[000:00:00;00] they are made from cuttings on us sappers, they have to neutralize everyone on the spot, retreating from the entire settlement, they destroyed all the power lines, residential buildings and all approaches, because from that side, because from that side they entered our troops , the difficulty is great because when accompanied by the electricians' brigades at restoration of power lines, a lot of engineering munitions, especially anti-personnel munitions , are prohibited, prohibited to the entire civilized world for use, and unfortunately, all the fields and this is almost thousands of hectares designated for such mines that cannot be removed and that must be neutralized right on the spot is a rather difficult job, which is complicated firstly by the large vegetation and secondly by the large presence of mines, the neutralization of each mine takes a lot of time and everything is approached individually because there is potentially something under it

, such that they were mined in order to knock out us sappers so that we cannot do our work, the village is a year of time without electricity, without gas, without water, accordingly, we are currently working primarily to restore critical infrastructure, to turn on the lights together with by teams of electricians here. well, at the moment, we have already brought the rest of the villages to almost half of the village, which are still waiting for us from it, a very large volume of work, a very large volume of work, and analyzing it compared to kyiv region, where i also had to visit demining for more than 90 days in the past year. similarly, with this group with which i am currently working here, the kyiv region and the kherson region, if you compare the kherson region , you should be able to at least 20 with such volumes with such a number of prohibited

anti-personnel cluster munitions with such mining after all, they mined well, as during hostilities, in order to deter a potential enemy, or to secure themselves there, so that something would not go wrong when leaving here. they mined everything , starting from dog kennels, ending with the detonation of these lines of power transmission towers and mines installed on practically the entire infrastructure, this was done deliberately not placed between two pillars at a distance of 50 m , 4 ozm 72 mines, which jump to the level of the stomach , which are 2400 pieces of debris in a circle and 25 m each side, leave no chance, what is the goal to remind us as much as possible or something practical is what do you think the goal is, well, my subjective opinion based on the analysis of my experience, their goal is to make sure that no one lives in this territory anymore, well , they don't mine if people want

to do something in this territory or restore it, there is a very large volume here, and i i can't even say with certainty how long it will take for us to at least reach the level that was before the full-scale invasion, there is a lot of work , an extremely lot of work, in my opinion, this is my subjective opinion, which i can express, well, based on my own experience, we are probably undermined country in the world on such a scale, on the territory, the number of mines, let's say per square meter, on the types of ammunition, the newest , which many have not even encountered, these are their new russian developments, which they test to some extent on us, from which we learn without knowing their specifics and somehow somehow working, this is our job, we know how to do, we work. i understand that it may be too early to talk about this, but your forecasts are how long it will take to

clear the mines of kherson oblast, and ukraine in general , can proceed at such a pace. well, if regulatory documents, one day of launching a war with the use of various types and types of ammunition there, three dashes, 7-10 days of complete demining , well, as much as possible, we take a year of war, a minimum of 10 demining , a lot, a lot of all that junk. and when they left in our land, it is not even tens of thousands, you can to give an example, the most disgusting thing is what you saw in terms of mining , maybe i don’t know there, a children’s nursery in a private house, toys were mined, or something like that , well, in the kyiv region, we saw a children’s cradle, a small cradle mined

mined professional mined enough that when lifting the pillow the entire wheel of a kilogram of strata exploded here electric to electrician crono in the pillows this was mined by this person who did not watch the mining system on youtube how it is installed mined professional logic i don't see there also all private mines are mined here houses were where were they they changed everything from doghouses to entrances on the territory of private houses to stretch marks doors beds some household items well completely everything yes yes it does not change yes mined during hostilities in a different way minus the enemy, and here the mine system was 80% on the civilian population in order to ensure that the people who will return are blown up and killed or injured , the ammunition remains, together with some children's toys , as elements of everyday life when any element of everyday life is lifted it will work - a surprise and the civilian population

will die, sappers of the armed forces of ukraine are working with us , explosives technicians of the national police are working with us, we expect that maybe some will help us international organizations that deal with those that are certified in ukraine, first of all that deal with the demining complex, help us here will not interfere with such volumes of agricultural land - this is the next stage. that we will enter are agricultural fields on which no hostilities were conducted, they were injured as a result of shelling, this is one demining system, there are agricultural fields the fields on which minefields are installed, both infantry and anti-tank and mixed, are very many, which are mined with the help of remote means of demining with cluster prohibited elements, and then on the basis of this

