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[000:00:00;00] of the ukrainian cultural community, so i think that the president will not go anywhere, he will sign when probably already in may , but they will sign, thank you, thank you, oleksiy, sir, a translator, a public figure, was in touch with us, analyzed the situation of the shevchenko prize and other topics , in particular, the renaming of russia to muscovy, we thank you for staying with us . the tv channel is a familiar host, this means that on the air of the espresso tv channel, the program world during the war, during it, i and my guests discuss the most important things that happened in the world , obviously often with reference to ukraine, what happened in the past week and we try to look into
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the week ahead in order to see what is possible and what we should expect about it, and i will talk about it today too, but before introducing my guests and announcing the topics, i want to remind you, as i always do at the beginning of the program, that you can watch us on the air where at least we haven't been excluded on cable networks and also on youtube on youtube you can watch us on two channels, the general espresso channel and also a special one created for the world during the war well, here's the one who watches us on youtube, please don't forget to put your likes if you like the program, and i really hope that you will like it, and don't like if you don't like it, although i don't believe that you won't like the program. but most importantly, write something in the comments, it's very important for us, we need to know your opinion in order to focus on it during the creation of subsequent programs
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. well, it is also important to include likes and dislikes in order to promote the channel of the world during the war in the complex youtube algorithm in order to be watched by as many people as possible. well, today is no exception as and for the past few months we have been asking you a question on youtube today's question sounds like this now now now is russia behind the protests in georgia and moldova as we know there in georgia things are already slowing down in moldova it seems like it is just starting behind this is the government of the aggressor country, the leadership in the kremlin, the answers are as usual standard three yes no your option i thank the 48 people who have already managed to vote and already 49 and even 86%
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believe that this is worth it i will tell you honestly i also do i believe and 8% think no, 6% have their own option, but here is your option , we will find out your option only when the program is broadcast, although you can also watch this option in a live broadcast on the youtube page. intermediate voting results at the end, of course final well, i am ready to introduce my first guest and my first topic about china. today i will talk with vita holod , the head of the board of the ukrainian association of chinese studies , ms. vito. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. congratulations to the heroes . glory to ms. vita. in the world with an attachment to china, we see some , at least it seems to me, we see some games from the leadership of the heavenly, so
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china is playing, testing the nerves of all other players, but how far is the leadership of the heavenly can enter. well, obviously, i mean relations with russia first of all, and taking into account the fact that xi jinping was elected as the leader of the celestial empire for the third term , that is, will he continue playing with the world ? he is annoyed by the fact that he interferes in the internal affairs of china, because he considers himself to be inside the world and generally heavenly, and it is translated as the country that is inside, that is, what is happening now in china, and the third term is foam, everyone is behind it
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are following very important domestic political events in china now called two sessions, the first session has ended and the third term of xi jinping is a new historical reality, whether someone likes it or not, but this must be reckoned with and relations must be reset and now vsiki has the highest status of the nation's leader on a par with mao zedong at the same level as deng xiaopino, and during this first session, not only his candidacy as the leader of the nation was approved , a new prime minister was also appointed , the new composition of the government was approved, 26 were named there are some interesting appointments of heads of ministries, if you are interested, i can comment a little, for example, on the identity of the new minister of defense lischanskyi, i wanted to ask you about him, but if you have already started , please continue yes yes and since the 18th year, he has generally been under us sanctions and specifically the purchase of anti-aircraft complexes and fighters in russia, which means he has close ties with the russian defense industry, it is unclear how he
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will build a dialogue with his american colleague austin in the future, but it is known that he is a general who has expertise, that is, he an expert on the air force previously managed the sechan cosmodrome and managed the launch of a satellite within the framework of lunar research , that is, he is such an authoritative manager, it is worth commenting on the new appointment of prime minister lin , many people wondered who will actually be sidimpin's right hand and this appointment was somewhat unexpected because in the past the license he headed was the mayor of shanghai and he was responsible for that two-month lockdown that everyone remembers and nevertheless he became the prime minister
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, that is, the premier of the state council of china, replacing replacing a likatian, and here it is a bit strange, because the chinese model is a political retocracy, a gradual ascent to a higher position, and so the likatian made an exception for him. he never headed the government and was not even the vice-prime minister, and today he is in such a new status he certainly has a lot of experience as such a leader. miss cities and provinces believe that he is behind the arrival of tesla to the tesla factory in shanghai. he will be responsible for the economic challenges that are currently facing the country, for foreign economic relations, for the restoration of the economy and above all for the return of investments. it is known that last year they fell to a minimum in the last 18 years, which was also interesting during the first session, i.e. the following set plan of socio-economic development was established, i.e. gdp growth by 5%, an increase
