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[000:00:00;00] you are now on the screen, that's all . you can see the link on the screen in the volume of this video. join our community with the press . you will receive certain preferences, access to the backstage from the studio with the presenters, that is, what happens outside the cameras, you will see and hear a special live broadcast with the directors express, the opportunity to ask video questions, the opportunity to ask questions to guests from the press, you can also ask me questions conditionally saying what serhiy rudenko or antin borkovskyi and our guests, as well as additional announcements of special broadcasts and guests express that you could plan your time and when e-e guests who are particularly interesting to you and whom you have questions will have the opportunity to ask questions support us now to your attention bbc news goodbye good evening we are from ukraine good evening on the air of the bbc with ukraine live from london i am yevgenia shadlovskaya and today in the program the main news of the day is the international criminal
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court in gaza issued a warrant for putin's arrest now he is suspected of war crimes does not mean that but will the leader of china now go to moscow to meet with putin this visit was announced earlier and slovakia followed by poland, where ukraine has mig-29 aircraft, how to strengthen ukrainian defense and whether ukraine will be given modern f-16 aircraft, the international criminal court in gaza issued international warrants for the arrest of the president of russia vladimir putin and authorized on the rights of the child, maria lviv and bilolava, both of them are suspected of illegal deportation of children from the occupied territories of ukraine, these are war crimes that were committed at least at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, and here is a quote from
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court notice putin is most likely responsible for the war crime of illegal deportation of children and illegal transfer of children from the occupied territories of ukraine to russia, approximately the same reasoning regarding the warrant of the russian children's ombudsman, what is important is that they issued a warrant for the arrest of the current leader of the country, let's hear about it said the head of the court, the international criminal court issued two arrest warrants regarding the situation in ukraine, vladimir putin , the president of the russian federation, and maria lviv and belova, the russian president's commissioner for children's rights on charges of war crimes, the deportation of children from the occupied territories of ukraine to the russian federation, this is an important moment in the justice process at the icc, the judges reviewed the information and evidence provided by the prosecutor of the icc and decided
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that these persons have credible charges of alleged crimes, the international criminal court is performing its part of the work as a legal institution, the judges have issued arrest warrants , execution depends on international cooperation international this happened, what did you think in the first time you heard about this news. congratulations yevgenia. i think that we should really welcome this event as the first swallow , there will be other swallows after it, but you know everything starts with the first one, so i think today is really quite a black day for putin because
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he became uh officially declared an international political corpse, this means that no one from the civilized world will communicate with him anymore, moreover, if he risks visiting some countries that have ratified the rome statute, he can with a great degree of reliability uh take him into custody and hand him over to the jurisdiction. but putin is the current president of the country. that is, is this a warrant for the arrest of the current president of the country? is it possible or is there a regulated procedure for arresting the leader of the country who is in power ? as you understand, it is not accepted on the basis of guesses. and this is the result of the analysis of the charges
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against him and the suspicions that have already been analyzed by the prosecutors. therefore, it is absolutely in accordance with the requirements of the rome statute. therefore, this decision cannot be appealed, and if we look at the examples , there are really few of them. it seems to me that this is the sixth case in this history of a criminal case of some level when accusations are brought against the head of state, mainly it was representatives of the regimes. well, now putin is among them one of the star figures, so to speak, so the level is appropriate, what’s next , the international criminal court does not issue verdicts in absentia, that is, in order for the case to be considered in court, putin must be there physically
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on the dock, that’s possible, you know it seems to me that in addition to the foreign policy aspect, this decision has a very serious impact on what will happen in russia itself, i will explain to you what i mean, look now putin's entourage has received a very strong pass that says what he is saying about what if this entourage will take putin and deliver him to the hands of the international criminal court, this will mean that in this way they will be able to at least try to save their own fate by rewriting all the crimes on putin, this was once the case with the tyrant in the former yugoslavia after that, serbia got certain eh about european chances, as usual, she squanders
