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volume of ointment 100 grams , congratulations, friends, a beautiful screen saver was just behind us, well, please repeat, we like it so much when it's mykola veresen and this vitaly portnikov is written about putin, who has to sit down. we talked with mykola before the broadcast so that later it was just some idiot because in fact the international criminal court could spend 10 years looking for what exactly he was personally responsible for buch and where is the evidence that he himself gave the orders here he himself appears in front of the television

cameras, well done. i want to eat them under er nuts, you know the height , well, that is, it is just that you do not understand the realities of legal matters, but the truth is, mykola, it is strange . well, i think that he has some kind of sinusoidal in general, he sometimes says some things. he always says things madly, but sometimes you can somehow understand them. and there are such things . a child can understand them because he lives in his reality. here he is simply pretending. he has the impression that someone called him from the international and said to the court, listen, there is something in us, there is no reason to imprison you, do something, he yes, give me this girl who takes care of the children and has already talked about that bag of treasures for herself . i really like this girl because you know with the confidence of a sadist, she says oh they finally appreciated our work, how do you take great care of the children? i am so pleased, oh, all of them, it won’t all start, it won’t end tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, and it’s interesting that the other one, well, putin is a 70-year-old man, relatively speaking. well, really, no one can

betray him there he will die there by his own death and the girl is so early or any russian president you go to right from the plane and there will be one standing there only with a different chevron here someone there with a polish or english or american one o so you come to us please in butsegarh is not even in this a dish or how to establish relations with the west, what were they? for you, there are no problems , that is, i betrayed this love , yes, it will be and it will be. if it will be a fascist government, but if it is necessary to remove the sanctions, this russian government itself, maybe we will give you this aunt and you will be lifted half of the sanctions somewhere there, and we, oh, you come and we will give your family a pension in general. you will be there forever for 15 years, and we will get it through lawyers translated

in general, he is sitting somewhere under house arrest, a good place. well, what and then? well, he died there in the cell from a heart attack, because there are such troubles for witches, which is part of the fairy tale. i absolutely agree with vitaly . the issue here is not that they will or will not. serbia is terrible i didn't want to give out , let's all serbia, not the political elite of the political elite in the first place no, i didn't want to , all of serbia well, 90%. well, then 55%. i didn't want to, but they set such conditions that you want , yes, you want the european union, you want a good one relations, you want the right country , you want money, you want good things, then you need everything, and they take it gently, give us the loot, let's listen to pyotr hoffmannsky, this is the president of the international criminal court, who just said about why this court made such a decision, well, i would say it's a strange decision, why is it strange

that usually they go from below to the mountain, well conditionally , very conditionally, yes, something lieutenant, captain, major , lieutenant colonel, colonel, general, marshal, and the president means gradually, and here the president , when the president is the lieutenant colonel himself, i guess they they skipped so because of what holidays and now they started with the president, now they will go down marshal general-colonel and further on let's give petro huspanskiy the president of the international criminal court please nevertheless taking into account that the behavior that is being discussed in this situation is likely to continue and that awareness informing the public about warrants can contribute to the prevention of further crimes, the chamber believes that it is in the interests of justice to authorize the secretariat to publicize the presence of warrants, the names

of the suspects, the crimes for which the warrants were issued and the measures of responsibility are established by the chamber, that is, the idea is that they, well, it is definitely a naive idea. sentimental, what if we announce it, they don't always announce it - they announce it immediately . criminals, maybe he is in front of well, it's not that he will change his mind about bombing, but he will bomb 3% less, think about his fate, yes, that is, not 50 rocket launchers, let's go 45 km , but today there is already a statement from the representative of the general secret service. and you are already asking the general steron to meet with putin, he says well, he will meet with everyone with whom it is necessary to make a decision but can he guarantee his participation in the organization's activities on the territory of the rome statute countries, well, it is not possible problem problem problem i can meet with him, but not where he can be arrested well, i i think that he will now be very afraid of many countries, even those that did not sign the roman statute, which, by the way

