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[000:00:00;00] even now, it is very critical for ukraine to have its own supply of ammunition so that the ukrainians can continue to repel attacks and also go into a counteroffensive. what does the west want from ukraine, do they want ukraine not to lose or for it to win? this is a very important question . i think that the collective action gives ukraine what what it needs in order not to lose and it still does not provide what it needs to win, but behind the victory of ukraine is actually democracy in the whole world, because ukraine is now actually fighting for the entire international order. we are not are we talking about attacking russia? no, we are talking now about protection against genocide and war crimes, but what can
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be considered a victory for the usa or are we talking about the liberation of crimea? the aggressor would not be able to re-establish the world international order, because we understand that if putin succeeds, other dictators can actually do it too, they will start re -colonizing some territories that were lost in the past. that is, we are now saying about the demilitarization of russia, it is not necessary to simply stop its military actions in ukraine, do you believe that there is really something that could stop putin, a very complex question , if he does not succeed in winning a military
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victory in ukraine, then this will stop the current aggression in ukraine, yes or not should we liberate crimea this year before liberating donbas we need to do it militarily it 's actually a very difficult decision when to do it can you do it militarily like this provided if continue to come deliveries, as well as the execution
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of certain operations will be carried out. yes, but when we are, when will this happen? is this the last goal for ukraine ? of course, crimea is the sovereign territory of ukraine . that is, the borders need to be restored as of 1991. can you still say when it is possible to defeat the russian army in ukraine this year and when a lot of countries can influence it? to strengthen the effort, we now understand that the russians lack both people and equipment, and therefore in fact it is necessary to bring the responsible persons to justice, so yes, this year it is possible, and my last question is whether china can somehow help russia. if it helps, then can this be considered a turning point? yes, the situation will be much much more difficult depending on what kind of help
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china can give to russia of course this support support for such illegal genocidal aggression it would be very unwise for china thank you for this interview on the air of the program spotland ukraine see you next time russian propaganda continues to spread fakes about ukraine this time media close to the kremlin accuse our country of preparing provocations in unrecognized transnistria and even in the production of chemical weapons more details in our weekly review called fak jack zelensky called the united states of america to send its citizens to fight for ukraine is spreading messages on social networks that the president of ukraine is allegedly calling on nato
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to enter the war if they do not want to give enough weapons and the usa to send its sons and daughters to participate in military operations as proof users add an 18-second excerpt from zelenskyi's press conference on the anniversary of the full-scale invasion of russia the united states of america will send its sons and daughters as we send today we this excerpt the interview is taken out of context and misleads the audience, the shared video is part of the answer of the president of ukraine to a bbc journalist's question about what he wanted to say to the growing number of american citizens who believe that the usa provides too much support to ukraine and if it happens that ukraine will not survive due to one or another opinion due to the weakening of one or another aid , russia will come to the nato countries, this will happen , they will come from the baltic states, they will enter and
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take over the baltic states, this will happen and then the united the states of america will send their sons and daughters as we send them. today we send ours and they will fight and fight because it is nato and will die . it is clear from the full answer that volodymyr zelenskyy did not call on nato to join war on the side of ukraine and even more so did not declare that the usa should send its troops to fight against russia danilov declared that ukraine is ready to stop the destabilization in moldova by military means, the russian media wrote about this and some even added that kyiv does not rule out the invasion of ukrainian troops into transnistria kyiv can intervene in the situation surrounding the unrecognized transnistrian republic of moldova if the moldovan authorities ask for it -
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the secretary of the national security and defense council said in an interview with rbc ukraine on march 3 oleksiy danilov of ukraine oleksiy danilov did not make any statements regarding ukraine's readiness to help moldova militarily in case of russian attempts to destabilize the situation. when asked by a journalist whether kyiv is ready to support kishinev militarily, in particular , the secretary of the nsdc replied that if there is such an appeal, it can be considered taking into account all processes and the circumstances that are taking place. moreover, since we are neighbors , it was this quote that became the reason for manipulation , but danilov did not make any statements that ukraine is ready to provide moldova with military support and all the more is preparing an invasion of transnistria ukraine is making a dirty bomb using california 252 russian mass media are actively spreading the disinformation statement of the spokeswoman of the russian foreign ministry, maria sakharova, who once again