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it right away, but that's another story, so i think that this is a very serious pass for those eh in russia who are still thinking about how to end putin's regime to moscow the leader of china should come, all ding-ping, that is, and this was announced before the international arrest warrant for putin was issued. in your opinion, this visit will still take place in three days, the first since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, they were really faced with a very serious choice because uh to go to someone who is justifiably accused of crimes against humanity, crimes of military aggression, and so on, this means putting yourself on the same level with him . therefore, i think that now in beijing they are seriously
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thinking about this issue, and i am not 100% sure that the solution will be positive although the accused has not yet been convicted, he has not yet been punished, this is only the beginning of the process. therefore, it is possible that this is exactly what the chinese will play by talking about the fact that there is no court verdict, so it is not possible to talk about the fact that putin has committed what crime yes what is here will really depend on the political will of the sizzling and what is around him. that is, you think the world of calls can come to moscow next week and meet with putin in the kremlin , what is the possibility ? although china tries
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to balance all the time precisely between russia and the west and pretend that it is a great peacemaker, the scumbag helped us understand what this means, this is a signal to the international community that russia violates international legislation this is how the bbc columnist james landale summarizes the bbc columnist on diplomatic issues, who is currently in kyiv. the key point of this decision is that the international criminal court has decided to focus on president putin, although it could try many other russian military leaders who bombed civilians, schools, hospitals and residential buildings. quarters of all those accused of war crimes instead of what the court does it decides to focus on two things the deportation of children which is considered a war crime and
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responsibility for this not only by the commissioner for human affairs, but also the responsibility of president putin himself . according to the court, the reason for this decision is to try to stop the crimes that are happening right now. further, whether this attempt will be successful, we have yet to see, so i think it is of great importance, very small probability that putin will leave russia and go somewhere he can be arrested, but at the same time it is a signal to the international community that what is happening and happened in ukraine violates international law and the court, by its decision , places responsibility for it on president putin. the ministry of foreign affairs in moscow says that it has nothing to do with them. a direct quote, the decisions of the international criminal court do not have any significance for our country, these are the words of the press secretary of sakharova, she says that russia
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is not a party to the rome statute of the international criminal court, so it does not bear any obligations that russia does not cooperate with this structure and so on, it is not surprising that the ukrainians have a completely different position, they made it clear that they welcome the decision of the chief prosecutor . will definitely be punished and this is very important for ukrainians because they demanded responsibility for war crimes at least to start this process they know that it will take a long time that any form of justice will take many years if we look at the conflict in the former slavia, it took decades to bring certain people to justice and convict them, so i think that ukraine is satisfied that this process has at least already begun, and here is a quote from the prosecutor of ukraine andrii kostin, he wrote on facebook, this
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means that putin should be arrested outside of russia and take him to court and the world from world leaders will think three times before shaking hands or sitting down at the negotiating table with him, the world has received a signal that the russian regime is criminal, its leadership and henchmen will be brought to justice to the responsibility of the statement of the prosecutor general of ukraine, minister of foreign affairs dmytro kuleba said that international criminals will be held responsible for child abduction and other crimes. and here is the statement of president volodymyr zelenskyi, he said a historic decision from which historical responsibility will begin ukraine recognizes the jurisdiction of the international criminal court russia does not recognize and hanged correspondents in muscovites , the size told more about the russian reaction to this hour from moscow, there is only the reaction of maria zakharova, the press secretary of the ministry of russia's foreign affairs, what did she do, she reposted her statement, she made it yesterday about the international criminal court, she says that
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russia has no obligations to it, that russia does not cooperate with it, and that the decisions of the international criminal court do not matter. this is the position russia has always had moscow does not recognize the jurisdiction of this court. well , russia does not extradite its citizens. at the moment , it is difficult to imagine that vladimir putin will be extradited to an international criminal court. i think this decision is symbolic. putin's arrest further undermines his international reputation making him even more of a rogue than he is now don't forget in three days china 's president zen pin is going to moscow on a state visit for talks and top level talks with vladimir putin so he will be sitting next to the man for which the international criminal court issued an arrest warrant well, here is the reaction of the kremlin, putin's spokesman dmytro piskov, commenting on the decision of the international criminal court, said that for russia such decisions are worthless from a legal point of view.
