tv [untitled] March 19, 2023 2:30pm-3:01pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] well, let's put it this way, i initiated a campaign in the red cross when everyone was. well, the internal nations all said that it was hopeless , but i said that we have no other tool for the protection of human rights than the conjugal convention. the red cross and i, er, hmm, let's say that i got access to the body of the person who is now the head of the red cross in ukraine, and there are three of us, er, i'm tanya and taro. we went to a meeting, and the meeting was more or less calm at first. i was just trying
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to convey er, that they should be actively included because i am contacted by people who say that we submitted a request to the red cross in june, because while the red cross receives the request and does not enter it into the system, it was submitted in june and only in december they registered us with this request, er, now they have started. i am already hearing from people, but just the other day, ah , i was contacted about a missing person. i told the red cross where to contact, so that they would register, they registered in one day. and we had a very difficult uh, talk later they also included tara who told yes yes well, she is not among us all of them and the biggest questions to the representatives of the red are quite justified yes and uh she asked what where were you where were you about me people were killed under me
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people were tortured at that time and we left this meeting. i don't know how the person who currently represents the red cross in ukraine felt, but we left this meeting with the intention of signing a memorandum between the dream foundation and the red cross specifically in the direction of working with prisoners and the missing. by the way for the information of the audience there, it is the financing of the missing missing persons that has the red cross, therefore the families that have a situation in the family when some of the family members are missing, missing, and civilians are wheelchair bound. it seems to me and values, yes, they can contact us again
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. yes, we can once again duplicate exactly where to contact the red cross in ukraine and, firstly , issue a search request, and secondly, you receive financial aid and it is in the description under the video, yes, we can, yes, we can place it and you also know that i was quite emotional in this conversation, is this what you know from mariupol, from other cities, children who were orphans, they were taken away yes to russia yes, and the conversation was so quite interesting when i asked them a question, listen a we have children there, in fact, they are in captivity. well, it’s, er, it’s the same, hmm, it’s the same deportation, and it’s not agreed upon, and how exactly are you going to return these children, right?
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the guarantor of the geneva convention, you have to do it. khresta said, we work only on applications, uh, relatives of relatives , i say which relatives are children, orphan children, orphan children - it should be, well, the state of ukraine can turn to you, yes, which is its guardian of orphans. i only know three orphanages that were taken out of mariupol in russia, and i am more than sure that this list is inexhaustible. she said let's make a request and we have prepared a request now to the state bodies of ukraine, for some reason no one is dealing with this, i don't know why, and we prepared these requests so that the state of ukraine, well, the state of ukraine there, in the person of some competent
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body, turned to the court the red cross exactly regarding the orphans who were forcibly deported and who are now in the territory of the russian federation, these are our children, they are our common children, we have to return them , we have already mentioned the state. i think many people will have a question, where is the state in this process, of course the state is the first who should deal with all these areas, the issues that the volunteers are working on, us, we understand that now we are so that now we are helping the compliance why well, you know, i am just now sitting and thinking, god, the 14th year of deja vu , yes, this should also be done by the state, yes, also e in there were cases when we negotiated with the representatives of the border guard of the russian federation sitting on zhilyansky at night. yes, in order to carry out under the white flags
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the wounded who were in the tochen, we negotiated . then i went to the ministry of defense and the jurors there waited for the helitei who blocked the entrance to the ministry of defense and in i had situations when i had 33 people who were not around, they were wounded , they were lying in the fields, and i got a call from the helite at night, and he said that i do not have such a situation, you know, there are many questions and now the same thing. why is the state not included in the we are in the ministry of social policy, have you seen somewhere that i ran a job for my veterans for a minute, a dead child was born, they don't care at all, but at the same time they work with big budgets, that's all i wanted to say , but this year they got 500 million million hryvnias for your work ministry of finance
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, ministry of education, ministry of veterans affairs and ministry of health, where is it? that is, he was taken out wounded now. direction listen, well, with great difficulties with great punishments with great there are some i don't want to say, well, let's be politically correct, yes , with great efforts, you know, we were probably the force that forces the state in the form of officials who are responsible for some directions to force us to start to do something, because if it is our initiative, if you are our appeals, there will be no our efforts, to be honest, i don't know if there will be any sense for my direction, i will say that we managed to build quite effective
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productive a-a relations with the coordination headquarters of the gur, this is exactly the organization that deals with the rights of prisoners and missing people. that is, we communicate quite adequately, we care for each other, they have a part of social services that they provide to people who apply to the coordination headquarters but there are cases when they simply cannot provide this same help to this family, then they turn to us and ask to help this family, and of course we take such a family under our care because, well, i have no moral right. because the situation is a little better with the military, for example, i will tell you about such social requests. yes, the mother of the prisoner of war is quite seriously ill, she does not even need medical help, medical care, yes
