[000:00:00;00] of course, when we look at the war in ukraine and talk about international international norms, it’s a bit difficult because we see that russia violates all the norms , but not only in the air space. full-scale assertions invasion of ukraine ah but we will continue our action and we will insist that russia violated these norms, mr. andrey , if it was not specifically as you say, why then the minister of defense of russia that he issued state awards even to pilots su-27 that carried out how they said this operation well, i can't er-er find out why er-er что which one or another person in er-er in

the russian government is acting in this way and i can just say that from our side we we will continue to act rationally. and we will continue to support ukraine so that ukraine can resist such aggression. if we talk about what i see today from the united states political dialogue is important on the eve the visit of the president of china, all the calls to moscow are you political, the political situation in america, or uh, they talk about political dialogues precisely in the solution of the ukrainian crisis , because here we see uh, uh, how uh, uh, it is being prepared in moscow, equitably introduce to

the chinese people's republic of china, mrs. sidimpin the programs were, you know, the signing of the agreement and the suldovskaya wound, and in beijing there is such an obvious foreign policy competition because china, er , can er play some kind of role, and we saw a few weeks ago when er, china gave er her plan for peace, although er there was a contradiction, we see that on the one hand it is very important to play this role in order to help put an end to this war, and on the other hand china wants uh very close contact with russia and uh morally help uh kremlin so there are a few contradictions and the fact that the usa wants it

so that we want to put an end to this war that's very easy putin can uh сегодня put an end to this war and withdraw troops from ukraine a-a m-m and as it is written in er-er in this plan china or in the chinese plan eh maybe eh observe the sovereignty and er and all the borders of ukraine a-a but he does not do this a-a what will happen after the visit to moscow er-e-e after the chinese visit to moscow i can’t say but a-a we need to eh everything eh they shot precisely at that how can it be possible to put an end to this not in ukraine and ultimately it is not china that will solve it exactly a-a ukraine so that uh-uh the usa will uh-uh work with

our partners and support ukraine a-a in order to a-a ukraine has the best position and can a-a m-m a-a when the time comes speaks in diplomatic language with moscow, then ukraine will be the strongest position - this is their discussion, ms. andrea is also interested in your internal political changes , let's talk. because the ex-president of the united states , donald trump, is planned to be arrested again , this time, as he said, it will happen on tuesday this time for the case of payment of money for silence to a porn star. please tell me how this affects the election campaign, which is not official yet, but nevertheless it has already started. a diplomat, i cannot comment

on the political profession within america, but i know that this is why the planet is what i would like to say that we hear a lot - and at eight and even with the russian side that the internal political situation in america is connected with the elections that will be or are connected with other events a-a m-m a-a affects the e-e support of the united states for ukraine it is well i want to say that this is not the case, and i want to tell all your builders that the american people support ukraine a-a it's not only the biden administration a-a it's not only er-er er-er hmm one party or another

party - it's republicans and democrats support ukraine er-er and er-er i think that er- even after the elections, you will see that our support remains very strong, and here i am, for example, from texas , and i was very pleased that, recently , on february 24, even in my city, where before the war, probably many people did not know about ukraine, they did not know about the occult in ukraine what does the flag of ukraine look like, and on february 24, in my city, it was in the center of the city , it was in red, in blue and white, and in the light. yes, it was the center of the city.

everything is in blue and yellow, and it was so nice to see that americans in different cities in america support ukraine , they want russia to stop its aggression against ukraine and that we are all at peace ukrainians, americans, and different peoples could just live peacefully and er continue er make friends continue er our life and we we thank the americans for their support. when the words of foreign policy disagreements between the united states and ukraine appear in the american media, there were many such resonant texts this week. politics, the washington post , ukraine reacts very seriously to them, but perceives them, uh, out of habit, it can be such signals as almost

my official position, to be honest, i saw you in the media and what i see in your work and in the relationship between the usa and ukraine is that we work so closely, we have oh very regular contact er every day er and er we er we when i speak we a-a er the biden administration a-a it er-e er-e in general americans support ukraine and i do not see that there are some uh fissures a-but on the contrary uh-uh recently we met that the president went and came to kiev a-and he saw with his own eyes uh-uh the situation uh-uh in ukraine a-uh he spoke with president zelensky precisely in