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tried to accuse kyiv of creating nuclear weapons according to these data on february 16 to the port of chornomorsk, bypassing customs inspection , containers with radioactive substances and english-language labeling were delivered from the territory of one of the european states . zakharova stated that the kyiv regime was preparing an armed provocation against transnistria, adding that ukraine is allegedly planning an attack using radioactive substances, moreover, this time the russian disinformation is absurd. from a scientific point of view, california 252, which zakharova claims is an extremely rare and incredibly expensive radioactive metal, california 252 is not found in nature and is produced exclusively in laboratories conditions in the high-current isotope reactor , this is not the first time that the russian authorities have tried to accuse ukraine of preparing mythical nuclear
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provocations, however, none of the kremlin's statements was confirmed this time, not an exception. the ministry of foreign affairs of moldova, in response to russian disinformation, said that it does not comment on fakes. so guess you are watching the ukrainian version of atla ukraine, and now in our fake check section we will destroy the myths that are constantly produced by russian propaganda and the next guest is evgeny fetchenko. chief editor of stop fake, mr. yevgeny, congratulations, thank you for the invitation, and why does russian propaganda constantly parasitize on the topic of the participation of foreigners in the war on the side of ukraine, and this is far from new the technique she uses. to be more precise, this is not the first time she refers to this, that is, if we look at the history of the russian war against ukraine, starting from
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2014, stories constantly appeared, fake stories, of course, about the fact that in fact it is not ukraine that is fighting, but on the side of ukraine that is actually fighting because the representatives of foreign armies. we have seen, that is, the polish army, which seems to be involved, the pentagon, foreign military companies , which seem to be participating. with a simple goal, firstly, to diminish the role of the ukrainian armed forces, to discredit them and to show that in fact ukraine itself cannot conduct military operations that are particularly effective if it is to be said, and this is an effective campaign from the point of view of various indicators, and secondly, why are they talking about this
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to a foreign audience because they want to intimidate her, first of all, by shining, so to speak, the internationalization of this conflict, this war, but they say that sooner or later the west will have to fight and get involved in it anyway, and the only way to avoid this is to prove it provoke russia, do not provide ukraine with weapons , do not escalate or cross red lines, as they say. debunked the fake, but in fact, the story was about a completely different story and it was said in a completely different context that if you do not help ukraine now and ukraine will fall, then you
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yourself will have to fight and then for sure your soldiers will have to take part in this because, first of all, it is in the interests of the west to support ukraine now, including supporting it with weapons and other types of support in order not to have to take part directly in this war later, but this myth, as i have already said, is russian propaganda he constantly uses ot and sometimes it took on such completely comical turns. for example , there was once a story about a few years ago that afro-polish troops were allegedly fighting in the east of ukraine, ot and polish troops. that is, they are african-americans only from poland for some reason, and they decided to use such a construct. so this was one of the examples of history that have not only this fake in order to discredit
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the armed forces of ukraine, but also such, as it were, racist undertones which should work very well for the russian public, for the russian audience that uses such things very often in social networks, that is , it is understandable for the domestic consumer, and for the international community it is a narrative of what if you won't stop the ukrainian army now. then the third world war may begin, according to russian propaganda, in fact, that is, this is exactly the thesis, the narrative that is very actively spreading . so, again, every time ukraine either receives additional weapons or there are some meetings in ramstein about weapons every time after that, russia talks about red lines and again it is used to intimidate the west with the third world war, which can be avoided, which
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can be avoided only in one way, this stop supporting ukraine another group of fakes that is related to transnistria for some reason lately they are constantly trying to support this topic in the russian media , does it mean that they are putting it out in huge numbers and even discussing in talk shows that it is necessary to prepare for of new provocations it is from russian propaganda and from the russian special services, well, again, here we must remember that this discussion of the transnistria topic did not start now, it has been going on for more than a year, and the last phase of this, well and this is used again on the one hand, in order to accuse ukraine of destabilizing the region, to cast a shadow
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again on the armed forces of ukraine, as if they are trying to transfer this conflict to neighboring countries, but in fact, this is what russia is doing and is actively using the topic of transnistria for in order to destabilize the region itself and the government in chisinau, but this narrative also has a very important military application, because if russia constantly talks about possible even its own military indirectly by throwing in such fakes, it means that ukraine must constantly keep its troops in combat readiness and not far from moldova and, accordingly, pull them away from other areas where their participation would be much more important to date . that is, it can be such a distracting
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maneuver, but constantly talking about moldova is actually trying to destabilize the situation somewhere in another part of the front. well , once again paraphrasing the words of the ukrainian leadership, for example, they try to present the fact that ukraine is constantly threatening to use force. i have already said that ukraine should look like this, as a source of aggression and a source of regional instability , accordingly, this should affect who and how supports ukraine or does not support it . thank you. i heard the phrase "dirty bomb" i already thought to calm down, but no
