[000:00:00;00] it's worthless with a piece of paper. that is, there is none. let's say something so that it would be possible to get caught except for probably two or four points. the first and most important thing is that the war cannot be turned into a nuclear war. and this is a very important signal. the hindus also said, by the way, well, there's more . the exchange is prisoners, that is, other matters. but the most important thing is that nuclear stimulation must work, because nuclear weapons are not only in the russian federation, and putin must understand what will happen to him if he is alexander. representative of the united states andria kalan good evening well, let's start with the arrest warrant for putin, which was issued by the international criminal court of the hague, what do you think will be the real political consequences of this cake?

everyone saw it from the first day of this war eh and how eh this is such atrocious and eh crime - and this is to show what the whole world sees what s- it happened and all that continues to happen is the position of the usa, it remains, it has not changed, and what do we think that russia is committing, it has not committed, and it continues to continue to commit, m crime against humanity и а-а и все віновные быту быть а-а привлечные katvestvennosti mr. andrea and how does the fact that according to russian legislation in their constitution

they do not accept and do not accept decisions of international courts affect the situation or in principle this will not affect the situation in general, because international law will work in any case if putin appears in any of the countries that have ratified the rome statute and , accordingly, adhere to the geneva convention . -he signed the roman statute then they must restore him and eh he will then be eh condemned eh in court in the gag a-a well eh how will it be eh really eh it will continue further eh i can't say it, but i can't. i want to emphasize that this is exactly what the international criminal

court did yesterday. made a decision to do this because of the fact that there is evidence and information in court - a soldier is a simple soldier or the leader of the country is a person who will be brought to responsibility , let's discuss the story with the drone, how much, in principle, although probably nothing can affect russia's american attitude, well , this is the situation - this is not a transition to the next one - then red lines how do you like it?

the united states will act with such a situation. with such a situation , a military pilot is not the first time. when we see such an action on the part of russian pilots . that we act as a-a according to international rules a-a and er-e our our drone flew where er-e can er-e according to international laws a-a and we will continue er-e er-e here it flies and it works in international e-e spaces a-a so that's it, it's serious a-a but we we believe that this was not premeditated and uh, so that there would be transparency. how did you see , uh, they also published a video of this incident , so that everyone could see what really happened, because we see it from

the russian side. here are other versions that do not correspond to reality , talk about the unpredictability of the situation, but it should be noted that russia after this is trying to establish its monopoly in the international waters of crimea around crimea and in the international air space over crimea, and this also raises questions because at first ukrainian sovereignty was violated now. in fact, there is an advance towards international waters and international airspace, how to resist such demands. well, this certainly causes uh alarm , and uh, uh, the usa will uh, uh insist on that russia she followed the international rule of course when we look at the war in ukraine and we talk about the international international norms it's a bit difficult because we see that russia

violates all the norms and not only in the air to the space, here is a full-scale statement invasion of ukraine a-a but we will continue our action and we will insist that russia violated these norms, mr. andrey, if it was not on purpose, as you say then why did the minister of defense of russia issue state awards even to the su-27 pilots who carried out, as they said, this operation? well , i can't find out why the sheik, or whether another person in the russian government acts like this by the way, i can simply say that we are on our side we will stop it, it works rationally, and we will continue to support ukraine

so that ukraine can resist such aggression. in the united states, political dialogue is important on the eve of the visit of the president of china, all dengpin to moscow do you have a political towel about the situation in america, or er, somehow they talk about political dialogue precisely in the solution of the ukrainian crisis, because that's what we see now, er, how er preparing in moscow requisites of the representative of the people's republic of china, the mistress of the program, you know the signing

of the agreement and the wounds of suldovskaya, and there is such an obvious foreign policy competition in beijing. back when er china gave er its plan er for peace although er here er there was a contradiction we see that on the one hand k tyrag wants to play this role er in order to er help put the end of this war and on the other hand china wants uh very close contact with russia and uh morally help uh kremlin so there are a few contradictions and the fact that the usa wants it so that uh we want to put an end to this war that's very easy putin can uh today put an end to it this war is to withdraw troops from ukraine, and how is it written in this chinese plan, in the chinese plan