information, each field has its own approach, because when a field is damaged due to the arrival of artillery or mlrs, it is one demining system , when there are engineering munitions on the field, it is a completely different regulatory document by which we work, we must first of all ensure the safety of our personnel and work in accordance with regulatory documents, although most of them, unfortunately, now we are writing them in our own blood, there are none in the world, i have not met even in any international standards, rules of demining, what to do with such a scale and with a certain degree of such pollution. now we are writing some new regulatory documents that will be used by the whole world in the future let's not go because i'll take the searcher further there i haven't gone yet we take one two three four five six seven i still see here over there it's eight and this everything

is coming from me and beyond the horizon this is the whole field you you can imagine the scale, almost every third of them is modified so that it cannot be removed from the site, unfortunately, there are already cases of guys who died from them, you can't even unscrew the explosive according to all the regulatory documents that were under the union, how these mines are demined, modified so that during it's a trick, it's an explosion, 7.5 kg of tortilla is enough for your head, there's not one chance in a million, there's only two pieces like a fist left to bury, at best, you have to learn in practice as unfortunately yes unfortunately yes well now we are using these mines to defuse them, how exactly do they defuse them, a separate explosive charge is placed on each war, it is taken out to the detonator, it is verified

that there is no one around, the entourage reports that there is no one nearby, the explosion takes place after the explosion , we are waiting for the time, we are coming checking whether it detonated after the explosion, at least 20-30 minutes are needed, because the detonation can knock you down when you approach, less when you last less time when you approach, it may already be erected there to be here, unfortunately, unfortunately, there were those who know how to do it and knowing our specifics, how we do it, we roughly studied according to the same regulatory documents , they will find us to catch us, and we know where they will catch us, and we are ready to work.

they drove people out. and from that side it was west, they tried to enter the mykolayiv pokrovsky garden, and ours tried to enter here, unfortunately, this equipment is ours, our boys broke through the mine polo here, these are all the houses, everything was named. from here, the mines were here, here were there, here we are going, there were anti-personnel mines, here they were all defused anti-tank mines , here everything was mined, this field from the entire landing to

that landing, and here there. mines without a detonator and you hook it, turn it over once a day , wait a day, return it to us, it breaks off, it is processed alive with a cat, get lucky with such a polo, how long does it take? this is only one of the fields and not the most terrible thing that i see. listen, well, it's actually a very interesting report about the work of sappers, we all hear about those

colossal, incomparable with nothing, in fact , the volume of mining, and this very sapper, this man, said that they mine so knowingly that more of this territory will not be used because it is without such a way to simply complicate the activities of the same farmers, and so on. well, listen , well, but about what mines are being laid , in particular, on the cultural front, which on the first they don't kill the look, but in fact they kill just as well and they have such a prolonged effect, you know, because they live for decades and poison poison . i wanted you to know what to show, now i will ask you to bring out the directors

about russification. we all very often start - we appeal. when we have some dispute, there is something wrong to write something, we appeal to our spelling, which we have, but i always, when we say the word ether, there is someone in the audience begins to write what kind of language is ether we have the word ether why do you say ether marathon but actually friends it was in our language in our dictionaries it was taken from us in order to bring ours as close as possible to russian the process actually started already in the 30s and it is very interesting the material was dropped by a historian and now a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine , vakhtan kipiani, who is also one of the largest researchers in ukraine and a collector of collectors of ukrainian periodicals. here he simply posted two copies of them called the worker metalurg is a publication that was published already in the ukrainian ssr in soviet ukraine in the 1930s, and here is

the publication for the 31st year and for the 35th year. if we can show them now, you will see that in the version of the 31st year it was still called metallurgical worker and this is dnipropetrovsk region. imagine the 31st year of metallurgy. this is for those ukrainians when they say why are you talking like that? no one is talking. it is not something like that . this is not dnipropetrovsk region. this is not volynyaki. as well as the czech poles slovaks and our other slavic brothers, and the next edition is already in the 35th year . after the holodomors, a metallurg worker is writing a popular technical magazine that was between 31 and 35 years in the dnipropetrovsk region. do you remember it was the holodomor together with the letter yu and the letter г exterminated millions of people who remembered

