[000:00:00;00] well, we made the contracts well in the short term, that is, they operate under slightly reduced shadows until the end of march, then they will obviously be rescheduled again and it is possible to revise the prices, what can be said about the prices that were in the first version of the contracts and the prices that are now after of a small destruction in several compositions, then this is the fact that the first company really purchased all the goods in january , all the products that they supply to the front, and this is more than 200 items, and they bought much cheaper, two to three times cheaper than they sold eh, and how about such sales for january at the prices that are in the contracts, they look extremely strange, and the problem

eh can be called corruption the whole year, and that is, the company allegedly assumed inflation in the future and said that you understand that in december we will deliver at a loss, but in january we will transfer with profits . that is, it is as if such a balance was, but in short , you can call it very harsh, you can call it more loyal, as the ministry of defense says, but there are indeed questions about the feasibility of contracts and the formula of these contracts, unfortunately they remain and still the only thing i want to say in defense of these companies is that, of course, this is not an absolute excuse, but they absolutely definitely have an additional expense item in those cases when they take products exactly to the front line, because they say that we don’t have steeves, there is no way to bring them in with big cars, they take them on pontoon crossings in small, small cars, they

make a lot of trips here and there, and it’s theirs according to the data, transportation is more expensive compared to the company that just takes it to the rear to the shops, for example, but of course this is still not an excuse for inflated prices, for example, for apples that are still left even in march contracts and plate ones, well, what price does that mean on the evening of march 13, journalist tetyana nikolayenko made public a document from one military unit, the number of which is not mentioned . this is a fresh invoice on which the military accepted the order on the basis of which products from the company, as well as in the company, we are about it a lot of people said that among others, apples cost 51 uah per kilogram, while the market prices for this product now average about 20 kg, this is not a mistake, the ministry of defense really agreed on this price of apples for the army , and after the scandal, the company did not reduce this price why is it so expensive, how much does this company buy apples for, which ones does it sell, the ministry of defense

analyzed the financial statements of the company and found that the purchase price for apples during november and february was set at only uah 15 , a margin, that is, a markup for the military more than three times, and here they give there about potatoes , they analyzed the analysis of the schemes revealed the following in the classified december contracts with the ministry of defense, the suppliers set such a price for potatoes from uah 17, 70 kopecks to uah 27 per kilogram after the scandal, some firms lowered the price to 12.6 and some left 17.7, despite the fact that in the store please , it is in the store retail now you can buy potatoes for 8 hryvnias for 7.50. that is, it turns out that there was no exhaust after these investigations of anti-corruption. look at what happened to the company together with the ministry of defense. i understand that at the request of the ministry of defense , prices were reduced for several items. the biggest

decrease was in vegetables, potatoes , cabbage, beets, and it was one of the biggest overestimations . and as of january, and accordingly, this is the largest volume of supply, because if we were in the warehouses of these companies and saw, for example, pineapples or kiwis, these are a few boxes in a huge area , and cabbage and potatoes are supplied simply by hundreds of metons. and these are huge separate rooms i.e. of course, if you spend 5 or 10 hryvnias on potatoes, you will earn much more than if you spend on pineapples. accordingly, there was a reaction in the form of a decrease in the price of potatoes for cabbage, and well, this is at least something. what has been saved , at least for the first three months

of this year, how will it be it is clear, maybe they will raise the prices, but at the same time, for example, there was an increase in market prices for onions and carrots, despite the fact that the prices in their contracts remained the same as they were in december , well, that is, for january and for the people of march, and here they definitely don’t earn, for example, on onions or pickles, absolutely certain. maybe they even deliver it. hmm, if it is transported from far away, then they deliver it at a loss . that is, it is actually not a very good formula for the contracts themselves, but, well, it is like that now, and according to some parameters, in some positions we really see an overpayment for some no , for some we have already talked to someone, i don't remember from the experts what, for example, is there salmon and they indicate there that the company supplies, but we supply salmon or salmon correctly for 250 hryvnias

we deliver and it is in the store for 500, so what you say is correct, pineapples can be bought from oso and you for free if there are two boxes of them, and potatoes go by wagons for 25 to 30 hryvnias, even though they cost eight. well , then where is the key to the correction situation, it is possible that such agreements should then be concluded not for a year, but for a quarter. is it impossible, just possible , now they conclude it for a quarter and for the next quarter , contracts will also be concluded now, at least the minister told me personally, that is, they are not returning additional-term contracts yet. but at the same time, there are now several working groups, in particular the joint working group of the ministry of defense and the ministry of economy, which are looking for the future how best to conclude these contracts so as not to overpay at certain stages in certain months. every 3 months, they offer to conclude one long-term contract for a year, as it

