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[000:00:00;00] i would say two categories of parents, the first is those where the children grow up from mixed marriages , that is, for example, the father may be lebanese, or he may be gray because he is jordanian or french, and the mother is ukrainian. and they just want so that the children do not forget their native language, they can communicate with their grandmother, for example, when they meet in the summer , this is important, and because the children here are mostly english-speaking, that is, it is important for them to simply learn the language of culture and traditions. well, the second category, of course. children growing up in ukrainian families have arrived now. it is important for them to follow the ukrainian program. my child has been studying in three schools for the sixth year in order to be able to return to ukraine, because it is quite a big problem if the child then returns without studying in ukrainian schools they do not re-enroll any subjects; they do not recognize documents from french
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, british, american schools, unfortunately , because now millions of ukrainians have gone abroad , and it will be a problem how to get them into the education system, and that is why we, for example, because we want come back, we are all in the emirates temporarily, i have such a diaspora as in canada , in the usa, again, where do they become citizens we are all here in transit and sooner or later we will come, that's why i have a child in distance school in ukraine from the first grade it's already 6 o'clock here a french school and a plus. our weekend school is in order to still complete the ukrainian program because there is just an externship there, but you have to study them in order to pass the annual annual certifications. that’s how three schools are. well, it’s the norm for her. in principle, she i used to go to three schools, i remember roman vashchuk, the former ambassador of canada to ukraine, a canadian citizen. although his name is ukrainian, he has ukrainian surnames, because he is actually the son of ukrainians who had
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to flee from the soviets during the second world war. he told how he hated kyiv . because all normal children went to school there from monday to friday and then had the weekend, and i mean the citizens of canada. and he, like other children from ukrainian families, had to first go to such an ordinary general education school school and then on saturday and sunday to go to sunday or saturday school where they were taught the same poems by taras hryhorovych shevchenko. and he says when i was little, i would like to run somewhere, play football, he says, but when i grew up, i realized how much it was important and why the parents did it well, in the end, what he is, he was from canada in ukraine, and the fact that he is now a business consultant, it means that he does not care . although he is a citizen of canada, the people were born there. the country that
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was the homeland of his parents or these the children who attend, what kind of emotions do those saturday and sunday schools evoke in them, ah, well, of course there are families where maybe the parents are forcing someone, i can't speak about all of them, but the vast majority of children go with great joy because we don't do it as such an educational the process that they have every day, we introduce such subjects as chess, we must have all groups once or twice a month, closet tournaments, we have an orchid master who leads classes in our school, we have acting skills in addition so that language is necessarily language and reading is mandatory but in addition to that, we have a lot of subjects that they like. that is, it is a kind of section of music, shag as acting skills, even here we are preparing for the day of vyshyvanka.
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at this event, that is, we are trying to do something interesting, the lessons are not only standard , which are in ordinary schools, so they come with joy , really, you say, who comes here a little upset, did not sleep, but the child always leaves school with very happy emotions, you you say that teaching the language is the most important culture and tradition, or are there enough materials, because we understand that modern children want something that can be touched, i mean even some documentary tapes , would you like it all in visual form or some short videos that will demonstrate something or well, what if it’s about clothes, or about ukrainian stripes, so that he should also be in the eye , how about this, do you have enough materials , a woman who is in germany recently wrote to me. and she is ukrainian, she is a german teacher, she spoke like this
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it happened that now she is teaching ukrainian culture to children who were forced to live in germany, she says to mrs. leysa, i saw that you were the screenwriter of the film about kvitka tsysyk. advise some such projects so that it is possible to tell children about ukrainian culture. do you have enough materials on which you are actually a teacher of children? what is ukrainian culture? what is ukrainian tradition ? on the internet, any videos, any sites are useful. i don’t think there is any at all. and if something needs to be brought from ukraine , again, now it’s a little longer, but still, people are constantly flying from europe and we transfer everything that is needed, er, absolutely everything earlier it wasn't a problem at all because someone flew many times a week and we absolutely bought everything and delivered it here very quickly now it's a little longer but no problems and
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again we don't feel any detachment from ukraine we have everything we need so what concept, but thank you very much, i hope it is interesting, but i just read that in nizhny ta gila there is such a city in russia, it seems that it is famous for us in ukraine, in particular, that we learned that the residents there often use the local river to wash clothes, so interesting, that was video, i just read the news that in russia , teachers, parents and children are now collecting signatures to prevent the dismissal of a local teacher who came to class with a boy and beat one student on the head with a stick, and another on the legs he didn't like how the master's children behaved, there was discipline, he sat on the phones well, now sometimes the word spanked those two boys with that stick and now the parents, children and teachers all say that you can't fire him
