[000:00:00;00] on this road of the cross, they say, reconcile with each other. that is, he puts the victim and the aggressor next to each other and there. well, he says that imperial sentiments fuel imperial sentiments not only in russia, in a word, all his statements during the year and here are the willingness to go and the signals that i am ready to go, why putin will not invite him to his place. it would be beneficial for him to invite the pope to sit at the table and say, i am talking with the pope in the night territory of the orthodox church. this will be perceived by the russians as treason, that is, putin is losing his authority today among all the more.

in general, you already know how to saw off the branch that has already broken, on which he sits, that is, under putin, the pope in russia will not be one hundred percent . i have doubts even if some new president comes. well, he is not handsome, but from the democratic camp. they will agree and allow the pope to enter their territory , you know this. well, some such a man is somewhere in the subconscious, a concept that they simply cannot survive, overcome , to agree means that there will be no foot of a catholic schismatic on our territory, because that we ourselves recognize that catholics are equal within the borders of christians, and the russians always said that it was the catholics who violated this unity of christianity. and only today

is the russian unity that remains faithful to that primitive christianity actually know how to undermine all the foundations on which the concept of the russian world is based and holy russia and in general this spiritual kremlin, that is, with kadyrov, who is not a christian. everything is okay , but with the pope, who is roman , who is a christian. in the 18th year, only because we, as a ukrainian church, received a tomos. that is, there in the heads, you know, there are some complicated processes going on. returning to strymusovo, with which we started our conversation with saint strymausius, those who know him say that the man was a terribly convinced pagan before the end of his short and talentless life , so it is strange that olivier is in the heads, this is a very, very express question, of course there is no time for espresso tv, madam, your attitude to the idea

of ​​renaming the russian federation to muscovy well, i work with historical sources and for me it was absolutely normal . when you read muscovy, muscovy, and remember our taras shevchenko, he also used this very concept, russia itself, the title of russia. by the way , it appeared in peter i's head, who forcibly renamed his state things from the kyiv-mohyla academy , the very nature of these yavorsky and prokopovych people is a shame. i don't know what drove them . well, it's definitely not money. well, maybe it's a secret . we still have to solve it. but this the mistake of the 15th century must be corrected, it is not so strong and ancient as the muscovites were muscovites and should remain

at least in our language what they call themselves there their already problems although i don’t know and martians ms. lyudmylo thank you very much for the conversation you thought filipovich philosophy religious scholar and doctor of philosophical sciences was with us, but now we continue the topic of christianity and talk about our smaller brothers who also need our protection in these difficult times olga tsyganyuk operations director co-founder of the public organization of the humanist movement ua animals, we are joined by mrs. olya, we are glad to see you on our airwaves. i am also glad to know that we have you this week. well, first of all, this photo is not ours - it is a video of a dog that was left in the ruins of the owner who was his home and

who misses his owners who were killed by a russian missile, this photo flew all over ukraine and was found right away. it's like they called her to treat her and they are also looking for a new owner or owner for her, and there such activity has developed , i don't know yet, i have the impression that people will buy from one person the opportunity to become the owner of this orphaned dog, but when we talked about this case on the air such a huge number of kremlebots rushed in and they were so outraged and surprised by it , saying that we are somehow here and they began to make fun of some of our volunteers, you know that they are dealing with the fate of the dog, they began to say oh there they think about the dog, not about the fact that people die in them, but you have probably

already seen various cases of animal abuse this year, it is not only russian dogs. are there any cases that simply shocked you, they knocked you off your feet, and well, here in ukraine too not all people are saints, there were and are some hunters who hunt, torture animals, kill them. but was there anything that for your practice ? in years you can't surprise anything, but this war is so bad, it makes no sense, and it surprises and shocks me the most. well, personally and in general, we were struck by an uncertain specific case and a set of these specific cases and cases when we realized that

the animals are actually being exterminated purposefully and that this is not a consequence wars and this is a consequence of war but not only because there are military actions going on somewhere, and animals in fact, and in addition to the fact that they die as a result if they are exterminated purposefully and here are all the perverted cases that there were when dogs' paws were cut off when the chickens were taken upside down, the gallows were raised and left to die, well, this is about such ridiculous abuses about the shooting of dogs when they entered some territories. yes, there in the kyiv region, we know such stories . what is the reason for that, that's why, yes, it's about sick people's perception, they actually came here to exterminate, capture, destroy

