[000:00:00;00] well, the constitutionalists have questions about this norm. do you think it contradicts the constitution or not, but we have already spoken with lawyers who understand what awaits us next, the practice of the european court of human rights more or less agrees on the fact that we can apply the category of restrictions with a clear, clear definition positions and determining the term, as far as we do it, and in this way , the probability that these people will win the case at the european court is much lower. thank you very much, mrs. vito, we wish you a good day. we can already add to the conversation gellava sadze, a political scientist, let's talk about the situation in georgia, about the statement of the last prime minister of georgia regarding zelensky, ukrainian politicians and about

the health and prospects of miho saakashvili , we congratulate you good morning good afternoon glory to ukraine glory to the heroes gela please tell us your we have already quoted prime minister irakli garibashvili's reaction to yesterday's statement , where he gave an interview to the media of the tv channel and media and said that he called on ukrainian politicians and zelensky personally not to interfere in the internal affairs of georgia and called ukrainian politicians losers. well, the quote is that a difficult situation in ukraine is expected to escalate, said the prime minister of georgia, according to our information , ukraine is preparing counterattacks, there will probably be very heavy fighting in the donetsk region in general, and after the fall of bakhmut, the situation is likely to become even more difficult, and he said when a person who is fighting comes out and responds to the destructive action carried out by several thousand people here in georgia

. this is direct evidence that this person is involved and motivated to make something happen here, it is him commented on zelensky, klitschko came out, feygin came out, some unknown people came out ukrainian politicians, damn it, some dirty losers who say that changes are needed, a coup, which is a direct interference in the politics of the country, stated the georgian prime minister, your assessment , comment on this statement, please, well, what is being evaluated here, well, we expect it in principle there is nothing new from what our prime minister would have said before that, he did not say he is now nervous, it is understandable because it is understandable that this is the case, or otherwise, who is the practical owner of the country, will need a report for that what happened, and what happened, of course, is that a new political factor appeared in georgia that will interfere with the monopoly

of georgia's dream of politics . this is the political factor. this is the youth of europe. это будет он и сегодня well, this is a demand that will definitely justify its own helplessness and its own illogical wrong actions . this so-called law on innuagents is as it is in russia, so now it could be in georgia, but it did not happen, was it withdrawn by the ruling party , or now new demands have appeared, the resignation of the government and the announcement of early parliamentary elections, to what extent can this perspective and this goal be achieved. please, let's go

let's let's be realistic, first of all, this is not a protest action, it was the georgian opposition , it was an action that the georgian position only joined, it was an action of motivated young people who understood that their dream was being taken away from them, their dream to see georgia in europe is selected by parties that are called the dream, starting with the fact that these people are mostly the average age of the participants of the action is 25 years old, these people who were born after the collapse of the soviet union and these people who revolutionized that's why they always saw the georgian flag next to the european one, they don't experience it no sentiments towards russia, but at the same time, for them, the very phrase i am georgian means i am european, which was then associated with the speaker of the parliament and one of the fathers of georgian civil society.

not much more than that word zurabom living in 1999 , when georgia was admitted to the council of europe, he said i am a georgian, it means that i am a european , it is absolutely natural and they will not allow anyone to take away our country's social choice, namely in this law they saw a threat of such and such even even a turn it is not an external political one because in georgia power is not about politics in georgia power is about money and a turn from europe to some kind of oligarchic structure oligarchic photography now the demands of the opposition resignation governments, they sound, but they are unlikely to be supported by this youth, and in principle, our western partners say the following: what you guys need now is not the resignation of the government, our opposition parties, you need to

somehow structure and attract this very youth that came out to and, of course, fight for the fulfillment of those 12 points that will allow georgia to obtain the status of a candidate for the european union and hold normal democratic elections. at that stage, when it is possible and necessary to change the government through elections, if the government and georgia do not demonstrate readiness , respectively, it means that the implementation of the reforms specified in 12 points, but the system that loses aesthetics is breaking down, by the way, i wrote about this a couple of days before the beginning of the protests , and here in principle, the same illustration can be much more sad for you, so i think that the role of our international partners is very important here. i think that with

their support, georgia still has a chance вырулит на let's say yes on the main road of european civilization and tell me, please, how protest actions affect these processes and how they can affect similar processes in georgia in the future . these are the hundreds of thousands of russian troops who fled the mobilization and moved to the border on the territory of georgia because you know, russians in any country can be different and can hit you in the back at a very unexpected moment. ukrainians have already learned this well and know well how critical the number of russians is today in georgia, to what extent can they be? well, a certain force, which, by the way, russia can also influence in one way or another, and is it true that now there are queues in the opposite direction, the russians do not want to enter georgia , but on the contrary, leave georgia after these protest actions that traffic jams have formed on the borders with russia, the second is that it is not true, this is russian