, was not ratified by ukraine and the united states. america, some countries of asia, for some reason, some countries of africa, for some reason, they call it asia. i have the impression that few people have signed it. i have the same impression . well, let's move on to domestic affairs. it is clear that it can be combined roman svitan, military expert, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine in the reserve, military pilot , instructor and oleksandr kovalenko , military-political gadyach group , information resistance, everything is with us, our dear guests, thank you for finding time for us in the evening, almost at night on friday, but it's important, it's an important conversation and important for i think it's a very good expert and mr. roman first of all to you today, just there a few hours ago there was an attack by the russians on

bakh from three sides. we are holding out there more or less because it seems that this is really the apogee of the situation around bakhmut. and i pray for i personally pray that this will be a turning point when the already exhausted russians will reduce the pressure and we will begin seriously preparing for a counteroffensive which will turn into, i hope, an offensive, please . i think the russians will put pressure on bakhmut as long as there is no smog. it won't decrease, it won't increase, maybe it's because they rested on three lines of defense, powerful lines turning from the east -

this is the bakhmut river . how come to me? such is not a bad suite, eh, russia, they cannot approach the highway from konstantinovka to bakhmutana, and also from the south-southeast, it is not possible to approach it on almost flat terrain , it is well shot, eh, sever covers the center of the city, sever covers the border, eh, yes we call it a very large industrial zone, the so-called artemovsky plant for the processing of non-ferrous metals, there is a month to the level of the underground, including that we are holding the line of defense of the center of the city center on three sides, they will be there it will be fought as when

it was fought in a certain line of defense , it will be fought until it is not, therefore, the weakening of it will definitely not shine. already skidding due to the fact that the pokhmutsky organism well, they are afraid to advance further, as a blow from the flank can cut off the head of a column that is trying to move on the slavyansk eh, therefore, eh, the question is solved in the sense of stopping the tochinsky eh, movement the movement of the entry into force is coming and going, and we will stop the same movement with these rough defenses in the bakhmut district , mr. oleksandr, since you are, after all , a military and political observer, the important word here is political, and i will direct it to politics in this way. well, let's imagine a good result the situation under bakhmut and around that ukrainian weapons are standing and

will at least stop the russian ones, that is , there will be no successes of the russian army there, how can this play out on the internal situation of mr. putin is more precisely, he is not papi. they can now easily call him the suspect putin. from the suspect putin. how can this affect the political situation around him? this is a big problem for putin. why? because this very city was viewed as such a great attention to the patriotic victory and the first step to reaching the administrative borders of the donetsk region as they promised well, in fact, there were even plans, even yevgeny prigozhin promised putin that by the end of 2022 there would be a solution

to the issue, but nothing happened therefore, this is a rather serious reputational blow for today, and near bakhmut, a large number of forces and means are concentrated , and a large amount of material and technical support is constantly sent by this unit, and in fact, all attention is focused only on the bakhmut bridgehead. and at the same time, they start already suffering, for example , the left-bank kherson region, their russian grouping in the zaporizhzhia region is organized and they are not up to they do not have a full- fledged staff, they do not receive the necessary support why because everything uh most of them are sent to this location, if there is no victory there, there is no capture , then of course it will be quite serious , the identification of the guilty party among the

russian command, that is, if we are talking about putin himself, then today he is not are found still in the same state. when all the claims will be against him , the claims will be against gerasa, on the basis of which igor gorkyna was included , yevgeny prigozhin and others will be included there. who will constantly criticize and accuse of the ministry of defense may even start a search for this, and it arose directly before bringing to some kind of criminal responsibility, although putin is not the kind of person who likes to demonstratively arrange some internal internal departmental battles . in the bell and so on, so uh , they can even use some informational excuse to cover their fiasco

near the bahmut, if this will happen , informational ghosts may be a lot of guests , they recently attacked mq9-ripper the american hpv and this is such a temporary cheer-victory for them to distract attention from the lack of victories in the combat zone. and they can also distract attention from the events of some kind of destabilization even outside the borders of the russian federation. again, moldova , the issue of moldova can be an issue georgia may have some other, uh, already a platform for destabilization, i have more questions to mr. roman and to mr. oleksandr , but it’s just that i’m here, you know, like sigmund freud, i’m already asking questions, i hope that you will correspond stylistically to sigmund’s stylistics

