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, the house is in general. this is probably the most terrible thing for me because i am a mother, there is no family connection and for us, that’s all. it’s already a complete occupation of the city in a colony. 30 days died, as the volynites said, your ukraine is gone. until the full-scale invasion, nina was happy. lived and worked in mariupol in a mariupol house, whatever it looked like. no matter how it was destroyed, mariupol - this is my home, now her home is where the service is, she is an inspector of the patrol police on every call. when you come, you can generally help every person. nina works in the city of dubno, which is in the rivne region, which is more than 1000 km
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from her mariupol but the name of the native city is always embroidered with it on a chevron. mariupol people wear their chevron at work so that you can see mariupol. and you are from mariupol. and tell me how the war came to mariupol. we asked and nina agreed to tell the details of her story. from the beginning of the full-scale invasion and at 5 a.m. on the alarm, we get up. we go to the upp. i understand that this is war. mariupol was constantly under fire. in general, throughout the city, the patrols in mariupol from the first days of the invasion worked as an ambulance for
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local residents, bringing water to someone, food to someone, and to the place where the russian rockets landed, the most frightening thing for me is the maternity hospital with the bombed-out maternity ward, natalia's colleagues evacuated pregnant women in labor and carried babies in their arms, a woman comes to meet me, hands the child over and says, "i don't know where his parents are, and i'm worried because i don't understand what i should do with this child. this boy's name is igor, and in the second the hospital took all the evacuees there and the parents found and found igor the tragedy in the maternity ward nina says it is impossible to forget just a few years ago her daughter was born in this hospital we
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have seen a lot of tragedies in the maternity ward house well, that's in general. it's probably more accurate for me, because i'm a mother. i managed to go out on patrol calls in mariupol only until march 13, and then in the city, nina recalls , communication completely disappeared. the inspector was able to get to her office on foot. you go in and you will not go to the place where our police academy was and recently the opp was based there and bombs were dropped and hailstones were flying to listen to those explosions, they were not , really, no one was like that before that or were we afraid so we couldn’t even the last to realize that this is already a complete occupation of the city in order to survive in the occupation without water and electricity. nina, her daughter and her husband moved to her parents' house. there was a river nearby . on march 20, the family tried to get out of the city blocked by the russians. my husband
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is also a patrol policeman, and we understood that if the post well could we have problems and we put the child in the car with the parents and well, that's how it turned out, they left , it was found out to me that it was the police and we were informed that we are not going anywhere in a few days nina and her husband they were taken to a colony in a deer house, the couple stayed for a month, as they said, the people of volyn, your ukraine is gone. how we held on, we knew that it was not true, we believed the whole of ukraine, what was in prison, the woman will tell only after our victory, because many are still in captivity of the russians ukrainians, and nina calls her exit from the colony simply a miracle. at that moment, only azovstal remained from mariupol, and azovstal fought back, and they had a bridge left, which somehow needed to be controlled, and the policemen were released and
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told us, well, go, join the service, and we they said, well, look. well, we walked in the other direction in the direction of berdyansk from occupied berdyansk. nina was able to get out because this city , she says, was less tightly controlled by the russians . when they got to vasilivka , they finally saw the first ukrainian checkpoint. i didn’t cry , volynites, in principle, but seeing the ukrainian flag, hearing our language, god in you know, we had such an impression. well, it's all over, that we're already home, being in captivity , i was most worried about my daughter , i was afraid that the parents, together with the child, would not they returned to mariupol to look for her when they found out that five-year-old eva was with her grandparents in the dnipro. the family calmed down there and started life anew . this
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photo was taken during the summer. two days after his family left him, we were lucky, looking at the photo of my parents' house, i understand that they would not have gone there if there were not a few bombed-out places in mariupol. well, it is completely bombed out of heavy thoughts about nino's hometown. thoughts about her are distracting. eve, who thousands of kilometers away is waiting for the hugs of her mother for her daughter , so very sad, we will bring her to the rivne region. there is a lot to see and there is more to show the child. its very beautiful places that we had no idea about. and the rescue service, armed
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with a camera and a walkie-talkie, goes on patrol in a new for her in the city. with the local patrolman in something . it is possible, i can learn from it. for some reason, i showed it how our work is done. in the rivne region, it may not be such a load, but there are enough violations in the main traffic rules. you can say that. nina serves in a consolidated unit , which only three months ago opened in dubno , more than 40 patrol officers from the east of ukraine moved here, we have employees from donetsk and luhansk regions, provided everyone with accommodation in dormitories, we have one family, if you can say, one functional responsibilities and one we do the work alone, like most ukrainians, we only dream of one victory and of course i would like to return home to mariupol, you know, i can't adequately
