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the blood of the enemy, and then i will leave everything and the fields and mountains and turn to god himself to pray, and before that i do not know god. i welcome you to the etheria espresso program for refugees with anzhelika sizonenko and today we will talk about how our ukrainian refugees live who, unfortunately , were forced to leave the homeland and seek a better fate, temporary shelter abroad , today we will talk about switzerland, a country of extraordinary landscapes, the most reliable banks in the world and the most accurate watches, and the heroine of this program will be svitlana sokol tereshchenko a this is the make-up artist svitlanko, i congratulate you, i am very happy to see you finally, i congratulate anzhe, to see how many people have been coming for more

than a year , yes, and we have already seen them, i am very happy , yes svitlana. to our other tv presenters, but unfortunately, the war forced svetlana and part of her family to move to switzerland, and i would like you to tell me about those first days at first. how did you meet? i know that a lot of people were in the basement, and your own child was very worried about this. we were worried and she was scared. yes, little girl, when we heard that there was some commotion outside the window, it was around 5 o'clock in the morning. our cat started to worry at this time. and the day before , we woke up outside the window and we ourselves know that people

started getting ready to leave. i'll be honest, we weren't prepared. to this situation, although at the moment we heard a lot about the possibility of a full-scale invasion, so we started running around the apartment , fussing and could not understand what to do , like most ukrainians at that time , we met the beginning of the war at home on the day that i had to go to work on the tv channel, which i did. i arrived and we were forced to interrupt the broadcasts anyway and all return home and i congratulate this moment because you did my makeup just before the broadcast and i just sat down on the live broadcast in order to replace my colleagues because actually i had a day off and we had to evacuate because there was just the threat of a rocket attack, this is what svitlanka is talking about and we all had to

return home again in these traffic jams because you remember the capital was simply overcrowded traffic jams, especially peremogy avenue, so after returning home with anna eva, also with a colleague, we arrived, drove, reached the left bank, and we began to decide. anna went to her place in brovary, we know the same situation there, and we began to decide where to go and we don’t have a bomb shelter in troeshchyna, i live in a park , there’s a parking lot in new buildings, we didn’t want to go. and what to do, where to go ? that's why my mother came to us my brother, here is a frame. yes, you show

it . this is how we lived. we lived in our garage for six nights. we had a kitchen in a room in such a small room. there were separate children. - first, it was incredible stress, which most of us all have, and we lived in the city of action, we were in this very garage, then we made a decision that it was very difficult for us to leave because the beer was reflecting over us next to the text er, in our area and we went our separate ways, that's how we met the war we went to different places in the dnipro, where we also stayed for two months before the very difficult decision was made to take the child abroad, but where were you during those two months before abroad, we lived in the country in the kyiv region well, i won't say where, probably, we have a small house in

the center of the city, but it's the center of the city and three sirens from different sides, there is an old sewing shop and there are also large buildings nearby, and the child couldn't stand it anymore and we were forced to give it to me mom , why don't you and dad save me, you know each other girls have already been transported by many children all over the world, from america to poland, we all know each other very well. but i hesitated for a very long time until the end . to go, but we couldn't hold back and we had to go, of course, all the more so when the child asks. usually, children are there even when it's scary, but they somehow want to be in the place where they're used to, let's say at home, but

the child was already so scared that he was even i am ready to go to a foreign country if only not to hear the sounds of these sirens, i understand completely, but why did you choose switzerland in particular, or have you been to this country before? who invited you there or was it an independent decision? we were traveling as a family, but to switzerland - no. and i thought it was possible to go to bulgaria. there is also an american visa. maybe to america, but it is not that far at all . it also seemed unreal to me, but my very good friend knows me. all the time while we were in the kyiv region. and at that time i also worked there at a poultry factory because i was invited to be a poultry house . well, here, too, such a separate story, she tells me to throw away those chickens, throw away the sheds, come here to switzerland, it is safe here, more or less

will provide you with something to start a new life with at the start until the full-scale invasion ends and the victory does not come, let's come here. well, my daughter has heard it all, and let's go, let's go, mom, there are also daughters, my girlfriend's daughter, and yet here i looked them up on the map, where is switzerland, but you ask me if i was, i tell my girlfriend where i am, and where is switzerland, it ’s unreal, but she just likes me. well, it is, she drew me here , and what is it? for the story of working at a poultry factory, why are you suddenly a make-up artist and decided to go there? some help was needed there, and a war broke out from the tacho factory. a lot of workers left the country and became vacant, and it so happened that i was offered. i

was under such stress and i could not imagine myself without work we all know that if you are engaged in an activity, especially if you love your work , then i had no idea because i was until june , the schedule is drawn what what will i do and here once, without a job, i was offered to work at a poultry factory, i did not hesitate, because we know, we remember what was the stress, it was unbearable to the point of physical shaking inside. i think i will at least somehow physically distract myself by doing something, and i work is actually a distraction. and here is the photo of our svitlanka with eggs. yes, there was such an experience. well, this happened in my life, in fact, every experience i think it is already valuable in switzerland, but tell me how you got there, because planes are expensive, or maybe the country paid for it, how