, it is possible to respect the sovereignty and all the borders of ukraine, but he does not do it. visit to moscow eh, after the chinese visit to moscow, i can't tell you. but to us it is necessary that all of them suffer precisely because of that how can it be possible to end this war in ukraine and in the end it is not china that will solve it exactly ukraine a-a so that the usa will be - to work with our partners and support ukraine, and so that ukraine has the best position and can, when the time comes to speak in mathematical language with moscow , then ukraine will be the strongest position -

this is their discussion, i am also interested andrea about your internal political such changes, let's say talk because the ex-president of the usa, donald trump, is planned to be arrested again, this time as he announced that this will happen on tuesday this time for the case of paying money for silence to a porn star. please tell me how this affects the election campaign, which is not official yet. less, she has already started well, as a diplomat, i cannot comment on the political profession within america, but i know that this is why the planet is what i would like - э

казать это то что мы слышим много а-а в eight and even from the russian side that the domestic political situation in america is connected with elections that will be or are connected with other events a-a mm a-a affects the support of the united states for ukraine, that's what i want to say that this is not true and i want to say to all of your bombers that the american people support ukraine a-a it's not only the biden administration a-a it's not only eh hmm one anna party or the other party - both republicans and democrats support ukraine er and er i think that er, even er, after the elections, you will see that our support remains very

strong, and here i am, for example, from texas , and i was very pleased that recently , february 24, er and even in my city, where before the war, probably many people didn’t know about ukraine, they didn’t know the occult in ukraine , they didn’t know what the flag of ukraine looks like, namely on february 24 in my city, in the center of the city i was in red and blue and white and in the city center i was in blue and yellow and it was so nice to see that americans in different cities in america support ukraine, they want russia

to end its aggression against ukraine and that we are all in peace, ukrainians, americans, and different peoples could just live peacefully and eh continue eh friends continue eh our life and we thank the americans for their support when the words of foreign policy disagreements between the usa and ukraine appear in the american media this week there were many such resonant texts politics washington post ukrainian ochen it seriously reacts to them, it perceives them, uh, out of habit, maybe as such signals, as an almost official position, uh, to be honest , i saw these posts in the media and ah, what i see uh, you in your work and in the relationship between the usa and ukraine is a-a er-e

we work so closely we we have a-a very regular contact er-e every day er-e and er-e we er-e we when i speak we are er-e eh, the biden administration ah, it's eh, eh, in general, the americans support ukraine, and i don't see that there are any eh cracks, and here it is, on the contrary, eh recently, we also saw that the president therefore came to kyiv, and he saw with his own eyes the situation in ukraine . well, how close is our country, and what will we do

? е помощь and dashi to е recover е е ukraine after this terrible war большое спасибо большое thank you spartal andreaka lano, officially the representative of the state department of the united states, we will still remain in such an international perspective, because now we will talk with maria galyti geleti, an expert in balkonivska, a political candidate , well, congratulations, mrs. uh, maria , congratulations. what do i still need to talk to people who we invite to follow the meeting of the president of serbia oleksand trava or the prime minister of kosovo albin kurtzki macedonian ohrid , it is now going on for literally several minutes ago, the next round began and there is great hope that this meeting will bring about the long-awaited settlement in the balkans. however, i see that president luchšich already said

during the meeting with journalists that he is not going to sign anything , that there will be no agreements and in i have a question, why did he go there then, this is another round of negotiations, plus there are such opinions that it is expected that in the eyes, in some way, it can affect the decisions regarding the elections that are to be held in kosovo, local elections because they are representatives of the serbian minority or the serbian community, they left the parliament and now it is expected that somewhere in april there will be elections where these representatives were to be elected and it is expected that the decision that can be reached there is one of those decisions, this is the actual decision regarding the elections in kosovo

but i think you're right that it's not worth expecting any progress in the current situation regarding the relations with kosovo and serbia. i think that this is another round of negotiations, it's not yet a final decision. and i understand from buchach's words that at least that that he publicly communicates that he did not see that the proposal of a formal from the west regarding the settlement of this issue also remains the question of the recognition of kosovo by serbia and also the issue of the municipalities of serbian kosovo, so i think that these are just negotiations most likely, it will not be signed for, and agreements will simply be reached, which will somehow eventually be formalized into a document, because kosovo still has such a protest against the formation of these municipalities. me too i understand them because this is really a problem, because it can turn into a problem of the serbian part of bosnia, which can then