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talk about mariupol right now because it is probably the pain of every mariupol resident well, at the time when we lived there, we did not slightly underestimated their city and no one imagines it. we will miss them so much in general that we will have to go home, but while the occupiers are in her hometown, the police sergeant is not with them, she serves where it is needed, her story the war is another evidence of the crimes of the russians for me in mariupol it was not a war for me mariupol subjective opinion it was a genocide from the rivne region with faith in the liberation of mariupol and all occupied cities and villages snizhan sydoruk mykola vasylyuk details
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tv channel inter marathon single news congratulations again on the agenda of the ukrainians , at first the usa began to suspect that the people's republic of china might start supplying weapons to the aggressor country russia, and later the chinese themselves distinguished themselves by publishing a document of a well-known media as the chinese peace plan. in the end, the self-proclaimed president of belarus and putin's henchman lukashenko rushed to beijing for a visit, which gave rise to a series of suspicions and fears , and whether he went there for weapons for putin , the word is the rubric , accent. of our region, which is not close to china well, today we will talk about this with guests in the studio, and this is ihor lytvyn, extraordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to china from 1999 to
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2001, co-chairman of the ukrainian-chinese of the business council and ruslanusypenko, an expert on international issues, ex-executive director of the chinese trade association, gentlemen, congratulations. and we were preparing this program, there was one set of media, and already in the process , a second one appeared in that matter. so-called double meetings, and the communist party parliament is gathering for a big meeting that will last two weeks, and in the fields and within the framework of this meeting, chinese leaders and this is xi jinping, and we are primarily interested in the former minister of foreign affairs the ambassador to the united states began to publish statements, and in these statements, these statements are quite harsh in relation to
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the united states. at first, mr. qinggang ze, the minister of foreign affairs of the new china, stated that, well, literally quoting the conflict, it is called the conflict, the conflict in ukraine is controlled by an invisible hand , later xi jinping clarified that the hand a fiction and it is the hand of the united states, gentlemen , the first question is why is there suddenly such a harsh rhetoric against the united states from the side of china . what can this be related to ? china before what opinion prevails in the world about china. everyone understands that there is definitely a certain competition and maybe even a confrontation, a struggle between china and the united states, that's why all kinds of attempts by the united states to somehow put pressure on the chinese leadership, they say, don't do that, don't do that, because that's what will happen
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and it will be like this, they cannot but cause a corresponding reaction from the chinese leaders , who must show everyone that no, we cannot be told what to do, because we are an independent player and everyone has already admitted that the world is bipolar and the main towers and poles are the united states and china these are the two countries that is why one pole country cannot give instructions to another pole country especially since it is china we are all chinese descendants of the empire trust my experience for many decades i work from china every average chinese he considers himself a descendant of the emperors, he looks at everyone like that, we cannot be given any instructions, that is why
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there is a sharp reaction and a reaction that should determine you, look at the states, and you are better . stick to the normal position, and instead in order to threaten us because you, i said gypsies, you give weapons to ukraine and at the same time give weapons to taiwan, well, an average person can ask, and here is taiwan, and here is ukraine, where it is firstly about armed aggression that is unprovoked and absolutely insidious , but on the other hand, it is about support the relevant territory, which is recognized , including by the tribes, as an integral part of china at their request to strengthen its potential . that is, you would rather agree with the opinion of forintpolis, the publication that literally
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appears the day before published an article under the title that the so-called peace plan of china for ukraine is actually a peace plan, china's plan for taiwan. that is, it is as if the template is the one that china actually published , referring to taiwan. well, i cannot fully agree with this, because it is, after all , aimed at settling the situation that they call the conflict, the ukrainian crisis in ukraine, we need to stop the war, china wanted to become a player in the international game on the issue of the war in ukraine yes, but in the same place. in this plan, absolutely no tools are specified
