[000:00:00;00] were converted either into cash in ukraine or into cards instead of salary, which the employer has to pay through large networks, or in general, they ended up somewhere outside of ukraine in the form of currency. it's not optimization, it's actually organized criminal groups that play around the district because it's called and they take money out of circulation in ukraine outside of ukraine, and i don't rule out that there you are a russian trail and whatever you want. maybe that's why you know. just if we said there that certain sectors of our economy are in the shadows, but now we have a different problem. this is such an illegal method

of some kind of financial transactions in ukraine . thank you, mrs. nino. thank you for the detailed and professional comments. of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on issues of finance, tax and customs policy was in touch with us. we are moving on. important news has already arrived from the side of european solidarity . will be appointed to a high position in the leadership of the armed forces of ukraine. therefore, the office of the official statement of european solidarity cites de facto to the army general zabrodskyi , the hero of ukraine since the 14th year, the legendary commander of the airborne assault troops and the kombi of the 95th brigade has returned from the first days of the full-scale invasion now the moment has come when he should fully focus on the service of strengthening the strategic potential of the armed forces of ukraine, contributing, together with valeriy zaluzhnym and other military leaders, to the success

of a decisive counteroffensive on the rosnya front from now it is really much more needed, because such experienced and brave soldiers as mykhailo are worth their weight in gold , such as him would make any team of european solidarity proud. they expressed confidence that general zabrodsky will justify the trust and fulfill the best hope. there was information that people's deputy mykhailo zabrodskyi, lieutenant general, will make a mandate. well, he will most likely work in the structures of the general staff of ukraine . in fact, this is good news for me, i think for myself as well professional, the highest equality for ukraine, a general with combat experience, he is really more needed at the front today than in the verkhovna rada, evgeny magda is with us , the director of the institute of world politics, yevgeny , congratulations, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes , let me start with china , literally for p' for seven days sisypin has to pay to go to moscow to meet with putin and there is a lot of talk about the fact that he will fly in. you always have your own opinion and your own information and

your own vision of the situation. i would like to ask you what we ukrainians should expect from this visit, first of all, well, and then we will talk about what will be the online conversation of sisypine with president volodymyr zelensky, please, do you know the information noise surrounding cd's visit to moscow ? it reminds me personally. well, although all analogies suffer from analogies reminds us of the situation that we observed after 2015, when there were meetings of the normandy four in any format, or foreign ministers or leaders of countries, which was not often or

something else, but it was all not often and accordingly we expected some kind of betrayal. i think that all depins have a vision of a bipolar world, and in this bipolar world, the two poles are china and the united states. russia is there. as far as i understand , china is not a pulse, this does not mean that china will completely abandon er-er allied relations with russia. well, here we are for example , now there will be a rather difficult realization that russia will chair the security council of the united nations despite the fact that it is an aggressor state. i think less than a year ago and having

i would say rather inertial ounian diplomacy. exit from the ukrainian crisis, the wording here is also very telling, it shows that china has realized that this is a long-term war, and it is obvious that china, we now see them in st. petersburg, so that china will draw conclusions for itself and take a certain position in relation to russia. but it has is another factor

is the economic relations with the european union . such a story, you very rightly pointed out that we are entering the world of bipolarization of world relations and this bipolarization is dangerous because we will now see or observe in real time in particular we are talking about the inhabitants of the european continent, as economic and security relations will be rebuilt, and not only, that is, in general, the architecture of world security has moved into unprecedented dynamics, unprecedented for sure in 1945, like well, maybe something similar happened in 1989, in 1990, it was more about positive changes. now we see you also rightly noted the restructuring, and vasyl zima also extremely correctly started with this, that

china is now starting to build its own clear line, and this story is not only about relations with the aggressor state, in particular, it will concern the participation of beijing, so to speak, in the settlement of certain disputes between iran , and the saudis are also a completely unprecedented story. china is starting to build a chinese world, the russian world looks in comparison to that, you know, a poor, poor simulator, bloody shameful, and so on, but china is starting to set big tones, indeed , this will be a question of particular and big of economic trade yes, but we must not forget that china will now try to rebuild its presence in the world not only on the basis of trade or economic relations but and on the basis of the control of certain raw materials, and here we are talking about both the resources of the russian federation and the asian

