[000:00:00;00] about the meeting of the g20 in new delhi, where lavrov was laughed at after he said that russia is defending itself and trying to stop the war in ukraine, there was laughter when you say that someone is trying to blur or discuss the issue of blurring russia's responsibility for war crimes that they committed in ukraine, who is it about now? at what level it can be discussed and whose votes can be decisive in order to blur this responsibility well, we know clearly that

a lot depends on the results of the war and if we talk about the forum in deli and there sounded not only well, this is a lavrov lie, but also really different voices about interests, it is necessary to understand that there are two approaches , well, if it is so simplified, it is the balance of forces in the world and this approach about the democratic nature of foreign policy, where the world should be built on values ​​and interdependence between countries, so well, the idea of ​​the concept of the balance of power is now gaining momentum and every country is really thinking about what will happen after the war, we still do not know what the result will be not only at the front, but at the front. i hope now everything depends on specific

factors and weapons supply and our capabilities, which are also unlimited, but now we are waiting for the success of the armed forces of ukraine , but what will happen next, how will the issue of non-proliferation of nuclear weapons be resolved , the tools for deterring the aggressor are absolutely unknown, absolutely unknown. who is not decisive does not act today and it could be our partners i am sure that well i have such confidence again it is based on its analysis of events that we should not lose and they should not lose now the moment is now the key moment and all efforts must be concentrated on

it , i don't understand why this story is being dragged on because if there is still some way to explain the weapons, well, how to explain the lack of sanctions and tough actions against nuclear terrorism. the zaporizhzhia station, which could simply lead to an explosion, just to an explosion, the world begins, well , the magate is already raising the magate there, where the russian representative is responsible for security , the russian deputy, even the magate can't close his eyes, it's just possible explode why because look at the french channels, only the zaporizhzhia station is being discussed there, and this is an explosion that will really concern europeans, everything that europeans do not concern americans, everything that is far away will be of less and less interest to them, that is why the indecisiveness of actions today , the postponement of some important important decisions, is what helps putin the most the first well, of course, these countries are blamed. we can't, they help a lot, and more so, china's position, which is declared

neutral, although it is actually in favor russia, that is, countries such as china, give hope to the aggressor that in the world it is possible to act in violation of the un charter, therefore the situation is very dangerous , in fact we are entering the second phase, a serious phase where i emphasize once again that the issues will be combined and military power, resources , diplomatic abilities, opportunities and unity in the country itself, a unified position that is, there are many other factors about which no one will cover or analyze all this now, but it is felt that we are moving to a new stage , the good news is that after all, i believe that this is a stage which will already go gradually when we reach the climax in the reduction of military operations directly at the front, but this is most likely. for now, everything is going to some kind of pause, while i do not see any real possibilities, i do not see

it today, so to solve the issue this year . and i am very afraid that the next the year of elections in the united states, in taiwan, that is, in other countries , that it will be very difficult from a political point of view to keep the coordination of support for ukraine at the same level as it was. of the total volume. and if these 40% had come earlier, by december , we would definitely have a different situation, so i would very much like that there are people who can look at the situation without emotion, so that they analyze and deeply our partners and do not make mistakes, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks on facebook and on the youtube platform, for those who are currently watching us live on social networks, please like this video so that it

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oleksandr lukashenko and the leader of iran brahim reisi signed a road map on cooperation between the countries, we know that lukashenko flew to china before that, he met with the leaders of china today lukashenko said that he is in iran for the third time and always watches how they suppress iran with sanctions, let's see lukashenka is my third every time i observe with great respect how your people resist external pressure , imposed someone else's demands, do i understand mr. valery correctly that the self-proclaimed leader of belarus is now trying to find another partners in the world apart from russia because he understands that

china, after all, the center of influence is moving to beijing, iran, syria, belarus , russia is turning into this block, one of the poles of the bipolar world you talked about. well, this is a well-known scheme, that is, there are authoritarian regimes they want to live in a different way, approximately so that we do what we want in our country, we violate human rights , we quit playing, we kill the helpless and you just don't come to us and you do what you want in your house, well, that is, we lived in such and such the world did not get anything good from him, because it is clear that

this is not lukashenka's decision , it is iran's decision, and in principle, several such agreements in recent times indicate that such a policy is being formed. in such a way well, yes, in quotes, it is absolutely not surprising that authoritarian regimes are included there, that is, in essence, it is possible that the us position is that the world will now be divided into autocracies or there are more inclined to totalitarianism and democracy, that is, it will be like this a new stage of confrontation, it has the right to exist, because it really looks like that, countries are attracted not for their own interests, but frankly, for the interests of belarus, there are those of iran, well, they didn't see something, they didn't see it, and here they suddenly saw it, in fact , objectively, lukashenko is simply not with anyone, that's why just such

