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call greetings friends glory to ukraine my name is vasyl zima this is a world view on the tv channel espresso and today we will quarrel with russians and make scandals, talk loudly, choose different epithets, hypocritical because what is happening must be commented in some way. well, of course, we will mock the russians because the ukrainian government wants to rename russia to moscow . let's talk with him, what would be the best name for russia, let's choose mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you . good day, i'm glad to see and hear from us, actually , there are three topics, well, this oscar is for the bulk or for khristogrozeva is evgenia albats in ukraine, a russian propagandist who acts as a good hand, how did she get to ukraine with a russian passport , why did she decide to do it here at all, and is this the first display of amphibious landings, or are other

amphibious ships on the way and what are their people? they will shake us out of our territory well , and the third topic that we will also discuss, i will remember that we also wanted to discuss, well, the actual renaming of russia to moscow or to some other country oleksiy, let's probably start with evgenia albats in her time when marina ovsyannikova came with a poster behind the presenter of the first channel, i already forgot her name, well, you know, she is a russian presenter, she is again , well, such a premiere, wearing the costume of a good russian, left russia after she was searched there by the fsb and they tried to come to ukraine to her. there were some lectures, co-working spaces, pushkin readings , other things were planned, a wave of negativity was raised by the public, and maryna ovsyannikova was unable to give her lectures here, there were no meetings, she left here and now lives in russia. well, by the way, it is strange that such an opposition activist to the russian government, but for some reason she is not behind

bars, but lives there quietly, and this yevgenia albats comes and visits khmelnytskyi, visits vinnytsia, and then goes to odesa so that you understand what kind of person she is. because you know many people changed his color now and they say that he is somewhere for ukraine or he is not for ukraine but against putin or he simply does not mention putin and we think that they mean that now for us we always want everyone to be for us although this is not true but i will remind what is she this woman spoke a little earlier, when the great invasion had already begun, but it was not yet on such a possibly huge scale as it is now . let's listen to what evgenia albats zakhar prilepin said in his telegram channel. he wrote a quote in his telegram channel. there are no first-aid kits. you are holding a billion-dollar holiday in connection with this celebration of moscow

until 100 with you. but not during such a terrible failure. zakharov can’t not agree, such incredible money in the defense industry in the army all the last years. how can it happen that the army does not have everything necessary , including, first of all, the defense and why some stole and the second? with navalny yashin karamurzoe and all the rest, but at the same time they managed not to notice how they stole what was supposed to go to the equipment of the russian army well, that's exactly what yevgenia albas is, it's already a war, mr. oleksii well, first of all, maybe a few words about this person. can you tell me, and secondly, why do such people come to ukraine with a russian passport , cross the border and move freely

through the territory of ukraine, please, yevgeny rybats is a fairly well-known person, does anyone follow the events in russia or around russia or given the russian order, it is obvious that he knows this surname, she is considered one of the so-called russian liberals of russian liberal journalists, but we understand the obvious in those narratives that exist in russian society in a broad sense of course, they don't share some of the things that the official propaganda says or putin's supporters profess, but within the broader russian discourse there is a certain consensus, and this consensus

traditionally consists in the fact that russia and russians have some kind of superior rights. that is, all people are equal, but they are more equal for others, in particular, it is the right to teach others to carry the light of pushkin's words or civilization to the peoples subordinate to russia, well, that is, well , this is the whole syndrome that we know and the burden of the white man in translated from kipling into the russian language and it is obvious that they live in this and feel quite comfortable, they believe that they can educate everyone around them. and at the same time, they remain russian patriots in their understanding of this word, and russian patriots are, you know, the principle that this is my country, it is possible and not right, but this is my country and that is why we

are worried about our boys, as they say , we blame why corruption prevents our army from being strong, well, this whole syndrome that you have seen, well, not so much in the public space on the example of albas, although it also applies to her, but do you remember the case, as it is customary to say, or the story about the rain, when the host allowed himself to tell something similar on the air of the channel, and then all those good russians wondered what it was. well, the latvians were offended by this that is, these are different editions of the same model, these people, well, you know me, i always treat representatives of all nations with respect. but to be honest, now i catch myself because even when i watch some recordings

of old matches on youtube, there is the national team of ukraine or dynamo kyiv well, that was when it was still a good game, well. sometimes it is. sometimes i want to watch it again when i hear russian commentary, and very often youtube videos for some reason are shown with russian commentary. let's say the match between ukraine and france, which ukraine won 2:0 once before the maidan there in was it in 2013, or in the 14th year, well, in a word, in the 13th year, or even in the 12th year? well, then, in the 13th year, there was a russian comment and i turned it off. that is , it is already subconsciously, somewhere it disgusts me. i always respect any language, but now it causes rejection and that's why when such people come, well, it also causes rejection and such pain is fair, obviously you know this a lot , and people i know have told me that their jewish parents could not hear

