tv [untitled] March 18, 2023 9:30am-10:01am EET
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er, we know and it is stated that the er submission for the er adoption of the arrest warrant was made by the prosecutor of the international criminal court and he himself noted this in his statement on february 22, 2023 , after the appropriate evidentiary material had been collected in order to assert that there was a violation of two paragraphs of article 8 of the rome statute, the actual commission of war crimes, and it was proved in these submission materials that were considered by the judges of the international criminal court that russia deported ukrainian children and uh, it's uh constitutes an actual ee crime ee which is provided for ee
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in the same article defined and characterized of the rome statute it was proved that direct ee persons who ee should bear responsibility for committing this crime in the highest positions this is proper ee and maria lvova bilova, who is the representative of the plenipotentiary president of russia in matters of children and vladimir putin himself, who is the president of the russian federation from the very beginning of large-scale military operations on february 24, 2022 , the issue of protecting the most vulnerable sections of those who is under the care of those who are in detention facilities for children who
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do not have parents and in general the formation of evacuation corridors and the provision of these humanitarian evacuation rules was constantly under control, and we remember that russia completely neglected this, even intentionally creating difficult and terrible conditions, forcing, in fact, putting pressure on the population in the territories where the hostilities were taking place or were close to the actions that were taking place , actually in order to force them to go to the territory of the russian federation and russia created such a picture as if it is helping and saving these people from the horrors of the war, which it does not seem to have any direct relation to
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. -e with e-e displacement and replacement by replacing their identity with a substitute nationality and accordingly this happened e-e so much with a challenge and openly e-e through the adoption of the same decree of putin in may 2022 regarding simplifying the granting of russian citizenship to children who are taken out of the territory of ukraine. that is, you know, this is simply spitting on all existing norms and standards, and it is, in fact , a predatory policy, which was calculated so that no one would be able to react to it today's reaction day is an important moment, there is a less important aspect
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, usually the executors of criminal orders always tried to shift their responsibility for their guilt to the higher so-called superiors. this is how nazi criminals sinned, in particular trying to justify ourselves during the nuremberg tribunal, saying that it was not us, but the order was such a blurred collective responsibility, etc. and so on. this mandate will apply to this order and accordingly , to what extent this story will unfold in the space of time, because this is only the beginning absolutely and we are now in a chain of events that actually form a decade
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future world order and this decision a-a is actually decisively key because er-e this is the second decision in history regarding the acting president er-e regarding whom the rest of the order was issued by the international criminal court a-a but regarding the head of such a state well like russia for example it was difficult even 3-5 years ago to plan or predict that such a decision could be adopted .
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e-e commission of the special commission of the independent commission of the organization of the united e-nations organization for the investigation of crimes committed in ukraine and in this document, which is actually also an e-e important evidentiary material , a whole series of violations that reach the level of war crimes are defined, including what is said and about this aspect of the deportation of the children and the population, in particular, with an emphasis on the fact that these were children of the russian federation, and this crime clearly qualifies as a war crime , which can be, subject to proof, the same classified as a crime against humanity, which requires further investigation according to the members of this commission, and on the second day, a warrant appears, confirmed by the judges of the international criminal court, which also approves this one of the large submissions of a set of e-e violations committed by russia in matters of international humanitarian rights and
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it concerns only this one question, the question of the deportation of children regarding the number of children . 16,000 children who, to this day, are still in the status of undetermined fate , in general, when we talk about the number of displaced children, those who were taken out , those who went through the procedure of russian adoption, this is a figure that can be determined by a few thousand let's say how much it will be possible to accurately establish well, i don't know if it will be possible
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to establish it as precisely as possible because the situation is developing in the territory of the russian federation due to the fact that according to this e-e adoption procedures in court personal data changes, date of birth, name, surname, and the person actually disappears, dissolves with past personal data, a completely different person appears, and accordingly, if there is no access to those e-e sources of information where this e-e information can be accumulated, it is available on i don't even mean the judicial authorities, if it's some kind of investigative service, the same fsb, or there's some kind of president's office they have, who deals with it ? well, accordingly, this element will be lost so that it can be returned and played back, but we if we are talking about the number of such children who are already