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, and, in the coordination headquarters of the mountains, they do not have any . funding or authority to provide this mother with the necessary medical care. then it would be possible to send this mother to the ministry of veterans affairs, who would take care of it and provide her with normal medical care and finance or the ministry of social policy, but at the moment we are talking about two ministries that are created by people living at the beginning of the war, they do not light up, they light up, they are actually a dead structure, that’s why they actually cannot provide help to this family, and that is why the coordinator there can refer such a person to us and we take this person under our care and provide him with the necessary assistance , too, when a family of civilian prisoners
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, for example, families of military prisoners mostly, but not all of them receive payments, families of civilian prisoners, they it seems that the party members will receive 4,200 there from the ministry of social affairs, but imagine if there are three or four, five children in such a family, oh, and imagine , kyiv region, kyiv region, in the villages of kyiv region, when the russians left, they took civilian men and women, and the old people were taken simply to cover the columns, so that our the columns were not broken, and now these people are actually in captivity in the russian federation since april, and it is extremely difficult for them to be exchanged with them , it is very difficult to extract one person at a time for several exchanges. it is very difficult to exchange these people, and they are their families now
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are in dire need due to the fact that this is actually the loss of a breadwinner in every such family. and here minsots should connect or issue the status of loss of breadwinner and assign a pension or excuse me. a representative of the ministry of defense and this was discussed in our country, according to the law, there should be a register of missing persons on the basis of this register according to the law . now we will say only what is on the paper on
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excuse me. according to this, according to the law, the person who submits the application is up, what is it there, yes , after that, this information must enter the register. and from that moment six months pass, if 6 months pass and the person is not found, then he is considered dead and already there some payments begin. and you, we have one problem . we do not have such a register. a year of war. people go there as military men, those who have lost military men, they constantly turn to the ministry of defense. the ministry of defense does not understand what to give them, so i asked why i mentioned yesterday 's meeting, because i was told by the representative of the ministry of defense, god says, these are the documents i am attaching. i do not understand what i am saying yes, this is exactly what the state has, it has such a structure , she prescribed it, she approved it, but it
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does not work, and there is a huge number of people who apply. they apply . the first thing is probably the preparation of documents. because yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, this is the very first question, because we have a very big problem of polonins, polonins, yes, civilians , in general. this is simply, simply, an unreal story , you disappeared here, i told you about this story, the dead. well, it's easier for the dead but we have a situation, well, this was even a discovery for me recently
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. not that is, people who have lost someone from their relatives have to go through 50 circles of hell in order to get the status of being born. regarding the payments, listen to the declared 15 million. well, let's be honest. monday, how can you get out of this situation, uh, how can you solve this, you know what you probably know that literally in january, the minister of defense already signed an order that the first three million will still be paid, and uh, the other funds will be extended by 40 months, but i can say the following, i am more than sure that this will not happen either, because the ministry of defense has its own budget
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, protected items of income according to this budget, this is the salary - this is weapons, this is food, this is protected items of income, this is what must be paid for everything else, if there are no funds, then there are none, and therefore either hope for international support or for reparations, which will one day be in order to cover themselves for reparations. yes, i am there. also, in the summer , we joined the draft law on reparations, er, because in order to go er- is to go and say that we need to pass this law internally, but the fact remains that there is no money now, let 's face it, there is no money. and you know, it happens very often when you start communicating, you say that we need help for the families of the victims, he says, "yes, they already have." there, the payments are so huge, why should good people help
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them? well, it’s not like that, it’s not like that. sometimes between the fact of death and the first money that comes to the family, it takes several months. of our applicants, for example, in march, a defender died, but their body could not be returned for a long time, he was listed as missing , then the body was returned and they still have not received payment because there are problems with the processing of documents because the military unit does not go to communicate with the parents because there problematic communication with the military authorities do not provide the necessary documents, and you understand that the people themselves are in shock. in severe grief, she also faces this huge clumsy bureaucratic machine that perceives them purely as statistics and not as
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living people. that's where the problem is with this and with this the problem is that there are only people in the military units who are authorized to communicate with their relatives. in the military committees, the people are actually not trained and they often behave in ways that are not humanely inadequate, and this is a serious problem . and here we have excellent partners. the center for the protection of human rights, the ukrainian center for the protection of human rights, who provide legal assistance, who help people to get through this entire bureaucratic machine, who help people to draw up all these letters, requests , they are doing a lot of work even now in fact, all the people who contacted us and indicated in the questionnaire that they do not have formalized status documents, we redirect them there to this ukrainian center for the protection of human rights so that they can at least start the stage
