[000:00:00;00] for the moment yes, it is precisely as a result of our help that ukraine cannot do without the cream. let me tell you that this domestic administration is enough for this crisis . we know that we are sending you weapons . i declare that the menses are ready after i everything is necessary because they are afraid and the networks

are measuring the war, which means that no, a little bit , it subordinates american interests to putin’s bluff grab as soon as it is possible to use it of nuclear weapons, well, if you are the director of the eurasian center in the atlantic council, then the question is ringing all over the world: what do you expect from the visit of the chinese leader to moscow, what can you expect from china - about the possible talks of the chinese leader with the ukrainian liner and a possible meeting with the american leader, boss communists of china, what do you expect from this long story that begins literally the day after tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, with the visit

of zemfir to moscow? politics in this water, first of all, the chinese , the time of couples, artyurasy. europe and for their a-a support for russia, today they do not say that

they support russia, they are not for the violation of rights in territorial integrity, and they are ready to send weapons to russia, but at the same time there will be a volgyt and it will be made not only from moscow, what point you are a stick for russia to live a whole moment and that's what he calls china's world plan, return to the russian game, they also serve the russian materialist, not the ukrainian interest and not the interiority of the international community, and still do everything to help puti

. will be able to actively help putin, then it will be like this and this will be as in words, we are friends of mr. putin, we will develop some projects , but we will not give weapons, and we will not develop projects very strongly either let's be so careful, we know that china is buying, and i have a high russian russian , and i think that it is a help for russia, and i also think that his plan is for russia about the war . therefore,

it can get wet. i believe that the planks are chinese, and everything is pleasant for us, for russia, and we are ready now to go to a -a ceasefire on the spot. and this would be a problem for ukraine and for the request to explain why a-a is so similar o-o such a solution even today, let's not serve the interest and even in this case, can you trust me? what kind of support do you have? how many european countries are also in favor of this plan

? and tell me. on such a scale, and so on, you see , not only mr. trump - this is already another leading potential candidate for the post of president, this from the publicist of the audience's speech affects our politics возвращение the russian war against ukraine, and what he said, for example, that this war is only about territory and there is no life and american tresses, let’s go to war oh-oh-oh really, so their words are soft

in my sense he says as if ah support even support for ukraine he has this support i will introduce and he understands that it would be bad if putin won in this water and i don’t know, it’s crazy to me that many republican republicans returned to speak against him and that’s not the end of his policy of evangelization of this wars, john, look here, uh, many people in ukraine say that the republicans, on the contrary, are more, more, more perverted, and they like hard policy in relation to

russia . let's take a look at russia, let's do something good, let's do it, but actually republican politics. but this is human rights , they talked about it all. reagan is active with foreign policy. how was bush jr. that we will go into iraq and we will go into afghanistan and we are not sorry, on september 11, everything will change to something good for ukraine. what do you think if the republicans win the next election? there are many elements here. by force of arms, the foreign policy

of america and today the most intelligent officials in our country regarding the russian invasion, i am not a republican senators, for example, jones and others, because they criticize the administration for their timidity, the message to ukraine, for example, and between the thugs and i understand that, well, this is the first lopez, the second element, and the foreign policy of america in the middle east was a failure, and many republicans and monogye democratic politicians came up with this very

policy, and not only the non-monolegs, and among them, they recognized their expectations. and now we will come to this element, and the americans who support this in international affairs understand the failure of american policy in the middle east, and i am not yet that is why i do not know whether to trust all the politicians who led this politics and there is 4 element and no because they are not the most well-versed in international politics, i think that today with the politics of

the administration of baden they like the politics of the american and younger poland and obama in the middle east so that our politics in iraq and afghanistan are a successful mace because in our case, there were no partners and allies in ukraine , but in the situations - everything is different and ancient, we need to send american soldiers, soldiers to ukraine, so that ukraine will win, we

only need to send american weapons european rifle ah, if you help and then the last element of danger in the near future, we had a real but one to such an extent as the dangers of american and vital interests in europe now, the taliban , or even business, they are not dangerous opponents like the russians, they did not have any weapons. i think they have weapons we did not command the army, and we know that putin’s intentions are not to take over the entire territory of the former soviet union, and this includes only ukraine, not only the georgians of lyna udavyu, but also the baltic states, this

includes the three nato countries, our allies and let's stick to me again as they don't understand how much in principle you think the internal discussion in the republican party can help to find some kind of mutual understanding with the democrats and maybe with the society, because we always talked about the support of ukraine within the two parties there are also quite a few americans who are ready to paint the head of the republican military in the senate and not talk about other things

