[000:00:00;00] constantly in the american information space, let's say a lot on such news channels as cnn and massnbc, leading newspapers, it is present every day and people who are generally interested in news . to stop russia from going to war in ukraine however, are our partners and the usa and the european union focusing on working on circumventing sanctions because the russian federation has adapted enough already in this year of a full-scale war, especially having secured the support of iran and china, and they may have different options

in order to achieve their goal , are our partners working on this? the list of those against whom sanctions were imposed by the united states just before the anniversary of the full-scale invasion this this list was published by the treasury department well on february 24 of this year plus or minus there one or two days there seven pages and there are more than half of this list are precisely companies that either help russia circumvent sanctions or that were created specifically to help russia enter sanctions, and this is a company from different countries. this company is registered , including in the european union, say cyprus in bulgaria austria is a company from switzerland

, there is a company from the united arab emirates , if you read it, you can see that mostly these companies belong to some people against whom sanctions have also been introduced, who usually have dual citizenship of russia and some other countries, and they register such pseudo-businesses, whose purpose is to help russia enter sanctions, this is really being paid attention to even three weeks ago, i read the transcript of the briefing of the deputy secretary of the treasury of the united states on the fight against terrorism. well, who is actually responsible for this area, which is the introduction of sanctions against those who violate american sanctions, and he just said that they are very carefully engaged in this and

will continue to engage even more a for in order to make it impossible for russia to circumvent, especially the export control process, i.e. the ban on the export of certain products to russia that can be used for the manufacture of weapons . now this photo of the representatives of iran and saudi arabia in the office of the head of the foreign policy sector of the central committee of the communist party of china, a member of the politburo of the central committee of the communist party of china in the front pages of all publications, including american ones, many say that this is a serious foreign policy defeat for the united states when saudi arabia and iran are reconciled by china, which shows that it is playing some new special role in the middle east , which it has never played in its life. how is this even possible ? as a sign of the further

development of events not only in the middle eastern region but also in the world, i agree with you that this is actually a defeat for the united states and the people of the western world in the sense that china strengthens significantly strengthens its influence. well, we don't know how much this agreement will be implemented. well, but the fact is that china is strengthening its influence. well , the united states has no influence on iran , since it has no relations with iran , and because of that, i think that china took advantage of them, that it he has relations with iran quite close has relations with saudi arabia that is yes i agree it is a defeat for the united states and for the western world a diplomatic defeat and a political defeat because the influence of china is increasing as it is growing why is the united states trying

prevent last week well this week is still ending the us intelligence report on traditions was just released the annual report on security threats to the united states allies of the united states there china is in first place china russia iran and north korea well china there is very much attention is paid to russia almost as much in iran and north korea, it is smaller , but it is four countries, modern, modern, all evil , so to speak, and i agree with you that the united states should still think about how they can to change this trajectory, because if china moves further in terms of strengthening its influence, this is what china is doing right, it will simply be difficult for the civilized world to avoid this chinese influence, which would be very unfortunate, because the increase in chinese influence is the

decrease in the influence of the civilized world. the influence of democratic countries , i'll just say it again, i've always thought that where the western world once made concessions to the soviet union, where there was more of the soviet union, there was always less of the western world the same is happening with china now about these data that intelligence has made public about the threat from china , will the american initiative to, say, attract the help of the european union to confront china, work then because on the one hand the european union does not want it because it is beneficial for them in the commercial sense in the economic sense it makes sense to cooperate with china, but on the other hand , now we see that even the netherlands has already given up advanced chinese printers , this is one of the precedents. perhaps, after all

, this american initiative will work very well i would like it to work, because you see china , china does very similar things to those that russia did, only russia did these things with energy carriers, with oil and gas, it used them as a political weapon, and china uses them, in principle, too, it is the exporter of a very large number of various goods and not only goods that , say, we buy in stores, he is an exporter of components that are used to produce other products, let's say in this report of american intelligence, i am shocked by this 40% of the ingredients used in the world for the production of drugs of various medical preparations, they are exported from china, that is, the entire pharmaceutical industry of the whole world is 40% completely dependent on china