german all their lives. surface and this is completely natural, so again , we do not turn off the sound for others. whoever wants to hear the russian language can hear it, so to speak , we will not be able to limit it to them, but for ourselves we turn it off from the other side. smeared with honey, you know wanted, maybe on the one hand, uh, you can think about the scene of the crime to which the criminals are drawn, at least this is the legend , on the other hand, we understand that it is for these so -called liberal russians, are they good russians, by the way, this term also appeared under the influence, obviously, of good james, after the second world war, it is obvious for them that this is a psychological compensation. they are trying to get some

kind of indulgence either for themselves or for those around them, for example, during the war, we did not support putin, we did not support putin verbally at least let's leave the aggression in parentheses, thinking about our boys and even being in ukraine , and that's it for them later. obviously, they perceive that later . it seems that this is the main main main motive for the arrival of these people. they want to prove that you know how we often talk about the fact that, fighting against propaganda, we say that this is not putin's war. how is this putin evil, russia's war

against ukraine? that's how they want to prove that not all ukrainians are the same, you know, there are ukrainians who are opposed to russia, and there are people who are ready to accept good movements rather, it is a psychological problem for them, but for us it is a problem . well, i would call it a problem of hygiene, you know. i had dinner, well, we invaded, well, we didn't invade, well, we raped someone, it doesn't even happen. look at this narrative even in these russian or sub-russian series that were produced in ukraine for quite a long time, even when the ending of the plot is when a girl is raped but then they marry her and that supposedly solves some problems, you know, you know it like in and here you have a brodsky, also a good russian, in general, a jew, so to speak, this is also the person who still found anna akhmatova, they

akhmetova akhmatova and in general, all this silver of vekvor poetry then he got up and went abroad and received the nobel prize. although , by the way, i don't like his poetry, but he was a contradictory person in general, and he is from a series of good russian liberals, he was given the nobel prize. this recognition, by the way, about this i have to to remind just about the words of akhmatova probrotka biography is being made for us, this is roughly how it is, people who come here or there tell something in europe and america, they are making a biography for themselves, you understand. the question is again, no one, no one, no one can forbid it to be done, but why at our expense to things anna gurenko ukrainian i studied at school 117 in kyiv and there are still signs on zankovetska street, i was there recently before the great war and there was a sign saying that anna gurenko lived in this building anna

akhmatova well, then she got married, and as her husband already said, he took a wife from the city of zmiyeva, that is, from kyiv, but in brodsk there were also words in his poem about the independence of ukraine. i will not read the whole poem, but there are such words from by god, the eagles of the cossacks, the hetman, only when he comes, and they will die for you, will you wheeze, scratch the edge of the mattress, lines from alexander ani , the lies of taras, well, it is meant that alexander pushkin, but for some reason, this is how ukrainians die with the words glory to ukraine , as experience shows, as ani's example shows from in alexander's poems , they say glory to ukraine, as taras hryhorovych shevchenko said . and you should love your ukraine and love it in a fierce time . while she is in odessa, her beloved odessa is less than 100 km from the front. yesterday evening, the city was buzzing, and the dyuk was closed with shields. and on

the approaches to the embankment, the opposite is true. they still perceive that this is their odessa, their sevastopol, their berdyansk, their melitopol, and kherson from kiev they went here, they rested here, they went for a walk because, well, where would they go in russia, but st. petersburg is cold and damp in winter, it’s impossible there at all. i was there twice, well, it’s impossible , well, it’s beautiful in st. petersburg in the spring. yes, but in sochi, sochi is expensive, and here you can do it with hryvnias to give vot to the hetmans and vertukhas and cossacks as they write and therefore they are perceived as one's own but well, let them come and teach - it's worse, and here, by the way, there is one very short question, but it is important, in your opinion, this happened without the knowledge of the authorities or if with the knowledge so why is a person with a russian passport who worked for russian propaganda? well, to be honest, because after her words about stomachkas , our defenseless people are killing ukrainians, well, this is not

normal. certain people or how. i think that it is definitely an agreement. because you know, we still hope that our borders are controlled by state structures , but on the other hand, the people in the current government are quite loyal to the good russians we remember these investments addressed to other ukrainians about the fact that they are not . we do not understand that it is they who are doing important work. well , do you remember these stories of representatives, in particular, and then representatives of the president's office, so i think that this is a continuation of the continuation of this , well, they did not raise it at the time the noise was missed . the question is that, in fact, we have to raise the industry.

very briefly, another person sees himself in the future for some reason in ukraine, but now his prisoners and mercenaries, which by the way, it is necessary here because when we say pvk wagner, we always say prisoners and well, there are actually a lot of good military professionals, and it’s just that there are fewer of them, but this is quite an effective force, as we can see now, who is fighting now , well, he was fighting for the soldier , now he is fighting for bakhmut. i would pay attention to her i took into account this statement of prigozhina, let's listen to it. i made a decision in 24th of the year to become the president of ukraine and i will compete for this post with poroshenko and zelensky, then everything will be

