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when walking, and the innovative insole will provide additional comfort . dear tv viewers, on the air of espresso tv channel, program studio event , we will analyze the most important events of this week and we will try to predict the further course of events, our guests are former members of the state duma video blogger mark feigin and former deputy minister of foreign affairs of belarus, a figure of the belarusian opposition andriy sannikov, now on the espresso tv channel, mark feigen, a figure of the russian opposition in exile , a former deputy of the state duma, a well-known video blogger , glory to ukraine mark, i congratulate you to the heroes, the glory of the council , greetings to everyone, welcome to anton bakhmut, what do
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you think? why did putin get into bakhmut so hard and bloody? why are they deploying this absolutely crazy, senseless meat grinder? we understand that russian interventionists are dying in countless numbers. but all the same they stick and stick, i explain it to myself in this way that in the last change of command i mean the return of the actual head of the general staff of the army general gerasimov well, in general, the role of shoigu is more significant than it was under the previous leadership , the previous leadership in the person of the raw material mne it seems that somehow they agreed on some minimal task that they must perform, this is a new command , a new command of the so-called special military operation, and i think the goal is
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to reach the borders of the donetsk region that is, in relation to the luhansk region, it seems that they believe that they have it under full occupation control. we have it. but the donetsk region needs to be completed and come out more sharply for some negotiations, because i imagine that this is all done in races , that after bakhmut, i am not there i know, at the end of the following cities , they are also going to go to kiev. she refuses, but still she herself refuses, but still, there must be some sense in this, and i see that they want to leave donbass behind. in any case , they can make parts of the zaporozhye region, perhaps kherson region, with an exchange card, but they will refuse donbass they can't crimea and donbass - these are such important points, understanding what is going on, and
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for the command of the armed forces, in turn , it is completely clear. a counteroffensive by the armed forces of the ukrainian armed forces is possible in 5 weeks, maybe in 7 weeks. 7 weeks is the maximum time to wait until the offensive of the armed forces of ukraine begins. russian troops are fighting near bakhmut, but of course they cannot be immediately transferred somewhere, they were looking at tokmak or melitopol. well, that is, they will continue to be in the battle zone in the east, precisely bahmut, therefore, for the russian command, for the russian kremlin, it is important to take the entire donbass. well, that is, there is the donetsk luhansk region in order to get this negotiating position. well, as we closed it, it is already our region, so agree to
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the peace plans, we are ready to lead some kind of exchange, but this is very logically, this is such an important explanation. well, because everyone else is talking about how they say this is a war of attrition, it is important to translate it into a positional one, but they will not be able to keep these territories if ukraine receives the declared amount weapons and will first carry out a counter-offensive operation, that is, its already an operation to deoccupy the lands for yoga, then she will still take the east . as such, you will not take kiev and you will not keep these territories, but i think that the whole strategy is built precisely on achieving the maximum possible result, and the occupation of the entire donbass, and make it the object of negotiations with that's the point of view. well, they will understand the geopolitical realities like krym
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, which voted for you in the 14th year, something else, mark , but it's stubborn to tell the citizens of the russian federation how it's all about selling , because they were told about the new territories of the russian federation and so on and so on, we understand which propaganda machine did not go . i just don't know how they would manage to jump out of that where they drove themselves, but on the other hand, these are their problems, here another equally important scenario is possible - this is the one you mentioned yes i don't know what it's called. the peace plan is not a plan, because from time to time they give out some fake signals. yes, but when the chinese got involved , everything became even more complicated, because as far as we understand, it is not russia that wants to use china, but china is ready to use russia as a certain do you understand a crazy
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bull terrier with a bloody face, we want a rocket for moscow, yes, and you can be one of them, and for this you need to gain full control over the donbas, gaining such support as beijing, perhaps moscow thinks that the position of the western press will move faster in the direction of negotiations, and here , in turn, kiev will be undermined, well , it seems logical to me, this is the only explanation of the second question and what does beijing get as a result of this ? well, well, beijing gets control over moscow. control over moscow is of the necessary degree, therefore, it is still there. donbass or without donbass, to be honest, he will definitely also agree with sovereign ukraine regarding his economic interests, but to pretend to
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expand. there is no real possibility in pyatiny there, not in donbass, nor in crimea, and why, because pyatiny has all the opportunities for economic expansion here is not entirely clear, perhaps this is a game for moscow itself, and it is only trying to gain the support of beijing in this game. who will act as a lawyer for the interests of the kremlin, the only explanation for this is that beijing sent its emissary so that vani toured europe. he visited everywhere and began to give various signals, then they rolled out their script. but i understand that this script is the official part of it, it is empty, you understand, if there were some additional issues that would have been discussed orally . it would have been something else. and i do not rule out that it is possible, and it is because, well, you know, this is the chinese plan, it is like the stalinist constitution
