[000:00:00;00] pay attention to holosevska on the eve of the ion in kyiv, recorded by our colleague espresso journalist vitaly bakumenko, let's watch the interview vitalia molgozhata gosevska, a polish public figure , a politician and a great friend of ukraine, in 2011, malgozhata gosevska was elected a deputy of the parliament of justice and justice, now she holds the position of deputy marshal of the sejm of the republic of poland, ms. gossevska the author of the report on russian war crimes in donbas in 2014, which was already handed over to the dugan tribunal in april 2016. the 500-page report is a significant contribution to future trials of russian criminals. malgozhata gossevska repeatedly traveled to the frontline cities of ukraine to see with her own eyes the crimes of the russian occupiers and express her support for ukrainians who

are fighting for their freedom in 2020. malgozhata gossevska was awarded the order of princess olga of the third degree for the seventh personal contribution to strengthening the international authority of ukraine with the russian federation . please tell me. what were your personal premonitions of such a full-scale invasion and what were the moods in poland at that time did the poles even expect that such a tragedy could happen? yes, of course we expected it, unfortunately we knew it would happen. although we didn't want to believe that it would reach such a scale, even george. yes, we were horrified that we turned out to be right. no, it's not good.

there is nothing pleasant about such a feeling of being right, but it is even better to feel satisfied that your warnings were effective, so it was not possible for various reasons from the brand to help us, we were ready from the first minutes of this full-scale aggression aggression, but yes , in fact, although in fact it was still long before that the whole of poland went to help ukraine, money was given to ukraine, the government helped the president, but above all, what helped was society and i myself. war, that dramatic war , ukraine was attacked by a powerful army, brutal , monstrous, but elegant, but the largest army in the world was lined up at the border, and this is already

an army of human hearts, polish hearts, this support is always on your side, studies show that at the moment almost 80 % of polish society is doing something to support ukraine, this year has shown who are real friends for ukraine, tell me how polish-ukrainian relations have changed with this remembered she stood in front of everything in the city of przemyśl, the attack was even less, er, this city experienced difficult relations and in one moment all these things ceased to have any meaning, the ball had already become a ball and when the windows learning that it was between calcium pshema, all residents of przemyśl simply went to the border to the railway station in the premises of the former

tesco building and simply helped , we can say that now we are building completely new and polish-ukrainian relations for our children, for our grandchildren, for our common future but that doesn't mean that we don't need to work on these relations, that we have already gained everything from the same mother, because at the top of society , we have become so close, but this is already the end of the story, but there are still unresolved things between us, late because in a few years, strength will appear again, and we know from where anyone wants to use it, that's why we were going, i think that even in this difficult time , we should think about solving these problems. by the way

, yes, about screwing up all relationships. russian propaganda and regulations will settle, well, information attacks on poland, on polish citizens, it seems that either poland will take ukrainian territories or vice versa . how do they deal with this in poland? how do they fight it? aesthetically russian propaganda is attacking russian propaganda, i can feel it on my skin and in my own press for many years now, we are fine here. of course, it has increased recently , and with that, i hope that our services are monitoring this, because i will say something else. do you understand it? is happening and you have different attempts, so why via and what i already said that russia

was always interested in quarreling with us in order to win . during which, and especially in recent years, she did a lot to make us quarrel, so that we could not understand each other, it is boring for us to understand each other or any problems that will appear in our relationship, and especially those that have already happened, we have to decide, the man solves or hides put your head in the sand and openly talk about them and look for a solution to the catholic church of st. nicholas, which for years was mostly inaccessible to catholics