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of formalizing the documents. yes, we cooperate with them and they do a lot in this direction, because they have lawyers who specialize in this , who know where to go, how to go, how to request documents , and what requests to submit, and this is extremely important and it is a significant help for such families , it means such uh when you start studying the requests and you look at what people are asking for and you start to get traumatized about this tra- well, you get traumatized because you understand and you know that such stories are sometimes like that, well, such stories come across, what are they? you don't even realize how such a thing is possible, for example there is the donetsk region
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, which is under the control of ukraine, a village in which a family died in which the breadwinner of the house died, the house was destroyed, and there are no children to live in. i understand the state of the payments, we do not have many requests for i am impatient in the kyiv region, yes, in the kyiv region, we have a lot of requests. there is no roof on the house, there is no house there, it is impossible to rent a house to rent a house, that is, you all know that. i would really like it not to be talked about from the tv screens about the fact that families will receive, but they are now receiving help because that when they say
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this, well, it is not true today and it e-e eliminates the problems that such families have and when we start saying so let's help us in e-e they answer us yes the state provides the state does not provide and once again i want e such communication failure, yes, you understand, it turns out not to be the right communication. we are saying diametrically opposite things. yes, and er, in this matter, i would like to point out once again. do we all have to get used to the idea that all these families who are left without breadwinners are breadwinners , all these families - this is our joint social responsibility of the entire state of ukraine, and we will not be able to get rid of this problem, because if we get rid of it, we will have very big
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problems in the future . to the audience where to find well, we can also leave the props. i think we will show them how every ukrainian can help uh your fund and in this way help uh our families of our soldiers you know conscientious ukrainians they already help the army i think so i hope that your viewers definitely help, but if you feel a need, if you feel an interest. if you want to help, of course, you can transfer any passive amount for you, e.e., if something happened in your family.
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such grief and you need legal help, psychological help, even humanitarian help, you can apply to fill out the questionnaire, the questionnaire is forged on the page of the ukrainian foundation, the dream can be found on facebook, and also on instagram , or go to this page or mine, and there you can find a link to it fill out this questionnaire now we are changing the system a bit but it will not affect the collected data that we are collecting now we are processing all these tasks we are looking for any possibility to close if it is a private company that produces something that it is necessary for these families, in particular, clothes, shoes, etc., you can certainly contact the data, whether it is a person or me, and we will gladly accept help even with ready-made
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products. it is necessary and we are ready to accept this help and will be extremely grateful. what would you like to add to what tanya said? yes, there are details now . the details are on pages a-and we can leave the details. but uh, i'm thinking about another time, every ukrainian in sufficiently well-known places and in sufficiently well-known, let's say, the internet uh-uh communication uh-uh places will see uh-uh or banners or information or transition uh- link to uh-uh page
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dream foundation and when you see it, i appeal to the audience, when you see it, please go if you even leave 10 hryvnias and they will help . the only thing i can add is that even when people have there is no way to help financially, it is very important to always see who is next to you, maybe neighbors live next to you who need banal hugs for support, maybe the mother of a prisoner lives nearby who needs help with food or to take her to the hospital, maybe a young woman with a small child or a man lives nearby in captivity or died and this woman needs help with the care of children, just be attentive to
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those around you and this society in which you are now helping which you can now thanks to its attention to help, it will then return this attention to you and this same help is very important, well, that's right . that's exactly what she said about . well, we have to tell our children that there are families that need more attention . well, tell your child that they have invited you upstairs . hmm, there is time to go for a walk together. to say that well, come on, i'll walk in the park with your little one for three hours and just be
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be more humane and understand that all those families that surround us are very many, very many of you already know. it hurts me a lot when a month ago i was asked by a close person to help, and last night she wrote to me prjsc , it wasn't so much an onion that died for me, do i understand what is this number of people who have lost someone? of their relatives, some people simply have old parents left. there were none on the street. well , we know. yesterday we buried dmitri eh da vinci . he had no children. the bride too well, there is a separate story yes, everything is very painful there, everything remains
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parents, parents may need banal food, banal medicine, banal, just come and listen to them how their child grew up, because it is important to them, that is, i appeal to everyone who hears the interview center simply to everyone look around you see these families see these eyes in which there is complete pain complete suffering and complete complete need for your attention your help and do something for them for them even if you come to hug them and you say that the speaker will be very important, i want to end the conversation with an appeal, let's not be indifferent, let's remember that the war is going on, there will be even more such stories
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and don't forget about it. let's think about the fact that the state is now engaged in our victory, and these families, these children which we talked about - this is our responsibility with you , so join the fund we and details and all the links and the questionnaire also for if you need such help we will leave it in the description thank you for this conversation dana yarova dad because tatyana complex thank you thank you cinema television sports music education free people have a choice choose what you want on megogo pot like ukraine new project of the espresso channel a project about war and ukraine spotlight ukraine a product that does better journalists and experts
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