kyiv to demonstratively show our together a-a today tomorrow the day after tomorrow until the end of this war and even after because we understand that after the war it is necessary to provide e-e help and further to restore ukraine after this terrible war thank you thank you thank you we will still remain in such an international perspective because now we will talk with maria galyti geleti expert balconist candidate of political well congratulations ms. eh maria congratulations you know i'm all this air well as much as i can because i still need to talk to people who we invite you to follow the meeting

of the president of serbia, aleksand, the prime minister of kosovo, albin kurki, in macedonian ohrid, it is continuing now just a few minutes ago , the next round started and i have great hope that this meeting will bring the long-awaited settlement in the balkans. however , i i see that president luchsich already said during the meeting with the journalists, god forbid that he is not going to sign anything if there are no agreements, and i have such a question, why did he go there then? well i think this is another round of negotiations, plus there are such opinions that it is expected that the student can in some way influence the decisions regarding the elections that are to be held in kosovo , the local elections, because the representatives of the serbian minority or the serbian community left the parliament and now it is expected that somewhere in april there will be an election where

you these representatives were to be elected and it is expected that the decision that can be reached there is one of those decisions that is the actual decision regarding the elections in kosovo. but i think that you are right that very it is not worth expecting any progress at the moment regarding the situation regarding relations with kosovo and serbia. i think that this is another round of negotiations , it is not yet a final decision . of the west regarding the fact that as the west saw the settlement of this issue, there is also the question of the recognition of kosovo by serbia and also the issue of the municipalities of serbian kosovo, so i think that these are just negotiations, most likely , nothing will be signed, and they will simply be reached

agreements that will somehow eventually be formalized into a document because kosovo still has this kind of protest against the formation of these municipalities and i understand them because it's really a problem because it can turn into a problem of the serbian part of bosnia, which can then affect the stability of the region and the unstable kosovo as a whole. mrs. maria can reduce the tension. is it still impossible without signed documents? no, of course they will reduce the tension, but we must understand that you in serbia itself, there are many who are not in favor of the recognition of kosovo, who consider kosovo to be part of serbia. these are more nationalist movements, and the problem is that now these protests are taking place in serbia, and uluchysh is somewhat a hostage to this situation because he is a politician. with experience, he understands that he must take into account the interests of various

groups that exist in serbia, and in serbia there are various movements that seek more european integration, and there are those who are close to russia, support russia, and those who do not want to recognize kosovo, that is, they are ready to give up associate membership in the face of membership in the eu for the sake of those interests , namely keeping kosovo as a part of its territory at the time, well, it is really impossible now, that is, well , they are ready to give up money. this history of serbia, you know, yugoslavia is the inability to get money has been like this for the last 100 years, why should i change it now ? i think in fact that this is all used in the teacher of negotiation. use the fact that the protests are taking place in serbia and will ask for more

money in order to be able to convince those opponents who are against this decision. well, look now , the representative of the united states in the western balkans, gabriel escobar, just a few minutes ago, in an interview with radio free europe er serbian services and said that without er recognition of kosovo by serbia, without recognition of kosovo by serbia, there is no way to europe for both of these identities, well, this is actually clearly stated either there or here very much like that or serbia recognizes kosovo and kosovo is moving towards different institutions, but kosovo can move towards different institutions and without this recognition, serbia needs this recognition in order to normalize relations with kosovo. they have to come to terms with the situation that they lost kosovo as part of their territory and they have to accept that kosovo is now independent and can move forward, that is, to international

institutions, in particular, the european union , the united nations, the council of europe, etc. therefore, i agree that this is for them, well, this is a decision that they already in fact, they cannot avoid it. but of course there will always be protests by those who are against uh, and that is understandable. the main thing is that it does not turn into some threatening protests about the european vector of serbia. they have changed some kind of political position regarding ukraine and, let's say, to the benefit of our country. i don't believe in the balkans. of course, they have people who support european integration and really want to integrate

