[000:00:00;00] next and that tobacconist well, just, well, people, why really take a minister, a person who then needs to be fired, a person who was called the reincarnation of the same tobacconist simply in a different position, and why did they wait so long, why exactly now, suddenly , this person’s last name was not even someone who such a scandal so that somewhere he would get bored there, he had been sitting quietly, quietly lately, and here suddenly, well, besides the fact that the ukrainian story was stuck in his throat and he did not want it to be included in this what is his name there instead of the usual one to us, the zno is now due to the fact that we have a full-scale tournament, it looks a little different, in a word, we will also ask our people's elected officials about this, who is expected of us on the air. well, of course, we will ask about the situation of the shevchenkovska prize. and

it was supposed to be awarded on the birthday of taras shevchenko, and it has been awarded for 51 years in a row , it has not yet been included and the decree has not yet been signed. thing and the only person who is responsible for this now is president volodymyr zelenskyi, you have already said more than once that we have like two zelenskyi, we have a good zelenskyi on foreign policy and we have some kind of yanukovych soft version when it comes to such things where does such a slyness manifest itself well, it does not befit a person who claims such a scale of volodymyr and the people's deputy of ukraine and his colleague also the people's deputy of ukraine oleg dunda is already on our air, gentlemen, we greet you good morning actually, let's start with this story, if

you don't mind. well, it's just not finished until now. it seems to me that it's a huge scandal when the entire committee of the shevchenkivska prize is resigning, that is, they are going on this demarche. one of the members of this committee is already a former shevchenkivska . awards, ostap slyvinsky explained three things about the fact that the decree has not yet been signed. maybe it is still signed, maybe he missed something, he wrote that this is not respect for society, it is disrespect for the laureates themselves, and he says that for each she i decided to quote the correct laureate in quotation marks, they say you are good, but look who contributed to the victory and he says here what about iryna cilyk, who starred for the world in a film about russian aggression against ukraine, she did not contribute to the victory , wait for the gate, a poet, a volunteer, the voice of this war and victory and the third - this is disrespect to the committee itself, which will once again quote

the slovenian, he said, as if he said, where did you gather, who did you recruit here, well, back , we will tell you what is correct, what is relevant. well, these are the things, i will remind you that if the president for some reason does not sign laws or decrees, then according to the constitution, the chairman of the verkhovna rada does it for him, who, by the way, has not been able to make it a law for six months, for example, on the banning of a russian book in ukraine, in 300 or so votes , this draft law was adopted in the second reading and it is still not signed. and stefanchuk, i don’t know what he does. the question is what exactly is going on with the shevchenkivsky award. this is clearly disrespect for the procedures of the president and his office, because the shevchenkov

committee followed all the procedures and if would someone like to add some other nomination? well, this should have been done six months before, according to the procedures, before the moment of the determination of the laurel , then there was already a full-scale war, and it was possible to understand that such a nomination could theoretically be in demand now, in fact, this the nomination covers the reluctance of the president's office and zelensky himself to sign the decree because it contains names that are not among the supporters of the current president. a trivial thing and clearly does not correlate with the title of the leader of the free world that we supporters award him, so in this case

, if the president is responsible, he will sign the decree, if the president is childish, he will not sign the decree and will do everything to the last to ensure that those surnames who he does not like before this decree did not get the shevchenko prize de facto e de jure he received it because de facto all these people are already laureates according to the decision of the shevchenko committee in fact, everything that is happening today we we are witnessing the complete centralization of power, that is, if we go to the european union, then in fact the power should not be concentrated in one hand, but have very strong horizontal ones. please, the vertical one is typical for despotic and autocratic regimes, so if today the chairman of the verkhovna rada does not sign instead of the president, when do you see this terms well, there is a truth, er, such a moment that

