[000:00:00;00] a huge amount of artillery and enemy armored vehicles , despite the active military actions that putin's soldiers every time commit. depends on logistics, if we get the same chain that connects the great earth with bahmut we will continue to keep this fortress city under control and continue to destroy enemies on this part of the front for optimism, we are finishing this part of the program vladyslav seleznyov, military expert, colonel of the armed forces, spokesperson of the general staff from the 14th to the 17th year. thank you, vladyslav, for finding time for us. well, now to america, because from america various interesting things like my

boyish mind informative reasons and about biden and about trump and about many people if we have oleksandr motil - historian, political scientist , professor at jaeger university in the united states, there is mr. oleksandr good health, mr. oleksandr, glad to hear from you see and thank you for finding time for us on saturday, look at how newspapers , american societies, american parties or party supporters reacted to this warrant for putin 's arrest. so that it can be added to some bashar or some milošević , but a huge nuclear country and the court does not start what i paid attention to, usually the court starts with

which executors, and here the court immediately went to the president, what was the reaction of america, surprise applause pouring in and applause what are they well there is biden, we know that i will tell you that it is all justified, but here are the newspapers that wrote it was it on the front pages of the newspapers or is it not news, so what, what is there about this, if so, what is the agenda and where are you it is difficult for me to say as such, because i mostly read universality and rather read ukrainian newspapers on different websites. so they bent there and you can see pasha , as he said, well, in general, people are caught off guard, no one expected such a thing , at least so quickly, after all, that’s what on a few months after these crimes were exposed, and here now

. if we were to ask not only what they are pulling, they are taking responsibility , some chest, some person in putin's regime , or putin himself, so that in general people are , i mean, i have an impression on the basis of those very minimal ones, so to say what impressions i still have that people in general have a positive attitude to this fact, of course there will be some who will say that this is a s--- it's a hoax of the west, it means venal people, let's say left-wing beliefs, who will talk about the fact that the international criminal court until now, well, it took a long time, so it fulfills the wishes of the west or the north, so to speak, but if we were to ask here , the most important fact is that this is the first time in its existence that this court, er, takes to court a person not from africa, because until now, it has always been africans from africa and

thus the court criticized many countries of the south , well, the south of the long-standing composition of the cock, if they did not call themselves the so-called former third world, that it is simply in horticulture that corresponds to the interests of the northern developed countries and on the basis of this, we see that it did not arise. well, it is possible that it happened in the past , or that in principle it has an extremely important effect . countries accused of this, at least the relations of a developed country means russia itself. and so, in general, this is very positive, and i think that if ukraine emphasizes everything in the future, it will have

even more support and maybe even among of the so-called global south or those until now, as you know, some of these countries are keeping quite aloof from this war eh well, about the forms they support ukraine , they are probably not neutral eh do they pro forma support russia, but in principle this global south should support ukraine, since ukraine is now participating in anti-colonial , anti-imperial wars and we are talking about the last great empire, so india pakistan south america well, of course, all african countries should actually be on our side, they of course not at all, because they still see it as a conflict between whites on the global, in the global north, whites against whites and to sneak up on the counter-list, all the more so america

is replaced in this by the biggest biggest empire, the biggest realistic capitalist representatives. and hmm, but here is an opportunity to show the world that there can also be criminals among the whites among the north among the developed countries, and this is sometimes talked about a little, i will move aside because you just used it the left, the left, if they were always criticizing there very often speak for russia and very often speak against america, even american left-wing american teachers, i do not mean you

, but everyone knows that there are many university teachers in america, they are such super leagues. think, well, you know, when there are open archives, when there is an archipelago, the gulag, i can understand why the show was for stalin, he knew nothing fathenger was for stalin, he was nothing, i can’t imagine because there is no radio and television there is no internet, there is no one, there is no everyone who is against prison or is already buried somewhere in the north and well, well, yes, a person comes and reads the truth and labor and and well and everything and there are no questions now when there is a lot of information , millions of information and everything one very big, well, relatively large, not very, but a relatively large number of left-wing people in european and american universities hate the united states so much that they are ready

