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[000:00:00;00] currency prices well, today is literally on the biulina. i always worry that i don't say something so stupid. what i say on the air and elvira nabiurina, the head of the central bank of russia, announced that for almost a year they will continue to limit currency transactions for legal entities and ordinary citizens of russia they are simple, these restrictions are that russians cannot buy currency. that's all . but there is another interesting point: you cannot withdraw more than $10,000 equivalent . it would seem that $10,000 is not a bad amount, but it is also for legal entities, that is, if you are a legal entity before the war with ukraine, you had 100 million dollars
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on deposit there , you can withdraw 10,000 if you have already spent it, yes, yes, just go for a walk, and in the big picture, this is what i always say . sanctions are possible only as they say for such side effects, yes, that is, i read the statistics. when they talk informally, for example, chicken producers, one of them wrote that earlier they shipped about 9 tons of chicken a month, now at best they ship one, what does this say? this says that people have stopped buying even such. we are not talking about meat, we are not talking about lard, we are not talking about pork, we are not talking about veal, which is much more expensive, we are talking about chicken, which is. their production has fallen, sales have fallen , this means that people have stopped buying
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, i.e. people are buying something else cheaper. well, blame me for my french. flavorings and dyes make the sausage so tasty and such and such and such and such things and show the situation that is taking place in russia. of course they will never say that they have increased prices, that they have increased inflation , they will not say the real exchange rate of the dollar, what they stopped and why they did not published because in russia as well as in ukraine, for the average citizen, the dollar exchange rate is still an indicator that either calms or excites, when the price is stationary, it means everything is fine, when the price starts to rise, everything is gone grew up, they understand, but on the other hand, they don't want to show the true picture because a slight panic will start, the kremlin doesn't want it, but everything is silent, everything is prosperous, but under this motto they live. well, you know what andriy magera, the former head of the central committee and a lawyer , a well-known ukrainian lawyer, a constitutionalist
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, says the average russian will gossip about how the country would be great and fight against the attack. you know this is the most terrible thing when i am asked when the money in russia will run out. i say, unfortunately, even when the money in the accounts will run out, andriy, why are you saying what my colleague magera said, we will starve, but we will fight, we are orthodox, we are strong, do you understand that this is the most terrible thing about the fact that these are abnormal papus troops of putin and the rest, well, on the other hand , it is certainly easier to declare, and when and quotes will end because we will see borscht whining not with quotes, we
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will be on our air now. netflix natalka yakymovych, producer of the film borscht, the secret ingredient, she joins us for the third or sixth hour today on the air, now it's about lard, then about borscht , now i want to eat natalya, we're glad to see natalka on our air, our colleague is also a journalist, but once she had the idea to immortalize ukrainian borscht in a documentary project and now that documentary project is getting into netflix that foreigners will learn about ukrainian borscht from this documentary . natal, we're fine, fine, fine, fine. well, i'll try to fight him. okay, look, the most important thing is that they know not
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only about, but also learn about ukraine , because the task of this project was not to show some culinary story, only a culinary story about how cook borscht and give some recipe even though it is there and that is enough and it is not one recipe there are several at once and then there is the final recipe but the main thing is that this project it was about the unity of ukraine about what ukrainians are like about the fact that we are all very different about the fact that we have different views , political and religious but we are all ukrainians and this borscht is like a unifying theme, so this film is very important for ukraine i wish not in the context of culinary yes not because borscht is included in the heritage list unesco, first of all, because it is very interesting to see what ukraine is like, and you know, it is so difficult for me right now to even watch the teaser of the film that is currently on your screen, because i understand
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how much everything has changed over this year and how much all these landscapes have changed and cities and we had a shoot in mariupol, for example, it was not included there, the city itself was not included in the film, the final version was filmed there at the training ground, but there were a lot of photos left because we walked on the beaches there and it is such a pain to actually watch what happened to the country this year but here is the story about what it is about ukraine and i am very happy. i sometimes show this film to foreigners. actually, they are not so much impressed by the borscht itself , but impressed if you specify what exactly impresses them. after watching this tape, what exactly impresses them in ukraine in ukrainians because while you filmed this documentary, you traveled all over ukraine and
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in different parts of ukraine prepared different borschts and in this way told ukrainians first about ukraine , but now there is such a huge request from the whole world to find out what kind of people live in that country that resists russian aggression . the seventh year and the last year are so so victorious. in fact, they are what impresses them the most . well, look, first of all, the variety of landscapes is amazing. let's call it that because we filmed in the mountains. very exotic and we filmed in lviv, we filmed in odesa and it is a completely different picture and in fact everyone is very impressed that ukraine is so different because mostly foreigners have either been to the big cities in ukraine or see what they see now with the new one, these are some