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in this procedure or have undergone this procedure , then we can talk about the average number of 2-2.5 thousand children, but there is one element that i would like to draw your attention to the first - in most cases , this is not about adoption, but about transfer to so-called foster families. that is, children are actually transferred with the personal data that they have and they stay for some time in order for their fate to be determined in the future but this is also a wrong move because these children should and should be returned to ukraine because they are of ukrainian origin and they should be in ukraine. thank you oleksandr pavlichenko, executive director of the ukrainian helsinki union for human rights regarding the arrest in absentia imposed on vladimir putin and this situation has already commented the head of the international criminal court himself in gas and his name is petriv osmanskyi he is a pole by
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ethnic origin and this explains a lot in this decision so that he said the warrant for the arrest is not a magic wand, but it is a kind of sanction for the head of the kremlin regime, further quote cn he said this we believe in the deterrent effect of the arrest warrants issued in the course of our investigation and believe that this is a very important signal to the world that we are doing our job that the victims not forgotten are 123 states, two-thirds of the states of the world where he is, that is, putin will not be safe , emphasized trehmansky, he also explained that all participating states are legally obliged to fully cooperate with the sudom, this means that they must carry out arrests on the basis of warrants end of quotes issued by the court yes well, 9 years ago the russian federation occupied and illegally incorporated the autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol into its composition well, this decision was announced, this is criminal the decision was announced on march 18, that is, we have
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such sad anniversaries based on the results of the illegal yes the so-called liar and fake of what is not even called, the tongue does not return to call the word referendum well, it happened as it happened and now we are in touch larisa volohina nalistka glory to ukraine p larisa we congratulate you, congratulations, well, putin, in his er czech sound, so to speak, always uses the topic of fetakompli, i.e., of accomplished facts, he promotes this or that line of his , so to speak, trying to provide it with these or that worthless papers, and then he sculpts his trademark lying fake plebiscite or referendum, this is how it was in the history of crimea, this is how it was in the history of the pseudo inclusion of our temporarily occupied
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territories into the russian federation. history with crimea. what do you think, but privately, they now regret, in particular, it is about the citizens and the leadership of the russian federation , about this great crime that they committed nine years ago. i think so, because the very fact of this inclusion of the so-called is the result of a big great-power putin's arrogance, because if russia had left crimea in the status of a gray zone like transnistria or nagorno-karabakh, it would actually rule this territory, it would have achieved its goals by restraining ukraine on its way to the eu nato is on its way to a civilized education, and at the same time it could have every chance to avoid the sanctions, which, after all, uh, began precisely with
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kryvyi. i understand that the sanctions on crimea were declarative, that's right. but russia was recognized as an unconditionally hostile aggressor country and after that , the sanctions of przemyśl 17, all the other world sanctions, they were all already imposed on the russian federation as a country, and not on some conditional axionist konstantinovs or the government of the so-called self-proclaimed dpr of the lpr, that is, that russia was able to turn with international law on the example of other former soviet republics another very important point on which i agree with you is the imitation of the process and we saw that the crimean referendum has nothing to do with the will of the people because russia imitated the voting process, we do not know who
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voted at these so-called referendums , either there were russian citizens, there were many of them in crimea, or there were ukrainian citizens , that is, there are none, that is, there is a violation of the procedure , there is no voter list, who who were these people? it would be a vote at all, did you see that russian television showed us some queues to some urgs, listen. and how do we know, maybe he gave out a coupon for zucker there, why did we decide that it was an act of voting, maybe it is something else, that is, russia constantly imitates democratic procedures, it appeals to them but for example, in the so-called referendums in the occupied kherson, zaporizhzhya, donetsk, luhansk regions, we saw that there was some kind of remote voting, or even voting on the territory of the russian federation, almost in rostov region, and we decided that it will now be the residents of zaporizhzhia, that is, all this madness began in
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crimea. since their perception of their reality is now changing. did they manage to break out of the kremlin propaganda bubble, at least on a mental level? do they still believe that they are a part of the population, in particular those who were brought in, so that in everything is fine in crimea and according to the law, well, look. we have to distinguish between those who are in crimea , there are colonists, those who were brought in. that’s about a million people. imagine another million russian citizens added to the 2.5 million crimean population, well, these colonists plus crimea now. and this