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, first there were combat mosquitoes, then there were combat geese , now californium is again a chemical weapon , despite the seemingly complete absurdity of what they are trying to produce in the russian propaganda machine for someone, everything this information is calculated, why are they doing it? well, if we go back to a year ago, to the moment before the full-scale invasion of ukraine by russia, we will remember that it was this narrative that ukraine was allegedly trying to acquire nuclear weapons that russia used such a grant narrative in order to explain if to articulate the reasons for their aggression, as it were, in order to stop ukraine from obtaining nuclear weapons, is in fact another variant of the same fake narrative
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. and in general, such examples of the use of fakes related to nuclear, chemical or biological weapons, there are very, very many of them, again, the main audience here is in the west in order to intimidate the audiences there and , once again, to make ukraine's support much smaller in order to show that it seems that ukraine is violating international agreements, uses various prohibited types of weapons, actively works on their development, so it is not russia that is a violator, it is an aggressor and a violator of international law, but it seems that ukraine violates all these norms of international
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law, so although these stories that we debunked there, it is very clearly written why exactly this element cannot be used, well, more precisely, technically it can, but from the point of view of the expediency of the probability of its use, and this is absolutely ridiculous. so , again, there is another important detail that russia is only one of two countries which have access to this element, and therefore it is possible that every time russia uses some accusations towards ukraine, it thus reflects some of its plans and some of its strategic ideas that it wants to implement in relation to ukraine, at least we should not reject such a possibility, but what about the biolaboratories, because at first, for several months from the time of the full-scale invasion, this news was constantly circulating, and then, not having the facts, they quietly hushed it all up, how is this happening from the point of view of logic for the consumer
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talked talked talked then bam and there is nothing and complete informational silence in fact they raise this topic quite regularly because it is one of the key points of how to build such strategic narratives their it is necessary to constantly repeat and nourish so that they are imprinted in the memory of those who consume it. and this is exactly how they do it according to the textbook, information appears from time to time, and here we also have to understand that even when it is not and this information continues to live its own life because it is fake information. if we go now to social networks in different countries, riz, we will find this information there, where
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ukraine is accused of developing some types of weapons for its biological and people appeal to it, repeat it, that is, regardless of whether russia is using this narrative at this very moment, it lives its own life, and there will always be an audience that will gladly use it, repeat it, reinforce it for very different reasons, it may be some audience that specifically works to reinforce russian disinformation these may be those who are supporters of some there are also many conspiracy theories, that is, these bubbles are alive and this one will be used for their information needs, even if for a while he disappeared
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from sight somewhere, thank you, thank you, mr. yevhen yevhen fetchenko, the editor-in-chief of stop fake was just a guest of our permanent fake-check column, you are watching the ukrainian version of train in patlight. what in the world this week , how will these events affect ukraine as our international columnist yuriy fizer knows for sure, this week in the world seemed unexpectedly full, and obviously because of the protests in georgia about them and much more in my part of spotlight ukraine, the ukrainian version of my name is yuriy fizer and i am starting at the parliamentary elections in in estonia, the party of the current prime minister of the country kai kalas won, her reformists won 37 seats in the parliament , which consists of 101 , the conservative party finished second, she won the support of a little more than 60% of the country's citizens with the right to vote , the centrists took the third place, now the panic is that kalas will have to hold negotiations with representatives of other political forces that passed to the parliament, this is
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necessary for the creation of a coalition government. well , and more news from the world in our digest , it is necessary to strengthen control over compliance of sanctions against russia, the president of the european commission , ursula fonderlein, stated this during a meeting with us president joe biden on saturday at the white house, in addition, they discussed the issue of energy security and the war in ukraine. and make russia pay a heavy price for her brutal war, the governments of france and great britain are unanimous in that ukraine must continue to help her complete victory about this during british prime minister rishi sunak and french president emmanuel macron said at a press conference on friday in paris. during the final press conference, they both said that in order for ukraine to win the russian war and russia to lose once and for all, kyiv needs