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in the defense budget by 7 .2% creation of 12 million new jobs, places in cities, increase in grain production, etc., and possibly the last such interesting message that there will be significant changes in the regulation of the technological and financial sectors, that is, an increased focus on their competitiveness, because china is seriously preparing for competition, capture mrs. vito. and let's go back to the minister of defense, say two words, maybe not two, maybe more words, the answer to my question is the following. and please tell me, his appointment can be considered a certain test of the world as the world will he react, or was it just that a specialist was appointed to a position in which he would best perform his duties, we can only guess what exactly were the intentions of shijinpin, why exactly did he
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appoint this person. it seems to me that as we said, the defense capability of the country is increasing, and perhaps he is the best candidate who was suitable for this position in this difficult time, i think it is clear, and going back to what you said comparing the current leader of the heavenly xi jinping with mao zedong , please tell me, or not, of course we we can only guess, but from everything we read, we can see, and especially you, who is professionally engaged in all this. please tell me if he has no desire, i mean xi jinping, even to jump over maudzidun and to go down in history as not just the leader of the heavenly realm, but the supreme leader of the heavenly realm. i don't know. he has such ambitions. yes, and of course we see that now this dumpin has a lot of self-confidence because he has full power
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. he has a reliable rear for at least the next 5 years and with it seems to me that it will be more difficult to negotiate with putin himself, well, now he is at a completely different level and it is worth following it, and it seems to me that he really has the ambition to remain in history as the strongest and most successful helmsman of the country, so that this supreme leader, i don't know, the most successful leader, so that he somehow at least manages his country wisely so that it does not lead to any disasters . look what i read this morning. 760 million billion . i apologize for the dollars. please tell me such a statement against the background of such very difficult relations. with
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the united states of america, which is now especially through taiwan, such a statement is being made it is a message to washington that we are big trading partners , let's not quarrel. and we are ready not to quarrel or not . i personally have not yet analyzed the press conference if it took place. it should be today. i didn't have time to check, but i paid attention in slightly different words , xi jinping spoke at the annual meeting of people's representatives and for the first time used such critical rhetoric in relation to the united states , saying that china is being comprehensively restrained by its entourage and suppressed, that is, such we did not hear rhetoric before, the rhetoric of chinese leaders and diplomats, it was more so, more so soft, now the narratives are changing and it is obvious that china is preparing for this confrontation of the century, and this very rapprochement that we have been discussing on the air
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in recent weeks with russia has been called by china a global strategic balance, i.e. china is building such a pole of influence, i want to lead it and it needs countries like russia and so on, that is, if we look at us-chinese relations in general, we analyze first of all the documents and there is such the document came out last year in america called the national security strategy of the biden harris administration. china is not named in this strategy as a threat, it is named as a competitor, but it is written that china can influence the global order because it has economic, technological, military and other resources for this, and this is really not likes the united states of america very much and despite the same ideological bias as they say everything is equal in this strategy it will be noted that
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the relations between the people of america and the people china should remain friendly, but in general we can see from the press and from statements that there are already such xenophobic attitudes in american society that it really cannot be happy . the participation of chinese scientists in research. and in general , that is, what will this confrontation be in the future, by the way , the report of tsinghua university for the 23rd year was very interesting. sino -american strategic rivalry, and then, as a result, tensions are already rising in the taiwan strait. that's clear. and the last question for you
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today, mrs. vito. please tell me. today we talked about sino-russian relations , sino-american relations in chinese , any relations but agree very often not often lately we hear about chinese - ukrainian relations and for us it is important it is worth rebooting, starting from scratch, because for the past nine years, not much has been done in this direction, and our war is very inconvenient for them, as they say, they don't even call it a war, they say a conflict , a crisis, what affects the supply chains , hinders the development of their belt and road initiative for example, belarus is an active participant in this initiative and they announced this peace plan , so-called yes, a position to actually be under pressure , yes, to express some kind of position, their
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participation was very small during this invasion. it was a small humanitarian help at the beginning of the invasion of 1.5 million through the channels of the red cross, then recently they made a contribution to the ministry of defense for the technical maintenance of nuclear facilities in ukraine, they are not watching this at all, they are commenting one-sidedly on this war . i can predict that maybe they will be a little active in our grand from ukraine program, because in this plan they have expressed, let's say, support for the export of food products from ukraine, that is, they said this even after guterres' visit to kyiv there will probably be some next steps, we are also watching this, but in general, what i see is that dialogues of communication will continue at
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international platforms within the framework of the united nations, within the framework of the magathe of other international institutions, so far there is no direct dialogue between diplomats between the heads of state, and this is a pity, ms. vito . thank you very much for participation in my program today thank you for expertly explaining our relations with china and also explaining what is happening around the celestial empire and its relations with other countries. this was vita holod, chairman of the board of the ukrainian association of chinese studies, before introducing our next guest, let's briefly say that 145 people answered the question i asked on youtube: is russia behind the protests in georgia and moldova? 85% think so, 12% no, and 3% have their own option. join join the vote as well. watch us on youtube or on the air now, by the way , only 88 people watch our program on the main channel , please call your friends, let