an authoritarian regime will converge, and this does not bring anything good . the vision of people's lives here is very strict, the position of the police states against the people. that is, it will not end well if this all spreads to a large part of the world , taking into account this pole that is now being formed , can this pole make it impossible to prosecute what we talked about a little earlier lukashenka and putin for the war in ukraine because lukashenko is a co-aggressor and is jointly responsible for this war, and lukashenko is simply forced now, relatively speaking , to look for a roof in the world in order to avoid

an international tribunal. and i think that if to look at it realistically, it is precisely the presence of promises of countries where you can hide from those structures that, by the way, in these countries , international courts and others are not tolerated, even a tribunal that will be specially created , yes, they will hide exactly where the closed regimes are isolated, and it seems to me that what is so new lukashenka has a new feeling, which he shows optimism after his trip to china, he has to demonstrate to everyone that he has found a loophole for his family to hide , where can they hide, it could be the same iran, it could be china and so yes

it will be very difficult to get them by those institutions that will be created under the auspices of western countries, but this does not mean that in the end they will not be handed over, that is, all this will simply be an asset in the trade of the same countries with the americans. that is, it is a matter of time, but at the first stage, yes, they can to hide like this happened very often in history. by the way, for the sake of justice, i will say that the usa also sinned in this way, they also kept on their territory , well, absolutely, in my opinion, such undemocratic leaders of countries, to put it mildly, who then hid with them, so this practice is worldwide and i i think, let's be honest, they can hide for a while, because you can't hide from the judgment of heaven or from the judgment of people, we already mentioned lukashenka, about his diplomatic trips that he has been making since the beginning of the year

to china and iran, but last week he was just so demonstrative an incident towards ukraine and the leader of the ukrainian state by lukashenko and regarding the damage to the a50 aircraft at the airfield, we are hearing it for the first time. apparently, in recent years, lukashenko has spoken quite rudely about zelenskyi, and what's more, this there are no rudeness. it seems to me that there are no limits or any limits at all to talk about in your way in this situation when lukashenko , well, frankly just lies and openly rude to the leader

of ukraine. should we have official diplomatic relations with belarus? give an answer to it and divide where the self-proclaimed leader of belarus is acting and what concerns the belarusian people and the future of our relations between ukrainians and belarusians, do you think it is time to just put an end to this discussion considering the position, well, the frank position of lukashenka, who makes statements exclusively in the context of russia 's aggressive policy, well, you know, it's easier to say when you observe the situation from the sidelines, everything is very, very simple. belarus

had to, it had to be even earlier and they have already worked on it for a long time , unequivocally, since, by the way, the same is the case with iran , that is, for me, there are absolutely no different readings or double readings if a military attack from belarus is being carried out from the territory of the country, so what kind of diplomatic relations can there be? and then, if they have not already done it, those who are currently responsible for our foreign policy should probably look at how this or that action in the war helps or not . that is, it must be analyzed i emphasize the situation once again. i believe that this should have been done a long time ago. now regarding him, what he said. well, it was fear . it was fear because he saw that they

could get him. and they can also get him. it is not known who, how, but there is no protection. well, because, well, absolutely, with air defense systems with everything that is there, the russians did not promise that it would not fly away, but there is not only the fly, and it turns out that you can fly a grenade anywhere that was used there, so that the partisans are not partisans. his fear of the fact, because they said a long time ago, war will come to you, it is the same as in russia, it comes, it is an axiom, and that is why it is such a fear for oneself, for one's life, for one's future, and when a person is afraid, she can say anything there arbitrarily defending so what i would perceive it that way, but this assessment was given at the level of the ministry of foreign affairs. that is, it was said in principle, i think enough is said about this matter, but it must be understood that when this is said and then strikes are made on the territory of ukraine

with missiles, then this person definitely does not want any good neighborliness, that is, there is actually in this war, everything is possible except for the last thing left. and here he will spin as much as possible or simply not lose power because he has already lost almost everything , the russians control more and more, he wants the russians not to occupy the country for good because of taking control from him over this, now all segments of management in belarus, that is, he has his own goals, and in conclusion, i will say if the diplomatic representation brings us something, i don’t really doubt it, for example, there is an example of georgia and russia. there are no relations, but look at the pro-russian position

is growing on the contrary, well, that is, there is no direct dependence on the presence or absence of relations and the position of the government, as it is not surprising at some short stages, so i think so , we need to see what the official minsk will do next time and if there is a situation where it will be necessary to react in this way, it must be done, another event this sunday happened near the ukrainian border or near the border with transnistria, not through transnistria , mass protests by pro-russian forces took place in moldova, the local police say that they prevented plans to provoke mass riots during these events which were supposed to destabilize the situation in the country , the moldovan side says that the saboteurs were exposed. 54 protesters were arrested. during the last two weeks