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he is about everything and nothing, yes, i have heard that i agree even more. but there is no memorandum. unfortunately, there are 12 principles. well, it is clear. in principle, the first principle is that there is observance of international law , so all the others are not necessary . international law, that is, internationally recognized borders, is the sovereignty of countries of state integrity . well-known in the principle of international law enshrined in the founding document of the un china is also a permanent member of the security council, the right of veto with all the attributes that obligate underlining oblige beijing to be the guarantor of the system of international law and security, well, how does one manage this second question ? well, what? well, if you recognize that there is between recognized established borders, yes , including ukraine. khersonskaya zaporizhzhya oblasts, so then
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what are sanctions discussed here? here there is nothing to discuss over implementation. and if this is just a facade, by desire, it means some big geopolitical game , as a result, which means that someone has more pieces on this chessboard, and someone has less. well, then put up with what will be the answer it is a little better for you. yes, it is possible that one of the versions is beijing. to wait there for ten years, and the remaining sonpin means his third five-year term. contrary to the general tradition of the change of power, the secretary of the communist party of the communist party of china, and for some reason he decided to mark it with some achievements of such a geopolitical nature.
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do it immediately and no one will do it , also no one will do it, so that beijing participates in peaceful negotiations on ukraine on the war there on an equal footing with the united states , why would the united states, europe, nato there internationally, they consider themselves full-fledged participants in this negotiation process, since they are involved in it . why should beijing be involved? what didn't prevent putin when he arrived. the canon of aggression against ukraine at the olympics. if anyone remembers february 4 , 2022, they obviously said something. even though now the opposite is being confirmed, and something beijing expected for a year, it expected that ukraine would go, well, yes, and then
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even more so. why should you become involved in this process after this year? the cessation of killings, and if you waited for your own interests, this is not international law and not the desire to ensure security, this is just parasitism in such an international conflict, so i think that the usa, in principle , has set itself the task of not letting people into such the more you see the peace process and the peaceful tasting of this war, the more you will understand how everything can be blackmailed by beijing is the supply of some types of weapons to moscow , the components, the connection of the components , parts of some parts for the components for the military equipment, for the weapons. all business and china will pay much more because if there are already sanctions against it, then you understand how else can russia exist in what kind of czech state with distributive
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elements in the economy, china is considering it the scale of the development of the topics is simple and well, let’s say that the demographics of 1.5 billion are fed with something, people need to be occupied with something, then there will definitely be a monstrous collapse, so this is a very risky game on the part of beijing, either he is very convinced that this game will succeed, or he is taking a risk by hopelessness, you understand that there are absolutely some things that beijing involved in all of this before, it was absolutely not characteristic of china, it kept aloof from major conflicts , take any of them regarding iraq and two wars in general beijing does not at all, although this is a region of south asia. why would it not get involved? well, the middle east. south asia will involve it in this conflict after the war . conflict, he has to behave otherwise, everything he wants to get, he
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has already received . why do it, maybe the third version is a long game, a long-playing game, a game that is long. and these are just maneuvers to show symbolically the readiness of beijing to escalate with the west as such, but in fact, beijing will not go to such an escalation at all. i agree with you here, there are certain symptoms that indicate that it would not be too profitable for china in that situation when it is already banking and sweeping everything that russia can offer from the table into its pocket and here i also agree with you, mark, so to speak about certain parameters of some peaceful negotiations in quotation marks, these are rather ephemeris at the moment. we have not heard a single clear proposal from the russian federation, and this is one time, and if they wanted, so to speak, to lead to something, they would
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start to form some minimal party of peace . instead, they pack and pack everyone and they are squeezing out of the country and competitions are taking place, who is more in the jury , and competitions are taking place between the madmen, both in rhetoric and in concrete actions . they already want to repeat lavrov in different ways, putin repeats it one way or another, all the other officials there are lower in the morning and no one believes them, the west reacts that this is all a lie, this is all an attempt to delay time, win additional opportunities, some, well, purely related to the acquisition of weapons on the side here they say that iran is putting some things in place to try diplomatically to delay the moment of making certain decisions . well, for example, about the tribunals of the un general assembly