. this is a catholic church, but the faithful could not wait for the opportunity to use this church normally . it may be normal, says the last one standing, antony, teratheoretical, theoretically, now there is this possibility. would function, it is possible to interfere so that we can think about the restoration of this object together, the restoration will join this because this costume is collapsing here , it is cold we feel it now, it needs believers and funds for the reconstruction of mama koshchuk, e.e., the catholic costume of mary magdalene in lviv magdalena, this is also an issue that should be resolved not in polish-ukrainian

relations, but within ukraine with the catholic kostelomski, but this is an issue that is close to the hearts of poles, so it would be good to settle them as the strip of ukrainians is an incredibly important matter, the volyn massacre of volyn, that is, it is possible to say that it is a far-fetched matter, but there are people who escaped and remember those years of sneezing in a check. it is their duty to do so in order to understand this complex history , but the most important thing is that those who died, those who were barbarically killed have the right to their own graves, crosses and surnames and titles are ready for the work

of exhumation, we are ready for exhumation work with the former village of huta peniatske it has already been very well researched by the polish institute of national remembrance, we should look for the killed poles, and palakov took them away at any moment, we can start exhumation at any moment, we need solutions, these solutions are necessary conditions, what conditions do we set, it is not time for conditions on our feet we help and we will help ukraine, this is our joint war, a joint struggle , we treat it that way, but we taught we would like to think in parallel about solving complex issues, so little and so much, what do you say, is it a joint war, do the poles feel it personally

this war, don't they think that poland could be next? yes, and is the polish army or society somehow preparing for possible aggressive actions? of course, we take into account the fact that the russian federation can also attack the territory of poland for such already the russian federation. we are counting on such a probability and are preparing for it. the army is already strong at 6. the army is already strong and will be even stronger. it is not even our opinion. they say that soon it will be the strongest army in europe, because this is what the current moment requires . to the armed forces of ukraine ukraine we greatly appreciate and admire ukraine

ukrainian society and ukrainian soldiers heroism incredible position and courage and emphasize once there is more and i will emphasize once again we understand this but we also say uha na in the west, in the west already and in this war, ukraine defends the whole of europe and, in fact, the whole world and the basic values ​​of our act , the army, but it is increasing and there are many young people who are willing to join the army. specialties a few years ago, military carts were under threat of closure. now they are developing very quickly and receive a large

number of students . recently in the polish sejm i founded a parliamentary group on defense within the framework and now within the framework of the military activities of the technical academy and every two weeks we undergo training there, these are regular military exercises for several months, we also want to defend our country when such a moment comes, an action in warsaw in january you were at the rally in warsaw and said that you demanded the creation of a new tribunal that would condemn russian crimes. you have been collecting us for a long time and you submitted a report to the tribunal in a gaggle. what about that report? and what kind of new tribunal?

for example , she beat me at this event organized by the ukrainian diaspora. international institutions did not pass the exam, that is, the main ones passed the exam, my report on pro-russian crimes committed in 2014 is the best proof that the international criminal court in gaza did not manage to serve that a new institution must be created the courage and determination to condemn the state of the russian federation as well as the criminals who act on its behalf, led by vladimir putin, i have already taught this question with vladimir putin, hundreds of thousands of crimes have been committed by the russians in ukraine, how to judge, that is, to judge only

the leadership of the russian federation, or to judge all individual soldiers separately officers, what do you think about this massif? it is possible for everyone to deal with it. everyone who contributed to it in some way must stand trial and be punished . the landlords have changed, but no, this does not apply only to those crimes that were committed. here are those rabble, not sure who and the nerds, it is the russian regime. vladimir putin stands behind the slow death of the former president of georgia, mikheil saakashvili, the white president of the storm. mykhailo saakashvilyaga. these are the same methods , in front of the eyes of the whole world, a man is dying, a great reformer, a great georgian, but punishment must befall all those who is involved in the imprisonment, but the old consumer tells him

who is involved in the imprisonment of the pseudo-trials and prison conditions of enger pochubut and oles delyatskyi in belarus, because i began to be after all, belavor is still er, that participant is all the same system and one mastermind, the reliability of putin, vladimir putin, plus plus assistants , but each and every one of them must be convicted for these crimes about our future euro-atlantic european union and how do you think we will join nato or the eu sooner ? what else do we need now? how do they think about the question of when and i won't answer? we are all fighting for it to happen as soon as possible instead. in my opinion, in the current situation, nato structures

