also has the impact on combat capability and the potential for further advancement, yes , accumulation is indeed taking place, but at the same time, they are in a static position, and their uh,