resources in their part, as well as african resources , that is, the dynamics are truly unprecedented, mr. yevgeny, in africa china e.e. is launching its influences not for the first year, it is true and we can say about the fact that in africa china has already replaced the former soviet influence. well, with the exception of a number of states where prigozhyn is trying to do something, but since he is trying to do it on behalf of a private military campaign, then this indicates, i think, the insecurity of russia we have to understand for ourselves and what do we offer to china and so in 2021, in the category of countries of economic partners according to export and import indicators, ukraine was number one, that's right

, as of today, we have had no ambassadors to china for 25 months, this is a strategic approach, even if a former minister is appointed there of strategic industries this approach will not become strategic because a certain amount of time will pass from the decree on the appointment of the ambassador to his arrival in beijing, as a rule, it is several months well, as experience shows, various different embassies, depending on how much a person is willing to go and as far as i understand , we still do not have so many sinologist specialists at the moment, well, in this sense, we continue to live in ukraine with a centric world, china well, come on, let 's decide for ourselves or

we hang labels on them that they are damned chinese communists who are striving for world expansion and accordingly then we will not be surprised because they will supply something to russia what is there for her do you remember this phrase from stalin times socially close or we will talk about the fact that this is a country that is a permanent member of the un security council, which is, accordingly, a nuclear country and which will obviously build its own peace plan in the russian-ukrainian war, this plan will not be similar to the plan of the united states of great britain and our other western partners why because the vision of china and the vision of the western world of what is happening in the russian-ukrainian war, in my

opinion, are different, we may not like the vision. accept the chinese point of view it is true that we can lobby there, we can say that well no, let's look there and so on, accordingly, i believe that there are realities with which we must take this into account, and these realities are called economic chinese power and, accordingly, our interests in this context, how can we adjust between for yourself well, the classics already said, yevgeny, when you wake up in the morning, don't think, think not only about what america can do for you, but also about what you can do for america, well

, paraphrasing, we translate it into a certain tracing paper that is, what can we do to interest china as an individual country, much less than as part of a collective event, because such big deals and big negotiations are only possible , so to speak, if ukraine represents the western community, in particular the same the european union, that is, and in this way , it would be easier for us to reach a certain understanding, you know, mr. antin, i will limit myself geographically to the baltic sea region and the black sea region, because china , on the one hand, has interests in belarus there a certain amount of money has already been invested, but now due to the internal political situation and certain economic difficulties , the transit potential of belarus has significantly decreased, and

this is obvious . it is possible to enter and use certain investment levers, the only problem is that i am a skeptic about european integration in two years in the categories of astronomical time i do not see two years for european integration i do not see for the current situation that is currently observed if we think that uh, we will build our european integration policy with brussels according to the principle of "donate for it" academic saying "they won't throw it for pavlo" believe me brussels already has a fairly

significant experience of expansion at the expense of former socialist countries and i am afraid that they will quickly lose their existing sympathy for ukraine. although, of course, building relations with ukraine for many european politicians today is quite an interesting factor, i want we don't have much time to ask you, but if there will be a conversation in the online mode, although you know from another side, do you remember how bani unexpectedly arrived in kyiv? maybe it's the same. in your opinion, do the experts and he himself prepare president volodymyr zelenskyi and his advisers sufficiently to offer something to the country, because it is clear that he will voice his positions, but he, like any wise man,

an eastern political figure, well, wise with his wisdom, i will wait for it. and what do you offer me, please? well, on the one hand, there is such a powerful diplomatic adviser as mr. sebiga, there is an experienced diplomatic adviser, such as mr. zhovkva, there is a comprehensive adviser like mr. yarmak, but in these surnames i lack a chinese scholar, a sinologist, i do not know who in this sense works in the presidential office in the chinese direction, i would like to know, but i do not know well, you know, if we are talking about informational methods, informational levers of influence, then it is obvious that ukraine had to demonstrate well for example, at one time there was even talk of a possible tour of the youth, even before the large-scale invasion, a possible tour of volodymyr zelensky ukraine has so why can't we appoint a person who constantly communicates these issues in the media, but before