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. there are some terminal decisions to be canceled later, it will be very, very difficult, and they will lead to corresponding consequences. at least at the start, they will attract the most negative consequences for themselves, but i repeat that either this is hopeless, this is important. there will still be years of war there, and i am more inclined to this, or it is some kind of suggestion from china . environment, let's somehow come to some solutions because otherwise you will simply
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lose and you will lose and your territory there and your interests and your zones of influence may be ceded to completely different players, by the way , among others, very soon, ukraine which can deal with belarus and moldova after the end of the war and make it part of the peace plan. what cannot be ruled out . well, i mean transnistria and the lukashenko regime in minsk. it is already entropy, it is spreading to russia, that is, whether it wants to or not , but the so-called bryansk happened the forest appeared there, so to speak, the wife of russian citizens who volunteered to support ukraine, the story is generally quite murky and we understand in what way the kremlin would like to use it but it is possible
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there is already a sense of some kind of internal russian feedback, the case is very difficult. you know, such things are never simple . there is a lot of mixing, you know, so i am not here with even more conspiracies than she is. of course , it is natural. well, it is a simple question, and to what extent did the ukrainian special services help russian volunteers corps yes, and to what extent there are groups in the bryansk region and not only in it that cooperate with the ukrainian special services with the same rdk and simply citizens and simply ukrainians are taken to russia yes, but they try not to settle in the border territories , they are there. there are certainly no ukrainians who were taken from the occupied territories to russia. of course there are no, but still, there are some people with whom there is communication and internal security agencies . there are people who, in principle, can help . ukrainian intelligence or the same rdk or some such structures, a good question, by the way, is what are the different moods among the russian chekists, so to speak
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, everything goes to their interests, or maybe from they are quite capable of doing interesting things in general, and they help and hand over, you know, somewhere on the border, they can open the gate in any way, but i want to say that of course this operation was not a military operation in the full sense. on the channel, the commander happens to be rex. they say he is the same. it was a promotional campaign . they can't do that, they achieved it, they showed that, so to speak, armed people are completely different people than bela, the opposition tapes, which we actually talked about more than once, that the men with automatic machines are a completely different opposition , the military opposition, or something else. the second question cooperates and how do they hide and listen to ukrainian ? it doesn't matter at all. it doesn't matter at all. it doesn't matter
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that you can go to russia, and that, uh, that's what, so to speak, serious resistance to at the first stage, they will not meet this fact. i think that this information played a very important role for many people. i think that for the western special services and for western observers , military experts, etc. , it became completely obvious that the conviction is that nothing like this will happen to russia and no one will invade its territory, among other things, it led to the fact that even the border that you protect yourself and the forces of serious means 20 km from the border with ukraine , with which you are at war , there is nothing there. to be on this territory and there is little that the russian special services can do, well, we understand why they are talking because the border troops belong to the department of border troops in russia to the fsb, the fsb is, as it were , a part of the fsb, and on the eve of this story, we remember very well that there was a board in particular
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of the russian security forces but where did putin separate the tasks for the border guards of the fsb that they should guard the border and so on, it is possible, so to speak, that they were digging under bortnikov, the head of the fsb, in order to remove him from his position, so to speak. well but this is one moment, and the second moment is also extremely interesting, and maybe they would like to use this somewhere about the kremlin in their internal process of organizing the mobilization impulse, look , you can be attacked, dear citizens of the fatherland, the dangers of the trotskyists are forming, so to speak, squads, well, look at the struggle they it stops and it doesn't stop in the fsb and in so-called other forces, structures between the fsb and the army there. and so on
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caused by the desire to blame oneself for some things to transfer the strelky, this is usual. what is happening, yes, putin spoke at this fsb colleague, and fsb colleagues - this is what you know in secret. power in russia , the main bodies of the fsb colleagues - this is the head of the fsb, they actually determine everything practically because, well, in part , the security council carries this function, but there are practically the same people, except for some ritual leaders , medvedev sits on the security council because something they decide that some role is played, but the fsb colleagues have specific generals, you know, in addition to the well-known bortnikov , there are all kinds of royals sitting there who, in general , have a decisive influence on a lot of things . those who target and there are those who collectively protect some interests there within themselves separately, all this is , but the question remains the same that the war