usually happens, but immediately write down that the prices we set as of january are market adequate and then write down inflation there monthly, that is, for example, the possibility to change the price once a month or once every three months in accordance with the indicators of the state statistics or the ministry of economy, this is already something more like a clear and transparent option when we have a specific formula for monthly inflation that allows us to regulate prices so that it does not there was a loss to the company and there was no extraordinary overpayment for the ministry of defense, but so far no single option has been found, i heard that the ministry of economy also offers to install some upper the purchase price limit for the ministry of defense for each product is not yet clear what they are taking, but well, there is definitely some work going on and i hope that they will find an acceptable option alice, what question did we talk

with the candidate for the position of a member of the public anti-corruption council yesterday? and now they are collecting and selecting people in to the ministry of defense and on tuesday we will even have a vote somewhere on the website of the ministry of defense, candidates will register now and people will decide who to elect to this public anti-corruption council what is the truth that this candidate could not yesterday to say what happened to the members of the previous public council under the ministry of defense, which existed even under andrii taranov, outside of the previous one, did the previous ministers move into the elite, the population ceased to be just ordinary important citizens , haha, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad, ms. alisa. how do you feel? will the chuvash anti-corruption council at the ministry of defense be able to do this work? can she somehow additionally correct the situation, or will she also simply move into the elite strata

of the population in time, given her fortune obtained on positions, well, it’s free, of course, the work there is money, don’t cry , it’s just public work, see, everything will depend on who is hired, because i would be in this working group, it was created very quickly in a very situational way. permanent members of the anti-corruption council, i saw many activists there, many volunteers who really tried to get the truth from the ministry of defense to get the publication of the first version of the contracts to analyze something. that is, there are active people there who i i know they will be submitted, and if they pass, i am absolutely sure that they will attack the ministry of defense, they will not let them live peacefully in order to achieve transparent and fair contracts . but at the same time, the powers of this council

are actually meager just to advise the minister to do something. this does not mean that the minister is obliged to follow the advice of this anti-corruption council. and even if we hire a very cool , competent anti-corruption committee, this is still not a guarantee , unfortunately, that they will be able to get exactly access to those contracts we would like to check for prices, because now we have actually only seen food contracts , of course they are for huge sums, but this is far from all that was purchased by the ministry of defense after february 24 according to procedures that allowed us not to publish anything at all, we know at what prices they were purchased bulletproof vests, at what value were other non-armored goods bought, and even more so, we do not know and will not know for sure in the time of martial law, the prices of weapons, that is, at what prices did we buy weapons at that time

uh, i have no illusions of secrecy, in principle , information during a war of martial law is a question that we, people who work with the media in the media, do not need to raise it all the time , because i, for example, am a supporter of the idea that everything that does not relate to military operations is all that they relate directly to combat operations, planning, and so on, this should all be open, including, in fact , military losses, well, that is, i understand. maybe we are not british, maybe i am ready for something that they were ready for 100 years ago or americans 70 or how many years ago. well, it would be a fair way for everyone to realize the price of every decision. thank you very much. i want to ask one more question, and what other biosinfo investigations are you currently working on ? well, here's what to do. i think you know that journalists and investigators can't announce because it can somehow

affect the actions of those about whom we are filming, so uh, unfortunately, i can't call you by name, but i promise that we are really preparing now several important top political topics, so it should be interesting already, people are writing applications for dismissal, everyone who sees us, thank you very much for your participation, alisa yurchenko , deputy editor-in-chief of bigus-info, we talked about the purchase of the army, as well as the election of a new anti-corruption council and representatives of the old public council under the ministry of defense and the previous ministers, i don't really know, maybe it's shorter there because people well , but knowing that wound, it's unlikely that the president signed a law introducing a compensation mechanism for housing damaged or destroyed by the occupiers well, the parliament already voted for this document a month ago and now there is already a signature, according to which uah 17 billion is allocated for this, by the way, the money from the russian sberbank is not there, they pulled out of the ukrainian economy how to get those compensations, our

dmytro didora investigated the plots on these shots dmytro from irpen in april. last year, he was singing in his dilapidated apartment. then he saw her for the first time after the de-occupation of kyiv region . on march 5, russian troops dropped a phosphorus bomb on the roof of a high-rise building . they tried to put it out for several hours. there are several floors in all the apartments, there are no windows, about 50% of the apartments in our building were burned in the shunt, 25-30% of the apartments that did not burn out at all, they were literally smoked and fell apart , 10-15% of the apartments remained, just like my apartment, battered, tattered, but like restoration subject to the residents