freud, i'm just trying to understand what conversations are going on at the highest levels of the russian government, mr. roman was in the army, maybe he remembers the soviet army, maybe the books he read, putin can't trust anyone , that's what i just learned from your words and prigozhin does not bring victory and what does not bring him victory and gerasim does not bring victory and no one brings victory, and understanding putin, such a person is complex, so how does all this talk happen on the mountain there? well, he does not talk to them, they are alone they hate each other. well, i wonder if they drink vodka together. i just don't know, but i'm trying. like the military, and i think i 'd even say the soviet military, because i think they're in the heads, they have a council , the soviet army or something. in the 45th year, victorious, what is going on in interpersonal

relations, do they at least greet each other or do they just grind their teeth a little and want to eat each other, well, how is it, it’s a huge russian army, it’s a huge machination, how about us she was not treated there there is provision, there is transport, there is logistics. there are people , hundreds of thousands, millions of people, they need someone to lead. councils system and fools its russian system is the cruelest system of a-a vertical control, that is, there is such a pyramid that is to one person and this one person is a-a revolutions

now this sheigu he performs certain tasks and without repairs a certain team, and then the whole machine turns around and performs these actions, i will repeat it again, vertical control is rigid literally to the junior commander of the sheik . he contacts putin, he receives political level commands from him. further , his political commands are translated already by the minister of defense and re-practiced so or the headquarters, which is the chief of staff, that is , there is a certain round table of the chief of staffs, which already carries out this command of the cpc here is such a sheikh, such a person will transmit such a person between putin and the entire management system of the army . the army itself is a machine

. it really goes, it goes in the direction where they are deployed, the question is, can you stop it there because of a lack of fuel, let’s say, because the wheel will break, but it won’t stop because of internal reasons, the system itself, the whole system, this is the pyramid she is herself by the way, here can be how to arrive, just one of the ways out of the situation into which putin has driven the army, where about that ar by itself, it is still tied to a certain relationship after already serving, that is, to certain the payment of gratuities there to military pensioners is a whole large complex and a large organism that can eventually put pressure on the leadership and the military leadership that can make a decision not to submit to such a political adventure into

which the army was drawn when it comes to the military understanding that their country is collapsing and they will be without pensions, gratuity, that is, they will remain simply broke , how can the military make a decision just to change this situation and, uh, can take power, so to speak, in our own hands, we will get such black colonels, the truth is, more than once generals of the weather, oleksandr, look at the words of romanov. it follows that, otherwise, i can’t translate it, that it is putin who says the word bakhmut. well, it’s a military one, if i imagine it that way. if it was a purely military problem, then maybe there are many others, god forbid. that's how to talk about geographic names in ukraine. go 40 km there and 10 people stopped in bakhmut in may and are still standing there in the summer , so probably putin says we need to hold

on, we need to advance there, or someone is feeding him there. doomed if such a system of coordinates. to the heads of the top political top military leadership, it means that they cannot change. and if they cannot change, then they are doomed. they decide to continue fighting in 1945. i spoke with experts and will tell the audience in the first they were not on the defensive in 1943. i don’t, i can’t imagine whether they know how to defend themselves if the ukrainian troops go on the offensive in 1943 on the kursk arc, the first part of the kursk duids is the last time they defended themselves against the germans, and then they they have reached berlin, that is, they can only attack, let's say, they know how to do so conditionally, oleksandr

