[000:00:00;00] the earth is flat, for example, well, there is a category of people who are convinced that we are being fooled all our lives, but in fact the earth is flat, or there are examples of vaccinations, you know what kind of attitude is different to this. what do you think, is this example even possible? to discuss in such a context that well, people really need to be reminded from time to time that black is black and white - this is white and to kill other people even under the pretext of the fact that there is some mysterious roxophobia, a disease that, well, exclusively in the minds of russians there is that it's really well, from time to time it is necessary to somehow remind or is it not clear, snyder's speech is extremely important simply because all other states are here we live in ukraine and at the moment all other states are citizens, so they can behave in a completely different way from these states

here, first of all, they don’t have a war, they don’t have such a thing as the death of relatives, what is it like when rockets and bombs fall on your head, that is , they do not experience all this in the same way, and secondly, in other countries, russian propaganda is very active. there are many cheap russian propaganda tv channels that invest their negatives, and because of this, even in the usa there are people who believe that russia is more right than ukraine , as well as what to say about the countries of latin america, asia, africa, where in general russian narratives traditionally had a sufficiently serious popularity, plus a full-scale war has been going on for the second year and ukraine is no longer, so to speak, constantly in the top of the news, as it was in february, march 22nd, it is necessary to constantly remind about it. and the inhabitants of other societies could, so to speak, already forget, and how it all began. and how is it it started and who is really guilty and who is not, that's why snyder did a very good thing and

it is necessary to constantly remind about it. and i would like to add that this tactic is when the aggressor tries to demonstrate himself as a victim in order to arouse sympathy and support , well, it's simple and logical yes, it is very similar to what nazi germany was doing in the second world war, let's remember how they attacked poland, how they arranged it from their side, that it was a polish provocation , a polish attack on the gliwice radio station the poles invaded their territory as if it was a special operation of the german special services and they were simply forced to defend themselves and strike back , the soviet union did the same by attacking finland when they fired at their troops and supposedly presented themselves as victims before attacking and so by the way, in september 1939, nazi propaganda promoted the topic of what poland was saying when the germans invaded poland and the poles began to kill ethnic

germans, that is, crimes against civilian ethnic germans who lived in poland were simply happening the genocide of the germans is word for word what they said about the shelling of donetsk the day before the party, this is exactly why they, the empire, are trying to show themselves as a victim in order to abdicate responsibility or at least reduce a serious one, confuse the public opinion of other countries and gain some empathy. but if they say that, well it means that it works, if russia follows these patterns, it means that the world continues to consume and perceive them . well, why doesn't the world learn? well, why doesn't the world learn history? why do they continue to see white and say black well, why this substitution and why is it so easy to confuse people? when things seem obvious. they see the destroyed houses of murdered children . why do they still allow themselves to be deceived by some chimeras like russophobia

? it is very easy to confuse people in general. people are extremely easy to be manipulated. they know history in quotes, well, little. part of humanity, because a tiny part of humanity is interested in real history, analyzes it somehow draws its conclusions , it is actually very difficult to do, it is not so easy, therefore it is much easier for some mass conduct propaganda that will educate and influence people and put some ready-made ideas into their heads. that is why it has always worked, it is working now, and that is why it is necessary to fight it effectively and regularly. mykola . why do you think the world continues to consume this message ? is it really a lack of understanding whether to buy russian gas and oil in exchange for not noticing what is happening

, this is what ukrainians do, the truth is that they buy less there. answers to difficult questions for the second time, russia lost both on the battlefield and in the media, and the world bit her and the world threw her out of this respectable club, remember until the 14th year she was in the g8 tony blair just dragged putin with both hands there and then how quickly it was thrown out is a similar story, i am more than sure that the place of russia in the un will go round and round like when there are places which countries take turns and why russia is not brazil brazil has more people more economy more influence is it more or only nuclear armed does it affect like let's raise the question, for example, why india has less influence and 10 times more people, the economy is many times bigger, why doesn't india have such influence, but russia is the post-cement sentiments of the soviet union. but russia is not the soviet union, and it is also now selling that it is ours the territory of influence is not true. ukraine is an independent state. we are one of those countries that founded the un. that is why we