propaganda , and it is clear that propaganda works and it is important to say something about that. as for the video, the place of russians and threats to russia. practically did not participate, with the exception of a few dozen people. as for anti-protests, it is practically impossible here. a much more funny situation was when a georgian journalist announced that it turned out that there were no georgians on the exhibition avenue. all ukrainians were refugees from ukraine. what about the refugees? they asked, he said about the refugees from ukraine, i don't know how many from ukraine, i don't know how many there were, and were they there at all, but as for the ukrainians, yes, undoubtedly they were there. they were there. all ukrainians, because after february 24, 22nd, all decent people in the world are ukrainians. yes, there were ukrainians there, but with georgian passports, surnames, and first names

. and what is the position? well, mr. vasyl and i love football, what is the position of kahamer karlovych kaladze, he is already the mayor of tbilisi how many six years has he been elected from the georgian dream, what is his political position regarding these protest actions among the georgian youth that you mentioned, let me remind you that this person is the only georgian who has won the uefa champions league twice, it was kaladze who spoke to you who made a player in general and put in the mail nobody like valery vasilievich lobanovsky and all this is what he got thanks to kiev and ukraine, the position is absolutely the same as they all have, the second thing is that he probably has some of his fortune left and he tries not to talk about ukraine, although he has already said: why do we need such a europe that wants us

to free saakashvili? it is much more interesting for me to tell you about the opposition of vychi quartzvel, who is now the star of napoli, as well as the position of almost all leading georgians sportsmen who are idols and young people, they all wrote unequivocally that georgia is europe and it cannot be any other way, that is , they all practically supported the actions. i want you to have more culture , too . everyone had an unequivocal reaction here: i forgot the name of the georgian director who made the film 13. we also later made a sickle part based on it, it is called in hollywood with so and i am interesting, by the way, its middle is quite influential the movie world and the movie is very cool and then there was this movie with david jameson statham, but the first movie was only georgian, i just wonder if there is any information about this no, but in fact, all the figures are so

worthy let’s say yes, the figures of georgian culture and sports are stars, but there are practically stars all of georgia , all of georgia's national football team . already about saakashvili, saakashvili handed over a letter actually from prison. he said that now he weighs 64 kg, while before prison he weighed 120, that is, twice less, and added that he feels unbearable pain and that he is close to death, he constantly feels this unbearable pain about everything, he handed over this written letter written to our colleagues from the edition of the sky news tv channel. what do you know about the fate of saakashvili, can he be extradited for treatment to europe, ukraine or another country

in the world, please? well, look at the real thing the following situation, of course, in the domestic political context, responsibility for the fate of saakashvila must be taken by the party that, thanks to saakashvila , constantly enters the parliament and is the main opposition force. in this regard , of course yes , before me there were claims that there were no protest actions, etc. but i believe that they should be less massive and where

they were, let’s say, tactrated , but the reactions are only understood as a background for today, a couple of months ago. at least one permanent handshake separates from the president in order to help in some way because president zelensky drew attention to it president zelensky drew attention to it i am not saying that this is likely many presidents, and president zelensky drew attention to this, and yes, president zelensky is now very actively involved, moreover, many european leaders recently noted that macron was called for, but i think that already after zelensky's phrase was first heard, i immediately said that the only person who can now to save saakashvili, two people who called him his friend, i mean the president of the united states, joe biden, and the united states, if, except for the united states, our authorities do not

listen to anyone, but at the same time, of course it is necessary for the university to have a growing internal protest and to give power so that the saakashvilas stop simply demanding that this is called torture, mockery, and the question sounds especially cynical, and i will die, i will not die, but god , what if i turn into a disabled person? что здоровье человека причём человека, who played a key role in the recent history of georgia, the damage was inflicted. the opposition of young people who came out on the maidan and on the georgian front to resolve the issue of the territorial integrity of georgia. now how much is it changing in georgia? well, we here in ukraine feel that a window of opportunity is opening in georgia regarding the return of the territories of south ossetia and

abkhazia. do they feel this window in georgia? do they think that let ukraine defeat russia and then we will solve this important issue for georgia? well, first of all, the window of opportunity in georgia will open only after ukraine returns crimea is a reality, we will not say so, it is not some kind of construction, and secondly , our western partners are clearly talking about it, and they demand from us a peaceful resolution of the conflict or the integration of the territory . the third one will be peaceful or it will be military, this is a decision that clearly will not come to the authorities, well, actually, i can have one more short question, i will ask it, i can ask our director’s team, but i will be very

brief. please tell me, and that’s it. to the illegal supply of goods, maybe even services through the territory of georgia to russia in georgia, who has a monetary gain from this? is this only a political obligation to certain people, well, russian oligarchs. in georgia itself, the russian government, please , scheme of import and export to russia, gray scheme , speech in in this case, not sanctioned goods , we are talking about those goods that are not exported to russia directly , bought in this way, as it were, by georgian companies and then resold not to russia , again. and in one of the countries of eurasia, already that's where this scheme comes from, and he's already made money on this scheme, from there they go to russia, they need to make money in georgia, people who are close to the authorities make money on their own