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continue to give enough weapons so that he sits down at the negotiating table with an advantage, if china does decide to give russia its weapons, then berlin will have to help ukraine even more than now, german defense minister boris pistorius said this during an interview german radio station, at the same time, he noted that in such a case, the role of heaven as a peace mediator between ukraine and russia , which could put pressure on the leadership in the kremlin , will be significantly weakened. and he called such a scenario disappointing. in geopolitical terms, we will continue to support ukraine in its fair fight against russian aggression but we will not decide something behind the backs of the ukrainians , german chancellor olaf scholz said at the beginning of the week at a press conference following the results of the meeting of the country's government. mr. scholz once again emphasized that official berlin will continue to help ukraine as much as it will be necessary for its victory, ukraine needs more ammunition, the head of european
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diplomacy, josep borel, said on wednesday in stockholm at an informal meeting of the ministers of the eu member states, in particular, mr. borel said that the expenses of the european union for the immediate supply of ammunition from european arsenals will amount to 1 billion euros. and the program of medium-term assistance and joint ordering may reach 4 billion euros despite failures on the front putin will most likely try to continue his aggressive war in ukraine for many years , the head of us national intelligence, avril haynes, said during the hearings in the us senate, according to her, the president of the aggressor country, vladimir putin, is convinced that time is on his side and that is why he is considering the option of continuing his war as the best to ensure the execution of his plans. not all protests worked in the georgian parliament, they withdrew
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the scandalous bill on foreign agents, this is stated in the statement of the ruling party, the georgian dream of the initiator of the civil movement document, the strength of the people and the parliamentary majority , according to representatives of these political forces, the initiative caused disagreements in society, and its adoption in the first reading in the eyes of a part of the public was presented as a departure from the european course, i will remind the parliament of georgia on march 7 passed the bill on foreign agents in the first reading, it caused protests and clashes under the parliament and more about the situation in georgia and how it can develop i will talk to my guest, this is volodymyr kopchak, an expert of the south caucasian branch of the center for the study of army conversion and disarmament, mr. volodymyr well, let's talk about georgia, obviously the country's parliament failed the law on foreign agents, or in other words, he simply voted against it in the second reading, is it possible this is considered a victory of the georgian people during the protests, and
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the second question immediately after this is whether we should expect anything further after this, because there are already statements by the opposition that they are not going to do this they are going to stop and that they will demand various resignations . at this stage, speaking in the language of sports , it is definitely a complete victory of georgian civil society without options. he demanded that this law be repealed procedurally and according to the regulations, he did not leave any chance for the authorities so that it could relax a little and start playing. she tried to do it because to withdraw the law according to the georgian legislation, after it was voted in the first reading, it is impossible. in principle, they pushed to the point that a voted in the second reading against another moment they wanted to play a week a week to play that you
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destroyed something there before we can't work on it squeezed gathered out of turn in on friday, they voted for a big handicap , removed the issues, withdrew their desire to send him to the venice commission and withdrew another version of the law, which was called about not agents, but tracing paper from the american volume at this stage this is a complete victory of civil society regarding what will happen next, all the demands have not been removed . first, another marker of victory yesterday was in aral order, more than 130 people were released . street and requires an attack, first of all to exclude even with regard to the removed some others any let's say criminal prosecutions and another point - this is the most
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interesting for me, this is sorry, not criminal, but political responsibility first of all the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs has a specific demand and another moment of the entire government, i think that in this sense the street will work, but from the point of view of whether it will turn into a classic let's say so, sorry for such analogies, a revolutionary scenario. after all, giving way, he will try to play with the protest while he is traveling, and drinking into the weakest point of this protest - it is the dispersion and lack of unity in the georgian opposition , mr. volodymyr, tell me, please , share the atmosphere of these protests, which took place on march 7 and 8. only people who support the opposition went there. is this law more correct than its adoption in the first reading, after all, it united georgians and they
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did not want this law, definitely the authorities in quotation marks succeeded. it is impossible. why did they disturb part of it? according to estimates of about 50%, which is in the black-white dichotomy of georgia, which is internal political, which is divided misha antimisha, i can say in plain language whether or not these cartuli are from the sky, the georgian dream against the mishists, yes, these people lived according to the principle of plague on both of your houses, yes, this is plast they were able to stir up another moment, the students came out, the youth came out, do you understand whether you can associate them with mixed or not mixed , this is despite the fact that the shame of the whole of georgia without a relatively political color, the state in which saakashvili is now in the factory , it is impossible to tie them to the youth with the same political technology because they were either not born then or went to kindergarten in 2003 2006, this was the main driver in my
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