tv [untitled] March 16, 2023 6:30pm-7:01pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] to russia, viktor medvedchuk becomes the head of the kuchma administration of president kuchma viktor medvedchuk becomes the godfather of vladimir putin and dmitry medvedev through his wife later in 2004, yushchenko was poisoned with carbon dioxide , so far no one can say who poisoned him and how, and until the end, presumably with the participation of ukrainian security service workers, who were obviously in parallel with their associates of the fsb, where satsyuk was the first deputy head of the sbu - this is a friend of medvedchuk from business circles, even from banking structures . putin made and in principle overturned the decision of the center of the electoral committee, the supreme court was the third round, then throwing russian money into the ukrainian party, into ukrainian
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politicians, into ukrainian experts, pumping in the interval between the fourth and tenth years , then the victory of yanukovych, then the arrival of people with passports of the russian federation, well, that is all history, a long history, shows that putin has been preparing for this war for a long time, and that is , it is clear that he accepted the period of 2022 or 2021, they were already ready for it as the most favorable in order to attack ukraine by entering troops, you mentioned that in 2019 it changed presidents , but obviously, obviously, the decisive factor in this situation is what you write about. putin's army went out to fight. that's why now i
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have a quite logical question: why are we not in official documents now? shall we say in this valuable rhetoric, we don't use the term people's re-people's war because when there were two maidans. i remember very clearly how quickly the concept was introduced into use. is this the orange maidan or the orange revolution and the revolution of dignity? why don't we say now when we hear the president or high-ranking officials? no, there is no such rhetoric that this is a people's war. it's worse than not having time. unfortunately , we see that sometimes they try to use some soviet mothers, soviet pockets for this war . they are actually invented by this, they are a part of this russian imperialist apparatus. and to believe in some power of information aikido, you know, that we will use it to our advantage , it is wrong, in general, it seems to me that we
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lack some kind of such a whole integrated information policy that would i placed the right emphasis on how to present this war to myself and the world from the positives, what was achieved this year, this is a positive for the first time in ukrainian diplomacy, and obviously president zelenskyi, this is what we showed that this is not just a war between ukraine and russia, that this is a more global war, that it is, after all, a war of the free world against russia, that threatens the free world, that this is one of the greatest gains from the negatives, and yet she really did not outline any important accents of the ukrainian e i am confused by that war, for example. i carefully listen to the president 's speeches, i re-read this first collection , i re-watched the second one, i re-watched his speech from the time of the first full-scale war, and what confuses me is that there is actually no ukrainian context, that is, there is no
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appeals to ukrainian history, there is nothing to say that the president, the current american leadership understands that the current war is part of this hundred years ' war, about which i say that they are the continuation of this war. puts this war in the right place in the historical process, but it just makes us stronger, that is, you show that in the context of this hundred years war , we are really moving forward close, much closer to victory than our predecessors, perhaps it is because, unfortunately, neither president zelensky nor those who are closer, the immediate entourage of president zelensky, the team of president zelensky, they are quite far from history, they are not the people who are interested in history, these are not the people who are called by history, so when you know president zelensky is compared with churchill. and here, too, in many ways , the comparison is incorrect, starting with the fact that the one who has already won the victory is itching, and it is obvious to us that we need to win this
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victory in order to talk about it, and the second - he was an extremely historically engaged politician, that is, he knew history very well, he wrote history, he created history, that is, he is a person who very clearly understood the historical moment precisely because of the perspective of the past, unfortunately, now in the current head of state, most of those people who they represent the leadership of the state, they are far from that, and this makes them a little weaker, despite the fact that, you know, our enemy has a very clear understanding of the historicity of this war, a very clear understanding of the fact that history is also the arena of this war history is a tool of this war. meanwhile, we weaken ourselves in this matter, we cancel mandatory history in the national multiple-choice test. we hear very strange statements from the minister of education that history should not be studied under compulsion, it is best studied at home it's good that we still have a month of defense that doesn't say that it's best to learn to defend your country in the same way at home without any