more important for ukraine, because they guarantee what is needed now, that is, military support and protection later , after the victory, many ukrainian soldiers who are fighting say, well , they are joking, they are joking that we are already the nato army , they are just on paper like them and that shit it seems that now you are already the best army in nato because you are trained in combat , the ukrainian army is a ukrainian army, brave , capable and we really look at the hopes of the ukrainian military and with delight the ukrainians are the first to consume the humanitarian situation how the situation in poland with ukrainian refugees, is there enough funding for resources and how many ukrainian citizens are currently in the territory

of the republic of poland, it seems that one and a half million of them are people who have a registered so-called pesel number, which means that they have such the same rights that the mogol poles already have, that is, they have access to all payments, just like citizens of the republic of poland , to live in the polish-lithuanian commonwealth, all others do not have a pension number because for some reason no applied for it, because anyone can do it, everyone is trying to help, incredibly open to helping brothers from ukraine, a lot of children study in polish schools of medicine, everyone studies remotely in ukrainian schools or to the scale , but a lot joined the polish

education system, and children of ukraine and the truth is that the vast majority are people who do not expect help, help, help . they received help from the very beginning and it is still available to them, but really the majority is trying to be independent, they work. working in poland, there is practically no unemployment and anyone who wants to find a job will find it. i will find it difficult . blitz, the

last question is something motivating. that is why ukraine will win. they are in our hearts, you are ukrainians and we are volyaks independence national dignity is in our hearts with mother's milk this is who we are we will not give up for us dignity is a basic value thank you very much in cinema television sports music education in there is a choice of free ones, choose what you want on megogo fm galicia russian hackers attacked radio fm galicia they tried to break into

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become part of the community with a ukrainian perspective. chechered and also with us ihor kondratyuk tv presenter producer uh here we are with you mr. igor good day to you congratulations good day mr. iryna today by the way it's lina kostenko's birthday we are all like that we remind you that there is one such story. today we will talk a little about ukrainian artists in general, and don't you have the impression that people like lina kostenko are not visible enough? i understand that of course ms. lina is already 93 and we are glad that she lived to such an age and we wish her health, but this also applies to many others, but recently taras petrynenko celebrated his 70th anniversary. and here he is

with concerts and so on, but a person who made such high-quality, cool music back in the 70s and her something not on the radio byraktar former russkoe radio they don't even play his 70th anniversary some such and such moments are remembered on this date something similar happens to me or you too such thoughts come such thoughts come people who are responsible for the cultural policy of the ukrainian state they are responsible for the culture of a cultural nation and they don't feel it. this story is very complicated in the 21st century. it stuck out to you , probably because you know how to rant about what's on youtube. they still listen to the russians a lot nice, but we don't ask, but by the way, you're cool, you made an example that radio bayaktar could at least scroll through five songs

on the petrinenko terrace in honor of his 70th birthday, and we wouldn't spoil it in any way, and any radio yes, i'm a radio record what there was also russian radio, yes, there is no way to spoil your playlist, and not to violate any of your ideology, just give it to a man in ancient times who actually wrote groundbreaking songs for our country at a certain historical moment. and you know, you know, they are only ammunition - if you interrupted and they only if you scrolled, it would be ukraine for sure and that's all and that's all and that's all so you don't need to look if they scrolled through the song ukraine three times it would still be more than zero for the listeners of radio baratar compared to the zero that exists now it's all very relative a but you rightly noticed that uh, such things need to be noted uh , so lina kostenko

is not very present in our lina kostenko it's just that she won't be present if she um, if you don't smoke, you know there is such a thing a good word is modern, it is absolutely modern and it applies to all other topics except those for those who are 55+. from the point of view of their creativity and contribution to the development of the ukrainian nation, it must be eaten by people who are in this task , people who cannot win the shevchenko prize. the government is suffering , it is suffering, it is rotating, giving hands , you and i are now in the same story, of course lina kostenko well, for example, i saw today on the website, uh, novoe vremya won't come out. well, now it's called uh, a link to what 10 songs were written in modern ukrainian