at their own expense conducted a technical analysis of the damage , the commission's conclusion is subject to reconstruction, now it's the turn of the project very valuable documentation on the restoration of a house without a roof we are on our own with our resources of the residents we are somehow they grouped together and closed something there, packed something there so that the water did not get inside too much but this is not a solution , it is not for long, it is not one year, so that in people like dmytro in ukraine, at least 2 million citizens, the majority of citizens simply cannot restore their homes with their own funds february 23 parliamentarians adopted in the second reading the law on compensation for destroyed or damaged housing donetsk, kharkiv and kyiv regions are considered to be the most affected , today only citizens of ukraine will be able to receive compensation all people citizens

of ukraine, they should not be on independent lists, they should not have certain accusations of treason or in matters related to national defense, in order to receive compensation , it will be possible to submit a copy of the document to the social protection authorities or a notary public through the action of the national social security act which confirms the right of ownership , it is also desirable to attach photos or video materials before or after the destruction of the residence, all applications will be verified by the commission that will be created by the self-government bodies and 30 days when the commission through the use of a digital tool, this is a register of damaged and destroyed property, she will create a housing certificate if the housing is destroyed, if it is an apartment building and the apartment is located in such a building, for those whose housing is completely destroyed, the law provides for housing certificates for the amount of damage, i.e. the state guarantees to finance the purchase of a ready-made apartment or house or

housing. what else is being built, the location of your new residence is chosen by yourself, you can also receive funds for a target account to restore damaged housing, a person receives, and target funds that can be withdrawn exclusively for construction material work, this is also done by a commission created when local self-government was broken, the house of our host lena chechenina was also destroyed by the russians, but the residents of the house did not wait for a compensation mechanism and restored everything on their own the cost is much more iptv sums, all the sofas there were in hot water, but i spent a considerable amount on this. well , plus the restoration of communications, the law does not yet

provide for money for those who restored their the houses of such citizens are asked to wait for reparations from the aggressor state, but how long we have to wait is unknown . if there are reparations , i will be satisfied. this amount is, well, 1045, the law has already been signed by the president, but the local people do not yet know how it will work , georgyenko, the head of the village council of borotdyanka, which was completely destroyed by the russians, admits to us. by the occupiers, the man says that local officials have not received any instructions from the central government, because the government has two months to develop regulations and only after these procedures will citizens be able not only to submit documents, but also finally receive compensation for property damaged by the russians dmytro didura oleksandr burlevych oscar jansons tv channel

espresso, let's continue our broadcast oleksandr slobozhan, executive director of the association of cities of ukraine with us where veterinary at least part of it p oleksandr congratulations to you congratulations that you learned something interesting from the plot. and you know, here we are, here i am from irpen, andrii from buchi, uh , luckily for me, they changed the window frames in my apartment at the expense of the community or a charity organization. i don’t even know where andrii got the money from. he changed everything for himself. exchanged at his own expense. who among us , i'm sorry, did the right thing, who was lucky, who was not, it's hard to say who was lucky, who was not, eh.

of destroyed property, have you heard these numbers? yes, they called 17 billion dollars, then 35, then 52 billion, respectively, and in hryvnias there are from 600 and er billions and much more in the state budget, now in the corresponding fund there is 15-17 billion, we understand er that the amount of funding available in the state budget will not be enough for everyone. now, returning to your question, the law is very interesting and provides that for those objects that are partly destroyed, as you gave the example, local self-government bodies carry out or current repair a-a or provide appropriate compensation, it is clear that in the same buchi and in irpen after

the occupation , the available funds in the local budgets are simply missing. the day there are actually involved funds from charities or other international organizations , there are twin ties and partnerships, but the most important thing is if the law is launched and in the plot, colleagues are very correct on this made an emphasis, there are two advisory things that we talked about during its passage , respectively, in the parliament, how will the cost of this compensation be determined per square meter and here ? eh, you spoke for yourself for your colleague, he assumes that you can apply for eh restored housing in any region of ukraine, and

the government will have to decide this in a certain way in its methodology eh, because when they face the practical implementation of eh there will be many questions, too, a person will want to, er, let's talk like this, exchange the certificate, of course, er, now the application, er, can be submitted during martial law, and a year after the end of martial law, this certificate will be valid there for 5 years, of course, there are restrictions on what you cannot immediately exchange it there, it is not yet known how it will be after receiving the object, respectively, for another 5 years , you will not be able to alienate it , well, except for the transfer of inheritance. self-government, which in our opinion is wrong in a certain way, as for the destroyed , they talked about certificates, it's about apartments, it's about houses, funds from a special account