need to impose these narratives now, and we need to refuse to cut off the old propaganda narratives, and it is very cool that snyder did that because after all, we live in honor of the media. we live in the time of the show - this is a star, very authoritative, world-famous historian . that is, it is not just someone who came out . which no one has either in latin america, or in india, or in china, or any other countries . for example, if we talk about russophobia, maybe it would be like that if it happened on the territory of russia, but here, just quoting e- e phrases that are in ukraine have already become popular, and our russophobia is not enough. they don't throw down monuments to pushkin in russia. well, for example, they have their own house , we came there and say we will throw down pushkin monuments. there were aggressors, we

are doing decolonization. these are the things that happened, for example, in india after britain which african countries passed after france, which asian countries passed after holland - this is decolonization . yes, because you are in someone else's house, and this is something that needs to be conveyed to the world in simple terms . ukraine is actually doing a lot in this regard. we currently have public recruitment for several dozen embassies around the world. we are now in our 23rd year as a country and have started working with the global rooster. messages are delivered to latin america, africa, asia, we have now started working not only with western partners, the largest, most influential , strongest, but also with countries, including those with the largest population, the global south , a very, very interesting topic, it has now appeared in information space of ukraine we talk a lot about it mr. volodymyr, what is the global south, what kind of countries are these and what is their

historical influence on the world, this includes africa, latin america, the countries of south asia, well, everything south of it goes to russia, but it is traditional. unfortunately, ukraine paid little attention to relations with these countries, and there this test is for russophobia, it works here, there is such a thing that these countries. a significant part of them, not all, but a significant number, are former colonies, so they too in the 20th century, they passed the stage of decolonization, but who were their colonizers, they were britain, france, partly , germany, spain, portugal, a state like the philippines, for example, the states will be ot, and accordingly, their attitude towards these states for inertia remains quite prejudiced to a large extent, and in the 20th century, the soviet union is very good played the card

of the fight against colonialism, he invested enormous funds in the support of various insurgent revolutionary movements there in order to shake up the western democracies in order to cause maximum damage to the nato bloc to the allies of the usa there, etc. in the western world and simply in these countries, you are africa , latin america, asia, such a public opinion was often formed that they say that the soviet union helped us, it is a good country. and russia is simply perceived as a direct continuation of this tradition, the successor of the soviet union in principle, few people can even there and understand the difference that happened, the soviet union collapsed, well, there is russia, a substitute of some sort now in this place. that is why various narratives can well enter there, therefore, with this we have to work constantly, it is clear that countries such as russia and the usa are able to keep their embassies in almost every

country in the world. ukraine does not have such a change, they do it their politics there gradually in the last decades , we have a subwoofer on the air, the founder of the center for strategic communications, love tsibulska , she told about their communications in the countries of the global cock, and they directly say that it's okay if you do that russia is fighting against the entire western world, so we're for russia, because ah, all this yours civilized world he once colonized us if you tell us that you have a genocide there in ukraine excuse us here people were sold in the bazaars don't tell us what genocide is you don't know what genocide is and that's why this message is from russia that we are from it let's laugh further, but russia is being suppressed, they hate it, we are laughing at it, or for most

countries of the south, it works and these countries also have votes in the un. because, by the way, the population of these countries is growing, their economies are still growing in one way or another, but their influence will grow , especially in asia, where more than half of the world's population lives, this region must be actively worked with, and ukraine must invest in this and train real specialists who are specialists and specialize in specific areas of specialists . contest well, not without leaving the topic at all, but diplomacy is a very elite profession, but for example, i now know several soldiers who have a diplomatic education but did not go

to work. because well, who can be a diplomat? in the country, who can be a military man, everyone go and defend, take a weapon, and this is but a social elevator has opened for the military, he says i know chinese, i would, i would work i have a higher education from taras shevchenko and i want to go try it and it is served on walls that do not have competition where africa no one wants to go again, why did many of us also not want to go to africa to latin america, there are no super languages ​​well , brussels is great, the children are in a great school , you have a great salary, you have good, tasty food, but to go to lebanon and be afraid what about there may be a shot at every window, or there will be an explosion in the port, not tens of tons of some dry mixture , i will tear down a dangerous one, that's actually here, too . we opened up, we are now a very young living democracy, the largest.