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because, in principle, he's a good person, he's almost not a cockerel, in principle he's like that he is a good teacher, everyone says here, one student said, mom says that my daughter is delighted with him, he is not to blame, 100% proved it, but another boy says that he was and remains a good teacher, he often helped us with something, will you print it in general an understanding teacher helped, he clearly explained the topic. well, of course, baking half a dozen is much more understandable, i think, and this teacher should just be transferred to the arab emirates. there are two russian schools there, i think it will be very helpful for the children of their oligarchs, and then we will see why they are like that they are easily connected to these announcements about mobilization and so meekly go to it. but because they are beaten in classes from childhood, they are taught to be submissive in the literal and figurative sense of the word, now
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let's talk a little about psychology during the war andriy kozynchuk, a military psychologist and an officer of the armed forces of ukraine , is in touch with us . andriy, have a good day. hello, andriy. you are as always full of energy and smiling. from the military, as well as about that, we often hear from the civilian population that people are tired and there is some kind of apathy when people say no, we would like to help and we don't have the strength for it is it normal or is it logically correct when you slap slap slap your slap a little, well, it doesn't slap much, you know, the psychologist and they are handsome, but they didn't come up with anything, and it's more effective and better than
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human than now, rest will be dangerous , we need to think about rest, because if we 're going to be like this all the time, then a little well, let's push the stick when we work, we donate as volunteers, we fight, well, it's not bad . remember that there is an hour a day, a day a week, but you need to rest, because otherwise nothing will happen, that's why it's just permanent. that is, you can sleep for eight hours you woke up tired, it's not just that , it means that every day you just don't make time for yourself and you have to . it's when you don't do anything and it's very difficult ukrainians got divorced and don't do anything, that's why i'm not saying that it's completely necessary
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to fall asleep, but for an hour a day they don't deserve to rest. my friend, a ukrainian journalist, wrote an article for the garden newspaper with the headline the main thing the feeling that ukrainians live with after the invasion it's a feeling of guilt i thought that there was a point in this but is there a walkie-talkie in this let 's say this but is there a point in this ? what is your opinion? such guilt, guilt is a very subjective topic that cannot be counted, well, half says that you do not count, you do not see that you are doing something useful , but here i emphasize that this does not mean that you are not doing something, you do not see what you are doing, and therefore
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the question what you do and here the important thing is to i don't pay for the armed forces. and i give 5% of my income there. it's very important that you realize how much you do it, because you 're just faking it. i love ukraine, that's a very general phrase. and when you know that you're doing something and can you count it, it means that you can add 1%, it means that you can subtract one percent, because it is a fault, it means that you do not realize how much you sting or are useless, in my 16th year, when i returned from the war, i had there are a lot of primary survivors my cool uncle and aunt died. and i didn't. well, i went to my psychotherapist and he mentally kicked me in the head to
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do something about it . i started to calculate what i was doing. as if it goes without saying that it is very important to be aware of this guilt, it is killed by the fact that you are aware of your value, your scope, well , i don't know the number of journalists there, the number of signs or the number of interviews, that's the thing, just realize that look if you don't understand ask your closest friends. they will tell you for sure who is leading. i will also ask the next interlocutor after you, valery pekar, who wrote such a painful article , with which a lot of people are outraged. now they do not agree that we will win this war , most likely he thinks, but there is a very there is a big risk that if everything goes by inertia , then we can lose the peace, as he formulated it, this means that we will disconnect and the father who said
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that after the war the country will be in serious ruins and maybe we will be strong burned out, that is, those people who will return from the front will be tired, they themselves will need help, and those people who worked here a lot as volunteers, but that is, the most active , will also be too exhausted, if there are still no good positive moments from various external and internal political fields, then simply well, the main question is, once again, how do we invite people to come here who left, because in this story there is also, relatively speaking, and the children and wife return here, or vice versa, dad who won back says no, well, it's enough for me to go to the bathhouse, i'm going to poland, for example, you understand , there are a lot of divorces now, so
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it's not just that, well, i agree with him, because we all strive for victory. period of euphoria wow victory euphoria ends buy yourself a new fruity phone the last one and you will have euphoria for a couple of days and then well the phone is a normal camera i’m sorry what is the comparison i’m not comparing the scales but the process and the important thing here is that after that but we need a lot of work i put i bet precisely on those who went, that they preserved resources, safety and that they support us a little mentally, but this is my subjective dream, i don't know, childish, really, well, this is a process that we will have to submit, it was very difficult to overcome the beams after the slavic