are given for construction or, accordingly, it's for obtaining a certificate, now the most important moment for us, for local self-government bodies, has there should be a clear algorithm for the activities of these e -commissions and in a certain way if the state followed the path of certificates, then it should have been a centralized e-e moment and until it is written down in the subordinate legal acts as the municipality must act, how will the value of a square meter be determined according to the methodology? well, it's very difficult now , no one will answer you, uh, whether everyone receives proper compensation or not, it's already uh, a question of available money, in our opinion , it is secondary i will give an example that today in ukraine there are working triestries

of damaged property that do not agree with each other and when we did a survey in the kharkiv region there were many complaints that there was a lot of work which takes time and is not available later eh effectiveness due to exceptional inconsistency at the level of the united ministry in the plan of activity of these registers and we already have march now, we are talking about the restoration from march of last year, that is, a year of time, and in the country, another single register has not been created, so there are questions when the compensation for the number of objects will start to work, in principle, 74% of all destroyed objects are located

in donetsk, luhansk, zaporizhzhia, kharkiv and kyiv regions, here are the most and the most important point is that you just talked about it yourself er, they said data verification, er, in our opinion, the state currently does not have the real number of er, those objects that were destroyed and which are subject to restoration , because a large part of er, or citizens of er, are already being restored without waiting actions of the central authorities or through relevant international charities, i will explain yes, i repent, i am only in action. i registered with damage to the city government. i did not write a statement , because i was not physically in irpen at the time, but then with the action, as i registered, so it is hanging there

and it was the local government that helped, who simply came and helped everyone in the house. i understand it at the expense of a charitable organization. that is, it is all thanks exclusively to the local self-government, the state has nothing to do with this at all. certificate, knives, what is a certificate, a bad word for me , sir , everything. i just remember. this is a privatization certificate, and it was invested somewhere by the invest fund in the zaporizhzhia plant of ferroalloys. it seems that people will not really trust these certificates in view of well, the fact that these obligations are postponed in time, they are not always fulfilled, and they are for a limited time , what do you think ? it is detailed. for example, we, as an association of cities, wrote a note on it on eight pages that specifically concerns such details of the algorithm of actions and first

announced to the citizens that it will be restored and with a ready answer how it will work and at the moment, unfortunately, there is no. i understand that now it will be developed at a rapid pace. we have a limit. the factor, since the already signed law is clearly defined , there must be a resolution of the cabinet of ministers within three months, other by-laws, therefore, those applications and such applications at the moment there are more than 300,000 who have accordingly registered in the action, they can be implemented only after first determining a with the calculation of compensation b with the algorithm of actions of the commission that

will verify and e-e in e-e how it will be implemented in terms of certificates, how will they be asked there, where are the announcements, exactly 300,000 applications for compensation are in effect, yes, they are in action and simply there is information officially from the government , the information as of february was that we have damaged 60,000 residential buildings and 3,310 applications for multi-apartment buildings. i think so among them there are apartments , so you very rightly ask about various different registers and the need for the relevant ministry to put these registers in order because there is an action and there are also local authorities that accept applications for damaged property is all other registers, the register here, accepting applications, is one, let's say, one aspect of reconstruction, and directly keeping registers is the second

aspect of reconstruction, because accordingly , an object that is damaged can be entered into the register but an application may not be submitted for it, and on the contrary, it seems to you that it was submitted accordingly due to the action. and this object is not included , for example, in one of the registers of the regions , the ministerial one. so, look at the private 132,000. about 20 floors are still counted as temporary housing objects such as dormitories and, accordingly, well, other objects, so there are many more destroyed objects, but according to the law that we are talking about, it is, accordingly, now the law is limited exclusively to residential real estate, here

we must also take into account during this year, they worked on different registers, submitted different applications , uh, uh, because they are, well, they are, this information will be used for various purposes. the application for all 57,000 uah, that is, bad yes andriy does not receive compensation for the funds spent, is it correct or can he receive it? look accordingly where the mechanism has already been carried out and what the resident mentioned in the plot . unfortunately, whoever has restored the existing mechanism. i am sure. i am sure that someone will definitely need this money more and cause more destruction . well, thank you oleksandr slobozhan, executive director of the association of cities of ukraine, well, money is needed not only for the restoration of our damaged housing , but also for the restoration of our information

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