somewhere they can win, somewhere they can win the second, but like, look, they will become specialists, first of all, what should we be specialists in, it is from ukraine, and for example, if we are talking about an african country completely with greens, the fact that they were also colonized and we will say, look, here you go two texts, two verses, a couplet in literal terms, one and the other. say which one you are and believe me. they always choose taras shevchenko, not pushkin, because pushkin is imperial, he is conqueror, and shevchenko is the one who fought against people like russia, and we need to say that you suffered from the likes of russia , france, spain, and other countries, you accuse us of being westerners, so we are to blame , we accuse you of being africans or latin americans, but this is not an accusation . the question is that our future is honestly cynical. with several of their ambassadors, he spoke to them, they still say that. and what do we say about your war? well, we are fighting , well, you say for yourself, what do we say? well, i say. well, okay, we sold you grain for 600 million people per year this year, and you did not starve, there was no disaster. do not put

became refugees in europe, he says this is the argument of the markets, we will open up, we will work. they too. to be honest, you were the ones who ruled africa when there was the soviet union, not russia, but the soviet union has disappeared from them. you come back and we have to go. and in fact, on the one hand, these humanitarian narratives from on the other hand, we need to carry trade, but it is very important that we do not go there now, only with chicken , grain, oil, honey. well, there are also some raw materials, we need to go there with ukrainian products, what you started south korea, yes. they also started there with squid, but today they are already exporting a movie about squid, dates that earn billions, or do they produce music there, they produce cool cars there, in fact, if you look at these new generations, they produce phones, they sell them, that is, already super high-tech opportunities and this is about ukraine . yes, we are probably selling squid somewhere now, but our next step for these countries, including asia and africa, is all growing markets, these are very growing

markets, and we enter them in large numbers of our goods, it closes their questions, it solves their problems, that's why we really need to use this war, including as a tool not just to win in order to close, but a tool to become global, we will now appear somewhere in 50 countries in a year , few people did such an expansion in the 21st century it seems that our achievement here is not that we have some very good products although they are good the fact is that we are our main expert product now it is values ​​and the actual struggle for freedom is what we are doing now choosing our own not just our freedom, one's dignity and one's own right to life and this is obvious to ukrainians, but obviously not obvious to the un, because it is precisely this group of experts who visited ukraine for a certain period of time and made some such preliminary conclusions, they made that we do not see signs of genocide so far in ukraine, although these signs of genocide are obvious

to us , let us at least mention one of the accusations that putin has been accused of. to a country to another country. although they have no right to do so, they give us up there for adoption in camps that are called rehabilitation, but in fact in these educational camps russians tell us that ukraine is not an existing state and that in fact they saved them and not just they were taken from their hometown with er from the family that was equal to them and this is actually one of the signs of genocide, but for some reason the un did not see this ukrainians were taken to wrangel bay to work at fishing enterprises in whole echelons and the russians themselves it was also filmed on video kadyrov is taking ukrainian youth to chechnya to a re-education center, mr. vladlyna - these are signs

of genocide from the point of view, again , of the history of genocide in our country . it is also a very lively topic for us , it is clear that before the beginning of the full-scale invasion, it was more relevant, so obviously now there are more relevant tragedies, probably , but still, this tragedy, as they say, must be draw attention to it and it will not disappear anywhere in the air, how many countries have recognized the holodomor as genocide, about 20 for the entire time , despite all the efforts of our diplomacy, that is, all this is extremely not easy, and such a decision is rarely adopted in the un. and when there is some consensus, so far unfortunately there is no and why a different approach in the interpretation of political political reluctance why what is behind