affect the stable and unstable ways in the region as a whole, and mrs. maria's verbal agreements can reduce the tension. is it still impossible without signed documents? no, they are not. of course, they reduce the tension, but we must understand that you , er, in serbia itself, there are many who are not supporters of the recognition of kosovo, who consider kosovo to be part of serbia, er, these are more nationalist movements, and the problem is that now these protests are taking place in serbia, and vluchysh is somewhat a hostage to this situation, because he is a politician with experience, he understands that he must take into account the interests of various groups that are inside, and in serbia there are various movements that seek more european integration. those who are close to russia support russia and those who do not want to recognize kosovo, that is, they are ready to give up associate membership and membership in the eu

for the sake of those interests, namely keeping kosovo as part of their territories in the past, well, it is really impossible now, that is, they are ready to give up money. this history of serbia, you know yugoslavia, is the inability to give up money. to get as much money and more benefits as possible and i think that is one of the levers that he will still use that the protests are happening in serbia and will ask for more money in order to be able to convince those opponents who are against it solution well, look now, the representative of the united states in the western balkans, gabriel escobar, just a few minutes ago, in an interview with radio free europe

, told the serbian service that without the recognition of kosovo by serbia, without the recognition of kosovo by serbia, there is no way to europe for both of these of identities, well, this is actually clearly stated either this way or this way, absolutely, in fact, the situation is very much like that either serbia recognizes kosovo and kosovo moves to different institutions, but kosovo can move to different institutions without this recognition is simple for serbia, in order to normalize relations with kosovo, this recognition is needed. they have to come to terms with the situation that they lost kosovo as part of their territory and they have to recognize that kosovo is already independent and can move forward, that is , to international institutions and, in particular , the european union, the united nations council er, europe , etc., so yes, i agree that this is for them, er, well, this is a decision that they actually cannot avoid. but of course, there will always be

protests from those who are against, and that is understandable. the main thing so that it does not turn into some threatening protests about the european vector of serbia, let's talk some more, mrs. maria, after all, this is against the background of the desire to attract even more funds , or have they changed some political position regarding ukraine and, let's say, for the benefit of our country, i do not believe in the balkans much - in fact, i studied them a lot, i have many acquaintances in the balkans, so i think that their financial interest is important, of course they have people who support european integration, they really want to integrate into the eu, but in recent years in particular, last year there were assessments regarding the support of integration in the eu and it was very low, the lowest. probably for many years, the issue here is most likely money and the opportunities they receive from the west if they move in line with

the west, and this everything emerges and it all affects how they behave towards ukraine , i.e. the first thing they start talking about possible sanctions against russia, also when they talk about the fact that they do not recognize e crimea and e e occupied territories as some other units and not a part of ukraine, although in this case when they talk about crimea and about, for example, the dpr, the dpr, the lpr, it is not about ukrainian interests, what do you mean, that they are in step with europe or the west? and what they are basically talking about kosovo because if they recognize crimea and recognize the dpr of the lpr, then they actually recognize the independence of kosovo , that is, they are playing their own game here, and you have to understand that they are trying to use the moment as effectively as possible in order to get as many advantages as possible for themselves. i generally

see the situation with serbia with the balkans as this happened during the second world war after the second world war, when there was actually a struggle between the west and the soviet union for its slavia, and everyone also offered certain benefits for yugoslavia . it seems to me that serbia will now take advantage of this moment and try to use this moment the most effectively for yourself in order to get the best support, in principle , it can be assumed that belgorod will eventually be forced to determine this or face it, it will maneuver like this constantly, we will say yes , it seems to me that we understand that you know, you can never relax in international relations, because the recent statements of the russian ambassador in serbia that they can get the support of any high-ranking russia and if