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conflicts in general. well, he it's difficult because this depression is a wartime one, when the skinners climb out there some things, it should come and we should have a system of which at the moment i don't see that we have some kind of program of the first lady, maybe we have a tree minuet and unfortunately, it doesn't do anything but well, we have to realize that the victory gives us this victory gives us only security , only this is a lot in fact, but after that work will be needed to restore it , look, i don't want my words to be sugary, this is information for which we will have to prepare, what for moreover, for our safe country, which we want to go here , certain steps must be taken, not by anyone, but by us, but if we know this information, the collection should be prepared for that
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. heard especially in the only news about the fact that we are well done we are holding on we are winning let's liberate the next next village to the city and it caused such euphoria in people then i watched the decline of this ferikha someone fell into such a trap of that euphoria because he was on the mountain and then it simply fell to the bottom because some reality turned out to be not as joyful as it was all broadcast, and sociologist yevgeny holovakha says that ukrainians are holding on now because they believe, most of them believe that the war will end in the summer, and that is why they they are ready, knowing when they will arrive at point b from point a, well, we will tolerate it, but a lot of people who saw the war with their own eyes say that
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it will not happen in the summer . for some it can also be a reason for depression, well, look. and i'll explain, uh, we needed these positive news to fool me , but we sat on the needle a little bit, you know , this arresting, similar, this needle , we're winning coolly, i can say that we're not we are losing but we are not winning yet and we really had to endure a year psychologically in order for us to learn to live with the war this year has come we have adapted we have learned to live again this lavender syrup is added to the bottle everything is okay the question is that we
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now, next, i need to implement this functionality, lord, but i don't want to evade your question, which is inconvenient for all of us, is it whether we will fall into depression, and damn it, i don't want to promise either, in my subjective opinion, i really want to dream that we won't fall and a lot of people m-m visionaries, missionaries, i don't know those handsome guys, but it won't fall because there is no time, well, you have to shovel, someone will definitely fall , especially those who, uh, they were waiting, they don't make news. they are waiting for news here , of course. yes, but we recruit them all, okay, because they are a minority and they they just shout very loudly and the impression is that there are actually a lot of them, they are mostly a minority, we really need to stop watching the news and what to do with them, and then it will be ok. well, now everyone who wanted to run away ran away, everyone
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who wanted to return came back we are beating some percentage of doubters left and we are inviting them to the armed forces here it is cool eh i recommend it on the basis of advertising information - thanks to this huge help for both of us, it is very cool that they are helping us financially with a moral weapon, but we are a bit like that, you know , they didn't give us the planes, we didn't give them the word, the planes didn't give anything, in one disgusting soviet film there was such a phrase sama-sama-sama i myself and i constantly try to do it somehow. well, what is it like to constantly repeat, well, for myself, that dude is beating himself, and you will be happy , well, we will. thank you, mr. andriy, andriy kuzenchuk , a military psychologist, an officer of the armed forces
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of ukraine, told us to beat, but also not to forget about rest so as not to go crazy, let's not forget valery, baker, public figure, entrepreneur, teacher at the mogilian business school, when are you with us, valery, good day, we already see you, we hear, we already started such a prelude to this one as well parts of the conversation p valery wrote such a not just publication, as you yourself admit, if in the preface it is a publication about the bad scenario that can await us after the war, the inertial scenario, which means that it assumes that if nothing is changed, we can very likely end up exactly at this point, and it is not a very pleasant point, this is the point where ukraine ultimately does not get into either nato or the eu, er, ukraine, where disappointment grows, where people do not return er, from er, there are places of forced migration
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, on the contrary, elephants go there not so much a pessimistic forecast , what made you finally publish it? for an average citizen for someone else, for example, from an oligarch and an optimistic scenario that for someone there is a good scenario for someone there is a bad scenario and that is why without sweeping judgments i wrote what a scientist calls an inertial scenario an inertial scenario - this is what will happen if we we will not do anything without it is relatively good this is bad optimistic pessimistic what will happen if everything moves where it is moving now and no one will make efforts to somehow replace this situation that is exactly the scenario that was written out inertial, that is, it rolls according to inertia even such scenarios usually
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cause immediate disgust, disappointment and depression. as a result, if we are adults , we must become aware that there is something i can do to prevent this scenario from happening , and usually such an inertial scenario is not become not realized precisely because there is a critical mass of people who cheat sober up excuse me who uh wakes up after his rosy dream that everything is okay about which mr. andriyu just told me on the air that uh they don't read anymore not very bad no very good, er, some telegram channels or tapes, i laughed a little when andrei suggested on television not to read or listen to the news , television already exists, but at the same time, don’t dwell on it, don’t dwell on either good or