, including the ingredients that are produced only in china , you know this even this is even worse than, say, naftogaz because oil and gas can be bought in other places, and if there are ingredients that are produced only in china, they are needed in order to make medicine, it means that the world becomes completely dependent on china right there here and i warn that it is very dangerous . that's right. by the way, with microcircuits, because china is trying to produce 18% of almost a fifth of the world's production of microcircuits by the 25th year. china china already produces almost half of the world's production of lithium batteries, which are used everywhere, and china is doing the same. what is it doing that makes whole countries, whole countries, these regions dependent on its exports, that is, it sets political conditions that what if you do something there or not

like so we will not export this product to you is very dangerous, that is why i would really like the leaders of western europe to have exactly the same common opinion with the united states about this in order to counteract this and so that china cannot, because of its economic influence, political influence such and such that you see he he he he he develops this political influence today mr. igor i wonder what you think about this low investigation regarding the northern streams and streams and explosions on them and this will continue today spiegel the investigation was a new york times investigation. ukrainian politicians and experts say in one voice that ukraine simply would not have the resources for such an explosion, and that it is impossible to blow up these gas tanks on a yacht, as it is told in most of the investigations . spiegel even publishes this route of this as

how it from one island to another swam from rügen to draw christianso and all this looks like a spy action movie, but for me there is a question that it is really possible to blow up strategic objects, some boats in essence like these with tourists yes without a small one with not so serious equipment i still have a big question about this i think that it is of course impossible from a tourist yacht or with some big yacht that belongs to someone to blow up strategic objects located at the bottom of the sea before that you have to have to have very expensive equipment, and i think that for this it can do such things only at the state level when there are suitable ones , i don’t know the special forces of the sea who can do it, of course not, i have no proof there is no evidence. i think that

this is a leak. this is the kind of disinformation leak that, unfortunately, was made by russia. it was completely successful because you know. well, of course there are leaks of various information to newspapers, to television , including to american newspapers. leaks happen when the government hides something and journalists who have the relevant connections, let's say the less , they can get information through other departments, but when at the same time the new york times and several german newspapers literally on the same day, with reference to some named sources , publish the same thing, that is, it is not i have the impression that this is a throw-in, and it's not a very neatly made throw-in . if one newspaper printed it, well , one would think that the journalists of this newspaper have some kind of connection with someone who provided them with such information, when it's many newspapers at once

, and regardless allegedly from each other, this is a suspicion that this is a throw-in. and by the way, the spokesman of the state department is categorical about the price . well, i am not saying that he denied it, but he categorically refused to confirm what happened, let's wait for the investigation. thank you, mr. igor ihor eisenberg, a professor at the university of nyurer, was in direct contact with us. and we are moving on to georgia, well, maloshvili , the opposition politician, the founder of the political platform , hamziri, we are in touch . we are, of course, vita. what happened in tbyla can now be summed up. well , let's just give the main current. why are there laws on agents at all? now, your government needed them, and how do you assess this situation with its

liquidation after two days of protests? the process was actually very interesting, because if you look at what is happening on russian propaganda channels and what kind of hysteria there is and the reviews that came from the ministry of foreign affairs from high-ranking officials and officials here, i think it is very easy to understand where this idea came from to adopt this law, but i think that this is a very big role , and why did they need it now, well, there were two options that we thought would have an impact, the first is that 2024 there will be elections this year, and by this time the government, which has already taken an authoritarian course, should have done everything so that

the so-called alternative sector of the ngo position channel should be silenced, and for this reason, the best example for the georgian government was the same what did putin do in 2012, that's why they needed them. this will happen again, and i think that they didn't count on the fact that there would be such a reaction, and the reaction here went just right . it's the youth, because the youth is actually in all of us. she should have participated in all the previous actions because there was no hilism, there was mistrust of the political class, and young people did not go out on the streets. well, it was periodic, but very little, and what happened in these 3 days was actually the youth who went out on the streets . she simply changed the course of history. and here there was no longer a large participation of opposition parties, there was no participation of politicians at all