, destroy our nature, when the question is raised there, well, it's just that sometimes they seize territories at power plants they hold on and you understand that at any moment a catastrophe can happen that will destroy huge areas of people, animals, plants and everything else. of course, this is amazing, that's why we already have such a whole set separately, of course, it is very painful to see animals in territories where there are practically no people. yes, he stops by to see what his house looks like. yes, if it is left and there are many animals there, and they are all thin and in a terrible condition, they need help with feeding. of wild kasvian animals. this is also one of those things that we deal with, we try to orientate everyone, that is why

, unfortunately, there is no shortage of bad stories, we have a lot of them . russia has paid for it when it is sure to do so and we will have the support of the office of the president of the general . the destruction of people, the territories of entire cities, is the destruction of animals for which they must be responsible, because in fact, in addition to the fathers , we see dogs on the streets who suffer greatly from injuries and from hunger and from stress, they are very stressed from loud sounds, because

we have the disappearance of whole species, because when they were still in these territories, we have these emissions , burning of foxes is suffering, and wildlife is suffering in some places, the unique nature of ukraine, which is valued all over the world, and this is all a chain that captures the entire ecosystem the whole planet of all territories, and even now we know that dozens of species of animals can simply disappear as a species precisely as a result of the war, you know. we have seen all kinds of different footage and even the russians have gone so far as to film how they shoot a ukrainian soldier, but we just saw here are these shots with animals and still frost on the skin, there is still something that just cannot leave you either hard-skinned or somehow indifferent or detached because it somehow still pierces you say that the goals disappear species that are important in the whole ecosystem not only of ukraine but also of the whole world, and we know

that such movements for the protection of animals are very powerful abroad. is there any support from them from those people who are so concerned about nature , for example there and they say that people should not fly planes, but when russia's aggression against ukraine begins, for some reason they keep quiet and then they don't talk about the fact that these explosions are constant, this is mined, the seas are mined - this all affects our nature, and even then we somehow do not hear their appeals to the russian authorities to stop all this, you are saying everything correctly, it is true that if we talk even purely from the point of view of ecology, it is terrible what is happening here. i would say that there is support , but rather at the level of the study of this issue, i would like it much, much more actually animals from this also collects demonstration actions abroad from the states

to france in completely different countries, but they are all organized by ukrainians. that is , they are all ukrainians who left. well, we actually organize with those who left and are there. it is enough to involve the community it is difficult sometimes because of such bureaucratic flexibility, you know what surprises everyone there is that sometimes you have to make an appointment abroad and wait for a doctor for a week conditionally, well, in the best case, yes, sometimes for months or six months, that’s about the story. because we, well, we organize all this very quickly, we are used to it. yes, there is a problem , we went, organized, conducted, etc. and for them , everything is very difficult, they are difficult to climb, they have their own plans, which they follow, that's why

well, unfortunately, my personal opinion is that there is very little support, in fact there is none, but this is something that needs to be worked on, that is, it is always a question of publicity, it is a question of dialogues and reporting even more. mrs. olya, at the end of the conversation, i put something in my 5 kopecks. well, 100%, you probably have moments . well, maybe they don't. i don't know when someone tells you. but here, people die in droves every day. and you are there with some dogs, why are you you are taking away resources and time from something more important. you probably have an answer to this. something happened to the connection. i suspect that someone called ms. olga at the very moment when she came to us on the air. and it sometimes breaks the connection. now i will try contact our directors again olga chyganyuk this is the operations

director and co-founder of the public organization until we restart the connection i see a direct connection in fact between the fact that a person shows humanity to animals and shows humanity to other people that's well but but that's a question yes it important i think we can still hear an answer to him, it would be good if not, then tell me i will introduce you to the thoughts of the best russian analyst at the moment, so at the moment they cannot restore contact , so officially now the person with the highest iq of 54 points is oleg tsarev a former ukrainian citizen, well, all the other smart people have already been mobilized , died or fled the country. well, the penultimate one was this guy who became a citizen of turkmenistan . varlamov

was the one who became a citizen of turkmenistan. yes, he is. you will get a haircut there, you can only walk there with a haircut, he says, i have already agreed, i will pass my hair off for that turmen cap. well, it is neatly glued , thank god, look at what this great genius of thought says, oleg tsarev, and with the information voiced, it is clear that the offensive against ukraine they are seriously preparing for it, they made a serious and last bet now , there is a decent famine on both sides but if shells are placed in ukraine, but we don’t have them, then it will be very good, listen well listen, i have the impression that tsarev came here to the studio and as soon as he said it, he tried it even with that temper. listen , well, i didn't know mr. tsarev, we were familiar with each other.