necessary, plus there is talk of the fact that there are currently 20,000 russians on the territory of serbia, and that too the question is who are these? who are these russians? are they the military? are they some agents that can be used, for example, for some kind of confrontation? there is also the question of how much they teach and can maneuver on their own, but it seems to me that the west has promised a lot and this is very beneficial for russia, because i remember when there was a meeting with the parliament when they discussed this proposal of the measure and when there was actually a voted decision that they agree with it, he actually said then that you understand that we have an option either we agree with these proposals or we will be in a situation where we will actually find ourselves on the outskirts of relations , that is, we

will also be limited in all resources, we will not have access to anything. opportunities to move forward and on the other side they have er promise that there will be accelerated membership plus er finances plus resources i think this is a very important important argument for myself to go together with serbia with the west to move er to er to membership and, in parallel, it is understandable to support the position of the west regarding ukraine as well. and why did putin stand up for putin in the eyes of the autocrat ? i said this because of the noise of the story with the extradition of slobod to the milosevics in the hague, or just love for putin himself. as for the characters, i am also in favor i thought about this. in fact, i agree. i think that this story is about sloboda milosevic himself, but i suspect that in general , the balkans, in particular, the serbs, do not understand our war with russia. they do not understand why we are fighting so hard. i think that they

perceive the soviet union and, let's say , ukrainian attitude towards everything that uh we went through as a part of the soviet union as the former yugoslavia they don't understand that the soviet union was much worse than the former yugoslavia and that's why when we fight for independence they think well it must be something such as how someone from our former republics fought there, in principle, nothing so serious happened there, uh, but they fought there, i don’t know for some economic interests, and i think that this is not an understanding of our war, does not understand why we fight for our freedom for us in independence is the first reason, friend. i think that he is also afraid that the decision can really affect putin's behavior. although, on the other hand, in my opinion, such a decision limits putin himself and it gives the russians a chance,

for example, someone who is unhappy with the situation which is possible to think about and follow the path of how did serbia go with sloboda milosevic well, there was a revolution there, after all, it was real and i must say that if we compare sloboda with data and slobbering with putin, i agree, i agree, mr. maria milošević, of course there was a dictator or this dictator had an opposition that could even to win the elections of the country's capital , there were free publications that were published directly in belgrade, let's say vremya magazine . imagine a magazine with such content in moscow. it was a magazine that clearly said that milosevic the dictator that serbia is waging aggressive wars, it was all directly written there and you could go to the kiosk and say i want to buy it and sit down in a coffee shop to read it in russia, maybe you can sit somewhere in a coffee shop with a laptop, but here just buy an opposition magazine now, well, there are no chances, they are zero. and this was even during the war, even during the war

, all this was published in serbia. well, you know, with such a dictatorship, with all that, it is easier to fight between uh, with putin's dictatorship and i agree but i think that this question is not quite like me i mean that putin's entourage, which is close to him, can follow a similar path and try, or i don't know, to remove putin or extradite him, or to make an agreement with the west about how they can send somewhere to a country where there is a potential safe for putin and to arrest, well, that is, the way can probably be found if we found these people who would like to act according to a similar example , well, that is, of course, this is an adapted example, but they are, uh, this is the example that was in our recent history, because sloboda milosevic. i think he was one of those leaders who was recently prosecuted for property in the international

criminal court. you know, there is another panology. when society literally demolishes the so-called, i remember very well that serbia could be calm talk about slovenes, macedonians, croatia, they already started to fight to a certain extent and about muslims, but when you started talking to him about kosovo, they literally had a hard time, they didn't talk, they just got angry, they just lost it's not that common sense for communication is healthy, and you already know that in the soviet union during the yugoslav era, when they were at the same time the soviet union. the way of the serbs from kosovo, in general, there is such a story, they consider the kosovars to be part of the seva state, and when the serbian state is, it is true that it was all there gracha no, this is

kosovo, poles, all this is without kosovo, there is no serbia without croatia, they are bad bastards, but without croatia has serbia, but there is no kosovo, and there is no russia without ukraine, yes, you have found my opinion, it is true. by the way, it is interesting to compare these things, because for me the balkans are always very different from ukraine, but it is true that they are similar in that approach and eh - for some reason it is very difficult for the serbs to lose kosovo, although it is clear that now