did you go there by bus, and how did you go there, yes, a plane, in any case, i had to cross the border of ukraine. we were currently traveling by train from kyiv to przemyśl this way i paid on my own, and then at the expense of those conditions for ukrainians, er, temporarily displaced refugees , we traveled for free. we traveled er , we traveled for free from przemyśl to zurich. at first, the chattel was, er, there in the shopping center, so you told me once that you lived or not, no, not in the chattel , it’s a refugee center, er, in another town for two , two or three days. we were there under such

a strict regime in uglagar, but it was good we were fed, and compared to the way we traveled on trains for two days , god led us in a straight line, well, in simple words, everything was smooth. the lager has already been given to us and housing and food and very, very quickly, they issued us the documents, this basic document of perm s, but not plastic, but only on a piece of paper, but already from the second day, eh. when we received it, we could already use insurance there and even transport, and they organized mobile phone right away communication, which is very important in our time. that is, we received all that you mentioned about mobile communication. i also have many friends who are currently in switzerland , refugees from ukraine have temporary shelter, and they said that switzerland even provided this for free

card, and there are free minutes paid for up to a year, calls to ukraine , yes, text messages, well, it's such a small thing, but it's very expensive mobile communication and that's why it's important for our citizens, they provided a lot of help and support to our refugees, specifically for us - several mobile operators directly from the company allocated these seven cards for us, which we still use . thank you very much, because it was also worth more than a dozen per month. now they are releasing free tariffs because i knew that they were like this for a year, so far they have extended the tariffs and not one mobile operator and even several have extended and we use this mobile connection. now we communicate absolutely free for what, too. well, thank you, this is very

cool. and we lived in someone's premises in the shopping center, i saw your photos, now i'll tell you the story, we were also in lozan, but after the teacher , yes, by the way, it was from ania in the new center, that's true, but we got here after we at first, we lived with a family for 10 days. and we changed three places of residence in a month. we lived at the university as a family for 10 days. but then my mother came to live with a young couple and we had to leave . that they behaved so irresponsibly and accepted a ukrainian family . and for them it was a surprise, a surprise . because my mother is very sick, it so happened that she had to come back to them and we had to vacate the room. were you

comfortable leaving with them or not in 10 days we they were friends with two cats, we have a kitten elichka, that's why this family actually accepted us , because cats and dogs are not very good. at that time, after two months of a full-scale invasion, they accepted us on the territory of switzerland. well, in that first camp, this is the same flesh, this family is very grateful to them, they are turks, but it has been experiencing several dozen years in the territory of switzerland, a very cool family , but this happened again, they liked it, it was very comfortable, it is true, it is a little high to go because it is higher up in the mountains, but of course it is more convenient down here, where the infrastructure is more developed, but they are used to it there and we were very sorry for them to go anywhere lika. we didn't know where we were going and they already offered us another option

at that time we didn't go to the camp where we stayed for three weeks, it was stressful, i'll be honest. yes, this is already the third already third place of residence. at that time, we thought that we would leave quickly and they would provide us with housing. but we were there for three weeks. everything would be nothing we we became friends with our fellow countrymen, because there were mostly ukrainians or residents of ukraine, yes , you all lived in the same hall, and you all had a common kitchen or something. right there in this is such a large shopping center, we called it aushan. this is not the case and it was currently without shops there, no one from businessmen was there or entrepreneurs, it is just an empty hangar without windows. how is it? in the second center, we know that there are also beds spread out

and fences with nets. it's like with banners and 12 people in each of these cities, we stayed with us, there were mainly girls, and there were such that we could count the girls and boys in this so-e-e in a fenced-off room, if this is a family, they fed us well, we cooked they themselves brought us food in such plastic boxes and it would be possible to eat it, but if in three weeks we just got a little tired of it and my market didn't really want to eat the food, i already started to worry because of this, but to find some option with a cat , you understand and they wanted to take with a cat yes and with with a cat we already have such people who are willing, and at the moment there is no one who could provide your cat with such a number of swiss. by the way, i know that she lived there separately, she was not allowed to live in the same room with you. so this is the room in this hangar in

which we lived with the animals it was not possible because people are different, maybe someone has an allergy or someone doesn't like animals, do you know the animals nearby are so small, too, so dumb, like well, not a barn, such an iron building, when is enough, such good conditions, but they were in cages, these domestic animals who lived in in the apartment, i have my dog, tiffany. i just can’t imagine it like that, and imagine well, if it were cats separately, what kind of rooms are there , and the dogs are separate, and no, these are cages, and here there is a cat, and here once and they brought such a large dog or some kind of laboratory these animals have already turned gray, she was so sucked by us, i apologize for the word, but she was so tired, and alina and her lay down right there in the cage and cried when it was already over, when

we had already eaten, but i think i think we are lucky because right now i will tell you where we are going we got there. well, let's tell you, we'll see. finally, these beautiful landscapes of montreux are so called, the place is considered the pearl of switzerland before that. i certainly didn't know about this city a-a yes , but as soon as i came here, of course it's a fairy tale . it's very similar to our yalta. i've been to yalta many times. i also love crimea. before the war, i often went there. the atmosphere is so very, very similar in this town. it’s such a resort town. we got here, but we didn’t get into a separate house or into a family, but we were offered a hostel in which we are currently

