[000:00:00;00] probably he will resume the conversation about it or take some action. well, it will cost them a-a serious consequences , because this georgian society is not such a thing against fighters , it is quite serious. thank you , mr. mom. your homeland will not wait for you in order to arrest us . well, because if you see, it's very wintery, just now you see a map of ukraine. if you are in ukraine, if you have an application installed on your phone about the air alert, then you know that there is an air alert in ukraine. and when there is an air alert, we always go to the shelter

well, we have a backup studio over there in ukraine. well, of course, shelter is not a comfortable, warm environment. it's a little cool here, but we're alive. people are alive. people know. besides , we have to work here, so don't think about how to keep warm. well, excuse me we are here in hats and in fur coats, but we work in spite of all these troubles . let's just say that the russians are okay with us. well, you too . we urge you not to neglect safety and your health and also to be covered. we teach our guests at pavlo lakischuk, head of security programs of the center for global studies, strategy 21, we welcome you, mr. pavlo, keep in touch , let's keep it up, glory to ukraine well, let's look at yesterday's incident with an american reconnaissance reconnaissance drone, which was actually shot down by a russian su-27 by two

planes, by two pilots, they kind of we watered it with our fuel, we did it by dumping the fuel, later we cut its screws with its own hull, i understand, and it just fell into the black sea, and sergey and i talked with lead about the fact that the americans tried to save it, this drone was already on the surface of the water, but it seemed that it was captured by the russians, well, the russians intelligence by the russian naval forces, what do you think about this incident, what will be its consequences, please know, in 1982, the organization of the volume of the international community adopted the convention on the safety of maritime navigation which contained a number of provisions there, including the right of peace. in 1986, the americans decided to protest the article of the convention on the right of peaceful passage near the coast of crimea

, which resulted in an incident when soviet ships simply attacked the two american ships that were passing to the coast of crimea and killed them well, you imagine there are many thousands of tons of weight, it’s not a mercedes, a bmw , they collided. and this hocus-pocus, the russian experience , the russians call such a mass of bagdashins in honor of the commander of the ship, well, who commanded a group of these ships and consider such a model to be emulated by such and such attempts such actions in peacetime by russia obviously provocative, they have become such a calling card of the armed forces of the russian federation

it is good that the american spy was a russian just as well something to carry out provocative actions and to the pilots they and well, another example of the inadequacy of the russian military, it is necessary to understand not just the inadequacy of the russian military and the russian federation as a state and as uh in the black market what happened in such incidents were and still are. let it be that in the conditions of such an acute conflict, russia, the ukrainian-russian war in the baltics, in the atlantic on the black sea of ​​ukraine, the russians made similar attempts, and before , they more often remained at the level of such obvious demonstrations of various actions, much

less often they had such obvious the consequences of the russian pilots in this case acted as quite correctly notes the american state department dangerously provocative and created a dangerous president will stop this will stop the conduct of reconnaissance flights in the usa on the black color no will it have this is some kind of effect for the russian federation, because they are here to demonstrate the political effect, we are the hosts here. well, hardly always . and here is the thing that the ambassador of russia is now called to the us department because of this, or something. what will they say to him there and how can the russians react to it? the meeting

took place for half an hour. there he made excuses and said that we were innocent , we did not fire any shots in the direction of this firewood of yours , he fell by himself well, here is such an explanation from, but they say that he was there for a long time, he made excuses, please ask the ambassador work should be taken into account, and not just he just justified it, he justifies that in russia and we didn’t dump any fuel there, but it can’t be, but no, well, if we didn’t blame it, we didn’t blame that drone for me, so who can’t have that there is er data of metrics. and if there are data metrics, then they were clinging to it, but by accident . well, you know, with those russian smirks when it is clear that a person is lying er to your eyes, the actual purpose of calling the representative offices is