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continues to remain in the war of putin himself , and not the apparatus of power, the apparatus of power and he doesn’t pick up on his own desire to share the responsibility for this for everything. it seems to me that this is a very important moment. and that’s why putin actually doesn’t try because of the conflict to dream of bortnikov and that bortnikov calmly steps aside and bears more responsibility, he wants them to stay and shoigu and patrushev and bortnikov and gerasimov remained to share this responsibility with him, he is trying to involve them in the system in the orbit of these relations of responsibility, and otherwise why does he not fire them, they failed everything all together failed the company in ukraine, we discussed it many times , they fell out of gerasimovjoyga, and they were not fired, but returned to their same positions . так далее вместе весте and how why is it that i have to pay for everything
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well, yes, he accepted this decision, but it is paid, he wants them to pay everything. but do they want it, you know, therefore , bortnik can theoretically be in the eighth place maybe he would have jumped off, you know, he might have gone and said well, what, well, i’m the old man, they say that he has prostrates cut out there, i don’t know, it’s already rumors, yes, which are not confirmed by anything, but talk by talk , and in principle, that’s what they’re clinging to- one thing clings to victory if you won the war with ukraine and there you increased your officials, businessmen and so on. here they are occupying territories and exploiting ukraine , and if you lose everything and it is still unknown what will happen tomorrow, you know what they are they leave here bakh here is what kind of future bakhmut or solidar or such cities there are small or avdeivka вы платья на ети фотографии then this will be a personal war this is a war of the 17th century in particular when we are talking about bakhmut the russian general staff and
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the ministry of defense decided what the question of the wagnerites so did prigozhina. that is, we see how this star that swelled up swelled to some political size began to swell and as far as we understand, so to speak , the classical military begins to completely sweep under itself a certain space. and prigozhina if he succeeds in overthrowing, well, they will find some hacienda in africa that he will guard, well, he willingly hints that this is a pass to the ministry of defense, the fsb, to the general staff , and so on. he openly says that nothing has changed in terms of the projectile hunger and everything else , a few recordings and the last ones are video and audio, well, he recorded the video, first of all
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, around the tank somewhere in the warehouses. i didn't understand the light bulb, where he directly says that there won't actually be a wagner attack, the enemy will cross almost to moscow. well, that is, to the border . you want to spend us. but if there is no one who will protect you, well, the president. this is how i translate it into this language, and most likely these are all his appeals. they are addressed to one single person, to putin, and putin does not have a mobile phone and he does not have a computer. he uses and that's why he doesn't know anything and they don't carry anything in putin 's red suit aha that's exactly what's happening and now something is already happening, the conman from this certainly feels great satisfaction and he likes fakes the entire generals they hate him well, the president's administration is the same as them too a pencil case with his feet, therefore, if the beauty has no
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resources left , they will all be spent precisely on bakhmut. 5,800 people die in some days, almost up to 2,000. that's what it is. i believe it's not because, in addition to the actual fierce fighting , there is another very important thing that the general staff and the ministry of defense need to do to ensure that there are no prisoners left. so that there are no dudes left alive at all, so that the beauty has five people left, you know, it will be even easier to deal with him, right. so here it is logic and apparatus and military . mark for this extremely interesting and meaningful conversation, and i would like to remind our viewers that mark feigen, a figure of the russian opposition in emigration, was working for them on the air of the espresso channel, an iconic video blogger, and of course a former member of the state duma. thank you mark. thank you
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anton. thank you to all viewers, our current guest andriy sannikov, former deputy minister of foreign affairs of belarus belarusian opposition figure in exile former political prisoner lukashenka long live belarus glory to ukraine mr. andrii i congratulate you i congratulate you good evening, it is extremely disturbing a message from our main intelligence department under the ministry of defense, military intelligence officers say that some kind of powerful provocation is being prepared in a couple of days, literally , one of the leading russian propagandists solovyov should arrive in belarus, and most likely something large-scale can be done . these concerns are because the lukashenko regime is a full-fledged participant in the war against ukraine in the russian
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war against ukraine, that is, it is as an aggressor, they will forget that he gives all his territory to the kremlin militarily and did not give how today from the airfield the very same one that became known after the incident with the russian avaks took off 31, this is the same fighter that is capable of carrying hypersonic missiles, a dagger, that is, the actions are not friendly, this is so while on the part of lukashenko, they are continuing all the time. i want to remind you that once again the so-called maneuvers have been manipulated by the military during the war. preparation for a military operation is in no way a doctrine of peacetime , and they would like to remind you that it has been going on for almost an hour, that is , these non-stop maneuvers, which are extended by order of the kremlin , of course because they
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