zipin's visit to moscow, we heard a lot of reflections what will our policy be in relation to china , probably no, because it seems that we are doing well but we are not doing well support for a collective event - this is good it is wonderful and it is good that we do not lose it but there is another world and there are our positions, to put it mildly, are far from so unambiguously positive, there are also strong russian influences, and so far it is not obvious to me, for example, our effective counterdiabetes and the thesis that we do not bloom according to the principle of mao zedong, we will launch all the flowers from a dozen embassies in african countries, we do not to be honest, i am still not convinced , thank you very much, mr. eugene, the chinese direction is not fully reflected in us, so to speak, in a public discussion, and probably

more than anything in certain offices of power, the direction is very important and should be strengthened well, unfortunately we have to let go director of the institute of world politics yevhen magda worked with us on an extremely important topic, but we are moving on with vasyl yes yes valeriya e valeriya ryabikh director of information development of the defense express consulting company mr. valeriya congratulations greetings from the studio greetings dear tv viewers how are you they say it's not f-16, but thank god on the 29th , poland and slovakia gave the go -ahead, we understand that there was a very difficult discussion. they made a certain message there, saying that it was a sovereign decision, so to speak, poland well, because poland took the lead in this process, then slovakia joined and also its

presentation, the aviation presentation will also be even more than the polish one, but in any case , history reaches a certain finish line, yes and the president of england, duda, even publicly shortened the terms of delivery of the polish cans , because previously prime minister moravetskii said that it could take several weeks, and the president of poland, andriy duda , said that it was a matter of several days, perhaps even mr. valery migi. and it could be good. and we have a situation when finally in this uh , the postponed requests are being implemented . i understand that this copper, which was such a long-awaited uh, uh, treasure that should have received the air force of the armed forces

ukraine can finally help to strengthen the aviation component, because at least well, they have been talking about these planes for a year, but i still understand that there could be a number of reasons, both domestic and political, and in these countries, although we we know that poland was the first to declare about the possibility of the transfer of these migs, however, i still see that the delay in the transfer of these aircraft was , let's say, the quality of the reserve in order to use them exactly when they will be most needed, in addition, i do not rule out that it was natural to modernize these planes in order to adapt them to the use of various types of weapons according to nato standards, this is also enough essential

technical technological and we have examples that even those planes that have uh the armament of the air forces of the armed forces of ukraine was still able to use some means of production of nato countries, and these are, first of all, harm radar missiles, which, by the way , became gene changers during the liberation of the kherson region, well, in addition, there is also evidence that armed the forces of ukraine have already used uh, planning bombs, waiting for them, and they have also been adapted to use them. well, here we have a situation when uh, these migs that were in service with nato countries in

slovakia and poland, they already have certain improvement is a complete complex - it is, let's say, the christening of the communication and control system and their adaptation to, let's say, a number of nato systems. with the enemy's aircraft, but we'll see in the future. well, we can still say that this is such a significant event, and it should be noted that this is only the beginning of the work of the aviation coalition, because it is still the final goal that was announced and is currently being carried out. let's say this is the complete rearmament air forces of the armed forces of ukraine for nato-type aircraft, so now it is in the process and we expect that these machines

, which have now been announced for transfer , will soon be reinforced by the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, and i want to hear your opinion about what has been going on for a long time, well at least a few months. yes, starting from autumn. maybe even in winter, we are talking about the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine. staff games are being held in the country, well, on the territory of nato countries. question: is everything so predictable and understandable in war, because the announcement of this counteroffensive has been around for a long time, and the enemy is also preparing for this war, its current nature , does he clearly say that this counteroffensive will take place, even if we do not know where or if there may be any surprises because honestly, when events change so quickly and the enemy accumulates accumulates accumulates er forces and means, well, let's talk about the fact that there is a stable such and such number, time x, we will go to the counteroffensive somewhere there and