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. that is, you can respect sovereignty territorial integrity, as you know. let the sun always shine, let the sky always shine, and let's hold hands, friends, you can hold hands, of course, but first, stop this violence against ukrainians on ukrainian territory, in general, on everyone in the principle of international law, and then we can talk about something so i'm not sure if this is a rehearsal or something similar to future manipulations regarding taiwan. and could it be? i 'm just asking you as a diplomat, as a person knowledgeable in this matter, or could it be purely well, yes so to speak, procedural, such a move, the fact is that lam hoi double, double meetings, they are going , and it is possible that during the double meetings , a certain, well, how to say the canvas , the direction of china's policy for the year is determined, and accordingly , can it just be such a program
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statement of china, well, it is so acute criticism of the united states can , of course, and this is confirmed by the fact that from march 1 , it is regrouping the armed forces in china, this is called mobilization by foreign publications, but it clearly says that we must be ready for the challenges of the modern situation associated with by any military operation and other things yes by military actions yes well i don't think it has much to do with this means a double session this is a session of the chinese people's assembly and the national political consultative council means china they have to approve plans for the next year economic and make protocol things after electing xijinping the next term as the president
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to determine the cabinet of ministers, i.e. the state council and so on mr. igor and when you saw the so-called peace plan of china what were yours? well, i don't know your thoughts, emotions, analysis of this document, well, china's peace plan is actually about the global and not about our conflict , it's a plan about about it, a positional document, it's not a plan, it's a positional document, the plan is purely a media media term, a positional document for china's position as one of the global leaders happened after the g20, we saw that the key meeting at the g20 was precisely the meeting between xi jinping and biden, and in fact, after that, this bipolar world took shape, and the agenda in the world will take shape through the dialogue of these two states that they choose, it will be the same for the world, if they choose confrontation, it will be a confrontational scenario, if they choose cooperation
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, it will be a cooperative scenario, why i say so , because look there only the fourth point about the ukrainian crisis. issues about un norms and standards. that is, this is a more global document, mr. ruslan. i'm sorry, and by the way, i just had a thought. i was once taught to listen to chinese speeches and told to listen what is the first number, the second, the third, what was the first, what was very wonderful, and what kind of timing, that is, how much is being said about it, and this is how it is possible to set priorities, cross out, subtract, gentlemen, i understand correctly that if the main meeting at the g20 is a meeting with c and biden, if
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china declares its vision as one of the poles. is russia just overboard or not? in what way has everything changed and in what way do you think china will build relations with russia then , because they say that it is eternal friendship there which means that it has reached some kind of flowering there and will continue to flourish and all the challenges, as the same tsingan said, all the challenges of the modern world only encourage the strengthening of this friendship, how will it be built, or is russia already at peace and china knows about it, has come to terms with the role well, for sure not one of these two pluses , russia has definitely turned into a regional state. if earlier it acted and wanted to present itself as a global center of power. and do you remember, it was the initiator of the creation
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of the brics. this is exactly the year 2008, the year of creation 2009 brics, where she wanted to pursue her policy of a multipolar world. that is, it was a challenge to the united states of america. but the facts are theoretical. alliances were formed against someone, if you look at what unites china and russia. destinies for humanity and there is the basis, the theoretical basis of this concept, by which the whole of china has been living since 2013, this is multi-civilizational tolerance of all civilizations without the dominance of one civilization in chinese it is actually against us against the hegemony of the united states that everyone is equal so that there is peace and prosperity and so on
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, they actually unite on these basic theories, that is , russia's world vision and china's world vision coincide exactly here, and that is why russia actually uses it to eliminated or undermined this dominance of the united states of america after the defeat in afghanistan, the defeat in ukraine meant that the united states leaves the arena as a world leader and as a world hegemon, and then china remains in this arena who offers his theory, this one was directed at the countries of the global south. in this theory, five regions are described to which china is directing its efforts, where it is increasing its authority, the so-called peaceful ascension, through various instruments, including through un peacekeeping operations, it increased its authority there, through investments , the initiation of joint programs like the silk road, for example, in economic terms, that
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was central asia, but now we see that there is actually such a competition for central asia between the united states, russia has lost its influence there, and this vacuum is being filled by the united states, this c5+1 meeting, when the head of state of the state department went, and china actually guaranteed the sovereignty of kazakhstan, such as central asia, africa, latin america , arab countries and asian countries, i.e., five regions for which the main china is directing its efforts and where it would like to position itself as a leader in the world, ah, mr. ruslan and mr. igor, too, if the question is very simple, elementary, even a little bit not very smart, if china is for peaceful development, why then the war in ukraine does not cause him a sharp reaction of opposition, well, except for such rounded statements about what the measurement means in