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them watch, it will be informative. well, what about me? i am ready to introduce my next guest in order to talk with her about the protests in georgia . this is margarita akhvlediani , the editor-in-chief of jam news. hello, margarita. in english, i'm afraid that in russian we don't have an interpreter, i can speak in english, but we don't have a synchronous carrier to translate for you margarita tell me, please, is it possible to read the review of the law on foreign agents in the victory of georgia and the georgian people, or something else will happen. i am asking why because i read on the internet that the leaders of the opposition already stated a few days ago that this should not be the end and that they will have them. there are many, many more demands
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of the georgian people . the authorities, that is, it can be further, well, your first question is that it is the victory of the georgian people, i would say first of all that it is the victory of the georgian people, not the opposition, because the protests that were organized in connection with the idea of ​​accepting this the monstrous law on foreign agents was defeated by at least 100,000 people and it was not the merit of the opposition, the opposition was that they were participants in the protests, but the protests were not organized and they were self-organized , so this is a people's victory, but let's say that we won everything and go home and отдыхать i can't in any case cancel the law, no application made by the government . here is an example of an interview yesterday , a huge interview in which the prime minister of a pro-government
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tv channel says that this is one a small step on the road that we have to go through, and it is a little frightening, on the one hand, there is a large-scale information attack , i would say from russia, who are pushing a wave that has nothing to do with the real situation today in georgia. georgians are getting ready for the start of the war in abkhazia, and in abkhazia they are so frightened by this situation that they are putting the army on martial law and making a statement to political scientists , warning georgia that nothing will happen.
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in georgia itself, no one is going anywhere and we are not talking about any kind of war . we need a war with our own government in the figurative sense of a war. on the road on which we have been standing until now and we are not what else is there now here and provocation from russia is responding to it today because the georgian government has left all of us with garibashila's interview and how are we now we can see from the statements of western politicians simply with an open mind. tom hryboshvili, the prime minister of georgia, stated that the west is forcefully pushing georgia to war. those 100,000 who were on the street and even more who followed it and supported it by staying on social networks humiliates everyone with these statements that the rallies were paid for or
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there were satanists or something else completely abnormal statements and statements have already been made today by the european parliament, and statements made by western politicians who are outraged and require some kind of comments and explanations. at least the sources will name such wild statements , such as the fact that 100 members of the european parliament are corrupt against the background of this situation, and the authorities are confident that the law was very good and simply they care very much about the people and the opposition wanted blood and the killing of young people, but they did not allow this and therefore they revoked the law, that is, they submit the version of events is exactly like that and this unfortunately, it says that we still have more to come, that's all that now i see on the screen next to you is that you are showing this horror that we experienced and nothing left behind, i'm afraid that we are at the beginning of the path
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and it's very bad tell me please here you have already said the words of prime minister halyboshvili. about satanists, this is very reminiscent of what they say in russia about ukraine , satanists are fighting in ukraine, nazis are fighting, and so on and so on. this is what is happening now in georgia. this russian trace is very obvious. or it is not very obvious. you know now that our events are developing so quickly. if you had asked me this question a month ago , perhaps i would have said that, in my opinion , the path is obvious, but it is difficult for me to present arguments. who absolutely agree with you about satanists and about nazis about fascists about terrorists because he has already called the two leading political parties opposition terrorist organizations, including that this is literally a quote from the law that
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the bill that they proposed is a copy of the russian law and the statement that this is supposedly a model of the american law is also a copy of what was said in russia, that is, even the statement that they were such a feeling as if they learned it by heart and followed putin or something by other russian politicians just many years ago. when russia adopted this law today, you can’t doubt that the government is in some way and it’s not clear why it sings from the kremlin’s voice and that the scarier thing is that we actually know today, a statement was made by the european parliament and it was said that we do not understand why georgia supports and goes together with the sinking and dying terrorist country russia , when she was standing on the way to europe and she has so many friends who lead her on this way why, that is, why we have this question too, and i myself. that's how a journalist can
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answer. what worries the government and the ruling party most of all is the appearance of the government and the ruling party. the population is not something else and will remain in power - this means it will strangle the free media , it will strangle non-governmental organizations, who will support georgia on this path , who but russia, and apparently that is why this strange, wild, abnormal tandem that threatens the lives of this particular one of our children margarita and tell me, please, the leadership a few days ago, georgia accused the leadership of ukraine of supporting protesters in tbilisi. how do you think this might affect the relationship between georgia and ukraine?
