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[000:00:00;00] chikah and for example in hotels that are located somewhere near the festival. unfortunately, it is an important topic about which you and i say goodbye and finish the episode. contact us, film expert alex malyshenko, we talked about the oscar and not only the oscar. thank you for this, we are ending the episode . see you tomorrow thank you, i will be able to continue the ukrainian team of miners football cache quarter finals watch the matches of shakhtar against penord and support our club exclusively on megogo there are moments when
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of war has begun to crack reports the american edition politiko is one of the so-called stumbling blocks crimea allegedly in the pentagon doubts that the ukrainian military will be able to oust russia from crimea, what is the root of the doubts and under what conditions washington could hand over weapons to kyiv to liberate the peninsula in exchange for the shevchenko award on taras shevchenko's birthday were not the names of the laureates were published and the corresponding presidential decree was not published, this caused a scandal of resignations and accusations against the office of the president, they say, does bankov aspire to everything else, including culture influence whether such suspicions have any basis, let's talk about the oscar, which outraged ukrainians, navalny's film pro-russian oppositionist oleksii navalny won the oscar in the category of the best documentary film , how much is in the decision of the film academy actually the cinema and how much is politics about it today svoboda life between the authorities of the usa and ukraine,
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disagreements are growing regarding how russia's war against ukraine must end . politicus reports this with reference to sources. in the administration of the white house, the unity of the united states and ukraine in matters of war has begun to yield cracks are mentioned in the title of the publication and although publicly there were practically no disagreements between joe biden and volodymyr zelensky and the american president demonstrated his support, in particular, with his unexpected visit to kyiv in february, the publication notes that based on a conversation with ten legislative officials, experts managed to identify the main points of tension between ukraine and the usa , among which, in particular, the grueling defense of bakhmut , as well as ukraine's intention to liberate crimea, bakhmut the politician writes that numerous representatives the us administration expresses concern that ukraine spends so much manpower and ammunition in bakhmut and that this may undermine its ability to carry out a large-scale counteroffensive in the spring, the politician quotes the head of the pentagon
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, lloyd austin, who stated that the defense of bakhmut, from his point of view, has more symbolic value than strategic and operational importance the white house also allegedly believes that ukraine should abandon the idea of deoccupying crimea by military means, the politician writes, according to the publication, the pentagon doubts that the ukrainian military, despite the fact that armed with the latest western weapons , they will be able to oust russia from crimea, writes a politician well, in the meantime, the majority of ukrainians seek the liberation of crimea, even against the background of a decrease in western aid, as evidenced by the results of a survey by the kyiv international institute of sociology, 64% of ukrainians are convinced that it is necessary to try to liberate the entire territory of ukraine, including crimea even if it means a longer war and a decrease in support for the measure, at the same time, 24% are inclined to what in exchange for the liberation and protection of all
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territories with donbas, ukraine could to refrain from military actions in crimea is a word to discuss, on the one hand, there is an absolute consensus in ukrainian society to return all ukrainian territories, including crimea , western officials publicly say that it is ukraine that will decide on what conditions the war should end and in what way kyiv will return crimea, but on the other hand, ukraine depends on western weapons ; the pace of return of ukrainian territories depends on the quantity and quality of weapons; if indeed there is a misunderstanding between kyiv and washington regarding crimea, this will directly affect when and under what conditions the war will end, the head of the center for joint actions, the vice-prime minister of ukraine for european integration , 2005 oleg rybachuk joined our broadcast olezhe good evening greetings i just got through warsaw today from two international conferences that were in florida, united states exactly what we are talking about, there were a lot of conversations oh great then there is what is there what to tell well then the american media, in particular
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the policy that i quoted, writes that there are disagreements between ukraine and the united states regarding the crimea, do these messages look like to you believable, in that case, share well, i will remind you, they remind me a little bit of chewed gum, because from time to time, and in particular, the politics of these sins, the information space is thrown out . when you start to understand and try to get to the sources, in principle, you hear that there are various officials. and there are some opinions and in fact, there is nothing new here, because we have already heard and it is not the first time that we have heard about the fact that, for example , there are differences in the views of the pentagon officials and the ukrainian leadership of the armed forces, but listen
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, good people, history shows that this has happened more than once when we were persistently advised to do some or other things, when all the top beaumonds of the united states military made predictions and were very wrong, so when i hear such things, well, i perceive them quite skeptically , because in reality the war is being waged by the ukrainian armed forces, in fact, our soldiers are actually dying no one is more interested in victory than we are, and for victory we just need weapons, if our partners in washington and there are some congressmen there and anyone there is worried that we do not suffer losses, then let's more effective weapons, and here it is very illogical, i don’t know if you talked about it, but i read that somewhere these political sources talked about the fact that the united states is delaying the delivery of long-range missiles to ukraine with a parcel to crimea, if you talked about it, then here