are you andrii's question, or did it separate us? he asked, he asked. yes, i actually asked what you are probably told sometimes , why do you deal with those dogs ? people are dying here. what do you answer? not with dolphinariums don't teach people everything all the time, but you realized for yourself that in fact, this is said most often by people who do not fight for anything at all, but by people who support , that is, when politicians say that it is not time for reforms during the war, they simply do not gather their own to do never i don't know this is a very abstract question you have to look concretely point by point regarding your question well here and now yes during martial law after a full-scale invasion we have a very

simple example is that a large number we receive requests for rescuing animals, including for evacuation, from the military and, of course, if the military is under siege. are they somewhere at ground zero in other territories, in addition to the fact that they, i’m sorry , protect the country there, they save themselves, they live in terrible conditions all the time under stress at night, no they sleep they sleep in the trenches and so on and they even during all this seeing animals they really have thousands of such stories that they are really trying to save them somewhere they need to sew someone up treat them somewhere to feed, sometimes we want to hand over fodder, they say yes, no, we will somehow decide, we will find, we will buy, sometimes if this is a question, yes, there is some acutely ill dog, he asks you to take him out , or, for example, some wild wild animal , for example, a lion that was kept for a certain time, well,

at home, in a building or at a restaurant, yes, how is it unfortunately, what happens in ukraine and everything around is destroyed. and now there is only one cage left of this animal. the animals have been sitting there for weeks. they are asking us to take them out and help in this, that is, we can always and everywhere. drive through if there is shelling, they accompany us and help in such matters, this is about humanity, this is about the fact that every life is important, and this is about the fact that the russians come here to destroy, and we here protect and defend everything that is in ukraine at the expense of this is the truth, this is the truth thank you very much for this answer , mrs. olya olga chemenyuk, questions, operational director and co-founder of the public organization of the humanist movement ua nimas, was with us. well, we continue our broadcasts and now

we will talk about culture and about the national the shevchenko prize, which decided for some reason that it was not in time to be in march, they decided to move it to announce the laureates in may, on the day of shevchenko's reburial, but then something went wrong and the laureates were announced in separate nominations volodymyr vyatrovych, historian, publicist, public figure, and people's deputy of ukraine appears on our air, mr. volodymyr. good day to you. good day. it was somehow so unexpected with the shevchenko prize that it was like focus in the circus . it was quite unpleasant, not just unexpected, because it looked like an attempt to break yet another institution, a procedure, and thus another important tradition, because the shevchenko prize is just that example of the regeneration of a rather old tradition, the positive regeneration

of a rather old tradition was selected according to some new approaches, this is the shevchenko committee and it seems to me that in recent years it has really begun to perform, well, a much deeper function of uniting among the laureates those people who have done very a lot in order to develop ukrainian culture, so what happened this year, well, it looked very unexpected and very unpleasant and very strange and confused, to be honest, the explanations of the head of the shevchenko committee. i mean mr. yury makarov, who suddenly on a day when everyone expected that laureates will be named announced that there are no laureates will not be announced instead we decided to introduce a new additional nomination i have nothing against any additional nomination it is obvious that it should be done in advance and not change the rules of the game during

this is the first of the game itself, although the nomination itself is rather strange, it is about contributing to our victory. it seems to me that all these nominations in the context of the current war are all aimed at contributing to our victory . that there is no presidential decree and that the shevchenko committee has been silent for nearly two days , the situation is beginning to improve. we received information from the shevchenko committee late yesterday evening with a list of the nominees by the way, for some reason it is strange that not all the nominees are, but there is still no presidential decree that would actually approve the results of the work of the shevchenko committee, therefore, unfortunately, it is impossible to say with certainty that this strange incident, well, you can't, at least from the positive side, you can say that i am sure that it is precisely this public reaction. was quite acute and led to the situation that, little by little, the situation is improving, and one of the members of the actual committee

, ostap slavynskyi, the poet, wrote that as he said, nothing and no one will be able to stop it the announcement of the laureates when the time has come is actually also an interesting quote and such an allusion is well known and also said that a member of the committee managed to save the boat from this award from some strange tricksters and ended this post with the latin proverb sapienti, the garden of the wise is enough. well, someone more frankly, he already said that most likely there was an attempt to put pressure on the members of the committee from the power of the president's office, probably because someone simply didn't like it and people passed by, or maybe there weren't those options that they would have liked

they were there, for example, in the president's office , because it wasn't there. i don't know anyone who is there now, how there is organizing a humorous offensive, etc. in the office of the president, in particular, one of them is already known. now, as a laureate, your colleague vitaly portnikov, who absolutely deserved this award, but obviously hardly has any special sympathy in the office of the president, on the other hand , there is obviously some desire to recognize someone from the president's close circle, because his entourage, the president of the entourage is formed from people who consider themselves to be just such a cultural beau monde, and it is obvious that the shevchenko prize is one of the few for which they did not claim any recognition. there was an awarding ceremony during which it was stopped suspended at least good good good that the situation