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this is already the trend of recent times, russia is bringing in collaborators at a frantic pace, whom it is taking out of the newly occupied territories , who are being liberated by the ukrainian army . people are brought to crimea, they are not taken further to the territory of the russian federation, but in crimea . and we distribute certificates for land and apartments that will be given to them one day. then, after ukraine is defeated, that is, russia is actually forming in crimea those people who are tied to it, who are already smeared with ukrainian blood, ukrainian citizens who clearly understand that they are participants in military war crimes and these people, they expect that these people will somehow defend crimea, that they have nowhere to retreat because she is not going to take any brothers to her, plus there are definitely collaborators and
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again, they must also be distinguished, some of them are people who lived for nine years, paid taxes, maybe they even voted in some local elections, but they did not commit any war crimes, and now these people think why do i need this blood even now russia will leave, i will remain here as a criminal, and these people are now starting to leave their positions little by little , they don’t want to, they don’t want to cover themselves up, and they understand that russia will not get crimea and they don’t want to be punished later in ukraine, that is, those people who want to stay in crimea in any circumstances, there are people who are already criminals, these are those who, uh, joined the military army under a contract to the russian army, these are those who went to work for the fsb - these are those who, uh, were those, worked in a wonderful system, those people they definitely have a different motivation, they realize that they would not have reached the level of those collaborators in their crimes, for example in kharkiv region who gave lists or in kyiv region who gave
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lists of e-e veterans of the ato and understanding that they are shooting people and their families, but those people understand that they will not be forgiven and they they are looking for a way out, that is, in crimea, there is now a lot of turmoil, you know, and there is a whole bunch of people, it’s a heterogeneous system, and they and a bunch of people are trying to find a way out for themselves, where they can wear clothes, and there is definitely a huge number of pro-ukrainian citizens and ukrainian citizens who think, listen , this is ours the land, we are not going anywhere, you, er, you captured crimea, you cannot hold it, why should we suffer with you, they have ukrainian passports and we see these messages that people are now asking how to restore the ukrainian passport, because something already it must be for sure. that is, this is not a normal environment. i also wanted to conclude by asking ms. olsa about our responsibility. nine years have passed since the day of annexation, and we are still . well, why haven't we condemned sir aksyonov, the leader
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of the criminal group of the seimas, or natalya poklonska, these are all citizens of ukraine and we have a law on the conviction of crimes in absentia, judicial proceedings in absentia, and you know at least one court verdict that would have received an appropriate punishment in court for people who directly participated in the annexation of crimea and the occupation of crimea, even ukrainian citizens, i am not talking about citizens i am asking russia. well, i know the court sentences, but i don't think that it was an appropriate punishment, for example, let's remember that a few years ago, it seems to me, in the 18th year, there was a sentence like this, lady , put it down, this is a woman who, uh, was a party of regions activist, then in united russia who was directly putin's confidant, then already after the occupation of crimea , she directly participated and campaigned for this referendum, she organized it, she got to the ukrainian court, she was pregnant at the time and was sentenced to 4 years
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conditionally and released her from arrest, she got safely to crimea, that is, in principle, a high-level person who took part in the organization of an illegal referendum found herself free and returned to occupied crimea, and there are many such cases . i think that in fact the ukrainian state really does not did not fully use law enforcement and judicial mechanisms, which are not because the same child abductions began in crimea, there were three guardianship institutions , er, crimean children were under the care of the state and when crimea was occupied, i personally asked questions to the prosecutor's office of the autonomous republic, except for the representative in my kefir, and where are these children, where are they, and they told me that well , you know, we do not raise this issue, that is, there are also a lot of such things separately. i believe that
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we still need to investigate more carefully, because our task will come to the occupation of crimea so that as many people as possible are unwanted people for us, people whom we are going to punish and who will have no place in the liberated ukrainian crimea, so that they voluntarily leave crimea as a preventive measure, and we we should have these court sentences so that a person sitting in crimea knows that if she has to flee with the russian army and not sit and pretend that she is a ukrainian citizen , so that we can catch her later and somehow prove something our task is to be on the territory of crimea the remaining ukrainian citizens those who want to rebuild ukrainian lands thank you ms. larisa for this extremely important analysis of the situation in crimea larisa voloshina journalist well, we are moving on and now we are adding stepan berk to our marathon