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i am asking now not from the point of view . how can this be explained in georgia? how can it be explained in georgia ? georgia and is trying to return georgia to the war, he said it in direct text , he named klitschko in particular, he named other ukrainian politicians in particular, and called them insane, and it is not known who is crazy, that is, he used words that are completely impossible. so far there has been no such thing, he really stopped and continued to talk about the fact that ukraine is at war and i will not say anything more , i wish that the war would end and peace would come, this was the formulation. it should still happen, that is, how can relations between ukraine and georgia still deteriorate , unless there is a recall of some
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ambassadors, or there is an interruption of diplomatic relations or not? government because at the rallies we sang our national anthem and we sang the ukrainian national anthem and at the rallies there were no less ukrainian flags than georgian and european union flags . everywhere we have inscriptions and flags in support of ukraine, we are with you, the absolute majority of society here, too, there is complete disagreement with the government, and i think that the strength of georgian society is that georgian society is strong enough that allow the authorities to take some decisive steps towards russia against ukraine and really open up georgia
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, this gives hope. even before the victory, i thought at these protests that we were strong enough not to allow them to take away our future, but now i also think that this perhaps you just know what scares you, what is the population of ukraine , what are the sizes of ukraine, what is georgia's size, georgia is less than 4 million and there are three russian bases around us, one of them is so close that you can get there by car for no i know for half an hour that it is 30 km, that is, it is a tiny little country with a corresponding army, which, no matter how big or strong it is, even if it is the strongest in the world, it is too small next to russia , and this inspires great fear, great fear. made a statement with threats to georgia and no comment from the authorities, so where are we against the soldiers with
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bare hands against our government, we fought against the grenade launchers and gaza but if there is an invasion, what will happen when the own government does such applications georgia is in a very dangerous situation margarita and we are his last question for today to you but tell me please, but the leadership of each country in the world makes some kind of prediction before adopting this or that law in the case of the law we are talking about there was probably also forecasting in the georgian government, and they probably knew that if this law were adopted, it could cause mass protests. why was it accepted so well then? i don't know not only independent lawyers from independent organizations, but today , for example, even a lawyer who works
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for our shadow oligarch, who is considered the shadow ruler of georgia, who is considered the shadow ruler of georgia, made a statement on this issue, who said that why was it necessary to adopt a law when you did not work and in which you did not have answers for the public to the questions , why did you do it so much? i don't know 50 people gathered there and each of them talks only to each other and they convince each other and begin to believe that they are society and that society thinks like them and then they do actions and suddenly it turns out. they discovered it only after we went out into the street .
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ответы на мои вопросы this was margarita ah vladiani, the editor-in-chief of jam news, and we obviously talked with her about what was happening , what is happening in georgia. i mean the protests that started against the adoption of the law on foreign agents and which may continue to continue due to other reasons it was a very interesting conversation. well, as always, i want to remind you that on youtube , we asked you a question on a channel that was specially created for the world during the war . this time it is: is russia behind protests in georgia and moldova, 235 people voted, for which i am very grateful to you, thank you, 84% believe that this is the case, 12% think that it is not, and 3% have their own version, but you can read your version already. more likely, not their version, but their version of those people who yes you voted, you will be able to read after i the program goes on the air, and now we are watched by

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