it we can assume any options as well as not direct opposition from russia itself up to bribery and to anything else to their and various subversive influences to the fact that in general the un unfortunately, it has shown itself in recent years as an organization that very poorly justifies very weakly the visits of secretary-general guterres to ukraine, to moscow, they not only did not lead to anything, putin even demonstratively emphasized that for him the un secretary-general is a nobody and took the famous photos where he is 10 m from him, and then as soon as guterish left for kyiv , he sent rockets after him, saying that you are not here at all. so, we want to discuss one more topic. this is actually what the ukrainians

perceived as being overly nervous about me. oscar, who received a documentary film about oleksiy navalny, and uh, there was another film that participated in the competition, which was about ukraine, but it was filmed even before the beginning of a large-scale war, a house made of scrap metal, and it was about an orphanage where the teachers tried as best they could to organize a normal life and to these children on the front line but nevertheless, navalny won , and actually it was not navalny himself, not even a film about him, but navalny himself is in prison , if anyone does not know, and for some reason ukrainians reacted very nervously to this, on the one hand that before the oscars, the organizers of the oscars refused to give a speech to our president, yes, and this is the political forces, yes, this is, well, in my opinion , it’s still ah-ah, it’s similar. it adds, if it’s true, but it was navalny, for some reason, who caused

such a violent reaction of ukrainians because they decided that yes russophobia is not enough because they found some russians who for the first time so long ago the russian muradova also won the nobel prize, now eh, here is the movie navalny eh. how do you think the outrage of ukrainians is purely emotional? of course you can to understand from the other side well, there is nothing bad in this film, it says that putin is a scoundrel and this is actually a very useful narrative for ukrainians. what do you think, mrs. navalny? and why did you wear such a beautiful dress and never once mentioned the war in ukraine is navalny's imprisonment the biggest tragedy this year or, for example, the hundreds of thousands of people killed. for example, in mariupol, it is less of a disaster for the world to serve what navalny himself emphasizes in every case, in fact, in every court hearing

that he condemns this war in ukraine and we do now . that's why he sits in schizo like a rake - just the director of this film mentioned it. at the ceremony, he remembered another phrase that said that crimea is not a sandwich and that's why he paid for it too he also has to pay for it, he had it for many years. such a terrible loss of reputation because of this. but maybe something changed to a different position if in the 13th year he went on stage when millions of russians stood and said they went to novogarovsk , they are killing the dictation . to say that the dictator should be overthrown by himself prison for corruption, even though such a person would be there for 300 years, 300 are not killed . well, they took him and put him in prison for every billion a year . well, then he would have 300-400 years. well, the question is that for some reason. i wouldn't say that it's an ok emotion. it was a certain negative emotion , including that, but the ukrainians said now, look, you are forbidding us to go out with a political motive, but you are not

politics and at the same time you are giving the politician and his family a speech, the second is the family i'm massive okay, but this is a power struggle a ukrainians are fighting for survival, the third thing, well, who else could win an oscar for playing in the opposition, if not navalny, who has already changed his positions three times. then russia is the federation, he is a nationalist, so now he already says oh no, russia is already a republic, let's think about it, crimea is ukraine this is while he is in prison. will he talk like that when he gets out? well, you know the most important thing. i remember these photos on the internet when they say that this is a ukrainian family from mariupol that suffers from putin's crimes. children without legs , a mother without an arm, and really people who remained without a building and this is a russian family that suffers from putin and they drink champagne on the red carpet, do you understand this? and for example, we are fighting against russian troops , they have a nobel prize, we have a nobel prize, only they have a second nobel

award, we are forbidden to perform at the oscars, they are given an oscar, and this raises the question of the world for ukrainians, and you look objectively at who is fighting with whom, who attacked whom and what kind of war is this, because this story is about the so-called good russians who walk well, you understand what they make us russophobia, although there is no smell of russophobia here, the struggle for survival is decommunization and we are freed, they say, well, look, they are inadequate, they hate us , they do not want to kill us. did you demolish the pushkin monument in zhytomyr, or for example, is it in the dnipro? well, how is it, so let's discuss it, so let's join the russians, white stars, to the olympic games , why do these chattering people come to kyiv, and we are beggars, so brother, take a machine gun and go chat bahmut if you brother, what if you are imperial naretsiv , in which they allowed you to sell your business for half a billion and then released you from russia, or did you take the money with you, so you can’t take any, it’s just