into the eu, but in recent years, in particular, last year there were assessments of support for integration into the eu, and it was very low, the lowest. probably for many years, the question here is most likely money and the opportunities that they get from the west if they move in line with the west, and this all follows and this all affects how they behave towards ukraine, that is , the fact that for the first time they, uh, start talking about possible sanctions against russia, also when they talk about the fact that they do not recognize crimea and the occupied territories as some other units and not a part of ukraine, although in this case when they talk about crimea and about , for example, the dpr, the dpr, the lpr , it is not about ukrainian interests. are they in step with europe or with the west? and what they are basically saying about kosovo is that if

they recognize crimea and recognize the dpr of the lpr , then they actually recognize independence in a way, that is, they are playing their own game and you have to understand that they are trying to be as effective as possible use the moment to to get as many advantages as possible for myself, i generally see the situation with serbia and the balkans now, as it happened during the second world war, when there was actually a struggle for the balkans for its slavia between the west and the soviet union, and each also offered certain benefits for yugoslavia it seems to me that serbia will now take advantage of this moment and is trying to use this moment most effectively for itself in order to get the best support , in principle, it can be assumed that belgrade is finally through will be forced to determine this or in the eyes will be maneuvering like this constantly constantly say yes it seems to me that they

are getting closer to being together with the west , we understand that you know international relations can never relax because the recent statements of the ambassador of russia in serbia that they they can get support from any high-ranking russia and if necessary, plus there is talk of the fact that there are currently 20,000 russians on the territory of serbia, and this is also a question of who are these who are these russians are they military or are they some agents that can be used for example, for some kind of confrontation, there is also a question as to how well they can maneuver themselves, but it seems to me that the event promised a lot and this is very beneficial to russia , because i remember when buchach met with the parliament when they discussed this proposal of the event and when there was actually a voted decision that they agree with this, then it narrows, he actually said

then that you understand that we have an option either we agree with these proposals or we will be in a situation where we will actually find ourselves on the edge of relations, that is, we are the same will be limited in all resources , we will not have access to anything and we will be limited as a country, therefore, in fact, this is the limitation of serbia , well, the possibility of being limited and not having the opportunity to move forward, and on the other hand , they have a promise that membership will be accelerated, plus -e finances plus resources i think this is a very important and important argument for myself in order to go together with serbia with the west to move eh to eh to membership and at the same time it is understandable to support the position of the west regarding ukraine as well and why putin eh bucha for autointerceded for putin this i would say from the noise of the story with the extradition of sloboda to milosevic's hague or just love for putin himself. as for the characters

, i thought about it too. in fact, i agree. i think this story is about sloboda milosevic himself, but i suspect that in general, the balkans, in particular, serbs they don't understand our war with russia. they don't understand why we are fighting so hard. i think they perceive the soviet union and, let's say , the ukrainian attitude to everything that we went through during the time as part of the soviet union as the former slavia. they don't understand that the soviet union was much worse than the former yugoslavia, and that's why when we fight for independence, they think, well, it's probably something like there, someone from our former republics fought in principle. nothing so serious happened there, uh, but they fought there, i don't know, for economic reasons interests, and i think that this is not an understanding of our war, he does not understand why we are fighting for our freedom, for our independence, this is the first

reason, friend. i think that uh, he is also afraid that a real decision can affect putin's behavior there, although on the other hand side in my opinion, such a decision limits putin himself and it gives the russians a chance, for example, someone who is not satisfied with the situation, which is possible to think and follow the path of how serbia went with the slobodas by milosevic. well, there was a revolution after all, it was real, and it must be said that if you compare sloboda, we are whitewashed with putin , agree with maria miloshi, of course there was a dictator, but this dictator had an opposition that could even win the elections in the capital of the country, there were free publications that were published directly in belgorod, let's say there magazine vremya imagine a magazine with such content in moscow , there was also a magazine that clearly stated that milosevic was a dictator and that serbia was waging aggressive wars, it was all written directly there, and you could

go to a kiosk in belgorod and say i want to buy this and sit down for a coffee you can read it in russia, maybe you can sit somewhere in a coffee shop with a laptop, but just buy an opposition magazine now , well, there are no chances, they are zero and this was even during the war, even during the war, all this was published in serbia. well, you know from such dictatorships for all that, it is easier to fight between er with putin's dictatorship i agree but i think that this question is not quite it seems i mean that it is putin's entourage that is close to him can take a similar path and try or i don't know there er remove putin or extradite him or negotiate some kind of agreement by means of which way they can send someone somewhere to a country where it is potentially safe for putin and arrest them, well, that is, a way can probably be found if they found these people