fine, guys. by the way, i think that this video is recorded in ukrainian for a russian audience i will explain why. because zelensky, well, that is, a recorded video, an explosion, real explosions of shells, there are shots of mines falling and he is standing , well, that is, he is such a brave dude. forgive me with the eggs, well, it won’t work in ukraine because zelenskyy was also in trouble when there hostilities took place poroshenko, in principle, is constantly traveling poroshenko is a person who also came to his war because of that well, actually , it will not take ukrainians ukrainians today thousands of dead heroes are alive and real because of that but here is a handsome man in contrast to putin who sits in a bunker and this one sits in a shack it works but is it worth it in your opinion, should such statements not be taken into account or should we still listen here and understand that this is also such a dangerous trend that they see their future already here in ukraine, maybe this is some kind of hint that they see it in the future

just saw that on the example of others, so to speak, representatives of russian society, this is just a continuation of the line that they do not perceive russia , they do not perceive ukraine as something that really exists, an independent state separately. of our warsaw, as they said then, something is not working and it has already been forgotten, it is obvious that this will happen with kyiv and odessa with sevastopol and donetsk after their liberation, but again, this is a continuation of this, i do not think that it is addressed prigozhin is completely dependent on putin for putin and it is unlikely that he will ever dare to challenge him. this is aimed at the russian audience, those who do not like the fact that russia is losing this war and they are looking for some

alternative to those fancy military men, as they say about their own generals that's why i think that it's an internal struggle for attention for the audience, his resentment that he was pushed aside. well, i don't think that it's anything more than uh, tiktok performed by kadyrov, although he's not something lately very active in this regard. by the way, russia was in principle famous for that even under the tsars . it was, well, you know this story better when the voivode was punished, but even if you tell the recent story. let's say, he died in an operating bed under unexplained circumstances, so the first story is shchors , a ukrainian who fought for the bolsheviks , was shot in the back of the head by a kotov

bandit, yes, a bandit, a smuggler, that's all , but still, military leaders who also won important battles, in particular, in the second winter campaign, against which group he was there, this battle under the small mines, he was there, but then there was a shooting near the bazaar, but these were the chiefs , who were also all destroyed, and chapaev is the same , it is also unknown who destroyed him, they are so beautiful, that is, they are always destroyed, and the government remains in the kremlin, that's why it's beautiful here, kadyrov is already not feeling very well there, there are big questions . we can see that he reads in capital letters, so obviously he is not very well with his health, but besides that, it makes the fight against poisons very difficult for us . we only have important topics now . you are a historian. i am always very

interested in listening to you . and by the way, mr. oleksiy, it is always interesting to read his books . i want us to talk a little about this initiative of ukraine to rename russia. the federation said something there that it was nonsense, and in the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine , in my opinion, it was sour, the representative of ukraine prion said that study the best stories, the ukrainian language and the history of ukraine in general, and the name russia was invented. ukrainians well, now we are paying for it, that’s how the representative is too. this is the school of ancient ukrainian literature. i want to ask you how legal it is to rename russia, because let’s say look, ukraine says hungary, the english say hungry. someone else might say it differently, i don't know how the hungarians call their hungary

. by the way, they call it the same as modeursakh, i.e. the land of the magyars. it has nothing to do with hungary, just like we say finland. they say suomi, yes, that is, the names are different, it doesn’t change anything, almost every neighbor calls it the same in their own way, none of them call it deutschland, like the germans themselves, so in principle, in principle , there is no problem with this, actually the finns have estonians have their own name for russia, latvians have their own, lithuanians have their own, which, that is, they have etymology there, they are related to russia, but so to speak, well, that is, for example, for the baltics, it is a modified name of the blood centuries, so to speak , do you remember such a tribe, i don’t know anything the crown does not fall from anyone's head. the question is that this is every nation, every state is defined by this. this is its sovereign right

. on the other hand, we remember how we experienced and some still experience, as the russians call it, in ukraine or there or on ukraine, that is, we are worried about it for some reason from my point of view, this is a post-colonial syndrome , for example, the indians there are very worried about being called bombay. and this is the english colonial name mumbai, and it’s not a mattress, but again, in principle . the less we have in common with russia , the less we are. it will be interesting, and on the other hand, it is not for the russians to point out to us, for example , in them with the same in and on earlier they called that they had an embassy in ukraine, then when putin came to power it began to be called

the embassy in ukraine, and now it is actually it just doesn’t work and it doesn’t matter at all. and of course, not sugar and not medvedeva , another supporter of powerful substances, who also started inventing some kind of alternative name for ukraine. with regard to ukraine , therefore, again, we do not need to pay attention to it . if you respect, what name would be better for ukraine to apply to russia now, muscovy, perhaps there is another such name, analogous to the story of which we do not know, but you, as a professional historian, it is possible. well, actually, russia has always had one name

or another. in fact, it was not the russians themselves who called muscovy, but the neighbors, in particular , for example, poles and lithuanians . there is nothing so strange about this, of course, that they appropriated the name russia, again, i would not exaggerate the importance of this, well, for example, romania has the same name as the roman empire, well, this does not mean that it can claim, with all due respect to romania, the entire heritage of the roman empire, the same with russia, of course, they always wanted to annex the neighboring lands, and this very claim that they are the heirs of ancient russia gave them, well, at least a day off