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the question is whether putin will travel to a country that recognizes the jurisdiction of the court, that is, where he can potentially be arrested . piskov did not answer that the international criminal court is preparing certain decisions in the investigations into the war in ukraine. the journalists knew, but what exactly these details were unknown until today. who works in the gas industry will tell how the journalists were informed . we came to the international criminal court for the press conference of the prosecutor, except for khan, there was no prior notification about these warrants for arrest here is a press release and it is interesting that it is about one specific crime, it is about the alleged deportation of children from the occupied territories of ukraine, the arrest warrant is confidential, it was kept secret according to it, russian president putin, together with others, exercised control over civilian and military subordinates who committed crimes the russians are a participant in the iss and it is very unlikely that moscow will come out of the suspects to appear here
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before the court, but it is extremely symbolic in the last few days so much has been said about the possibility of arrest warrants in the future and now it happened much sooner than many expected the prosecutor except khan made it a priority of this law institute he visited ukraine four times the last literally at the beginning of this month he was in a children's center surrounded by empty cribs and then he said that children cannot be used as war booty, and these warrants testify to the fact that here they are committed to the cause of achieving justice for the people of ukraine , my colleague from kyiv, zhanna
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moskviychuk, zhanna of the entire territory of ukraine, is in touch with us. in russia , you have been researching this topic for a long time. explain the scale of the crime. of this war and every day this information is updated there, in particular, there are data on e.e. forcibly deported children as of march 17 - these are 16,226 children according to official data e.e. 385 children are considered there is a very high probability that the missing persons are also children who were forcibly taken from ukraine to russia during the war. and these are very large numbers, but in russian propaganda , in particular, in their e-e document, gangster
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films that were filmed about ukrainian children so that they would suffer from the war, the figure was called more than 150,000 ukrainian children were taken out of ukraine to russia, the only thing is that their status can obviously be different, and some part of these children left with their families, that is , approximately such a scale, in any case, it is worth looking at the ukrainian figures parties because ukraine verifies every case, everyone confirms the information they receive before changing, official figures are higher than those available today on the children of war portal. well, what is known about the schemes of forced transfer and deportation of children from ukraine to russia, but formally russia can
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declare that it saves children from the war that was actually unleashed by yes. this means that it is known that children were forcibly deported from ukraine to russia , in particular during the filtering, when the parents did not pass the filtering, the children were taken from them and taken to russia or to the temporarily occupied further territories, children were taken by force from the so-called disadvantaged monodependent families, this is the term a -a in er-e in the ukrainian russian world a-a i apologize in the russian chamber er-er it is er-er very specific somewhere not about social dysfunctional families mainly a about families who had pro-ukrainian views and took children from them in the occupied territories , and even those families who simply refused to send their children to a russian school in the occupied territory, i.e., this school, which was created in
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a ukrainian building after a russian educational programs and further, these children were moved between several centers of temporary detention , and after these centers the child gets to the center for the promotion of family education in russia in different regions of this country, and there the children are waiting for illegal adoption. children must undergo a certain certain training and the ideological education of the ukrainian child and even as reported about the defenders to pass an exam on the ideological education of ukrainian children this is how it is happening in russia why human rights defenders insist that this crime is an international crime. well, the prosecutor of the international criminal court, in addition to khan, said that we cannot allow children to be treated as
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if they were war booty. zhanna . thank you. -29 is good news for the ukrainian government, which has been using planes since the beginning of a full-scale invasion of russia. so , slovakia will hand over 13 such muscles , the prime minister of the country, eduard heger, announced this, and the slovak minister of defense said that the process complex deliveries will take several weeks. first, about the transfer of aircraft to ukraine, poland announced four measures of all of them in poland, a dozen. the spokesman of the air force command of the armed forces of ukraine, yuriy ignat, previously commented on this in such a way that it moved the transfer of combat aircraft to ukraine, but much will depend on the what is the condition of these planes, will it be possible to use them actively in combat or just dismantle them for donor spare parts for ukrainian e-e for ukrainian planes at the same time, according to him