the president is not obliged to sign. and he can sign- sign within 15 days, er, or send to the verkhovna rada to blur the wording in the constitution, but if er, the head the verkhovna rada is completely dependent on the office of the president, so in fact it turns the legislative body into one of the subdivisions of the office of the president, and this is absolutely not consistent with the european aspirations of ukraine, which it declared, will there be time for the president to finally sign off on this scandalous situation? i think that the president will sign it, or the shevchenko prize , it has already been determined and never and it is already too late , the last moments are left to sign this class, but by the way, i note that stefanchuk has nothing

to do with this, because no signs indicates that he only signed legislative documents that were voted on in the verkhovna rada, so fortunately or unfortunately , he does not influence it. and regarding mr. stepanchuk , well, look, there is one. when they eat one bill , i can give more air, for example , 56-55 for which there was also a petition regarding the imposition of the brother and other things, if you listen to mr. volodymyr reva, then stepanchuk now needs to sign this bill, which supporter is he not ? oleksandrovych will not sign it. i think that they are preparing a thorough position, or in the near future there will be this enterprise . moreover, he noted that it is a very wrong opinion in ukraine today to think that there are supporters of president zelenskyi or there are not his supporters after february 24, such a thing should not happen at all society and political parties and political

forces should be divided into two parts. this is the pro-russian part . political as domestic politics and those who are pro-ukrainian who help the president and stefanchatkova and the cabinet and the verkhovna rada , and fighting against the influx can not always be successful, i agree, but still there is a unified position and there is no need to divide society into supporters of the president or his supporters , let's we will deal with this after the victory, because she has a point of view on february 24. everything has changed, we are already in that state , when the servant of the people does not exist, conditionally there, well , what was in the twentieth year does not exist, does not exist voice, there are two big factions, pro-ukrainian and the so-called koobrazyna and pro-russian, so let's not talk about who supported us in our domestic politics, especially during the war, let's not

spread it, especially if we don't play it. well, i'm just the constitution of ukraine gives the president 15 days to sign again the law banning russian books in ukraine, i don't know how anti-ukrainian it is , but even if the president thinks so, he has 15 days to at least put a veto on it by spoiling the whole thing and so on, and i honestly don't like it when it comes down to one tip of the scales that you either support the president or you are against ukraine. well , i don't like it. andrii i didn't say that you or i are just against to say who is a supporter of this or that party, or is it possible to criticize the government even during a war regarding some actions of course it is possible, but it is possible to say it in a personal way about who i follow because he does not work or for some reason he works well, after all, it is inappropriate

such a position should not be, therefore, sorry, this is my opinion, it is possible, volodymyrets well, if you, er, the office of the president did not divide society into its supporters and opponents, but involved people who are critical of the authorities, er, including the struggle on all fronts it was possible to speak against russian occupation and russian aggression, but today we can see that talks about unity are only for external use or for a telethon . the real ones are completely different, and today we have to be honest about the fact that today there are political forces eh or what are they that simply lie under the office of the president or if they are even patriotic they undergo eh constant eh repressions one in particular in european solidarity let's remember

the case eh now, when together with luga narod and the former pro-russian police force, they jointly decided in odesa to liquidate the premises for the honcharenko center where volunteers work and even sent aunts there, so there are a lot of examples that are quite clear absolutely clearly refute the fact that the office of the president sees unity and you are not alone, or against us is some kind of new komsomol if we go to the european union and we are not fighting to become a new north korea or belarus but to be a european democratic state then there shouldn't be such things and in fact the autocratic attitudes that are now beginning to manifest themselves in the behavior of the president and the office of the president

shouldn't exist, but that's why we're talking about it. these are the things we share now in general on all of our activities, whether it helps or something helps and defeats the enemy or , on the contrary, hinders if er things like in kherson, er, were not given to us er, our volunteers and our party members to make a bakery er with which we distributed bread for the people of kherson after the occupation, that is support, including the armed forces of ukraine , whose units were stationed in kherson , then it is clear that such things are the ones who split society and they are the ones who act to undermine faith in victory because uh, we are acting only to make ukraine ukraine, the situation with the shevchenko