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destroyed houses and we showed this mix. and now you see an excerpt - it's from our episode, which we filmed at the training ground near mariupol, and it was my very, very big desire to film the preparation of borscht with the military, and it was very, very difficult for us to succeed because we there were certain agreements in the ato zone at that time and we arrived near mariupol and the ministry of defense refused us filming. well, you understand. like a documentary for a large format for a cinema and from the very beginning. to be honest, i saw it on netflix at the time of conception, and that's why it's a huge film crew. very, it is a whole minibus of equipment and we are coming there to mariupol, it is terribly expensive , this trip is very expensive, that is, every day the rental of equipment plus or staff is technical staff and we are coming and they tell us no, you know
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, the fighting has intensified there now and that is why it is dangerous to go there go and we sit in mariupol for two days with the hope that we will manage to do it and everyone tells us no, turn around, go , nothing will work. we call his acquaintances, we look for everyone, by some miracle we are directed to training that takes place right there nearby , we get there, it is clear that no one is waiting for us, but it was some kind of arrangement all the time, and in fact , this episode is so, so, so magical he came out because we just filmed people, so we have a hetman, he has a call sign, so he is now cutting lard, he was not supposed to be doing this in general, and he found out that he would be in the movies, so i went among the military, looking
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for the commander. and he says, what are they there? they will create borscht oh, i love borscht with groats, this is the most important thing, yes, in a second, what is your name, let's film you, that's why this is such an unexpected, the most planned and the most unplanned episode we have released , that's why foreigners will see a very different ukraine and very different people, but the main idea of this film, which is terribly important now, is unity, and i think that we managed to show it, and that's why i think it's a very good cultural action, first of all, to show this diversity of ukraine. i think that we managed to do it through borscht show different people there, we have a lot of our heroes , it is not known what these people are now and where they are now , i hope that everyone is alive and well with borscht , such a strange situation once upon a time when yushchenko was just elected president and muscovites decided
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for this, we had to turn off the gas for the first time. i was sent to the tv channel. god, i'm ashamed to say inter. it seems like no k1 or inter, god. less , it was so long ago, no one will believe studying the situation in saratov, because there was something related to the lawn, and i'm in that's why saratov, having already free time on the second day of filming, decided to go to a local restaurant of russian cuisine, there was one, it was called a village or something like a birch village. well , in short, i went there, there, in a civilized way, to go to log cabins and so on and came and said please give me please give me more and i want more and they will eat they say that we have our saratov borscht traditional russian dish well, i had a big fight with them then but this is another story about the cultural struggle with the russian federation , which literally appropriates everything well, they have an accordion, a german balalaika, it also turns out that the germans made them well with penguins, chinese vodka
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, polish vodka , and borscht from the ukrainians, they try to steal it, and it is even stolen. to bring what russian borscht used to be like that recently, but i see that they are already changing everything to ukrainian, and this is also cool, so it somehow works a little . i don't like the promotion of ukrainian culture. that's what the unr was doing and knew that it was terribly important , and we can see these traces. until now, here in berlin, how they tried to promote ukrainian culture and thought that and
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it seems to me that there are a lot of opportunities for such was lost, and the russians, of course, having a lot of money and having huge ambitions, did not waste time and now it is very difficult to resist even when we see these people. here , literally yesterday, there was a run for peace, that is , a run against giving weapons to the ukrainians, and i understand these people, i see what it is the germans are not even russians, maybe some of them are bought, some of them have a headache. it is noticeable , but some of the people are not that poisoned , they are people who grew up in the paradigm of high , high russian culture, we understand that it again, everything was half-stolen, half-staged and inflated. but nevertheless, this is a great russian culture, and in their minds, it is now very important that they taught it. that means they suffered with anna karenina. and now they say something bad about russians, so it is a big task now stands as representatives of ukrainian culture
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, unfortunately, all the same, it is somehow very connected with money, including but in the fact that we should more confidently perform on the world stage and show all our achievements, all our if to return to the project once again, it is very important that there is such a thing that we show. for example, we cooked, i had some ambiguous stories at some point. eyes, and there was a period when i was triggered somewhere by these multinational things that we showed. and now i think how important it is when everywhere they shout that we are some kind of nazis, well , watch this, you won't get anywhere from this. the leader of newspapers of the world often write that's why it's very cool that jews cook borscht here in odesa, it means that a hungarian cooks such borscht in uzhgorod, that is, you can show
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such a multi-national team, and the same in vylkovo, we have two such russian-speaking women there, and it's interesting because they cook borscht on fish. and this is one of shevchenko's favorite recipes. he mentions it all the time, mostly on crucians, and it's all so mixed and mixed, and it seems to me that it 's very important, but we all find a place for everything , and each flavor owes its place to this trans unesco, yes. there is still no single recipe for borscht - this is actually a beautiful metaphor for ukrainians and for ukrainians of our colorful culture. i once read that ukrainians are a country with one of the largest varieties of somatotypes. that is, we have more than 20 different types, that is, let's say