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there is simply no logic at all, because a missile with a long range will allow ukraine to liberate crimea, just as kherson was liberated, simply by cutting off logistical routes and making crimea not unrelated to the possibility of maintaining military bases there, and therefore then can move on to diplomacy, but now it is fundamentally necessary to say that without crimea, because it is unclear here, we are talking about the fact that someone in washington opposes weapons because they believe that the liberation of crimea will be an escalation or the liberation of crimea by military means will be an escalation, one thing must be said that without crimea, ukrainian ukraine will never be safe or economically prosperous because crimea is
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the black sea, it is an opportunity for ukraine to export its goods, and whoever owns crimea actually owns the black sea, and now russia is demonstrating that she takes maximum advantage of the fact that her troops and missiles are located in crimea, therefore, without crimea, ukraine cannot talk about any kind of peace, and the ways to achieve this peace are very simple indeed, give us weapons, give us missiles with a long range and we will liberate crimea, perhaps without of clashes of ground troops well, if we assume that there really are people in washington who have disagreements about whether it is worth or not to help ukraine to liberate crimea, let's assume that there are such voices, and they probably definitely are. maybe they are so do you understand the motivation of what these people are afraid of and where the roots of these disagreements can come from? you know. and i have already been to conferences of the record and
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house, but this issue really bothered me as i spoke with some very influential and knowledgeable people there and i heard amazing news about which we in ukraine were not told when to my direct question what the hell why why don't you understand that the sooner you give us weapons the sooner the war ends the better it is in your interests you will spend less weapons you you will avoid a direct confrontation with russia, as it was during the second world war, when hitler was let far away and then had to fight. why, what are you afraid of? you know what i heard and i heard that there are some people in the presidential administration who are afraid that if ukraine is given in time powerful weapons
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, it will be uncontrolled. and they are afraid of the very fact that the most modern, most powerful ukrainian army will stop paying attention to them at all, and this disease, in particular, in the white house, there are definitely people , well, we will not say which sullivans there are, but there are people who really like to control everything, who want to clearly control every step of any thing, and then a certain logic appears . the western world does not have a single point of view on what victory is and how the war in ukraine should end, and we talked a lot about it, and you get to a point where i quote president biden to them, he quotes the vice president, and the speech of the vice- president in
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the munich conference where they talk about the fact that russia committed genocide, crimes against humanity and it must be brought to justice, i ask them how you are going to do it because macron's famous phrase that russia must be broken but not killed to the end and here and here we think that it is possible somehow and i see the information that it is possible to achieve certain successes there, and i emphasize the word of certain people and then sit down for negotiations. and they do not consider the moment of such a crushing defeat of russia, they are afraid of this moment for some reason. the politics from which i started, it gives a great, in my opinion, a quote by michael mccall, the chairman of the foreign affairs committee of the house of representatives, so and so he says, he tells journalists that the biden administration does not have a clear political task and a clear goal, or
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to prolong this matter, what exactly does vladimir putin want to give them enough to survive but not to win. i don't see the politics of victory now. and if we don't have it, what do we do ? well, actually, that's the same question. and what is the strategy, the strategic goal of the usa in relation to ukraine, to hold out or to give i understand that elections are inter-party matters, but congress really asks very logical questions, and public opinion in the united states also because it is about the fact that american taxpayers spend huge amounts of money, but any expert will tell you that if the war is ended quickly and decisively . and this can be done by providing certain weapons, then it will be much less expensive than playing the game that putin offers, a game of survival to drag on for years and there are
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elections, and again i reminded them about the situation with hitler, if hitler had been stopped often, there would not have been a terrible world war ii, and here and there there are questions and the fact that congress is starting to ask these questions is very good for us ukrainians, but the short answer is obvious to me , the only clear strategy of the united states administration in the white house now there are several groups, some of them think about the same as you and i, others try not to avoid escalation, to maintain bridges with putin there to think about business interests, you know that last year, american companies that remained on the territory of russia and paid 850 billion dollars in taxes, these are only american companies on the russian market, we imagine what kind of money is involved, what interests are involved , and there are also germans and french and other companies
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, so even during the war, someone earns very well and these groups of course they are pressing, but in the dry residue they have to understand one thing that an unfinished viper will bring much more evil and harm and it will cost the americans much more, it can cost the lives of american soldiers and it can be real lead to a global conflict, now there is an opportunity to do it, cynically speaking, by the hands of ukrainians who are ready to do it, give us weapons, but there is no single strategy , just the closer to the elections, the more there will be talk about it, well, actually, this is what volodymyr zelenskyi said when he addressed the american taxpayers taxes. if you now help ukraine with weapons, you will help simply with weapons. and if russia carries out some kind of invasion and aggression against nato countries, then you will help not only with weapons, but also with your