prize is getting stronger, it raises questions. in the cultural environment, we are very active , and we see a lot of discontent. why do this, does it unite or divide? no, it divides er, in this case, i am talking about what are the words and what are the facts, and i really want the facts of separation to be as few as possible, we are talking about exactly this, and if there are fewer of them , then i will only be happy about it, and look, i would like a little react two theses first i very often in the last year that on february 24, 22nd of the year, i was surprised to learn from many of my colleagues that they will not leave us and we are not given the opportunity and so on. it's too much a person who needs to be involved in something. well, he should do it himself, it's his duty to

society. how can this be banned ? it's necessary to lead somewhere by the hand or something else. he should do it, raise it. i apologize for my opinion and do what for the society around myself, especially since resources are usually enough for this, the state is not needed, here i am, for example, with my activities, and there regarding the forum and referendums, i do not ask for any help from anyone, because this is my duty to the state, to my people, and they do not cry about what i there is no one helping you, the rest is related to the culture. well, to be honest, during the war, it is very strange to hear that someone did not give something to someone, that someone wants some kind of bonus there for uh, we are wasting time. although i understand the big problem that we currently have on culture is cultural and art is precisely the front through which we can convince our western partners, even non-western

partners, society in france, in new york, in south america, promoting it and explaining what is actually happening in ukraine. thus , they pervert to the benefit of the country, and instead, instead of such a great diplomatic work that the state needs, we begin to decide and who was given a prize and who was not given a prize, i have a question there and what does this legendary state do nothing we we waste time and resources, it is not known why, instead of taking our creative art, go to berlin , go to venice, that is, mr. oleg’s land, if shevchenkivska was in ukraine and believe me, tentatively, in a new yorker to sneeze, whether the government of the shevchenkivska prize or the government of some other came to him country to him. it is important that it be a cultural art that will offer it in its own way

. artists this prize and that's all, and there's no need to write a separate line. and then drag it out with the signing, and as for the departure, far away and not from the working people, and so on , what is known about the departure? well, ivan lenyo, the cossack of systems, the leader of the band, turned to the ministry of culture about what they said listen, during the full-scale invasion, i and other performers like me went abroad more than once , because now the documents that you require after one artist who somehow got permission to leave with his allegedly stand-up performances of dubious quality, because there are more jokes than humor, and now ivan lenyok says that it is impossible to fulfill these demands, moreover, if they did not escape during the year of the full-scale invasion, then they probably will not escape, then

why do such a thing, how to present ukrainian culture, moreover, in what way to a conventional new yorker , i don’t know serhii zhadan, who travels abroad very often during this year of a full-scale invasion and then brings to the front a lot of things that are needed for our defenders. and how is he will leave and how will he demonstrate ukrainian culture if he is not released again. if it is done like this, where is this division ? where can we find a balance between who should present ukrainian culture ? which of them will we speak? tell me, because i appealed

to you so and so in the second year. moreover, i personally have many examples of how we took people there who talked and talked about what was happening in chernihiv oblast, kyiv oblast and they exported art objects, they exported documentary badges, for example, to chernihiv, as if chernihiv was in this, too. well, there was a problem and there was help. from the ministry and from the lady , they dragged it separately and from the military administrations in the regions, respectively. i understand that now the position of the ministry has changed a little , taking into account the information the fact that some representatives of the artistic front turned out to be not as passionate about ukrainian as they said about it, and that's why maybe they tightened the screws a little and didn't give the opportunity for a long time, that's why i think that this issue should be raised in the near future. and volodymyr and i should also raise this issue and all the other deputies and be or advocates and promote the possibility

of their departure . in the name of the saltonshchyna, he left, er, went alone, some er, let's call him a bad person , ran abroad, er, maybe there are more of them somewhere . well, 3% of the total number of artists. but the remaining 97%, who conduct active cultural diplomacy abroad, are now suffering here as well the issue of moral responsibility should have been raised, but no, we decided then to close it from the side absolutely for everyone, such a curtain for once is an iron curtain. now, as for culture , it’s simple. well, once one ee was found