er to put on display and warn russia about the provision of e-e situation is the russian goal demonstrate, make a fool of the face, you know what they say, we don't have it there, but we will defeat you. well, if the russians bought this q&q 9iper, what secrets can they get from it from the inside of this downed device, because the americans earlier, when a part of the american military establishment there offered ukraine to provide these reapers the other part said that they are afraid that they will fall into the hands of the russians and that the russians will learn military secrets, perhaps this situation will accelerate the provision of these

unmanned aerial vehicles to us after they are already in the hands of the russians , first of all, there is no unmanned aerial vehicle 7 itself, this is the cure, as the americans say, the message of the aerial vehicle from the conflict zone, bring it down, and then its liquidation, in this case, most likely, the russians were able to raise the debris from the sea , which is the most, the most the secret thing that might interest the russians the most is that it is the rippers , they are very perfect drones , first of all, as for its control system, closed

communication channels are used for this, well, it is much better than drones for example, our and turkish famous bairaktars are an order of magnitude more, they write, and of course one is three or four orders of magnitude more advanced than the russian iranian ones, all these things are made in kolinka, it is important for the russians to get these technologists, and the control of safe , hidden, closed, protected from interference, control of these devices, then they would like to get it but i think that this is the largest part of the drone and the developers and operators are taking the maximum measures so that it does not

fall into the hands of the enemy. this is the most secret thing. possible deliveries of drones, including strike reconnaissance to ukraine, well, it will not be determined by russian pilots , but by the success of our armed forces, well, in general, information about this ripper for our viewers, that it is not, not, not a small drone, there is no age, the third mq9 ripper is an 11-meter huge the drone weighs almost 2.5 tons and costs, most interestingly, almost 17 million dollars. that is, it is not something small and something like that. well, wedding, i told our minister of defense. this is a huge drone that can carry out reconnaissance activities and be with an attack drone, i.e. directly carry missiles and explosives on one's own p. pavla, what is the general security situation in the black sea water area , what is happening now, what can you tell us now, the installation

is complicated, it is not for nothing that the air alert was announced , despite the black sea storm , a group of russian ships came out, including three missiles on stoyanka, two corvettes and a submarine to the general hall of missiles for yesterday's shooting down of a drone yesterday's attack, and an air attack on our radar stations in the odesa area sometimes russian planes tried to hit our air defense objects within the geolocator, well, all this in a heap may indicate that the enemy is preparing to launch a mass missile, we must be careful, attentive and delay the recommendations on air attacks, that is, the russians well, it is not

decreasing, or they themselves already they make , they simply renew it as they go, so to speak , their continuation of their missile strikes . well, as for the number of the total number of missiles, it is, of course, decreasing . we can see that the russians use and change they tried to use old soviet rockets , taking into account the strengthening of our anti-aircraft defense, those rockets that they already have in scraps, or shkinjalas, he threw them, they shot him at kiev and not only at kiev, it would be possible by energy objects, they are there. well, in general, it is like an experimental rocket , several dozen of them above. therefore, they are throwing all possible forces and means without thinking about what will happen

next. they must cause maximum damage to ukraine here and now, well, petro lakischuk and pavlo i apologize. yes, the head of the security programs of the center for global studies, strategy 21 was with us, mr. pavlo. thank you for including us, and we already have yandobrinosov in contact, well, in fact, our vlach is in the city of kramatorsk, a front-line ukrainian city in donetsk region. i am not happy to see you. congratulations. tell me . please, what is the situation in kramatorsk, please? thank you. i see that from lviv to kramatorsk, we turn on. i was in your studio. well, look, i won't tell you the official information, because it's not for me, but i'll tell you how it was. kramatorsk heard the rocket pass right away. well, i realized that it happened for 3-4 seconds. babakh, so to speak, and here is the house behind me