this language and could retell it, and in the third year, it seems, ukrainian philologists were brought in, taken out of ukraine , brought to the urals. until now, unfortunately, we use it. why do russians fight with letters? why do they fight with books that haunt them? in 1931 and 1935, what was the name of one and the same magazine . in 1931, it was called metallurgist, and in 1935 it became

metallurgist. there will be no culture of the ukrainian nation, the ukrainian nation simply cannot exist without ukrainian culture, because culture is but this identity is the carrier of our values, and that is why when the occupiers entered the captured territories, what did they do first of all, they came to schools, they came to libraries, they exterminated, one might say, ukrainians , ukrainian books, a lot of photos on the network with such and such photo facts and recently i heard such a definition of ukrainian culture - it is not only about our history

about our language is about the fact that the nation is directed to the future when it is not aristocrats not oligarchs not monarchs who rule and when the majority rules and that is exactly what the occupiers are trying to destroy, to destroy the russians , that is why they are trying to destroy books in democracy as we know democracy always works well only when there is an educated and conscious majority , that is, democracies are different. otherwise, democracies work badly. and by the way , what was the strength of the left ideologies of the beginning of the 20th century, the first socialists, to whom, by the way, belonged for a longer time our ivan franko, this is precisely the idea that the masses of the people, like kaz at that time, must be raised to the level of the national intelligentsia so that everyone can give himself advice , have his own conclusions, and so on

, that is, an educated voter . people used to go to them happily, and now things have changed a little bit. populists are somehow winning, and populists don't need an educated majority. they don't need people who read books. even in this, the problem is that everything is correct. the thing is that the politics of influence through culture - it does not give quick results influencing through culture is a long game it is an influence through the subconscious precisely because that is why our ancestors, for example , valued taras taras shevchenko so much because they unconsciously understood the power of the poetic word, the power of the printed word, that is why books are important and that's why the book publishing industry and libraries are also important. by the way, i recently

spoke before the international community of publishers and they were ah, well, not that they were shocked by the numbers that i gave because more than 200 libraries were completely destroyed and now libraries simply need books, and this is a big problem, for example, now thanks to the cabinet of ministers' resolution on the prohibition of capital expenditures and libraries, now even if money goes to library accounts, for some reason it is forbidden to buy books, and this is a problem, because we all see the importance of books especially in wartime , because ukrainian identity is impossible without a book, and we see the importance of libraries , those people who were temporarily displaced, they

understand that a library is a book that gives well, a kind of feeling of home, both here in ukraine and abroad . by the way, just remembering taras shevchenko, whose birthday ukraine celebrated the day before yesterday, and even the russians celebrated with their biggest missile attack this year . they couldn't congratulate us, but not this one, but look there are now a lot of fake poems by taras shevchenko on social networks about what he allegedly wrote about muscovites and so on, because he wrote about muscovites, he wrote like this. then came the muscovites who were envious of the muscovite, and it was as if he really was a man walking like an orphan with pale eyes and stained lips, and somewhere there was a moment when one almost felt sorry

for him. and if you come closer, dear friends, then he is a beast, i am not telling our viewers that taras shevchenko the birthday of taras hryhorovych shevchenko, many ukrainians spread this poem, being one hundred percent convinced that these are words that belong to kobzar, and this is not his work. therefore , before spreading something, check, god. yes google almighty, sorry, mr. viktor, the cry of the soul, i want to say that this is a typical, well, you can say operations from ips, operations from information propaganda, for example, few people know that at one time we studied taras's tubercle at school, then you still have it more than 100 years ago, the tsarist censorship was replaced words and added another characteristic of the cossacks they were called in taras bulba the leading russian power there was the final speech of taras bulba about the orthodox faith and under the tsar almost

every chapter of taras bulba was ideologically changed and this is a problem that we need to get rid of all this now, you know that in libraries, well, that is, i gave another example of the importance of the importance of books and how russian propaganda understands the importance and now in our ukrainian libraries, according to various estimates, from 12 to 20 million books have been published already published by russian publishing houses after 2000. that is, this is an insane number of books, and libraries are ready to write off these books, but the problem is that there is nothing to replace them, because new books simply do not reach libraries now, and that is