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personnel, your people, well actually yes this is what you are saying. well, the american press also writes about this, although publicly biden continues to adhere to his position that the usa will leave all decisions about war and peace to the discretion of volodymyr zelenskyi or the ukrainian authorities of the ukrainian people. but this is what the press in washington writes they are already beginning to change their minds, however , as much as it is possible to help as much as is necessary , since the war continues, it does not end. everything is more difficult and the question arises how realistically we can fulfill this promise, we will be with you as long as it takes what you say what they say about it in the states , this is how the conversation goes. ukraine will actually decide what ukraine needs by the end of the year, but diplomats will continue to work
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, because now the formula announced in the white house is to be with ukraine as long as necessary, but this formula needs to be changed to be with ukraine to victory, and we must talk about achieving a quick victory, and already a number of military experts are saying that it is possible , we really need to give a little weapons, this is some insignificant percentage of the huge american budget, and in particular, these long-range missiles and planes, these phantoms , literally, a certain type of weapons about everyone is already saying that it must be done in time, because if it is not done, we will enter next year. and there are elections, that is, it is illogical in general. well, one more thing must be added that for the american administration for the democrats and
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in general, it is absolutely unacceptable for america to fail this campaign, as they failed another such disgrace in afghanistan, the united states will not survive their reputation has already fallen so much against the background of what china is doing, which has already acted as a broker between sudan, the more united arab emirates and iran and and will now hold negotiations in beijing. that's all. ask in moscow. that's all china is doing for america. china is showing america that it is a global player and china will do everything to prevent america from succeeding. but is it in american interests to give leadership in the world to an authoritarian regime, they talk about it a lot. it doesn't matter whether the republican stands or not, because thank you. your point is so clear. of ukraine on european integration in 2005, we talked about the mood inside the united states well , if you watch us on the internet, please
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like this broadcast, the algorithm works in such a way what the more likes, the more people will know about us well and so, a sociological survey shows that the majority of ukrainians are convinced that it is necessary to try to liberate the entire territory of ukraine, including crimea, even if it means a longer war and a decrease in support for the west. well , how realistic is it to liberate crimea in if western support will decrease , this is what we will also talk about now. in addition , we will remember what is happening in bakhmut, the head of the center for military legal research , oleksandr musienko, joins our on the air oleksandr my greetings can you see us hear yes i see and hear us congratulations i mentioned sociology more than 60% of ukrainians are convinced that the entire territory of ukraine including crimea should be liberated even if it means that the war will last longer if
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we want to turn this conversation off course and we can imagine that at the political level the allies will really decide not to give kyiv enough weapons to liberate crimea for various reasons, because whether or not there is still the potential to liberate the peninsula acquired experience and our own resources. there is potential. this must be understood on the condition that we really receive the weapons we need . we see that a number of decisions are being made literally these days . of french president macron they adopted one of the decisions that is also tangential i think and concerns the de-occupation of the south and crimea, they adopted a decision on the expansion of the training mission for marines of the naval forces of ukraine i think that this
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things that are directly related to each other, that is, provided that the resources of our trained units and reserves are available, and if we managed to implement everything that was said, prepare 6-7 brigades that are generally fresh abroad, what is currently being prepared on the training grounds of nato countries and equip them with modern western weapons starting from armored vehicles and ending with medium-range missiles . i think that these are absolutely real tasks, you see, everything depends on how successful and fast the offensive will be, for example, melitopol or in another point in the south, because it can to sprinkle the entire structure that exists and in this way to trap the occupier in crimea, but then the approaches differ. for example, if we are talking about our partners, then the opinions of experts diverged, some experts say that then ukraine should go further and enter the peninsula and in fact stop it in this way occupation by hostilities and
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by military means, there is another opinion that it is possible in principle to fire control over the main military objects of the enemy in the crimea, it will be enough to put pressure on russia in this way, so that they are under threat of, let's say, serious problems for them groups in crimea they began to take some actions for de-occupation, well, in fact, as a gesture of so-called goodwill, this is the approach . given the availability of resources , it is, in principle , a matter of time. these are resources and capabilities. well, actually what the american press writes today is politics , in particular, we quoted that the pentagon expresses doubts that the ukrainian forces, despite the fact that they are armed with modern weapons, will be able to push russia out of crimea, primarily because