a putin gasket that works for the so-called oppositionists, which also deserves an oscar. well , maybe he won his oscar in television will receive this on instagram, but on the other hand, we are also starting to translate the story with the oscar into a purely political context. we do not even discuss the artistic artistic value of the presented tapes, we are there. films, we are definitely not russians, but in our country, in principle, such depotonia should be very simple, yes, because our emotional experience is very difficult to compare with the emotional experience of the same uh film academics, because even those who voted for this film even well our ukrainian producer rodnyanskyi, who also voted for this film navalny , but for some reason he made such a choice, and it seems to me that the matter here is really about

politics and not about artistic value, already in the history of this oscar, how many minutes are left i would like to pay attention to you to ask again from the point of view of analyzing what the world has already gone through in a situation where global evil has already been identified in the center of the world, did we have any precedents when this evil defeated the global world when we recognize the aggression of the whole world when we bring sentences to the head of this country when the whole world the civilized world helps us in the war, have there been precedents in history when such evil conquered the whole world no, there were no such precedents actually there are few precedents in fact, the biggest thing is the second world war, where the countries of the anti-hitler coalition already determined during the war that they would first wage

a war until the complete victory, until the absolutely unconditional surrender of the enemy, and secondly , they would punish the nazi criminals. this was decided even in the midst of hostilities when the final wars, as they say. well, it was not visible yet , and everything was clear there. they really succeeded in punishing them. but again, even then, unfortunately , the punishment was only partial, because many criminals escaped it by hiding in other countries or even in germany itself, there or in other countries, having gradually received short terms there and then amnesty, that is, again , the punishment was not one hundred percent not for everyone, and in the case of yugoslavia, in the case of yugoslavia, this is also quite an indicative factor, since there were many different crimes there carried out, but there, despite the fact that the majority of those convicted by this tribunal from the former slogan are serbs by origin, there was

still no recognition of any one such evil , one force of evil, there was such an approach that, in principle, all parties committed crimes it's just that somewhere more responsible somewhere less and it was applied accordingly, and this approach is quite, well, quite objective, although russia , as you know, constantly makes claims to this tribunal about yugoslavia, and russia, by the way, gave political shelter to some serbian general who was fleeing from persecution by this justice, even providing they have russian citizenship, there have been such cases, that's why there are no chances in russia directly, there are no chances in russia. it 's good news. i was listening to you. executed, i saw the similarly lost meamar gaddafi, people who seemed to be all-powerful dictators in their regions, who were simply not vulnerable to any punishment, but the punishment

nevertheless came, and i had time to see with my own eyes in this lifetime what they look like already after this, after these sufferings, and i really hope that i will also see putin , mr. mykolay, and you have a reply at the end of the program today, just wish our viewers a good evening, remember to make it happen, so that there are two, so that the third happens it is necessary to inform the armed forces to help our military, to help our volunteers, and to cultivate this power in our state, because we will not only defeat putin, we will create a very cool, super-strong leadership state in the world, and this is just the chance to not just win and get a destructive one, and this a chance to win and move on and move on and this is a chance we must take advantage of it and really make such a state that we will all be proud of thank you thank you mykola davydyuk

alla for the maraev night watch we hope that you liked the broadcast, you will spend the rest of the night in peace. see you on the air. my beloved, sweet enemies. i must show you my sympathy. if there were less of you around, a person could hit a blade. i like your excitement. i divide you into types and ranks. my dumbbells, horizontal bars, and barbells, sports uniform, a good feeling, it’s a tedious task, living without battles , a person from a quiet life mourns his heart

and loses his waist. so i praise you, take care of the snow, i advise you, let me bend into an arc, then this arc will surely be volt amen , i dreamed of a wonderful bazaar under the sky in a clean field for different people, for the generous and the miser, different fortunes were sold, there were only tsarifs