we will go. affection well, the thing is that between what you and i talk about on the air and what happens behind closed doors in military offices, including the so-called dark rooms where plans for the military use of the armed forces of ukraine are being built , they are slightly different, but of course these messages that they voiced are connected somewhere, including the fact that about what we are talking about, it is also the basis for creating conditions for conducting these counteroffensive operations, either in the form of misleading the enemy or, for example, erasing some such idea e- what there, let's say, it lies on the surface to the level of absurdity, and as a result, maybe this very idea will shoot the most decisive moments, but

if you take the strategies and operational art - it is still art, and besides the fact that all of them are predictable options and the offensive, and even the enemy can guess and where such offensives can be, but the thing is that, well , no one in war is all-powerful, there is always a lack of strength, there is always a lack of means, just at that moment and that is, let's say, art military commander in order to to use these or other available forces and means in such a way as to outwit and outwit the enemy, so we can only remember the kharkiv operation, it was carried out against the canons of operational art, because i informed our

military that the operation itself was not let's say that the number of forces and means was small, they did not have an advantage, as it is interpreted by classical approaches to the conduct of such operations. when the attacking party must provide an advantage of 3.6 times or more in order to develop an offensive, we saw that the advantage was achieved first of all in the information field because , after all , the enemy was ultimately misled and was also outmatched by the application of the management system and the clear organization of the use of forces and means, as well as by the use of a number of tactical strikes which e-e achieved well allowed to achieve e-e precisely operational tasks e-e and e-e let’s say so

with e-e use of e-e fewer forces and means and e-e creation of such conditions for the enemy when he is on the battlefield understood little and in let's say that it turned out that it was better to retreat without understanding what was happening and to get into the environment earlier . we hope that this spring-summer company will not be standard . the most important thing is that they can, in addition to the fact that the enemy's means prevail, which he currently has , they also

prevail. to de-occupy all er territories and to enter the internationally determined and recognized borders of ukraine er i hope that according to the results of this spring-summer offensive campaign yes p valery this is extremely important well and we a couple of days ago a rather strange and aggressive russian plane two happened from below the cream russian planes attacked an american drone , so there was no resonance, as if there was nothing special, although we understand that the parties were extremely tense . we cannot verify this matter for sure, but the russians, so to speak, understood that perhaps they crossed a certain line in relations with the united states, well , in any case, the americans have now sent a new

global house reconnaissance drone to the black sea, as evidenced by the data of the flytradar service. ru for unmanned take-offs from the sigonella bila air base near the italian city of catania, it was in the airspace of romania, now it flies over the black sea, and it is being followed by about 15,000 e users and has entered the waters of the black sea sea ​​already after the russians killed the american unmanned creeper. what do you think is happening now? why are the russians trying to dig out the remains of an american uav on the black sea, but we have two minutes, mr. valeryovich , orient yourself in time, please. the thing is that it is basically there was probably a certain game on the part of the americans, and the russians succumbed to this group, and they began, uh, this competition with measurements

, who has something more, broader, uh, subsenses , the possibility of influence, but here we saw , including uh, an emotional statement was ideostin yesterday and where did he say that we will fly where we say it is allowed by all international agreements and i felt that this is exactly as far as i understand this unmanned aerial vehicle he still repeated the feat of that british destroyer and the united states showed that they are still talking about the fact that crimea is ukraine , because by and large, how can you judge from the video that was made public that it was a drone, the russians tried

to drive it away from the its air base usakov because it was so very very it seems that these were demonstrative actions, at the same time it should be said that there is nothing wrong with digging out the remains of such drones, there are more than the wto and already about a dozen of such drones of the americans were lost. there is an automatic system of destruction of all critical data and nodes, so this is a standard situation for the american military, and i think that the answers to this daring action are already as a result of the vectors as if already in to the russian federation, thank you, mother, thank you. to the award of the wave, we must now pass the news of the relay to our wonderful colleague angelinitsa sezonnku. what are we doing? thank you very much , colleagues. another incident due to a change

in danger, this time in kharkiv oblast , a local woman was blown up by an enemy