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there well, physiques, face shapes, and so on and so on. this is extremely diverse, which is obviously related to the fact that there have been many ethnic groups here for millennia. this is our strength, really, so thank you very much for the conversation , one more practical thing , how many ukrainian borscht recipes are there in general ? it's beetroot, so it's unifying for everything and in general , how many people are there so many recipes for borscht, mom , there are so many of the most delicious borscht, you know, in the whole history, i only met two people in my opinion
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when i told something about borscht, well it is clear to everyone that the most delicious borscht is man borscht and literally only two people told me listen, my mother is not good, but olena, how many people are there actually so much creativity of ukrainians that you can cook borscht, for me the biggest discovery of the project is they, which turns out to be terrible popular and in the eastern regions, in principle, they always use 50 by 50 white beets, this was the first shooting, they cut such a beet , half white, half beet, and this became a huge surprise for me, and then they say we always put white beetroot in borscht and it was such a huge discovery for me that white beetroot is not even sold anywhere in ukraine in stores in kyiv
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. we can’t find it . white beet and here we get to the carpathians and the hostess says, well, we put 50 for 50 white beet and that means such an ordinary beet and i think so wow, you understand so many different options, even about which i have never heard although i even practiced i discovered some things about this topic just during the filming, as well as zhenya, who is a professional cook. there were many things that surprised us. the secret ingredient on netflix. dear ukrainians who are now scattered around the world, show it to your friends from different countries. let them study ukraine through borscht. let them understand. who are we thank you natalka for the borscht prepared in the form of a documentary film and for the conversation natalka yakymovych producer of the film borscht the secret ingredient that will soon appear on such an international platform as netflix well, here we are briefly about the territory, just that you know how, just like us with borscht and so on, with cultural diplomacy, we open up to the world, the world
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learns more about us, that's how we opened up to the world, we opened up in europe, we remember, we are a part of history, and this is what ivana stradner, who is older , reminded me a research fellow of the foundation for the protection of democracy, it is published everywhere , in particular, and in kyivpost, about the fact that exactly 20 years ago today, the prime minister of serbia , zoron djindjic, was beaten. he was a pro-western politician after milosevic, and she writes very good things she told serbia to kill everyone, she emphasizes about the western leader and zoran was killed simply because he wanted to bring serbia closer to the west and i'm just saying that this is also a part of history that is important for us , just think how many ukrainian politicians died in unknown, incomprehensible circumstances for those 30 years of independence from chornovol and to many others, and now
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, unfortunately, people because of the fact that russia, directly or indirectly, kills us, kills us with mines that it scatters on our land, mining it, but there are brave sappers who demine these territories at the risk of their own lives, they are demining, they are looking for stretch marks under the bed, explosives, children's toys, anti-tank mines on farmland, which are left by the russians, but they clean thousands of hectares of our earth from this russian world, let's look at them and thank you for staying with espresso , the settlement is true, there were battles in this settlement there were occupying troops of the russian federation directly here , even fsb sappers were standing here, because it is visible from the demining, demining is quite difficult , practically 70-80% of the mines are recycled, so they are not it is possible to remove them, they are made alive for us sappers, they have to discount all of them on the spot, retreating from this
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settlement, they mined all power lines , residential buildings and all approaches, because from that side, because from that side, our troops entered, the difficulty is that when accompanied by the electricians' brigades during the restoration of the power transmission line, there is a lot of engineering ammunition, especially anti-personnel ammunition, small, prohibited, prohibited for the entire civilized world to use and , unfortunately, all the fields. and this is almost thousands hectares are mined for such mines that cannot be removed and that must be defused right on the spot. it is quite a difficult job, which is complicated firstly by the large vegetation and secondly by the large presence of mines, because the decontamination of each mine takes a lot of time, and each approach is individually approached because there is potentially something under it, so that they were mined like this to knock out us sappers so that we cannot do our
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work, the village is a year of time without electricity, without gas , without water, accordingly, now we are working primarily to restore the critical infrastructure of the establishment the light together with the electricians' teams here. well, at the moment, we have already brought the rest of the villages to almost half of the village, which are still waiting for us, a very large volume of work, a very large volume of work, and analyzing compared to kyiv oblast, which i also had to visit for demining more than 90 days last year. similarly, with this group with which i am currently working here, if you compare kyiv oblast and kherson oblast, kherson oblast should be at least 20 with such volumes with such a number of prohibited anti-personnel ammunition with such mining, after all, was mined. well, how during hostilities to deter a potential enemy there or