the big problem is that we must not only speak in words about the importance of the culture of ukrainian identity, but must also support it at all levels and with real steps , just imagine. to replace the minimum in our libraries and that and the fact that books are important is clear what can we talk about the law on digital certificates that was consciously adopted by the verkhovna rada and was signed by the president during the war last year in the summer of last year i i will remind our tv viewers that we are talking about the fact that all teenagers who have reached the age of 14 should be given a digital certificate for the purchase of books and all parents who

have a baby, unfortunately, this is a law . today, like the law on supporting bookstores , it is not works due to a lack of funding, but i want to say that the money that can be spent on supporting ukrainian culture is a very not very small amount compared to the impact with this profound effect on the cities of our people, so i do not understand why the ministry of finance does not fulfills fulfills the law. you know someone said this phrase and i believe in it that we will return and liberate our territories, but without the return of ukrainian culture to the liberated territories, it is impossible, it is impossible, the real return of these territories, that is why it is very important to think about the book and

the book publishing house industry, because this is not about territories, we are talking a little about minds , in fact, at the very end, we literally have a minute and we have a minute left, mr. viktor, can we say that the ukrainian book is now a full-scale invasion, as if we have everything is changing in ukrainian politics in approaches to ukrainian can we say that ukrainian books now feel 100% protected in ukraine so that it is doing well ukrainian book publishers are doing well i want to say that on the one hand i am very pleased that ukrainian books are read and they are in demand not only in ukraine , abroad, abroad, by our citizens , by our temporarily displaced persons.

half, that is, think about the past year, 0.3 books per reader were published in ukraine, this is very little, well, let's say it is a real disaster, and if something is not done at the state level, it will be a big problem. well, i know about that that there are also estimates that up to 36% and again this market is still being bitten by illegal supplies of gray russian book printing. i want to remind you that on june 19, the verkhovna rada adopted the final version of the law banning the import of russian books, the president had it it was voted by 36 votes. that is, it is like a constitutional majority, so the president in this situation could, in principle, still veto this law, and he has

15 days according to the law, according to the constitution. we are not even 22, but the 23rd year has already passed for more than six months and there are already a lot of appeals, there is an open letter to president zelensky in order to somehow react to the situation well, okay, well, there is a constitution and it was signed by volodymyr vasylenko, the compiler and author of the declaration on state sovereignty, a professor and yuliya kyrychenko, the co-chairman of the resuscitation package of reforms, one of the greatest constitutionalists of ukraine, victor shishkin, the first general of independent ukraine , the prosecutor general, and mykhailo zhernakov, whom we know well, doctor of legal sciences, chairman of the board of the deyura foundation, andriy magera, in a word, heaps it is people, first of all, who are

lawyers and constitutionalist lawyers who are overwhelmed by this fact. well, of course, there are many figures from the culture of book publishers who what is happening with that draft law, the law, and it is not clear to us why it is still on well, i am already silent that this is already the 8th or 9th year of the war , but it has been more than a year of a full-scale invasion, and we are allowed to import and sell books from russia. i understand that now is the fastest there is no official import, but pirates under various labels print russian books , and even in the bookstores of kyiv and lviv, in shopping centers, you can find books that are sold in russian and not just in russian, they were published in russia and this is a huge problem for me. it is not clear to me why the law banning russian books

has not yet entered into force. it has not yet been signed. attention , i hope there will be some kind of decision in the end. in us and in us olena kuk is the director of the online content and communication project, the online platform, the witness joins us olena, we welcome you to our air, i know olena from our work on other tv channels, but now olena is new mission, what kind of online platform is this and how many such testimonies about war crimes have already been collected or how easy is it? on the contrary, people go to contact to tell some of their stories that they experienced during this full-scale invasion. congratulations. yes, this is a platform that preserves the memories of ukrainians about war about everything they experienced and it is actually very

important for us that why why is it important to do this at all so why is it important to save it because now people mostly describe everything they experienced on social networks and this is the most unreliable platform because indeed, memories or posts there can either be banned from social networks themselves or simply disappear there, for example, i was looking for videos from the first days of a full-scale invasion and it is already very difficult to find really specific videos, therefore our main goal is to preserve all these stories so that, well, in fact , it never it didn't happen again so that in 100 years people could actually go in and read first-person accounts of this history of people and also