, that is, simply the youth took to the streets and said that there will be no law, that there is no pro-russian course , the georgian government will not take it because these guys, the future of georgia does not want and will not allow russian influence in georgia, and in fact, the georgian government, which thought that it had captured everything, was in fact another, or had compromising material, and so on and so on. did not have genera jan z as we call them. they did not participate in political processes, but how did she become the moment in the history of georgia when it was necessary to make a choice of jeans, she went

to the street, made an election and came back, and i think that we were all very surprised because what was actually happening on the streets well, here comes another question and well, because on the one hand yes, of course, the youth went out on the streets and showed their preferences, and on the other hand, it is simply on whom will these young people rely, you yourself actually, they left us the movement. this is not a secret for you. yes, it is true that what is happening with the position . unfortunately, the opposition has suffered a lot over the past 10 years. i think that we have not been able to show the youth that we can that we are stronger than we are actually what we are we could be much stronger but unfortunately there were different factors why was there such nihilism why is this attitude towards politics and i think that the guys just decided

to take matters into their own hands and return everything to where it should be the least of all participated in this politics and therefore for the propaganda of georgian power it was very difficult to blame it again on any political party or any interests and simply the population of georgia came out in the soul of georgia and said its that's it, that's it. as for the political spectrum, i think it's not easy when you're dealing with an oligarchy that's controlled from the kremlin. it's not the easiest thing, but we 're continuing the fight. i think it was very important. it was very important. it is very important in 3 days for history and i think that very much is changing at the same time, we also have to expect provocations from russia , as far as we can see, they are very angry with the georgian government and the population of georgia

, how they will affect it, how they will react to everything i think it remains to be seen, but one should not expect anything good from these people. the president of georgia, salamazer bishvili, still supported the protesters and the initiative to repeal these bills, but that was not enough. this process would probably be resubmitted and would it be so easy to vote once again according to your legislation yes , the main thing here was the main symbolism because even she knows that if the law passed and she put it on him in this parliament, the georgian dream would be able to overcome it and pass this law. here was a more symbolic step and the fact that she made

the right statements. i think it was also a very very important very very important sign that in georgia they are beginning to understand even that political figures who were closely connected with the ruling party that so sharply change the vector to go against the choice of the population against what is written in our constitution , this can turn out to be quite serious, and in fact she made the right statement a tell me, how does it turn out that mr. ivanishvili for the second time is betting on people whom he supports in the presidential elections , who then oppose him ? he has both a vision and

a character, and after that, most likely, he was required to make decisions that he simply had to subscribe to, but that were against the interests of the country. took a rather tough position, the same thing happened with the straw of zurabishvili. but you remember. she herself even wrote a book in her time, where she said that it was georgia that started the war against russia and bombed its peaceful population. made the right statements, but then she didn't do anything after that, but now, when she remained a historical choice, i think she just understood that she needed to be on the right

side of history, and she also showed her character and principledness, which probably was also very surprising for ivanishula, because he needs complete submission , and this is what is happening now for him, in fact , he is losing, he is losing, and he is losing power, and for him it was a very serious blow, what happened the day before yesterday, and here i am i would like to ask you again, this is the fate of all of us, of course, the fate of those of your compatriots who fight in the ukrainian armed forces and fight for ukraine. yes, mako malashvili, this is your brother. yes, that’s why you are a person directly involved in this, that’s when they say now that it is necessary to judge people for the fact that they fight on the side of ukraine, that they come to georgia with not the same sentiments that the authorities like, what do you generally feel