was evened out but unfortunately this did not happen on the day it was supposed to happen on march 9 but in any case i want to thank all the members of the shevchenko committee, who probably still found themselves in a difficult situation for them, but decided to listen to the voice and reason of society and procedures , and not to succumb to any pressure from the president's office, mr. volodymyr, but the shevchenko prize is about culture, why should representatives of the authorities it would be somehow to encroach on this award because it is important to them. well, first of all, i said that a lot of figures from the president's office consider themselves cultural figures. that is, they are people who went from showbiz to politics and obviously they believe that from their environment and those who deserve, secondly, it is obvious that this

award is still one of the most prestigious at the moment among ukraine in general, that is why there was actually a desire to receive this award. we have also seen very strange things in recent months connected with the award policy of even such solid structures and the main intelligence department, why not try to somehow change the situation related to the awarding of the shevchenko prize. fits into the general trend of breaking procedures, the general trend of breaking some traditions, you know, when it suddenly became louder, some incomprehensible day of unity was celebrated on february 16 instead of zluka day, on january 22, when in our country the day of statehood suddenly begins to replace independence day. that is, it is such a strange approach when the new government is already in place well, it is not a very new government, but those who came to

the helm of the state in the 19th year consider themselves to start everything from scratch, start everything from scratch and any traditions, even if they are traditions in fact, they are very important from the point of view of some strengthening of the state, they simply neglect these traditions, they break these traditions, if we speak even more broadly, then obviously other analogies can be given here, when procedures are broken and some law enforcement agencies, anti-corruption bodies that should maintain their independence are bypassed, are bypassed the office of the president, absolutely not taking care of the fact that in this way the basic function of these bodies is essentially destroyed, but why invent a bicycle if it already exists more he was already driving, then you can only tighten something there and ok, he drives on . yes, i am really a very good phrase popular among programmers , if it works, it is in the forest, but unfortunately, this is not

about many representatives of our government, who consider issues of economy, politics, culture it is necessary to start changing something, well, again, i will draw analogies with the state film committee and the dovzhenka center , that is, there is an institution that works, there are institutions that do useful work. well, nevertheless, i want to do something so that that person appears there as the main merit of which is loyalty to the leadership of the state, just for the sake of remembering, changing the anthem, changing the coat of arms with the flag, i don't remember. well, it seems that they did not come up with the idea of ​​turning it over or something else and renaming the country to rus, or whatever the idea was and then, as you already said, duplicate the independence day, duplicate the anthem day and the day of the cathedral, the day of the cathedral

, and that is, in fact, duplicate everything. and this is me , i just, well, i feel that this is some kind of process, it is not spontaneous, it is not spontaneous, that is, here are the features of this. it is absolutely bolshevik some kind of approach and here the peculiarities of this that we are dealing with a team that does not have any social and political background behind it and for it these are all the things that happened in the country until 2019, they simply did not exist. so until 2019, this country supposedly lived no institutions will finally come, let's come and here we will bring some important order in the country, well, this is absolutely bolshevik our way out, but now we see that lesya wrote recently there on the 10th it seems that taras petrynenko turned 70 years old, and a well-known

ukrainian singer kisha in 1975 he actually managed to make music in that, in that censorship, brutal somewhere there, kyivpasttrans, in some communal via assigned to do fantastic things there, and well, no, i’m not talking about the fact that there are no prophets in my homeland now , my country does not appreciate heroes, as polozhinsky sang, i’m talking about something else, in principle and there are 6,000 people who liked this post and there are hundreds of those comments , and lesya, what are the people who write that wow, we have discovered petrinenko for ourselves, there are people who write wow, who is this such an interesting singer? well, and so on, but i say that. that is, but at the same time, ah no one, well, there is no such thing that someone did something, someone did something to you, but no, we want to listen to something. what we will create just now. and this is, including, about this so -called bayraktarshchyna, which is currently being carried out of

all aphems, that is, the most primitive text the most primitive, but it comes in, but there should be a set, a set of words is required, but ukraine, galina, independence, and for the hype, you can mention bender , and for sure, in fact, we are, unfortunately, these works, so to speak, are created by the same people who flip flops 10 000 hours you know developed on some topic in a certain way they still manifest themselves and even if you change the kokoshnik to some ukrainian whisk, all the same, over time this tool will show through this whisk, so in fact for many people who have now started singing in ukrainian, praise them for singing in ukrainian but nevertheless it became a very