to exchange the united states for russia, which is simply destroying modern russia worse than the late brezhnev, worse than androp and worse than chernenko, i would have lived then, i remember it's no no no no well, they gave me the first time, they didn't give me a deadline at all, they called the kgb and had a preventive interview, and here there is no prevention for 10 years. please go to prison . why? what else is needed for an explanation to to open the eyes of these people who still think that america is so bad that russia is better than america, well, you know, i would add to this one the radical correct one, because they have the same attitude towards america simply for other reasons, as you know, living even against america

because it is a bastion of capitalism, it goes without saying according to lenin, the great empire is the imperial state here, american capitalist and realism, and so on. well, you know this on the other hand, in relation to the right, they hate the fact that narika is open and democratic, and they are very, very characteristically enough to absorb us, so here lbtg , well, and so on. so on, so that each side has its own, so to speak, well , beliefs. i personally am convinced that there is nothing to talk about with them, fortunately for those radical beds , 10-15% of them rule radically and about 10-15%, well, i have mean in america though the truth this is also the case in europe, too. therefore, we are talking about the fact that approximately a quarter of the population is out of their mind

. you simply cannot talk to them on any rational basis. so here it is. this is how i am. the least sense and what makes sense is of course this middle, this moderate middle, these are people with less, more liberal views, less , more conservative views, they make up well, let's say 70-70% of each population, whether in america, canada or european countries in general, and with them you can you can convince them to talk either here or there. of course, because they are not ideologues , they are not people who are simply absolutely convinced of the rightness of their views, so you can't talk to him , and in second place - it's simultaneously with them, you can also talk to the youth. there are people, and i am saying this again on the basis of my own students, to a great extent. i would say that 95 percent, even more, do not have

formal political views. they are more or less of one or another view, well , they are inclined to liberalism or inclined to of conservatism but in my own experience i have not yet met a radical leftist or a radical rightist. well, maybe one, maybe two, and then we are going or already 30-40 years of teaching. so , you can talk to them and when you present them with the factors, present them with an analysis . of course it is you can't blame them, because every person, especially a young person. she then takes a break from what she thinks is blamed, and klim is to present , then they come to their own conclusions. in my courses, i always emphasize, well, you know if you want to be socialists, please, that is your right, but take into account what were the socialist countries that existed until 1989 or

1991. please look at the economic system of the soviet union of eastern europe, at the political system, and if you really like the way people live than the essence and what if i am a party dictatorship well then please well if you are less a more normal person then you probably won't like it i know i always mr. professor mentions even at the university in ukraine they don't know well a lot they know the author of this statement. and i still remember this is john savinby, this is exactly what all the african stories are about. and they asked him, he really was a leftist, very leftist, such a communist, and then he became an anti-communist, rebelled against the pro-communist government. and they asked him, he said this great phrase

when you are 20 years old and you are not a communist you have no heart, if you are 40 years old you are still a communist you have no head that's why when you are young you want equality, justice and all that and then you start to understand that you can't do that be or you can go to cuba you know 90 miles from the united states you can go to cuba through canada or through mexico go to cuba look at socialism and everything will be clear to you you don't need to go far here that's why for me students by example i eat them i don't eat them we are doing such and such an experiment, i say to them, please, let's create a perfectly equal society in which perfect equality is not perfect and very quickly they come to the conviction that this is a terrible society that no one would want to live in such a society because they are completely different perfect at the level of people, and well, it simply excludes any human freedoms. they will be so alert for you and development, and so on

. they don't need to speak. listen. this is bad and this is good. well, i think that communism under socialism, communism is a refuge for the least developed people, this is really for the proletariat. in the ancient roman sense, yes, that is, people who have absolutely nothing in them, they have no desires, and then they can be, and they have no political desires. they do not they need freedom, they need bread, maybe a spectacle , or maybe only bread, a spectacle, maybe they don’t need it. well, here it is just for them, take bread , eat bread, and you don’t need anything else, and everything and everything is fine, and for those who really don’t need anything

self-development what freedom of self-expression reading books analysis philosophy science well here it is not not for such people i think okay thank you very much i will now be with you from time to time if you allow us to have such more philosophical conversations because it is really for ukrainians i think it is very for many ukrainians it's all the same and why do the professors there love the soviet union and for them, after all, for many people, well, it's just yes, when did i mention north south korea cuba, what did i mention venezuela, which 30 years ago was like venezuela and now go to such a venezuela and you will see what is socialism, what is non-socialism, but the right-wing people do not bother me so much because the extreme right cannot be touched, yes, that is, lgbt is such a thing . well, what is it, well, well, here it is, socialism 90 miles from