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russia has been entrenched there for almost 10 years, and i understand that you do not fully share these doubts. well, there are doubts. there is such an assessment, of course , it depends on whether we will have long-range artillery with a range of action that will enable us to actually hit from the isthmus almost to sevastopol, to reach of the main facilities, if we have it available, then to terrorize the enemy with such strikes and gradually destroy his military infrastructure, no matter how much they prepare there , i agree that they really accumulated and militarized during the years of occupation crimea i agree with this, but there is an approach, you see, there are two approaches, one approach is to directly enter the crimea and lay siege to sevastopol , as has happened many times in history, and the second approach is simply to keep them under fire control, constantly weakening them for a certain period of time, this is definitely will take, but this is one of the strategies that can be implemented in the end . look, now we need to look at the actions
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of the russian authorities in the occupation, and the statement of the head of the occupation authorities, aksyonov , he said that we are strengthening and strengthening the defense of crimea, taking into account the military experience of previous campaigns and so on, and they are digging dugout trenches there, although where are the armed forces of ukraine now? look, they are at what distance from crimea, and they are already starting . that is why the enemy is panicking, and it is noticeable from him that it means that they are not completely sure of themselves either. they feel despite everything because they say that in principle crimea is fortified and they will not let anyone take it, but at the same time, ukraine has not yet received the necessary missiles from the west to hit there, as you mentioned. yes yes, unfortunately, to date, well, at least officially. yes, we do not hear. we can assume something or we receive something. not everything
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is disclosed, but officially we have not heard about it. for some reason, my feelings tell me that decisions would be made about missiles sooner , this is how it was with the situation a year ago, when we saw how the history of providing weapons to ukraine developed, the more we had successes, the more we defended ourselves then in this and that the more we received weapons for our defense , the bahmut of the donetsk region is very difficult, his direct speech is very difficult . abroad
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, i want to wish you that you fulfill your tasks and return to your units , only live damaged to me, glory to ukraine , glory to oleksandr, the american press writes with reference to representatives of the administration in the white house, they are expressing concern that ukraine is spending a lot of manpower and ammunition in bakhmut, that this could undermine its ability to launch a large-scale counteroffensive in the spring. do you share these concerns? what can you say? plans are now directly in place and of course what they express let's say so or hints or sometimes even experts can afford in the leading american media they directly question the expediency of what is happening right now under bakhmut
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and they are declaring that defense minister lloyd austin may have to step down . i want to remind the united states. a week ago, he was not direct, but he made such a hint that bakhmut has lost its strategic meaning, it is more symbolic , therefore. well, they have such a point of view they express it we have the decision of the stake of the supreme commander to carry out the task of destroying the enemy's forces to draw out as many of his forces as possible to destroy the enemy and stop the offensive and buy time for preparation of reserves, that's what general selsky said, that's definitely, well, that's the approach. he has the right to life, but it's important to us that you understand, it's important for us to communicate, after all, to cooperate with our partners , obviously explaining the decisions that are made , maybe in more detail, maybe i don't know , giving additional arguments to someone it may seem secondary, because it is clear that we have a war on our territory, only
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we decide how to defend ourselves, i agree and i support it, and no one will argue with the decision of the bet, of course, but i i would just like to point out that today we are still largely dependent on our issues and weapons in the matter of assistance in the matter of intelligence data and even in the matter of preparation for our counteroffensive because our troops are trained on training grounds of nato countries, they will be equipped with this weapons and we cannot take their opinion lightly , therefore the communication component in this sense must be established, but for today , let's say some critical fatal moment for us about what we in the usa or in the west they said that we are not satisfied with you, so we will not support it. it is not for the beginning. this year, the united states and the west gave ukraine. now i will name the number , it
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is important two- thirds of the total aid. the moment to understand that the aid is not decreasing, but it is also worth it, the fact is that our partners have certain calculations for this aid and they are talking about it, and you yourself quoted lloyd austin. i also wanted to remind you of what he said last week it is difficult to ignore from the overview and for the help that the defense of bakhmut bakhmut from his point of view has a more symbolic meaning than a strategic or even an operational one. that is, it is completely at odds with the messages and reports that we hear from the ukrainian side and here from one side because from one side really the ukrainians are more visible to the ukrainian command, political leadership, and on the other hand, the usa is the main ally and probably they also have some vision of their own, well, of course, you understand here , it is important that i will explain simply what was
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clear about what the question is what the partners are worried about is whether there will be enough resources in the future for the ukrainian forces to counter effectively . they are constantly there trying to criticize or disagree with something, they just, specifically regarding this issue , earlier russia clearly thought that bakhmut would be a trap for ukrainian troops, we will be there to throw away all our reserves. as it turned out, it was not so, after all, i want to remind you that this is the publication that was from the economist last week, where there is a reference to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, general zaluzhnyi, where he said that our reserves are being prepared abroad and there is strength, i think that they such statements should reassure some of our partners oleksandr, thank you very much oleksandr musienko,
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