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coercion, so that's it. if we talk about the weaknesses that appeared during this year of full-scale invasion, it's just one of them, that is, there is not yet an incomplete awareness of the nature of this yanukovych war, absolutely yes, that is why, but i hope that it will actually happen, that's why, that's why i thought it necessary to make this book where and where and place the accents that i consider correct for myself, it's obvious that they can still be discussed, but it is important to have this discussion and i am very glad that as a result of my criticism of this concept, the city is a hero, the minister of defense, mr. reznikov, supported the idea that it is still worth talking about cities heroes, not the city of heroes, why should we still emphasize the people who defended this or that city sometimes at the cost of their lives, and not some abstract settlement on the map of the country? well , i understand what risks there are when the president will call the people's war because it is
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it would be well if he clearly characterized this war and it is clear that he is the front man of this people 's war. i understand that zelensky is the front man of the brave ukrainian people who are now fighting for their independence, but they also need it if they speak or compare with churchill should remember that after the war he lost the fourth election. that is to say, this is also, er, there is a certain element, er, and what are the historical parallels, if they speak, then they should draw historical parallels and understand how it can end, it would be very good if the ukrainians they remembered that even from the point of view of the british, even in spite of the great respect for churchill, who won the war, after the victory of the war, there were fears that his actual gaining of authority could turn into authoritarianism, therefore, in order for the state to remain democratic, they decided
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to change it, churchill did not even have the opportunity to finish his participation in these post-war conferences in potsdam, but if from the point of view of being in line, it was obviously offensive, but from the point of view of the development of britain, it was an absolutely correct decision. britain preserved itself as a powerful democratic state, mr. volodymyr, one of the pillars and foundations of the russian world in ukraine was and remains a branch of the russian orthodox church until march 29, the monks of the kiev-pechersk lavra must leave this monastery, as they say, and leave the lavra and this decision has already been made by the ministry of culture and it is obvious that the monks will simply not give up because yesterday there was a recording of the moscow priests turning to zelensky and there is such an archimandrite er zechariah who served in the church and sang in honor of russia this video. i think many of our viewers saw it like this. zakharia said
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that he prayed in the lavra and bo told him that zelensky would be the next president. well , on the eve of 2019, how did it all go? and what are the moscow priests asking volodymyr for now? let's see zelensky. i'm saying goodbye to the president, so in this monastery, i prayed and asked god to reveal to me who will be our president. the lord revealed to me that vladimir zelensky will be the president. the brothers of the monastery and the parishioners all prayed that volodymyr zelensky would become the president, and now, last time, we prayed for him, that he would become the president, that he would not offend our lavra, but, on the contrary, protect it. well
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there was another episode that was interesting. where is this zahariya who says that he is a friend of this mykhailo, well , i don’t know who was closest to zelensky, this mykhailo said that if he wins the elections , this is on the video, for those who want to watch , you can google it appeal, he says that if zelensky wins, he said that he will be baptized in this church, well, that is, some strange statements. to be honest, how do you look at the topilsk lavra? now the stations around the lavra, not only the kyiv-pecherska lavra, but also the pochaivskaya lavra, have already started to be turned back these monasteries into state property, i am less confused now by all the priest dances, i am confused that, unfortunately, this pace that the state took in the context of not banning the russian orthodox church. for a few more weeks after the new
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year, almost every morning there are those epic photo shoots against the background of one or another russian orthodox church, which reminded us that this is how the state fights against this structure , somewhere near some cathedral, the state in its face the special services are trying to stop the harmful activities of these e-e structures that operate under the guise of the rpc, but unfortunately it stopped there. unfortunately, the draft laws that have been prepared in the parliament, which are even er, i am one of the co-authors of the bills on the ban of the rpc, the main author. we have mykola knyazhytskyi, we passed these draft laws through our committee, our committee on humanitarian information policy supported this project, and for the second month , this question is not even on the agenda . for me, this is quite an alarming signal.