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the whole world. sorry for the simplicity . what is he playing? meaning, and we are all western barbarians and laumaudzis, it’s okay, what does china want to tell the world, what plans do you understand? and what do i mean, the united states, which claims to be the world leader, has a message for the world, they say, liberal economy, democratic elections, democratic values, blah, blah, blah, american jeans, mcdonald's, and so on. this is already the second, this is the second package. what kind of message does china have
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? during the olympic visit, this means that no talks about the next actions on the part of russia in relation to ukraine were discussed; secondly , china was very impressed by the weakness of the russian russian army, if the plans of kyiv were realized in three days, the situation would be completely different based on this. china is now proving that russia is not some kind of pole because it is not capable of being this pole, and in order for everyone in the world to believe that two poles are a reality, the united states and
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therefore, china does not really want. well, it does not want america to have absolute success in this operation to support ukraine in repelling this aggression, and for this china sat and sat and then decided, wait, we, the world players, must declare this and we we are making sure that everyone understands that we have concrete proposals, let them be of a global nature , but they are not aimed at ukraine, they themselves are of a global nature in order to prove to the whole world that wait for two poles and they let's see that the second pole is china ugh, they just put it out and said here are our principles and well, actually there well, really not about ukraine or not only about ukraine, it will be more precise and you mentioned the shock that russia most likely caused or
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can you say at least at some point in the development of this whole history with the war in ukraine that russia began to interfere with china, you diplomats understand that and we all know very well that china no matter how you treat it, but in diplomacy it is a quite consistent and subtle state. well, let's say they do not act with some rough methods. it cannot be assumed that, for example, russia resorted to a crude method before the start of the war, or can it be said that russia is now interfering with china in its complicated game, you know, two are playing chess or go and here came a third, which means that the board was scattered began to shout that he now means they will capture kyiv in 3 days, and this is the first and second in this situation that has developed, politics must deal with what is if the conditional conditional
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method does not work as in history and in this situation that has developed i which russia which does russia need china or is it beneficial to china? let's say directly russia that lost or russia that froze the war or russia that drags on the war or russia that can still win what do you think please definitely china is interested in stability in stability internal and in external stability why because the main idea of china rise peaceful rise, that is, because of the economic potential and by 2049, china has the task of becoming the number one country in economic terms and then, in their opinion , convert into international authority and solve their political issues, both internal and external, including taiwan if you have there is no stability on the external circuit and now there is no war , therefore, in this opposition document on peace , it is exactly
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what is said about reducing strategic risks, about the restoration of production and logistics chains, and about that china opposes unilateral sanctions that do not pass through the un security council, which means that it would then have the right to regulate these sanctions there because it has the right to veto , it would impose a veto and then from china's point of view it would be possible to ensure minimal stability that gives development to that the formula by which china has been living since the 1980s and gaining this economic potential was the openness of the reform to innovation, if you do not have openness, there are no reforms, there are no innovations, then you have no trade, no economy, no potential. well, but i think that it is worth making a note for the audience that, well, it was primarily realized in the territory of special economic zones, the rest of china hardly enjoyed such openness and reforms and
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innovations, as for example in honda, this process started this process started from the southeastern provinces, it went inside china and at the moment, the issue is the development of the north , north-west and west south-west provinces. and this gives china, as he says , the opportunity if it is isolated from the outside, it will redirect its potential to development internal provinces and for some time it will have the opportunity to develop further, that is, to maintain its international potential, because the northwestern province of xinjiang and the southwestern as far as i understand , yunnan has somewhere there, well, it is, in any case, it is closer to india to india and in "yetnamu, well, the west is to india, and this is xinjiang - this is the exit to what we used to call central asia, yes, and now central asia, where china has interests
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