then the moment when it continues when the georgian authorities have already specifically started to act against these guys, she said that she would cancel marking the nationality of these guys and take away their passports, but it turned out that according to international law, this it's simply impossible to do. i think that they had intentions . but somehow it didn't work out. again, the families of these guys are here, and the government is doing everything so that they are under control, so that there is very serious pressure on them. for me , this is not a novelty since 2014. this has been going on . in relation to our family, therefore, for the georgian government, the guys who are actually doing what georgia should do, what georgia should do, and stand on the side where

the whole civilized, civilized world should stand today for them this is unacceptable because, unfortunately, before the start of the war in ukraine, they still maintained a western facade or pretended to lead the country into the euro-atlantic structures. could not continue the game they were playing until february 2022, and of course the guys who are now in ukraine, they interfere with them very much, and even during the rallies there were arrests , there were arrests specifically of those people who

fought in ukraine, arrested three three guys, one by one, still arrested two, let them go, came to their house , looked at what was there and said that they were looking for weapons that the guys brought from ukraine, now they need to find the enemy of the people, you know, to explain what is behind these rallies and so on далее well, since they could not blame the opposition party, now it is necessary to find an alternative alternative, an alternative enemy, and for them, the guys who are now fighting in ukraine, for them it is very big, i am the main one they will definitely try to involve them in some kind of intrigue and say that this was all controlled either from ukraine or by forces that want to destabilize and start and wanted to start the second maidan in georgia, the people perceive it because, well, when it was not sewn up and the ruling party is talking about it that they are the party of peace, but the opposition is the party of war and is trying to drag

georgia into the russian-ukrainian war in this way, but they told medvedchuk that way, yes absolutely, but georgians know that russia came from weapons on your territory, it's not just you observers from the sidelines, of course. and that's why all this propaganda that the georgian dream has been leading for the last 10 years and continued especially in the last year, it evaporated in a day, in 2-3 days, and that's what they tried to criticize the guys who are fighting in ukraine as mercenaries, that's what they wanted to show that if it's not the georgian dream, then we'll start a war, i think that's it, that's all propaganda has failed and it's even

harder for them to get out of this situation because they are especially after this bill, which had to be brought back because they were going to carry out propaganda that was based on the fact that we are supporters of peace, that's why we decided not to disperse the demonstrators anymore, and we wanted to end everything peacefully, but again, it was american law about no russian law, but unfortunately in russia now, russian tv channels and propagandists are so hysterical and watering down the georgian government that i thought they had no more of this propaganda and no more of these arguments to how can i get out of this situation? i saved my face. so the population of georgia perfectly understands and understands where the country should be, and the guys who are fighting in ukraine are actually the real representative of georgia, not the georgian government that just wanted to hand over the country to the russian empire. at the same time, can the georgian government retain power in

the next parliamentary elections, the most important question is because the protests will pass and the political situation may not change, the society simply may not see alternatives. the situation now is quite the situation now has changed very much in fact because if until now everyone thought that the georgian government was invincible and it would never give in to anything and no one was able to take away any initiative, they were all pushing it, it turned out that the georgian government now very weak and this showed the population that did not actually participate in the political processes of the johns, they were indifferent to politics, but they changed history very much georgia in 3 days, and i think that

during the elections, this will also have a very strong impact on the results of the georgian government and the results of the opposition parties, so we now have to try very hard to please the youth and show and find and show that there is an alternative, that there is, that there is politicians who will continue on the western path and will not blackmail the population with the interests of the country in order to stay in power at any cost. it is a very big task to show that there is an alternative to pro-russian power in georgia

, and the opposition must simply understand that we must unite and fight against pro-russian power . mr. vitaliy and i will continue the georgian topic because i have many questions about your position on how this georgian crisis will develop. we will also talk about the brutal and such shooting that our society was shaken by the shooting of a ukrainian prisoner by the russian occupiers, let's also talk about what is happening in transnistria, because russia is always inventing new provocations there. well , lukashenko is flying to tehran, what will he talk about with the president there , stay and we will continue the topic in a few

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