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shows that, unfortunately, the decision to stop the activity of this structure has not actually been adopted yet, so all other things , such as the deprivation of the opportunity to rule in or the eviction from the kyiv-pechersk lavra, this is of course important, but all these are not irreversible steps, an irreversible step will be precisely the adoption of this law, which is still obviously er, the adoption of which is still obviously delayed with bankova street, that is why the leadership of the parliament will not dare to put them er on the agenda. i think it is very necessary. that is, this is a political decision have an absolutely political solution and absolutely this one unfortunately, it shows that there is a desire to finish and finally solve this problem in the leadership of the state. so far, we have one more synchronization of the infamous pasha mercedes, this is pavlo lebid, he is the head of kyiv - of the pechersk lavra, he announced that the moscow priests would not be evicted from the lavra
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because it is illegal and appealed to history and covered himself with his parishioners, let's see, we do not intend to evacuate and we will not because now there are laws that are on the side of man and uh... that we are threatened that they will deal with us, this is not the 17th year, today there is a worldwide community , there is some kind of culture we have not yet begun to pray so hard that the lord will show a miracle, but surely, after all, they will force enough of what they have imposed sanctions, they are taking away citizenship but the whole of ukraine cannot do this to believers today, once again i appeal to those who have the right to do so, we are not against all legal actions, well , there can be no illegal ones, although it is interesting. this is a person who
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built 36 buildings on the territory of the kyiv-pechersk lavra, a historical monument yatki and this is recorded. well, i'm from the audit service. he says that we won't, we'll pray that he almost used putin there , we haven't even started yet. and that's another reason . because we remember these processions to the kiev-pechersk lavra. and to the pochaiv lavra, i have a fairly simple question: can the moscow church, which is now in ukraine, because it is called the official ukrainian orthodox church, well , the russian orthodox church, can they create an internal front in ukraine, that is, synchronously with the russian federation because the russian federation wants to go on the offensive in certain areas of the front. but can the church in this story and when they understand that their business is being taken away because for them it is a very big
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business and when they understand that they will be evicted from the laurels of one from another and from other churches, can they raise parishioners and make an internal front that will prevent us from waging war with russia. because others can do anything , if they do not stop this activity in the bud. maybe provocative activity. it seems to me that it is not clear to me the pause with the adoption of the law on the banning of the russian orthodox church, it gives an opportunity to somehow recover in this church because literally december, january, uh, well, we saw that uh, the russian orthodox church was not ready for such of decisive actions on the part of the ukrainian authorities, now it seems to me that all these even fragments of which you and i have now seen are, after all, preparations for some kind of attack. i do not know what form, what scale it
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will take, but i absolutely agree with you. the probability that they will somehow be able to at least try to disperse the situation from the middle is very high. therefore, it is necessary to pass laws without delay , it is necessary to bring to justice those people who have already been identified as collaborators since the year of this full-scale war, but i am convinced that if we dig deeper, then obviously we can very clearly to see how for many , many years this church was essentially an instrument of russian influence in ukraine , and you and i called medvedchuks there , and so on, and so on. this is absolutely a parallel story that no less powerfully influenced the internal political situation in ukraine in the context of russia's influence. well, this same story will seriously influence the internal situation in ukraine already after our victory over russia. the largest in terms of parishes, and many parishioners go there despite the war to these churches, and
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it is clear that these monks are not only monks , priests in general are in these churches, they will conduct their own politics and have their own let us tell the russians something in this matter, we have already made a number of mistakes that can still be corrected, but which will already have bad consequences after ukraine receives the tomos in 2019. in ukraine , an absolutely natural and correct process of transition of parishes to the orthodox church of ukraine started quite quickly. at the same time, a law was passed on renaming this church to the russian orthodox church and , unfortunately, paradoxically, the name of this process became the ukrainian state, because again in our country the government and the entourage of president zelenskyi directly from the president's office intervened in the process of transitions and actually slowed down these processes of transitions to the orthodox church of ukraine, moreover, we saw last year a very strange letter from the leadership of the security service of ukraine,
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the kyiv region of the regional administration kyiv region, where those people who encouraged the transition to the orthodox church of ukraine were actually intimidated, thank god the leadership of the security service of ukraine has changed and it seems to me that the new head of the security service, mr. makik, has a different attitude towards this matter, and i hope that this kind of thing will not happen again. but nevertheless, it is already very, very much. hmm, a lot of wasted time, and the most important thing is that this necessary natural transition process was simple suspended, it is obvious that once again we are giving the russian church a chance to recover and launch some kind of offensive, and i ask you as a historian. and now, if not as a politician, i have been watching over the past 32 years how ukrainians are trying
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to get rid of the russian orthodox church that is, in 1990, in october, alexy came to kyiv, this is the patriarch who was before gundyaev, and he, hm, wrote a letter in kyiv and gave autocephaly. well, it seems that he gave autocephaly to his church in ukraine, and then i was still a student among those who shouted go away, moscow pope , and for the past 32 years, everything has been in my ears. turn it away, moscow pope, when i don't come to the russian orthodox church, as i always think. well, if we were able to proclaim the act of independence on august 24, 1991 and said something about state sovereignty in july 1990, what prevented us from doing everything right from the beginning of independence with the church of bushi laret, who actually did the kyiv patriarchate