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bad news, and dwell on the fact that i i have to do it. i want to remind viktor frankl . he is known as a concentration camp psychologist who actually survived the nazis and concentration camps and torture in order to survive. write a book on how to do it in ukrainian translation. those who believed that everything would end very quickly, those who gave up and died, those who stopped, those who stopped believing that it would ever end in general, and those who survived and left the concentration camp were those who simply did what they had to do every day to do this is exactly what i am calling for. and for people to wake up, stop thinking about everything too well or too badly , stop giving evaluative judgments and ask themselves the question what should i do together with other people so that such an inertial scenario does not materialize, many people said it is bad it's a depressing time, i received hundreds of private messages that it is very realistic and it's really going there everything is going, and let's not make judgments,
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let's look at the whole abyss into which we are rolling, let's stop and turn around and move in the opposite direction, once again for those who have not read the article, the article is not about the war, i am sure that we will win, the article is about what will happen to us the next day after the war, i said the heroes of the brave soldier shveik at 8:00 in the evening after the war and you are on your facebook before spreading the link to this article, would i have written an article long ago, the publication of which i kept postponing, why was it postponed, and why was it published now? now we need to raise two people somehow and not show them the unpleasant truth. and in times like this, positive bloggers are much more needed who tell us that everything will be fine . don't worry, we have checked everything, we have sweater information very soon we will be given the death star of the star wars series and we will
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finally we will defeat the damned russians, but at some point i just saw that a huge number of people were stuck in overly positive assessments of the situation after the war. valery, hear me for a second, don't hear me, don't hear me now, don't hear me, yes, now, no, not mine, so. so, it was not about the course of the war, because i am very optimistic about our victories, but about what will happen the next day after the war, to be very brief ukraine does not carry out the reforms that it has undertaken to do, but on the other hand , many reforms carried out in previous years are rolling back. this is considered a violation by our western partners, who
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have undertaken to undertake unconditionally to support us during the war, but did not undertake to definitely support us after the victory and will support us only on the condition that we do our homework, which means that we are in danger of not receiving money for reconstruction and not becoming a member of the european union and many other similar things that are done only in exchange for those things that we have undertaken to do, we need to do them now, then it will be too late , if you tell it very briefly in a television format, the text is quite lengthy, one of of economists and ukrainian yura gaidai, who is a senior economist at the center of economic strategy. he wrote such a lengthy comment criticizing your publication, which , by the way, you also distributed . as far as i understand. the strongest is faster. faster to your reaction, but the point when he says that he does not agree
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that there has been an excessive centralization of the media space as a person who is part of this media space, well, that is, he is already there he slipped up. that is, it seems absolutely obvious to me, and what about other arguments, that is, i understand that there is also a very optimistic view, in particular, that in fact reforms are taking place, they are simply imperceptible or preparation for these reforms, but on the other hand, i will remind you again that shmygal said that we are ready to join the european union in the single news marathon so that you can also talk about yours , here is this article, you know, i am much more often invited to other channels than to the single marathon. fragment invited maybe twice in the last year for things not related to the economy of the reform but i will say only one thing if you want to know what entrepreneurs think about where everything is going, ask entrepreneurs
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more than half, i emphasize more than half of ukrainian entrepreneurs suffer from illegal manual labor blocking of tax invoices with which nothing can be done, and a large number of ukrainian entrepreneurs are seriously thinking about taking their business abroad. that is, these are real facts. these are surveys of entrepreneurs conducted business associations, and i will remind you that there is a coalition of business communities for the modernization of ukraine, which unites almost 100 different business associations, including the largest and most powerful, which , in the spring of last year, adopted a memorandum about what the economic policy of ukraine should be after the victory, we are not going there, we are not going there .
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national security, education, and so on, all this is the result. in the end, it depends on whether the country is attractive for business today. as of january 1, 2022 , ukraine was 130th in the world ranking of economic freedom and 78th in the holy ranking of the rule of law. it is to change well, there was also a very significant drop in the rating of freedom in general from the answer to the ties literally yesterday came out and we were deteriorating there very very positions now between the gray and between the harm-iuar and niger- we are of course that this is martial law but it is also a reason to think, valery. thank you very much for your attention . valery, a baker, a public figure, an entrepreneur, a teacher at his mogilian business school, a sobering person , thank you for the conversation. tr continues
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