who would like to act according to a similar example, well i.e. of course, this is an adapted example, but it's them, it's the example that was in our recent history, because sloboda milosevic, i think he was one of those leaders who was recently prosecuted for property in the international criminal court, you know here there is another panology. when society literally demolishes the bashkutyscha, it is called that. i remember very well that in serbia it was possible to calmly talk about slovenes, macedonians , croats, they were already starting to fight to a certain extent about muslims, but when you started with to talk about kosovo, they literally endured a hard time, they didn't talk, they were just filled with rage, they just lost their sense of communication , which is not healthy. this is how they are beginning to treat ukraine, as the kosos do, that's what

worries me, maybe it's because they have the way of the serbs from kosovo, in general, there is some kind of story, they consider the kosovars a part of the serbian state, and when the serbian state is the truth about the fact that all of this was there gracha no, this is kosovo , poles, all of this is not kosovo, there is no serbia without croatia, they are bad scoundrels , but without croatia, there is serbia, but without kosovo, there is no russia , and without ukraine, there is no russia, yes, you found my opinion, this is the truth by the way, it's interesting that you noted that because i somehow uh no no no no didn't try to compare these things because for me the balkans are always very different from ukraine but yes it's true that they are similar in that approach and uh for some reason it's very difficult for the serbs to lose kosovo, although it is clear now to fight for

there is no sense in kosovo anymore. after everything that happens, it will not become part of serbia, unless it will be some part of it. i don't know. i don't know how i imagine that when they integrate into the eu, for example, it will be just separate countries that are members of the eu, but they will live somewhere in the same community and so it is a similar situation with uh from russia but to be honest - these are different things because kosovo really was the cradle of the uh serbian state there, there are many monasteries that are serbian, if we are talking about ukraine then ukraine was the first is that we can actually say that we founded muscovy, and in fact we can say that we claim this territory and not the other way around. that is, you know, these are completely opposite things, although russia constantly uses there and kosovo as its own in its manipulations as a precedent for secession, for example, of crimea or the dpr of the lpr or any occupied territory and

it will always use it thank you thank you mrs. maria maria galetei expert balkan candidate of political sciences we will continue to monitor what is happening in ohrid if something happens in this hour i don't think so, i'm explaining, we'll explain, yes, there will be a short pause but we will be back very soon with mr. vitaly portnikov, so stay tuned tv kurt music education free people have a choice choose what you want on megogo de-occupation how can you live simply for yourself you can unsurpassed history liberated cities of ukraine went let's see how our brothers helped us

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, special icons and the possibility of personal communication with the espresso team, click to sponsor and become part of the community with a ukrainian perspective, we continue the saturday political club program anzhelika sazonka, we congratulate everyone who joined our broadcast , the time has come when mr. vitaliy will answer my question, and i will, of course, raise the most important topics. this week, we will start with that already today the warrants for the arrest of putin and the russian children's ombudsman maria lvivova belova were partially discussed, so putin became the fourth leader of the state who received a direct ticket let's say it to the hague. however, if we talk about the three previous leaders of sudan, libya, yes, they didn't receive a sentence

. gaddafi killed the leader of sudan , he was not extradited . and he is 79 years old, there is already a lot in the process, but what is interesting is that according to sudanese law, after 70 years , you cannot serve a term. he is in prison in what is called a correctional center, well, such a humane country. and in this regard, of course , the machine is unlikely to get into the harbor regarding president gabonagbak , because he was already brought to justice after the loss of power and his acquittal. gesture, of course, we began to perceive it emotionally, although we saw the comments of experts putin

can be arrested in each of the 123 countries that signed the rome statute well, first of all, we need to be interested in which of these countries he can visit vladimir putin, since kyiv has little in principle, he can go to the united states, which has not ratified the rome statute, and speak at a session of the general assembly, he can go to beijing, he can go to delhi, and china and india have not ratified the rome statute , of course, the most interesting moments have happen when a person who is under this warrant ratifies and goes to a country that has ratified the rome statute, and here is an experiment because president bashif traveled to such countries, as far as i remember, his trip was to the summit of the african union they say how putin will go to the brics itself to the south african republic, he came there