. which is against our help for ukraine, and even if your policy feels equal, it means that americans are not all, well, there can be 75% of americans .

objects to show the american people that they could hear everything, time, well, alas , in my opinion, biden has too many problems, and he has his own battle . to speak together exactly and declared to the american people their general approach to the crisis thank you very much jongers american diplomat пятый extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador to the united states in ukraine from the third to 6 years director of the eurasia center in the atlantic council and we already have just we talked about the near east igor tsymvelos, director of the center

for middle eastern studies. good evening, well, let's try to continue the topic, everyone, dvinkina. i think it's the most important thing, why not ? about far agree so leave yes yes what can be said which or well how to say what will end this long visit and long talks with putin maybe zelensky maybe found maybe some more european countries will be added that china wants something xixinfen wants what is the goal - this is what he wants from all of us from americans, ukrainians, russians, europeans, that's it, for about three hours, answers well, it seems to me that sinzen-pin has decided to become a world leader and

is promoting china as the second pole, and at least the chinese newspapers are talking about it let's say with mass media, which can be used in other countries, which can be connected in one way or another with chinese support, that is, and what kind of informational support, informational support for this desire is already quite clearly traceable and the essence of everything, well, at least as of now the chinese have seen a chance to represent themselves as best as possible, because all other leaders, other forces, other politicians are unable to talk to putin, and many people in the countries of the south, this is the global

south, are sending signals that it would be good have a second, a second policy which could slightly switch the discussion from the war in ukraine to global problems to the problems of poverty, as others have recently stated about this and many other things, that is, in fact, in china, they felt that there is an audience that is ready to listen, and uh, this is a unique chance for it is necessary to take advantage of how correct their calculation is, how well january pin, uh, correctly calculated the circumstances, well, the future will show, i think that after the decision of the criminal court in the gas of the cysinfins, it will really be much more difficult

to work with putin, and in order for the actual no promote the one to which he is planning. and at least he wants to achieve the same thing that tamertugans and other uh, well, gentlemen who act as mediators, you know , sit at the negotiating table, start to stop the war, and then continue the process without end and edge and tell me what happened in beijing when these wounds were negotiated with saudi arabia, this is not part of this plan, therefore , the globalization of china and efforts to undermine the influence of the united states in the state, because the region of influence is traditional for washington . well, i would say that uh arabic-speaking e-e according to mass media

and in general, this is the point of view of those oriented towards the middle east. and here i would like to say that it is possible that they take wishful thinking for real. well, at least the americans reacted to this agreement, well, let's say so coolly, but quite skeptically, because as they say, good luck to you that we all perfectly understand that the relations between saudi arabia and iran are only economic interests and early and china with the help of which he is actually going to unite these two countries there are serious ideological differences between them and contradictions and conflict zones that have not gone anywhere, in the end, we can talk about previous experience, well, there were diplomatic relations until the 16th year, since then relations between iran and saudi arabia have not become better, just as recently , there was approximately the same story between

saudi arabia arabia by boat. well, we saw that it was all over. well, but and actually , the parties still stood by theirs and continue to criticize each other using global channels, because they are ziruly , that is, in other words, i will make a deal for now i consider it only as such a proposal that obviously er has a meaning to it, there is a heart to look seriously a-a as the beginning of an obviously global company of china as the formation of the obvious er process of china's globalization, the formation of the alliance because, pay attention, china has never been noticed before among the countries that sought to form alliances, it is quite self