, so we will all be under one, that’s why won the clarification of ukraine just like the story of going abroad , by the way. abroad, if there is one tyshchenko or tymoshenko on the beaches somewhere in warm regions, there are deputies who travel and organize humanitarian aid, especially if it concerns local authorities, e.e., deputies of local councils, who are just now starting to talk about handing in their parliamentary mandates, because you are interfering with their volunteer activities, my cash register has a history with it, for example, with the teofipolske srzete fund, e.e., from poland, e.e., they organized the delivery, e.e. there they had to organize such a number of generators for families in the printed de-occupied e-e territories of ukraine close to the front , especially for those with many children, and as a result

it was delayed due to guaranteeing that these generators named after the people's deputy go to of the final consumer, which was delayed at least a month ago, you yourself understand that there are specific examples of this kind of soldafonism and if we do not look and if we, if the government does not start acting flexibly, then purely the interests of ukraine will suffer from this. even if they will be punished, it is clearly not those who are already running away or who use their official position for private problems for less than five minutes just stay, you know , i actually also have a question, well, we now have a problem with the ministry of foreign affairs, which cannot recruit all the necessary ambassadors there are no ambassadors, now, for example, we have a problem in china, on the other hand, we have such appointments as there in bulgaria , where there are few people, they were elected by some kind of rental method , it seems to be true, what does it look like, because you are not dictating , which one i have on the air is confused, for example latvia, lithuania, she is in switzerland and switzerland is now disposing of missile launchers there

, and i don't know what she did to make it somehow different. they were in some wrong governments, and this is also a problem . it is not possible. you say that we have a lot of cool diplomats in the desert, who are now on them, uh, from the point of view of peacetime. i would agree with you, but i recently had a discussion , for example, mr. mandriv melnik. by the way, i think that all diplomats have already finished before him or were in governments yanukovych kuchma or were in the governments, relatively speaking, in the south, we don’t have ours, you take either there or there , let’s not take them, take them, look now, the military

is writing the requirements for the diplomats’ plan, which are some part of the professional formats there may not correspond to what i have on mind you, andriy melnyk can agree with me and we can talk about it with him, that now a large part of the work of a diplomat and an ambassador is not only going to ordinary offices and not so much going to the government office, it is work primarily with local local mass media, that is, even if we take into he gave examples of germany, not berlin, for example, in frankfurt, in a prison in bonn, and about working with public activists in order to change the opinion of society directly from below, to lean on the government cabinet, and in this way, for example, he gave an example, he broke the position of the government germany and the same thing should be done by most other countries , first of all, south america. and i am far from sure that professional professional diplomats who are too fastidious in their e-e their

coordinate system for 23 years are capable of this to implement the function, it is necessary to completely revise our diplomatic work in the near future with a diploma in sexology and some other opinions , but the opinion is clear, elena, we don’t have time for a discussion, listen to this draft law, which serhiy rakhmanin wrote about in particular, about how he formulated the publications there, is this law against the industrious ah law how is it right there 42:10 it seems i can make a mistake with the serial number what do you think about it literally we have a minute and a half for the answer which subordinates in particular and for half a minute and literally, what is your reaction, what exactly was the proposal of the ministry of defense at the end of last year, namely the one that was not liked

by many of the armed forces of ukraine, and in this case it is now about controversial norms that limit the rights and freedoms of military personnel and also, er, they make extra er, extra permutations, er, it’s not time for such a position, okay, they are real , so that they don’t get to the hall in the second reading, because it’s clear that during the hearing , volodymyr, they heard the hearing, oleg, very briefly this law project will react the same way, will it be voted on that will affect the reduction of the rights of e-e military personnel and the humiliation of the person's earnings , the people's elected officials of ukraine. thank you to all our viewers

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