america, here it is, there are streets, hospitals, shops, food cars, apartments , look at everything , and that's why i don't know. okay, thank you to oleksandr, the historian , political scientist, about fesar of the aegean university of the united states of america. so that you know and do not complain that there are not enough scientists in ukraine, there are no specialists in far eastern issues in ukraine, but there are such people , children, there is hunger, and now we will ask about it and start thank you for visiting thank you for being with us in saturday, but let's start with philosophy sooner than with such and such specifics, because we talked

with a professor from america . now we will talk with a scientist from ukraine . because of some, but from a very careful china, china is gradually turning into a not very me i still continue to think that china does not want to make sharp moves and will not make them . maybe he can use sharp words, but now he has started as before i imagined the chinese that is, we are developing here to such an extent that we have already been such a factor that it is impossible to ignore us . until that moment, we are quietly just getting rich , building up the armed forces, building up the economy, but we are silent

. well, we tried hong kong. still ugur well, somehow it seemed to pass, or am i right that now they have become more active and the chinese factor has become so tangible to the world in the global gamut of factors thank you for such a philosophical question and really politics china has become more determined. because it needs to defend itself, this is the main reason that chinese development is restrained, and they think that it is very unreasonable. they say that there should be competition, but competition is not for restraint. and for global progress, china also means , for example, to the united states of america as such a strategic competitor and the entire policy of deterrence, it is aimed precisely at the fact that chinese development remains a little more

restrained, not so technologically innovative, etc., that is, china is actually forced to defend itself and is building such a pole of its own influence and attracts such countries as russia and belarus in order to meet, let's say, those threats, external threats that prevent it from developing, but this external threat strongly affects such a patriotic spirit inside the country and it is such an important factor for the growth of chinese citizenship that acts positively for, let's say , the unity of the nation and for sisinpin, who has now entered his third term, this is also a very important factor, because he is now concentrating power in his hands, full of power and such

a reliable rear from its people in the parliament and so on. okay, is it possible to ask such a short question with a short answer? i have such a half-joking version of why china began to act . china has recently begun to act on the ukrainian-russian front, well , diplomatically, because of the earthquake in turkey and the main the negotiator, the president of turkey, erdoğan, took a very serious interest in the situation inside the country after the earthquake, since he also had elections and just a dislocation, there was a void, and china immediately entered this void, because if if you look at the chronology, everything started to happen very intensively after the beginning of february , just when there was an earthquake in china in turkey and the place became empty for those who wanted to join some negotiation processes between ukraine and russia, or am i very wrong here? i would not connect these events

because before china was repeatedly approached by our president during the past year, and yermak and the first lady handed over a letter in davos to the axis . china just opened up after covid . they had such a long lockdown and all international activities were curtailed and secondly, the domestic political events that ended a few days ago are two sessions and all are approved. he has been approved for a third term . he needs to take such steps inside and outside of china that is why his first visit will be to moscow, we know 20 in march, it cannot be said that china was generally silent during the entire invasion. but we cannot say that china played any constructive role in ending the war, which it repeatedly said over the past year, we

also heard concerns, then all the rhetoric switched to such anti-american rhetoric in april, an article was published for such a domestic chinese consumer where ukraine was called a pawn of the united states, and on the anniversary of the invasion we saw this so-called peace plan, which in fact is china's position on the resolution of the crisis, which summed up all the messages that we read and heard from all platforms, both international and domestic, and china's aid was very modest in march . last year, ukraine received a small amount of humanitarian aid through the channels of the international red cross. recently, china in within the framework of megate, he made a contribution to the technical support of nuclear facilities and essential - that's almost all but a few days ago , we saw really such an activation just a few days ago that beijing really began to prepare and for the visit to moscow, we saw in

the western press that a video conference with our president is being prepared and the first such signal is being prepared. it was a meeting of our diplomats in the deceased with a very influential analytical center and literally after this meeting there was a conversation between the heads of the foreign affairs of ukraine and china. there was a meeting of our plan for ruslan stefanchuk with the ambassador of the prc in ukraine, psenzhun, and we really didn’t hear from the chinese ambassador. last year, there was such a publication and they said mr. ruslan said that we want china to at least from one of the points which he announced joined and played his constructive role and there in this position there is something to work on and something to say about the office of the president also mrs. kiforov said that