-sufficient, it is quite a self-sufficient country and is mostly surrounded by enemies, and so little has changed in this situation . it is possible that there will be some further actions , maybe no. maybe this will be the end and the chinese will hide in their house again , as it was for many years, here i have a question , igor, they were always careful here. i absolutely agree that the whole policy of china is to to accumulate potential within themselves, money, relationships, but it seems that they do not have the experience suitable for such people, even this famous one belt, one path that they told for 10 years. i would not say

that it ended with such a total success somewhere there is a little success and somewhere they are not and somewhere in djibouti they set up a base there is something else there but to say that they have become a full-fledged full-blooded world player, but i can’t i see i see such very careful steps oh well what happened iran saudi arabia let’s give ourselves a plus well it didn't work out that way. that is, i don't see china now as a real player commensurate with america or europe, or even with japan, which has constantly tried to develop such relations. what do you think about the panel? well, you know, after reading a certain number of analytical articles on this matter , there are not many opinions , that is, this is the end of the american-centric world and everything else that is sold now as

analytics in the middle east well, i got the impression that this is really more desirable than real, yes. that is, everyone was so enamored with the fact that the americans did not sell this contract to the saudis, or let's say the agreement with iran. an iranian did it well, in the end, let's say this. and this agreement was prepared for a long time and there was a whole series of rounds of negotiations between the saudis and the iranians, and that is, they have been trying to settle their relations for at least the last three years because it is dangerous and the circumstances are really such that the saudis are not completely sure of the american umbrella , although, well, let's say so, biden still leaves this option , but china, china, a chinese

umbrella, or a chinese proposal is pouring money into partners with an absolutely incomprehensible result, because what will happen next then the chinese will come there who will extract oil, then there will be a body of whole colonies, the chinese may know how the chinese work in africa or in other countries, they are either in belarus or in others. and integration processes do not take place. that is, it is such a machine for calling money and resources, etc. for the sake of the big city of the future city of muhammad bisalman's dreams. well, it seems to me that there are many questions here, so to speak, if our iranian well, let's say that the iranians are not our friends, unfortunately, but our saudi friends, if

they believe that the chinese will bring them the desired protection and security in the region, then this will not happen. well, the chinese will still have to cross the strait of malacca, and the strait of malacca is under the control of the united states of america by the way, if we talk about the fact that china, on the one hand, wants to be a mediator in the war, so neutral in the middle, on the other hand, it conducts joint exercises in the wounds of russia in the gulf of oman , before that there were joint exercises, what is this neutrality is such, well, what kind of neutrality is this, it is a demonstration of your position, and the position is quite obvious, and i would say that well, okay, and it’s not that everyone plays and pretends that they are gender men, and

there are countries that dissatisfied with american dominance, who wanted to get rid of the american pact, and they all hide their desires behind such talk about anti-collegialism, although the same china in principle conducts absolutely normal. it is a realistic colonial policy in africa. and as they say, hello for this thank you. the same applies to some other countries that are already in their 20s, but they all speculate on anti-quanism and anti-those sentiments and they believe that this will become their ticket to this global south that they can eventually unite against the west and the west is finally weakened because they have lost strength and energy they are too obsessed with human rights and thus can no longer

dominate this and i repeat once again this is their logic this is their idea of ​​the world and they want it these are authoritarian regimes which they seek dominance, the last question is not about china at all, but on the contrary about iran , it means just such a question. well, both simple and difficult . i would say. well, they probably won't, they won't, because it's hard to believe and it's hard to imagine that in this situation, the americans, the israelis , are launching a new round of war in the middle east from a country of 80 million people, but, but, hmm. i would

say that the united states of america are preparing for a possible attack by iran on the territory of israel, this is a fact, and this means that like every military, they have all the plans on the table, including a plan for a possible attack on the territory of the ram, that is, it is possible now, as of now, here let's consider the dynamics as of now it is almost impossible, but god knows what will happen in a few weeks or a year , well, that is, it is not just some kind of desire, but i just read that there is enriched uranium of such a percentage, the enriched council of such a percentage, then medium rockets range and so on, some such low information shows that uh, how is it in the russian language, not the time zone, they will have nuclear and

delivery, and israel will be nearby, and israel will not wait, as he has said 100 times so far, that we should wait until they do everything and and they will throw us on our heads, we won't, we can bomb all these er-e finishing er-e factories that make various weapons there , including nuclear ones. well , let's put it this way , let me. in the 12th year, that's actually all that's all this whole story goes back to the 12th year and he constantly repeats about missiles and nuclear weapons and tries to form an anti-helan coalition, it doesn’t work out very well for him under obama and under trump and pribaiden , that is, the israelis still have problems with presenting their positions and i think that