. i ran here in about 10 minutes. she was attractive, but there are photos on my profile of yan dobrnosy on instagram or facebook, she was pointing at something there , it was clear that she was active, then i heard from the other side of the building how a person on the second floor was shouting, they quickly went up there dsnsniki through their e-e ladder in ukrainian sorry, i'm looking for a word in my head or this entrance was impossible to climb , you see behind me there well, the entrance, that is, they couldn't use it from the other side to the second floor, the person was lowered onto and tied to nosiv and they let her down, she screamed when they had already let her down, she must have lost consciousness, she was no longer there and could be heard, there were still people in the house besides the house, they were not very bloody, it was clear that they were from here, i asked them and interviewed them about this

they were inside they were shocked they didn't understand what he even needs to go to the medics because i was talking. they have such a slow reaction, it is clear that they need to go to the doctor just in case, but they even i remember my grandfather yesterday, it's not that the medics were almost there, he was taken to the last, he can see that he is not well, he you know how i'm afraid of dentists, he somehow reacted like that, well, shock, it can't be certified there, i understand everything. if you want, i'll walk you through a little bit now and show you the tom in a circle. maybe we'll talk to someone like an interview if there are people who agree because you have to understand that not all of us not everyone loves us in these emotions, they react well without any pretensions to them, just to make it clear, look, now, today , they are people, tell me, tell me, how is life in kramatorsk, how often are these shellings, if people stayed in their homes , then they just

got used to the fact that there is flying well, now something has flown uh right now siren is here almost constantly, i see all these telegram channels where how when there all over ukraine when in the regions here it is almost constantly people are getting used to it but they are all it is equally scary. i must say that in these territories, uh, if you understand, there are old people and uh, people , well, if that’s all, in essence, that is, children disappear here, well, they disappear , as if they are taken away, and they are, but in terms of percentage, there are very few elderly people here age and those people are such men who, unfortunately, do not know what to do and they can try to drink here and there, or is there something else and such, if there are still people, there are very few of them who have a clear pro-ukrainian position, which is not enough because there is

an effect in buchi i already talked about that what about the ukrainian position, when the enemy approaches, they leave. well, unfortunately, not all of them are like that, but there are people who simply do not understand psychological parking. they do not understand where to leave, what will happen to them, etc. further and the like, well, ask questions, or if you want to pass by, take a walk. yes, we are interested to see what is happening around. well, and later , anyway, ugh, i’ll tell you a little bit, then now people and utility workers are walking near the house they bear everything. this is already common for them. you see, i don't know. you see a woman here . we put a staircase because there is no more of this one . can i turn you on a little? i turn on the lviv channel. you don't want to tell me, but you weren't in this apartment at the time. no, well, you haven't been for a while yes and now you are asking to take everything you have that is valuable

yes and do you have a place to live now yes okay sorry mom yes yes at least the clouds went away everything is fine yes thank god i'm sorry i have such a job well you see and here it goes in a circle utility workers are walking now such services are more if it were easier, conditionally speaking, i was swarming here yesterday, it was the state emergency service, the police, the military, where did i prepare for the ukrainians, i wanted to tell the military, then the police, it is important , but okay , well , let’s give your question like this. the work of a photojournalist in moscow is close to the front line, on the front line, how different is it, what are the features, what do you need to know a little about that kitchen, you need a photo-korean kitchen, well

, first of all, you need to be ready for everything be prepared that a person will break down just now and we would physically start acting, i'm ready for that, why do i understand them, no, i don't , no, well, i think it should be done there physically, what are the uses, but people on emotions , you can imagine, they don't have an apartment there. i don’t even say whether they are there for the poor or for us, but they have an apartment there, they are collecting some things there that they will no longer need, i have already seen it. well, i won’t tell them that, but all these things are you when we move there from kyiv or something else really showed that everything we bought is not necessary and they are doing about the same thing right now, this is an emotion, they are still walking around their hearth, and in these emotions, some person approaches and says , yes, i need to conditionally join the lviv tv channel espresso, and i am not the only one like that, there are a lot of us here . this calls for rescue because everything is conventionally lost