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, who was cursed there in moscow, and why did this process slow down, why did we not get rid of it, knowing in the principle that the church is one of the important elements of a foreign state's influence , if this foreign church does not exist in our territory, well, you know, from a historical point of view, even the process of ukraine's loss of independence and reconstruction independence was shorter. because we are talking somewhere from the end of the 18th century until 1991, with a break of 18-21 years, when the ukrainian state was still being created, that is, it is still a few hundred years. if we are talking about the loss of church independence, then here it is another 100 years. the year 1687, if i am not mistaken in essence, ukraine lost its church independence. that is why we are overcoming somewhat deeper historical processes, so here church independence lags behind political independence, although it is good that they have already begun to catch up
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. it seems to me that in this context obtaining a tomos is just somewhere a kind of analog of church independence before the act of august 24, 1991, which is late precisely because we matured longer before this precisely because it is obvious that it is more difficult for society to overcome those longer and longer dependence, and in addition , we need to understand that the church is, by definition, by nature a more conservative structure than politics , it is obvious that any process takes place there more slowly but it seems to me that now there are all grounds for saying that the church independence of ukraine is mature that is, we already have an independent ukrainian church and the orthodox church of ukraine and the ukrainian greek catholic church. but at the same time, the russian orthodox church is still present here, that is, there is no longer any dominance of this russian orthodox church, but even its very presence in
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ukraine is also it is dangerous, that is, here again the parallelism of political history , that is, we already have our own independent state , we have the armed forces of ukraine, which are on ukrainian territory, but at the same time, we are still reconquering this territory. the armed forces of the russian federation and the same in essence in the church issue i will ask you now as a member of petro poroshenko's political team about the slogan with which we poroshenko went to the elections in 2019 army language faith do you agree with what uh last year volodymyr zelenskyi began to implement the slogan of petro poroshenko in 2019 to a large extent, yes, but i would like this slogan to be implemented in full, because there are a lot of things that you and i are talking about, we just talked a lot about the church, they are rather is advertised and declared as what one really wants society but we do not see any definitive decisive lessons with the language, although i will remind you that
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about a year and a half ago, there were attacks by the presidential majority on language legislation, systemic attacks from probably 10 attempts to change the legislation, we have repelled them in this parliament now. it is obvious that this is already it is not up to date with the army, it is also somewhat easier, because the obviousness of the need to support the army is clear to everyone, although again , the current government is again taking some illogical steps, such as canceling payments for the armed forces of ukraine. the so-called combat e-e is completely illogical, completely inappropriate, and it is obvious that what demoralizes ukrainians is also in many soldiers, but in general , it seems to me that zelensky understood that the army is the language of faith - this is not about the elections, after all, these some pillars of the foundation on which the state should, in principle, be built, this is history, the framework in which the current ukraine should exist, that is, it is clear that the army is the language of faith, and these are the pillars on which the ukrainian state stands and must continue to stand, and
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it will be uh, it will not be limited to zelenskyi regardless of whether he will be the next president or someone else will be the next president, i am convinced that these are the pillars that will remain relevant for the future, and just as it happened with zelenskyi, ukraine is capable of digesting many politicians, and any president of ukraine has a chance to either become the president of ukraine or to stop being the president of ukraine, now zelenskyi has a sufficiently high rating well , it is clear that during the war he is the president of the war, although he always wanted to be the president peace. we remember this pre-war rhetoric. and yet, in 2024, there are calendar elections for the president of ukraine, it is not known whether they will take place or not. how would you see the future of the student future , because it is clear that volodymyr zelenskyi has quite a lot there is a great potential to be elected the president of ukraine for the second time, and
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how will the circumstances develop and should he , for example, limit himself to one term and remain the president, this is his personal promise that he gives only for one term, that is, he talked about it, will president zelensky actually be president for a second term or not , it will obviously depend on when how the war will end, because even if we are talking about victory, it will obviously always depend on when this victory will take place all these high ratings that we see now, they are essentially built on the credit of the victory, we all believe that there will be a victory and that the victory will come quickly, and that it is obvious that the merit in this victory can be capitalized by president zelenskyi but at the same time, it is very important now not to forget about some domestic political steps taken by the president's team, which are very far from such optimistic forecasts , which are very far from making ukraine stronger, because, well, as a people's deputy from the opposition, i simply cannot ignore those
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steps aimed at the further subordination of law enforcement agencies to the entire structure of the fight against corruption when it tries to bring to responsibility those people who changed the country for the better that is, there will actually be a lot of challenges, first of all internal political ones. well, we will keep an eye on it. thank you for the conversation , volodymyr. i will remind our viewers that it was volodymyr vyatrovych . yatrovycha, it is called our centenary short essays about the long war please come those who are in lviv to the presentation and i will be so we are waiting for you at the presentation thank you all for your attention i wish everyone
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of the liberated cities of ukraine have gone. the pro-russian non-humans were terrible, it was very scary every day. one by one, two houses were burned, and the natsiks of the ukrainian people are here. yes, we are all nationalists here. did the residents resist? the residents came here, stopped them and sent them back, and became heroes. the novel was and will always be ukraine about unbreakable cities of ukraine . from the ukrainer project in the documentary series deoccupation every saturday at 11:10 a.m. on espresso in ukraine at 7 p.m. the time of the final
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