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of the lawyer of the advocacy manager of the de jure foundation glory to ukraine p. stepane glory to the heroes i congratulate you, dear enemies, see next week the parliament will consider bill number 8359, which will allow not to record court sessions and which provides for the restriction of access to the court register for ordinary citizens, what do you think about the goal and purpose and the tasks of this draft law and what , in fact, what consequences will it have, please? well, these are two separate draft laws, and the authors of the draft laws claim that the purpose of these draft laws is actually to create on the one hand the possibility of administering justice in those territories where there are problems with the courts. for example, there is no possibility to technically record court sessions, and on the other hand , this is the bill that limits access to the register of court decisions, it is supposedly designed to protect sensitive information that may be
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of some state interest it is possible to use e-e against the interests of the national security of ukraine precisely so that our enemies cannot use this information a-a hmm i think that if the intentions of the authors of the draft laws were correct, then that in what way did they realize these intentions in the texts of the draft law, well, it completely nullifies all these good intentions, because in fact these norms will be able to be used by unscrupulous representatives of the judiciary, unscrupulous lawyers and participants in court proceedings who will somehow want to manipulate justice because in fact, it is allowed not to record court sessions in the minutes , to enter some information, then you can always make changes to the minutes, the same with the register of court decisions, eh, the strangest situation of this
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of the draft law is that the court hearings remain open, but the decisions made in these open court hearings will not be entered in the register of court judgments, that is, monokai or any of us as a free listener can appear at the court hearing to listen to him hear the decision but then he won't find it in the court register because actually there seems to be some kind of sensitive information, i.e. in my opinion , the problem with these laws is that they are completely disproportionate . i really hope that parliamentarians will not consider these draft laws next week, we will already receive certain signals that they are planned to be postponed, although it is obvious that this is not yet a final decision, but these draft laws will be harmful to the ukrainian justice system
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, mr. stepano. well, i still understand delicate court decisions that can catch something in the conditions of wartime wartime from the state of which maybe there you can limit access to them in the registry but photofixation excuse me, well, here is the phone, it costs well, there is 5,000 uah and it is fixing court well, just like an almost professional camera, what's the problem? in any court, anywhere, even in the conditions . there is no answer to this question, and i have to clarify here once again that it is about officially fixing the audio recording of the court session, that is, it is not about the fact that a person cannot record a court session on his camera, in every court there is special equipment that records the audio of the court session is actually about what to allow in certain cases
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to not record this audio i agree with you what uh well there may be a problem we have cases when uh in certain territories there are problems with the power supply accordingly this equipment may not work but it seems to me that the parliament can offer other ways in which uh , other ways that can allow recording of court sessions. you are right, for example , video recording by participants of a court session , why not recognize uh, this uh, if the tool as an additional auxiliary in cases when it is not possible to make an official record by the means available in the court, instead, it is proposed to enter the minutes of the court sessions , we used to do this dozens of years ago , this was the practice in the ukrainian courts, in the end it led to the fact that changes were made in the necessary cases in the minutes, uh, i explain when i apologize to the lordship when the secretary writes the minutes by hand and writes only
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the most important moments of the court session, in his opinion, correctly, that's right, that's right, eh in a word, the problem that she is trying to solve is the truth, because we talked with representatives of the judiciary, er, well, there is a situation when, for example, a court session is scheduled, but as a result or as a result of the shelling, there is no power supply and the parties are ready to conduct it, but there must be a record in my opinion, it is still in the interests of justice to introduce such a tool that will be the least risky from the point of view of later carrying out some manipulations , unfortunately, it is in this draft law that we are talking about let's say there is no such instrument, moreover, there are no cases written there that can be considered sufficient in order not to record a court session. it simply says that these are some justified circumstances and what exactly such justified circumstances are in each case must be decided by a judge and, unfortunately, unfortunately
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by unscrupulous judges - this can be written in order not to actually violate the law and then manipulate the court decision . thank you, sir, the analysis is excellent, although the situation is not very encouraging. the common sense of our people's deputies or cafes or any establishments in stores have a generator to ensure electricity supply, but in the official authorities, which we are courts, there is no electricity supply. stepan was in touch with us, the administrator, the advocacy manager of the de jure foundation. well, we invite you this time to support espresso journalists, you can become our sponsor on youtube or with patreon, the link you see now on the screen and in the description of this video, join our espresso community, you will get access to the backstage from the studio with the presenters, special live broadcasts with espresso editors, the opportunity to ask video questions, the opportunity to ask questions to espresso
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