there. if you can say that, and here some person is just doing his job and also taking action, well, that is, you have to be tactful , cultural, and so on, you definitely have to be careful, but i don't really understand how it is how is it to be careful, well, that is, i don’t know where the rocket went, titans, or where it was, well, they don’t patch mines in kramatorsk , conditionally, uh, this is one, but there will be a window further on, from which yesterday they took out a person who fainted when from the second floor, steps were placed up to the top of the bazaar dsnsniki and they pulled out and returning to the topic. that is, i don’t know how to be careful here. the only thing i do here is that i don’t try to think about it. that is, sirena is here all the time, she does not reflect reality a little because when they write in telegram on local channels, uh, the siren goes off, it turns on something, well, this happens often, but

it seems to me that it is losing its relevance a little here, because it happens all the time, they are around 30 km from here, someone told me today 19 but i was 15 km from the enemy yesterday, well, it makes sense from here and closer to the enemy, and well, it’s not true. this is how i’ll show it. you went around this house from the other side . you can see it even from that side. from the first, many windows were already blocked with usb plates. that is, before the shelling . there were no double-glazed windows or there are a lot of buildings in the city now, and there are many one-story buildings without windows that were damaged by the previous shelling. what percentage of those affected will be able to cope? there is an administrative building nearby. all the houses are everywhere. they are ready for this. look now, you see what the scheme looks like. look at the window, you are just asking a question. i

made myself a camera today. i will show you how a person prepared for this, and look, look , look, on the second floor, there are no windows. you see one brick, we laid it directly from the inside, some of the frame was removed, and that's all . oh dear, the person prepared so much that if you could see , even the brick was not removed, she laid it from the inside with brick and brick. i will tell you honestly, but if you look around the perimeter of the center, uh, on the same radius, there are arrivals everywhere, but if you take the square and take it in a circle, there is an arrival there. it really looks like a circle, that is, no, well, that doesn't mean that all the ladies in the neighborhood should leave because it flies here. it comes everywhere. you either have to leave, and they. well, don't use that kind of logic, because it doesn't exist. i'll also add that i came here last night

was also turned on for one of the tv channels. i saw that in this house directly into which it was hit. there is even a light. they turned it on, i understand later . why, because i can clearly see the light at my age. not like that here it is, as a rule , the house is no longer lived in , it is not fit for habitation, this is how it is formulated, and here there was even light. a familiar story, what if i understood you too, for example, there in lviv and you immediately descend from the basement . here, no one goes anywhere. look , there is a man sneaking out something here and there. uh, the neighboring houses are watching, something happened to it, everyone there knew someone there , and so on. and so on. people are not afraid of it at

all. no one even raises their eyes . they raise their eyes when the rocket flew. well, in conclusion, tell us about the buchi syndrome or the effect. the first time . i just heard you said that you already told me. well, i think that the audience will also be interested because maybe i didn't tell you , maybe no, i don't remember either, because i have an opinion, i'm telling you. at that moment , the photographers and the press and everything worked very well the world saw what is happening there, where it is coming, or the enemy is coming in. and this leads to the fact that, for example, we take bakhmut in the days when they were still there 10 15 km away, and the pro-ukrainian position goes away because when they come in, they rape people, kill children , this is all normal to people it's scary, they leave, so to speak, old people remain, i'm saying that they don't have finances, inability, and psychological limitations

, but they are for ukraine, i know them , well, we should live here, so to speak, in kramatorsk, figure out how we are with you there, geopolitics, what is needed go and that's exactly right, it's difficult from here when you live here, but they are pro-ukrainian , their position is minimal here because, after all, most of them are... i read telegram channels, i don't want to talk about them, but i'm preparing a wide post. that's the typical konstantinivka, typical kramatorsk, there are words. yanska amatorsk 24/7 there are a lot of them, it's very 50/50 what i read in them there are normal, comments come in from people who write there, you don't know who is shooting at you , for example, they write news when there espresso serves that the minister of defense is hostile there with in a small letter there is the russian federation or orcs or something else, they write the minister of defense of the russian federation with a capital letter and what

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