. as for the countries of europe, it's clear that these are the laying of companies and the latter, well , that's how it is, in principle, if we speak about the motivation of the georgian authorities, the motivation to make money on the russians is the main motivating factor, which in general is the power, i am talking about it once again, it is not about politics, it is not about national interests, it is interesting about gela's money well, tell me then you said that early elections to the parliament are unlikely. and when scheduled elections are planned . sorry for the tautology to the parliament and the presidential elections in georgia in the fall of 24th year . i said that there is no such thing for this. even a couple of stupid things that were done before this, everything can be done, nobody knows, but the artists are doing stupid things, but so far the protest actions have been finalized correctly, i understand. you understand what

it is. at any moment , apart from everything else, the erosion has now passed, at least there are conversations within the georgian government itself . it is possible that if these deputies are very poor people , they will get the prospect of receiving sanctions, and now, with such scraps, they are trying to consolidate the power of the deputy corps. разовы о том что пошла розия это факт thank you very much for the political scientist who was in touch with us. well, here we are in georgia. and now we will talk about iran and ukraine. also muhammed and fara jala, the chief editor

of the ukraine portal in arabic, mr. mahmed. congratulations we will contact you now and ask about the russian su-35 for iran and about lukashenka in tehran. and, by the way, iran is today the largest supplier of weapons to russia, bypassing various sanctions, of course, which helps russia fight against ukraine in its aggressive wars mohamat farajilah congratulations good day radio see and hear well, first of all let's ask what is closer to us, so to speak, about this agreement between iran and russia on the purchase of the fastest su-35, the most interesting thing here is not that the su-35 will be in iran a what will russia get from iran in return and for how long, i conclude with an assessment, iran will be able to, despite any pressure from the west, continue to give russia what it wants from it in exchange

for what iran itself wants. and mine is observed unfortunately, that is very good a big and strong challenge for the institution, we observe that the west has not yet said that this war has shown that all sanctions against iran were meaty , if speaking mildly, and when they found 136 steps in the components of drones, 40 components of production companies, then just like once мог быть от сансы 30 лет далее сейчас instead of strengthening and solving the problem and taking more decisive measures, iran is going to strengthen relations with iran. a window of opportunity to get what he wants, that is, if

before, what was at all unreal , now it is very possible, and in return, russia gets much less. for the reason for putin , he wanted to capture ukraine and putin wanted to create the so-called multipolar world and when all the countries have already become allies of the civilized world, he had no possible allies except belarusians. this is understandable, something funny and these are no allies. and this is just the execution of putin's team. putin would give anything as long as something was formed with him, so he gave up a lot for iran. i have already transferred my

military bases in syria to iran , the nuclear fuel that is necessary for the nuclear program . says that until now, from my point of view, the united states is conducting the wrong policy in the middle east . instead of allies, the united states is developing western relations with the arab world, which are really our potential allies , because they suffer from iran. unfortunately , this does not happen, though there were concrete signals for washington now this is exactly now

the challenge sky, this means that the special operations, which have been talked about for a long time, are precisely the joint american vision or the american allies against iran, it will be very, very difficult, because it will not be the case that simply inflicting painful blows on the nuclear program or its projects now will be a serious challenge to the west did the west further look for ways to negotiate

? will he approve in some way ? i still wanted you. for themselves, they answered perhaps about the supply of weapons from iran to moscow, bypassing the white, is this option possible, and i ask the directors to turn up the sound for us in the monitor, because it is very difficult to hear the guest, and we have one and a half minutes , mr. roman, one and a half minutes , look well, it is impossible to perceive lukashenko as a figure of the northern state, lukashenko is precisely in the service of putin, and lukashenko's visit is just to show europe that he is not isolated, that he is supposedly a visitor

, and the same thing happened recently in africa now in iran what can be the main thing what can be real in this dangerous format according to the format, there can be iranian instructors who can be transferred to the territory of belarus, but lukashenko would have the opportunity. the question is absolute or not, we know very well if russia wants it, and lukashenko will not be asked the main purpose of lukashenko's visit is simply to send a message to the west that he doesn't cry, that he can visit some countries that can accept him, mr. muhammed. thank you, mohamad farajola, editor-in-chief of the ukraine portal porabske ihor chuchrenda you resume were with you thank you for being with us we will meet now teleshop and then news time to update your bed linen hurry up

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