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to secure themselves there so that something would not get in there when leaving here. they mined everything, starting from dog kennels and ending with the detonation of all the lines of power transmission towers and mines were installed on practically the entire infrastructure. deliberately do not place yourself between two pillars at a distance of 50 m . 4 mines of ozm 72, which jump to the level of the stomach , which are 2,400 pieces of debris in a circle of 25 m on each side. the goal is to remind us as much as possible, or is there any practical one? what do you think the goal is, well, my subjective opinion based on the analysis of my experience , their goal is to make sure that no one lives on this territory anymore, well, they do not mine if people want to do something on this territory or restore it here very much
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a large volume, and i can't even say with certainty how long it will take us to at least reach the level that was before the full-scale invasion , a lot of work, an extremely lot of work, in my opinion, this is my subjective opinion, which i can voice from our own experience we are sure that the most mined country in the world on such a scale, on the territory, on the number of mines, let’s say per square meter, on the types of ammunition, the latest ones, many of which we have not even come across, these are their new russian developments, which they test to some extent on us, which we learn from without knowing their specifics, somehow, somehow, working, this is our job , we know how to do it, we work. i understand that it may be too early to talk about it, but your forecasts are how long it will take for the demining of the kherson oblast and ukraine in general to proceed
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at such a pace. in the documents, one day of the introduction of war with the use of various types and types of ammunition there, three dashes, 7-10 days of complete demining, well, as much as possible, we take a year of war, a minimum of 10 demining, a lot, a lot of all that junk. and when they left in our land, it is not even tens of thousands, you can cite a more disgusting example is what you saw in terms of mining, maybe i don’t know there , a children’s nursery in a private house was mined, or something like that, well, in the kyiv region, we saw a children’s cradle mined, a small cradle mined a professional mined enough that when lifting the pillow, the whole cradle of kilograms of plastic dielectric to crono electricity exploded in the pillows, this was mined by this person who
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did not watch the mining system on youtube, how it is installed, was mined by a logic professional, and i don’t see it, and all private houses were also mined here where were they, they changed everything from doghouses to entrances on the territory of private houses to stretch marks , doors, beds, some household items, well, completely everything, yes, well, it does not change, it changes during hostilities in a different way minus the enemy, and here the mine system was 80% on the civilian population with the aim that the people who will return are blown up and killed or injured, the ammunition remains, together with some children's toys , household items, when lifting any household item , a mine surprise will work and the civilian population will die , the sappers of the armed forces of ukraine are working with us, the explosive devices
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of the national police are working with us, we expect that some international organizations that are engaged in certified in ukraine , primarily engaged in the demining complex , our help here will not interfere with such volumes of agricultural land - this is the next stage. on which combat operations were not conducted, they were injured as a result of shelling, this is one demining system, there are agricultural fields on which minefields are installed, both anti-personnel and anti-tank and there are a lot of mixed ones that are demined with the help of remote means of demining with cluster prohibited elements , and then based on this information, each field has its own approach, because when the field was damaged due
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to the arrival of artillery or mlrs, this is one demining system, when there are engineering ammunition on the field, it is a completely different set of regulatory documents on which we work, we must first of all ensure the safety of our personnel and work according to regulatory documents , although unfortunately most of them are now written by our own blood. i have not met even in some international norms, demining rules, what to do with such a scale and with a certain degree of such pollution. now we are writing some new regulatory documents that will be used by the whole world . we will not go further because i will take a searcher there. i still see it, here is the eighth. and this is all coming from me and beyond the horizon, this is the whole field, you can
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imagine the scale, almost every third of them has been reworked so that it cannot be taken from its place. unfortunately, there are already cases of guys who died from them, you can’t even twist the explosive according to all the regulatory documents that were for the unions, how are these mines demined, they are modified so that during the twisting of the explosive , it explodes in you 7.5 kg of tortilla is enough for your head, not one chance in a million, not one, there will be only two left such a piece as a fist in order to bury it in the best case , you have to learn in practice, as unfortunately yes unfortunately yes well, now these mines are neutralized, how is the specific neutralization done, a charge is placed on each mine of individual explosives is taken to the detonator, it is verified that
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there is no one around, the environment reports that there is no one nearby, the explosion takes place after the explosion, we wait for the time, we come to control whether the detonation after the explosion takes at least 20-30 minutes, because the detonation can knock one down when approaching, less when you have less time when approaching, it may already be erected there, unfortunately , those who know how to do it, and knowing our specifics, how we do it, stood here, unfortunately, standing here they will find us to catch and we know where they
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