the conversation of our president with syzynfin is being prepared, that is, something is happening, what kind of signals can really e- e lead to constructive action from china, which we are very much looking forward to. greetings, look at the visit to moscow. well, it passed. everyone is talking and there are some panicked cries from the ukrainian side. there is more restraint. i am very skeptical about this visit because i do not believe. and you will correct me if i i'm wrong. i don't believe in any breakthroughs. i'm absolutely convinced of very good words that will be said from the chinese side. even better words will be said from the russian side , but i don't believe the

actions. european american companies, chinese companies such as the huge huawei, for example, is coming from russia , continuing to say that we are the friendship of the front in the friendship of chewing gum, as they said in my childhood, but in fact they are not there and everything goes that way. china does buy russian energy carriers, but in small quantities and for little money and when will some gas pipeline be built there to china through the whole of russia. i can hardly imagine how much it will cost when it ends. that is, i do not believe in strategic contact between moscow and beijing. am i wrong or not? well, what was announced, yes. what we read from chinese sources , first of all, yes, they gave the date only two days ago. before that, russia had been talking about this visit and had been announcing it for the past six months, that is,

russia really wanted to xixinfen came to them, that's what chinese sources say, what will be discussed is the consecration of a strategic partnership between the two countries, as well as the development of economic relations between the countries until the 30th year, that is, how they developed their relations, and they will develop them, but the chinese side also announced that sitting the visit to zinping is aimed at supporting the maintenance of peace and encouraging the political settlement of the ukrainian crisis. what is meant is difficult to say, but here we must pay attention to one such important moment, and perhaps this is the essence of the visit. all calls to moscow, china, more than once expressed the opinion that there is no winner in the war, that is, it is obvious that china will think about how to save russia's face in the event of a defeat on the battlefield, he will propose, for example, that the parties

nevertheless find a compromise in solving this conflict, so that there is no winner and loser, in order to maintain a kind of balance, which they constantly call for the maintenance of balance and for russia to be preserved as a country , so that it does not fall apart. we remember that separatist sentiments were growing inside china, especially in the western regions, therefore , for china, for internal chinese political stability, the collapse of russia will be a very big threat. therefore, it is possible that they are something they have prepared something that is too early to say, we really have to wait for the publication on the 20th. it is also very important that it was announced that there will be an article published in a chinese newspaper . putin has already been unfaithful, that is, he will publish something about

the ukrainian conflict and crisis, as they say. maybe sizinpin will be published in a russian newspaper, that is, some kind of announcement will have to wait, but the fact that china is bringing peace, well , this is such official rhetoric. yes, unfortunately, this is a very bad peace for ukraine. i was just thinking about this just yesterday and thought to myself that this peace can make it so that the ukrainian crimea will not return, will not return to ukraine, the whole world will simply start pressuring us, let's have peace leave the crimea to russia already let's persuade putin to leave luhansk donetsk well, this is the end of the war , which the ukrainians will definitely never agree to, but sisinfen knows mir zelenskyi's formula very well, the whole world knows about it and is really putting pressure on the chinese leader, so i

think that he is also preparing for this, that is , the compromise that may be proposed , he will take our wishes into account because he the peace plan itself yes, it really is what it is criticized for, that beijing calls for peace until a cease-fire but does not call for the withdrawal of troops. that is, this is the main point for which this position is criticized, it is this peace plan, and even yesterday such an article was published. national security warned china against the cease-fire formula, where they do not say about the liberation of ukrainian territories, that is, the chinese understand well. i do not think that they will go there with any empty promises or, er, without any at all any constructive ideas, you just have to wait a couple more days and then everything will be clear. you think that well, maybe you are because

you are an expert after all. no, but it is very difficult for me to read minzhi bao or xinhua, which i read from time to time. well, they translate it into such languages ​​that you can read and i can't always understand, these articles are very similar to brezhnev's speeches, that you had to sit and listen to leonid ilyich for a long time to understand what he is hinting at, such general words, in short well, we will monitor the situation thank you vitya holod, chairman of the board of the ukrainian association of chinese studies, and i am convinced that it will not be the last time we meet with her today, it was very interesting, very professional and i will pass on the word to iryna koval, who will pass on the word to me after 15 minutes. well, i want to start the issue with the fact that an air alert has currently been announced in