, there was a lot of information from the russian side federations that the ukrainians seem to be preparing a provocation in the unrecognized transnistrian moldavian republic , they arrested a local resident who said that he was preparing an assassination attempt on the leader of the unrecognized republic. how do you assess the prospects of using moldova in the war against ukraine , considering the russian contingent in the transnistrian moldavian republic ? unrecognized and in moldova itself , to what extent can russia use the territory of the republic in order to start provocations there, and, accordingly, hostilities because there, the russian contingent is literally standing not far away, well, the position of moldova is what will happen there, this is our southern flank, and there is not only the question of how this

territory, which is actually controlled by the russians in transnistria, can be used in the war, that is, the question is not yet there what about transferring sufficient forces there in the given conditions? i think it will be very difficult. and what is available there, especially in terms of motivation, is not enough to solve any strategic issues there, nevertheless , destabilization in moldova, the transfer of power in a regime of more pro-russian or even such provocations on the border is what will create even the provocations themselves . that is, it is necessary to concentrate the forces of the ukrainian defense there, we may have these provocations for protection, that is , to divert our efforts, especially now, russia really needs the second - it will create problems and already are created even for our people

who received refuge in the same moldova or moved on through moldova, that is, there are many questions that in this moldovan environment i would say not homogeneous as in ukraine it is also possible to impose through propaganda and such special and informational and psychological operations. well, not only informational operations, but directly through actions on the streets. therefore, in my opinion, it is very important that the government and the president of moldova keep the situation under control. well, the second still seems to me that the countries bordering moldova and currently not participating in the war like romania, they should have played a greater stabilizing role in this situation, which is well , i do not relieve ukraine of

responsibility, despite the war for us this is an important country, our neighbor, and we will help, but we still have a lot of resources and efforts going to defense on other fronts, so the key issue is to preserve the status quo as it is now and prevent provocations by russia. well, the second, of course, is for moldova to decide , but this is an abnormal situation when on your territory there are uncontrolled and in sausage warehouses that can explode ecological consequences and the troops of another country , that is, all the more that are there illegally, there is absolutely no legal istanbul solution in due time and all the conclusions further indicate that this is an illegal stay of the russians on

the territory of moldova , therefore there is a complex of issues: is there a danger from there and can it be minimized? from march 29 to evict the moscow priests from the kyiv-pechersk lavra, in your opinion, the existence of a church branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine in this form, to what extent does it threaten the stability of ukraine, and can russia to take advantage of the dissatisfaction of these moscow priests in order to destabilize the situation inside ukraine well, i did not understand the situation before, how could it be that the largest amount of money is collected for the russian church in ukraine in parishes of ukraine, i did not understand how some representatives can now take a clearly pro-russian position or a russian position or even refuse to mourn

ukrainian soldiers, this is not the church, this is not the church. this is already a branch of the fbi's work or special services on the territory of another country. the organization is registered as a public organization, it is not a party, it is not a state institution, but they behave brazenly by imposing their position, that is, on the one hand, i believe that as an institution of civil society , the public organization had all the opportunities to prove that it will act specifically for the benefit of ukraine she showed in the 14th year and especially now after the full-scale invasion that they are clearly acting not for ukraine, that is why there are many people of this church who still do not understand the specific reasons if

to reveal these facts, how the financing takes place, how they keep the buildings, what they actually do on the territory of ukraine, then it will become clear that this is definitely not what we call a church, for me this top is no longer a religious organization, it is an offshoot of russian influence and the russian mechanism of a hybrid war that has now grown into a full-scale by the way, yesterday the state audit service published a document according to which 36 buildings were erected on the territory of the kyiv-pechersk lavra by the governor of the kyiv-pechersk lavra, pavel by the swan, the so-called pasha mercedes, and it is clear that the state must somehow react and respond adequately to the existence of a branch of a foreign church on the territory of ukraine, mr. valery thank you for participating in the program it was valery chaly, a diplomat, politician, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the united states

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