130 people are staying, but it is designed for 150 ukrainian refugees, so we live here in a separate room with a mother, daughter and cat , our room is small but bright, this is our kitchen, the girls cook food on each floor, there are about 30-40 people, families with children, even there is now one family one room you as a family live properly in one room yes, we live in this room with mother and daughter and with a cat finally the cat was allowed to live with the owners a lot of equipment i see you were given and pans and dishes and everything new and towels were visible there on the video, i know from the stories of my friends that the swiss well, they are just extremely generous, they took to all these centers for ukrainian refugees and things and everything new, toys for children and

almost there, bicycles, scooters, all the necessary equipment tell us about your experience. my experience so far, when we first arrived here in the hostel, of course we were worried about what we would sleep on, what we would cover ourselves with , where we would cook, because we already knew what we would cook and what we would need. to buy stoves or dishes, but it was such a surprise when we arrived, they let us into the rooms, and new dishes and new hygiene products and toilet paper and toothpaste and soap were waiting for us right away, for a certain period, such a supply and it was a very bed, even i can see well, everything down to the smallest details, yes, they do it all. you see that somehow they calculate and their budget is allocated for this. and for this, they also have a big thank you from the state or is it from the volunteers there from

the swiss. this is exactly what we received upon entering our room. everything from the state from we can go and get clothes there, they are the same, but usually not new , but at that time we came with three suitcases , of course we needed a lot . i'm a teenager, so she always wants to change into something. arina is 11 years old, of course, such a young body is just growing . please tell me what your daily routine is like . you said the girls all take turns cooking. do you

have any schedule for cooking? cleaning or who, as you look, lives on the floor somewhere now 30 i counted and prepared for today's broadcast on our 30 people three floors u and everyone on each floor has their own kitchen there are 5 stoves and three microwaves, microwave ovens, we also have washing machines, handbags before those washing machines, we have everything here amicably. yes , this is what i was expecting, but yes, we live here amicably. there are, of course, different nuances, because different moods, especially this is how it is, a year after a full-scale invasion on february 24 everyone was so upset, everyone was already hoping that there would be a victory and we all want to go home anyway. the majority wants units, who doesn't want to go home. and you didn't say how you prepare a schedule or

wishes in turn, we each prepare for whom when needed because there is a sufficient number of stoves, 5 stoves, 4 hotplates, ovens, there is no special schedule for cleaning, we have girls who clean who lives here and they are paid a small fee for this , they are compensated for their work according to their wishes, those who wanted were paid and cleaned i just saw such banyaks with borscht, huge i i thought that everyone cooks for everyone, every family cooks for themselves, of course we treat each other on holidays, we can even sit at the common table there, but for every day everyone cooks separately for themselves, well, the pots have not yet broken between themselves . have you ever had a pot they didn't get beaten up well, everything happens to suit the mood, you know, what about something global? considering that such a large

number of people live here in one place , everything is calm here. uhu. please tell me about the child's experience at school. in switzerland, education is even free for foreigners however, in public schools there are private schools where you need to pay 25,000 francs a year and 25,000 francs ana wait isn't it a year 25,000 francs is it for a month now i am for a year 25,000 francs is about 25,000 euros there is almost one to one, well, it is very expensive, tell me how arina is at school , what language does she study, and

rina likes the language at school at the moment. mostly in ukrainian, because her class is an integration class, but the teacher is francophone. that is, there are mostly ukrainian children or a mixture . no, only ukrainian children, only ukrainian . well, they have been studying since september, and now a period is coming when some children are already starting to be transferred to a general french school, but our children they study in an integration class, in such a class, in which class did you study in ukraine or in the next next class, very cool, yes, the question is because i was also surprised why so well, that’s how it is, for some reason in advance they run into these classes, and they already know that in switzerland children go to

school from the age of four, how did they put it all together i don't understand the level of ukrainian and swiss schoolchildren to learn, but they skip something like that liko i'm not even you, he's the one for this question because i i don't know him. answers to him. i was interested in what the child is 11 years old . now the woman is in the seventh grade, although in kyiv . independent control works on in the main subjects so that her ukrainian education was credited, what was it, she got a certificate, because that is, the child studies in two schools in parallel, so we study online in the ukrainian school, because they study at the same time in the first half of the day. the sumy school and the ukrainian tonakladka

otaku i chose this type of education for family education , i can't imagine how a child learns french well, she probably studied english at school in ukraine and can still understand something at some basic level, but what language do you speak you don't know how to understand some algebra and geometry. it's fat in this class, and they also have mathematics only twice a week, and there are some basic rules like that, they don't delve into the boxing integration class. in which my daughter is studying, it is the main one, but in switzerland there are four main languages, but in switzerland there are four official languages, the first one is german, somewhere over 80% of the locals know german and use it first , but you see if you live in french