by lina kostenko's poems. poetry, nevertheless, i am a little oriented that lina kostenko writes incomparable poems, it is not so easy to put them to modern music that corresponds to certain frequencies, beats, tempos in order to be in the rotation of the games. howls and to the russian occupiers, it’s a wonderful call, but isn’t it poetry? is it music? it’s put to music, then there’s an effort. are you afraid to say it? if it’s a word to say, because it’s a verb of russian motherly origin, you understand that it has nothing to do with ukraine at all. i listened to this song . and i am not sure that it is addressed to the russian

occupiers , yes , it is possible that it is addressed to political opponents. the singer povoroznyuk eh, i even sing poplavsky’s songs nothing but stinging my nettle, because i know the author of all of them, she worked for a long time, maybe she still works as the head of the culture department of the city of brovary , i’m sorry, dear, i forgot your name, but i’m not yet i have nothing to listen to, except for the nonsense and the absolutely inept hype of a person who is equal to herself, and the impression is that someone likes it. it is in order to kill a certain segment of the consciousness of those people who are watching what they are watching now. it is still possible to watch something of this kind in ukraine technology but well, we have democracy why you why you technology with a certain

political flavor and why i think it is not he himself who does it professionally people who work with them work with him work with his texts write to him well it is less than what i wanted to ask you, by the way, i will come to mr. poplavskyi's defense. he has it. i love it. we are 50 years old today . well, the years are flying by. the closer i get to 50 , the more organic you are to me. this song is coming. look, i wanted to ask you about e- e recently interviewed andriyu oleg skrypka regarding that wave of music in general that appeared after and songs after the invasion of the full-scale and oleg skrypka called this wave bayraktarj bayraktarshchyna correctly and by the way with scrypka then he had to repeatedly justify it because it caused some very wave of such things being recited in the past yes , the violin is really a lot of musical material that appeared after february 24th, which is exactly musical

material, there are neither songs nor compositions of any kind, just material that is pleasant there are a lot of war videos to watch, they are motivating, they create a feeling, well, such a feeling of mobilization, you want to go beat the enemy or mourn the dead, but this is not exactly art, and on the one hand, i understand that during a war, it is necessary to mobilize the nation in order for the nation well, what are the threats, the war will end sooner or later, god forbid that it will end soon, and the main thing here is that barrektarshchyna does not become mainstream after the end of the war, all ukrainian music is a threat. they won't do anything about it, you and all of us who consider themselves self-conscious ukrainians who want the development of a real ukrainian state and not just a general district and so on. everything else

is necessary. to think about the fact that at weddings, somewhere in priazov, they would dance to the song that you just talked about, and not to the accountant mil-mo- accountant or to some other russian devil eh, which will happen most likely eh, provided that our state will be continue to use snot and it will be like that to the end of our relationship with you, may god give you 100 years to live. and i don't see a problem in this at all, it's really situational music oleg, i'm sorry, oleg knows , i must have overheard, this kind of thing happens. slippers, how can it be, it will all fall away, it will all fall away like this. excuse me, even legendary ukrainian bands like van gogh. who else is there? maidanov is coming close now well

they told me that i hadn't been to weddings in a long time. well, somehow , there are many relatives in my family, but for some reason, apparently, for food at the wedding, it's at serdyuchka and dzidzo. it's already the second day. no, order money for the ensemble, i am talking about those who, relatively speaking, right bank of the dnieper. therefore, this is a situational story, how we have to come out of this war with some very polite patriotic works, during which there will be tears in the eyes of all of us, including those who who cares, but who doesn't care survived this terrible war and even they understood that it was just uh , the russian world kills. he always killed, but he always uh , always returned to a beautiful, fake, bright, scat and money, which is the most important thing for show business , wrapped up, that's why i i see problems i