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, they are morally and physically outdated planes and ukraine needs more advanced western f-16s , and we are in touch with avi expert kostyantyn krivolap. i welcome you on the air. this is how outdated the mig e-e 29 is and how exactly they are inferior to the f-16s, which the ukrainian army wants so much and i find it funny. congratulations to everyone eh what could-29 what i am at 16, these are the same people , they were born alone from the early 70s to the 80s, they had different fates. on the 29th
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, the soviet union collapsed and he continued to live as he could survive and he is alone he is so lonely you understand and f16 he got a good good world i live in boston there near boston on the outskirts and uh they give their fortieth anniversary which is almost now yes she left with different results f-16 block 70 or 72 this is an almost modern machine, it had a what could it be inferior to in something, i don’t even know who it is a platform that combines everything from space to satellites to almost an infantryman who is on the field and the mig-29 is the same as he gave such an aircraft , but what poland and slovakia give us this
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modern machines, they do not really enter the f16. well, it can almost be there in terms of combat load, and in general, this is what you chose, will you do it, or in six months, in a year , the f16, or now in place, the mig 29, which does the same thing that the f16 does, because they carry the same missile, a missile package, this is the main thing: what is it fired with, how far does it see, how far does it insert, this is the main thing, but what kind of weapons can they carry, that is, such weapons can be carried by mig-29, so what should be done there now, and they are making a folder in poland, slovakia, this those missiles are added to may 25 what amroms are needed, it’s flying missiles for the jedi, it’s harma, they’ve already set up everything well. the main thing is that our mig-29, armed with modern missiles, can shoot farther than
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russian missiles . it’s not very difficult. on the ground itself, in fact, you need to shoot further so as to drive away the eyes . s300 so that they can't get to kharkiv, er, so that they can't get to mykolaiv, and er, soviet and russian mussels and dried ones don't fly into our space anymore . we already have a very strong anti-aircraft defense system. ukrainian anti-aircraft defense, because now the basis of the ukrainian military defense system is anti-aircraft missile systems, not fighter jets. i will tell you that in the first months of the war , in general, they could only count on the mig-29 , because they were the ones who shot down cruise missiles . now they are also flying now.
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the increase there on this one is 17 units . by the way , they say this is almost one and a half times the increase of our military er air force. of western partners, kyiv above all wants them to act faster. delays in the supply of western weapons are costing the lives of ukrainians on the front line. foreign minister dmytro kuleba said this in an interview with the bbc, and regarding the battles for bakhmut, the minister explained why the ukrainian military is defending the city with large bakhmuts. challenge me. protecting bakhmut emotional is very difficult because for the people of death the loss of human lives in the destruction is a heavy emotional burden in himan lite and destruction refurity from bakhmut that we retreat from
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bakhmut the next will be a time of the abyss if we let's leave some time, the next spring will be sloviansk - this is a great effort to save those with bakhmut who have the same fate that bakhmut suffers from postponed for one day it means that someone will die on the front line it means that someone who could still be alive will die and a square meter of land will be lost lost is britain doing enough and fast enough britain is helping very well but i will say that enough is enough when we win the war, this applies to everyone from the united states to the united kingdom and other countries of the world. when do you think ukraine
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will have enough weapons and equipment to launch a counterattack ? enough armament, but we will provide a critical mass of weapons and equipment necessary to go into the counteroffensive, when we win, then all words of thanks will be said and all conclusions will be drawn about those who are bad behaved during the war and treated ukraine badly sounds like a warning and even you know that war allows you to be frank even if you are the minister of foreign affairs, of course if anyone in the world thinks that this or that
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country behaved or treated ukraine in the darkest moment in its history will not be taken into account when building future relations, then these people simply do not know how diplomacy works . he comes with the intention of becoming a mediator of peace or arming russia, so amrasha ah, i don't think that china has now reached the moment to be ready to arm russia . i also don't think that the result of this visit will be peace - it's a visit somewhere uoy zald impis on your
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i think this war will end at the negotiating table or on the battlefield, any war ends at the negotiating table, because in the end, paper and signatures are on the table, but my goal as the minister of foreign affairs is to make sure that ukraine sits down at the negotiating table after a decisive success on the field we have to win the battle and we will win, the only question is time and the price we will pay for it, the better i will not be with you timeline and price where are yours well, this interview with the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine was recorded even before the international the criminal court in gazi issued international warrants for the arrest of the president of russia vladimir putin and the russian children's ombudsman, they are accused of illegally deporting children from the territory of the occupied territory of ukraine, what
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