, i'm sorry. well, only about what languages ​​they can attack, and about defense. no matter how they establish and we understand that well, they have lost some experience, but in general , it is possible that at first it was exclusively a propaganda element, that is , the very beginning. it has already become such a fetish because so much resources have been concentrated and spent precisely on these offensive actions during this time. well, then change the tactics, change

the direction of movement, and let this bakhmut and all no, they can't afford it even if it was tactical this and even if it was strategic it was right they won't do it just because it's already a more political decision it's a face and in general if we talk about some kind of decision-making system then there is no decision-making system in place at all, and it is not being implemented . they are all ah-ah, everything happens according to the hierarchy, who is the most important according to the hierarchy? after all, there is no need to bang, maybe we will go in another direction . so, after all, it was decided that no, we need to push. so, that is why they continue to pressure her, and regarding adaptation in general, their changes, well, i hope, then i

will remind you that the same battle orders of those rebellions that are with which the russian occupiers entered at the beginning of the full-scale invasion in the 22nd year, and the same tactics, the same methods, again , the same procedures that were used later when forcing the northern donets and now that i was recently observed near the coal mine the battle formations and columns themselves do not change. they do not adapt, they do not gain experience, but they cannot use it sufficiently in order to qualitatively change any of their actions. so this is the russian army, so it is not surprising that they continue to fight, mr. roman, the last thing the question is literally a minute. i'm sorry that we dragged it out a little. it's my fault. this story with the american drone on the black sea and the russian su-27s that

tried to somehow destroy it or let it go or bring it down. what was it at all? how is it possible? to evaluate these actions of the americans and these actions of the russians, but please don't take too long, sorry, this is an attack on the destruction of a lethal device without the use of regular means of destruction, we will destroy the time when telephones are growing in moscow, we will just work out the attacks. eh will destroy the plane or the drone will pass by it and eh or by dumping fuel or reactivity with the jet, just throw it off , it will fall into the jet, it will be collected on the wing, because it was a specific attack on the honor of the drone, and the drone was destroyed just like that

method, another question, this means that they were still afraid to shoot, that is, they pretended that we did not shoot , so there is no reason for any stronger reaction of the united states. it was impossible to present er hit in the jet can be considered as hooliganism er nevertheless the task is being performed, that is, it is one of the mechanisms for performing the task of a combat task, but under the cover of hybrid warfare they carry razors everywhere

, this is a hybrid execution of the attack . thank you to roman svitan, a military expert, a colonel of the armed forces from the reserve, and oleksandr kovalenko, a military-political councilor of the information resistance group. from the third to the sixth year as the director of the eurasia center of the atlantic council this is john gerb if we see him now good evening good evening congratulations good health let's let's probably start with this sensational collision of su-27 planes with an american drone, they say that the russians have crossed another red line , why did they do it, how do you imagine washington's further reaction to this? can i speak in russian or ukrainian? everything will be fine for me on russian history with drone planes and understand why the russians once again crossed the same red line, and what kind of reaction should there be from the american leadership, that it will generally

follow these things, that we see that there are demands here is to montanize the international air space, the international sea waters are already becoming rules, this is a very interesting incident, of course, russia does not like all of our unmanned aircraft near the battlefield. well, as we all know, this drone was uh, international airspace. no, not even russian, not even russian territory. it is necessary to the ukrainian territory, oh and ani , they destroyed this road, and from the administration of baden, because i said to me, strong for yours , weak, powerful, good, good, very

important, that they immediately sent another drone and in that region to show the brains that they can't and will demoralize us arts of such an action well, at the same time, it 's not good, and the gavrs have said more than once that they don't want any deviation when in fact there was an escalation to the the russian side is also already in this situation max moscow officially declared that they did not do anything but at the same time russian

observers by some observer, russia didn't want darts for us, but they teach us a joke. well, after all, they didn't try because of her, the officer and the knight say to the world, look at what we're doing against america and mr. ambassador, but what can this game lead to, but how much eh how pahamskiy, how brazenly can the kremlin behave, and not expecting some kind of tougher reaction from washington, well, sorry, and i talk about this quite often, we will see that the general policy of washington will be adequate

for the moment. yes, precisely as a result of our aid to ukraine crimea cannot be won. come on, wait, what is important to you, the administration is quite a year behind this chrysanthemum , and we know that we are sending you weapons, they are handing over the equipment that you especially need, and we know that because the administration is falling, that crane is declaring what is menstruation it's done after i'm all that's needed because they are afraid and the world is fighting a war, so