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[000:00:00;00] these protests were so serious in paris, they burned cars, er, threw stones at shop windows, tens of thousands of people gathered, well, as we can see, er, they want to get the french government to cancel the pension reform, not to accept , not to adopt the pension reform, the second topic is jinping's visit to russia is very important for us, the topic is what is happening in the middle east, the guests professionally answered my questions in conclusion, i just want to thank everyone who watched us today both on the air and on youtube, now about youtube we put you the question of what was agreed upon by the network with intini and putin three options for the answer about the supply of chinese weapons 65% think about the end of the russian war 26% think well and your option is nine percent well, what is left to wait i think it is not much since all the calls came only for three
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we'll see in a few days, i'm forced to say goodbye to you , we'll meet next week at the usual time , but now you're not switching because my colleague serhiy rudenko is taking over the baton and with the verdek program serhiy, i congratulate you, yura congratulations literally in a few seconds glory to ukraine is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today march 20, 390th day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers, the leader of china has arrived on a three-day visit to moscow and is expected to hold talks with vladimir putin today's final times writes that after these talks, the leader of china will call president zelensky to discuss the situation on
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the russian-ukrainian front and his proposals on how to make peace or make peace in the current situation , meanwhile, the american institute for the study of war says that russia's offensive in donbas may be approaching its climax, and ukraine has the opportunity to seize the initiative to start a concrete step, while the russian occupiers on the territory of the ukrainian state continue to lose vitality and equipment as of the morning of march 20, russia has already lost 165,610 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 700 orks with the beginning of the great war, russians have already lost in ukraine 3,527 tanks 6,869 armored combat vehicles 2,500 777 artillery systems 507 rocket launchers 270 anti-ballistic missiles 305 airplanes 290 helicopters 5,416 units
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of motor vehicles 18 boats boats 907 cruise missiles 2,160 drones 265 units of special equipment for moscow putin's ukraine before the counteroffensive , these are the topics of today's program for an hour, we will talk about it, i want to introduce today's guest , oleksandr khara, diplomat-expert of the center of defense strategies mr. oleksandr good day good health to you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast good day mr. serhiy sorry that sometimes i wear glasses because now this is an important topic i understand that but i will try to match your intellectual level thank you mr. oleksandr so all the calls arrived in moscow his plane has already boarded in moscow. literally in a few hours, he is meeting with the leader of russia , vladimir putin, and in principle, we
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are all waiting for certain results from these negotiations, but let's start with something an interesting situation because on friday the international criminal court issued a warrant for putin's arrest and it is valid in 122 countries of the world china in russia he did not act in the united states of america and if i am not mistaken in ukraine neither is this one there is no warrant from the international criminal court yet, and the leader of china will be the first leader of a major country to shake hands with a person who is accused of war crimes and crimes against ukrainian children whom he took to the territory of the russian federation. how comfortable is this visit? now it is for sisinping and not from the point of view of weakening russia from the point of view of being forced to greet
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and shake hands with a person who is accused of war crimes. well , you know, i think that it is unlikely that you will feel any discomfort from inpen, uh, for low reasons, and the first surely for us, as a country that suffered from bolshevism, communism and famine, there are more than one genocides in our history with russia or with a mask, more precisely, if we look at the history of china, modern history , then the current leaders of this country have none have never apologized for all these crimes they committed against their own people and the cultural revolution and sterilization within the framework of the program of one child e and e more than a million victims, most likely we do not know exactly and we will probably never know how many died as a result of what in the same way china fought with covid, actually , some hundreds of thousands of ukrainian children
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were taken somewhere there. well, what is this? we have a whole camp for the repatriation of refugees, we suppress freedom in hankoza. but then we will accuse them of double standards , which actually the chinese foreign ministry did today. they said that this is politicization, a double standard. but on the other hand, there is something that, let's say , definitely happened. this is an important event, and it seems to me that there is also a very important moment. in fact this is the zukhwariv tsarska, which they ignore even those who seemed to rule in the international community, i mean like the murders of the ukrainian serviceman oleksandr oleksievsky and they defiantly showed it, and that is, they they don't shy away from it, but it's normal for them. actually, because the bad thing here is that they saved
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ukrainian children after they completely bombed ukrainian mariupol. things they can afford because it's a nuclear state er-er they are permanent members of the un security council and you er-er let's say so their interests in relation to the outside world coincide less america less based on the rules of the world order er more power more right to do whatever they want with the territories they consider theirs. well, and most importantly, small neighboring states that have no right to sovereignty. this war is subjective, it is america's war against russia, and in fact america provoked this conflict, and this is the following vision, of course . it is a little transformed in diplomatic
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terms. called these 12 points and china's position on the political settlement of the ukrainian crisis, they avoid even calling the armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine as a war as an aggression, so it is clear that there will not be any very uncomfortable moments, they were about strengthening this partnership without borders and will outline certain there, economic , military-political and other measures will indicate that the multi-polar peace they said is coming. actually, it is putin's wise policy and synteny that they are speeding up, which means that this is fair
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it seems that peace and the actual elimination of the united states and its allies are seen from the center of decision-making, or at least that they play such an important role in this system. the rules of the game were established after the second world war, and beijing has already made public its vision of what is happening on the territory of ukraine and its attitude towards russia , in fact, it was not a peace plan, it was a peace plan - this was a vision, what did they call this vision of china regarding the situation in the russian-ukrainian crisis , what do they call these points that were made public? they do not give an idea of ​​how to actually get out of this situation. that putin has cornered his state and cornered the situation on the russian-ukrainian front, and today fti is writing about the fact that he will sit down after the meeting with putin , call zelenskiy, he will say something , what can be expected from this
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three-day visit of the chinese leader, which began today, what will happen what will be the formula reached in the negotiations between sydinpinia and vladimir putin, and which will then be articulated by zelensky, is it usually the case that such formulas are worked out in advance and the leaders come out with certain statements after some negotiations? call zelensky, well, you know , it seems to me that these 12 points were made public literally there on the anniversary of the large-scale invasion of ukraine, they completely satisfy the russian federation , since in fact there is almost nothing about ukraine it's about why i'm talking about this, if we look at the first point about territorial integrity, it seems to be the same plan for resolving the conflict or political crisis between ukraine and
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russia, but there it is about respect for the principle of territorial integrity of all states and china , primarily they mean taiwan and not ukrainian crimea or ukrainian donbas there or some other illegal annexed territory and other points there are only two points that are of direct interest to ukraine, which ukraine itself is called, the first is not the use of nuclear weapons, this is extremely the important thing is that all the pini and hindus have signed up to this and are talking about it. this is an important thing. the second point is that there is actually an exchange of prisoners of war and other things. for example, how not to return to the mentality of the cold war , that ukraine is turning the world around, or russia, or the west, yes, the mentality of the cold war, no.
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absolutely. this means that china should continue to trade with europe in isomers , that they should not be subject to any sanctions, that they should not introduce expert control and other things. again, it is not about ukraine, that is, in fact, out of these 12 points, ukraine is mentioned in 2-2.5 points. the rest is all about the united states and china's relations . it is actually fine with the united states, because they also see this conflict as a that ukraine is not a subject and someone there pushed us to fight with russia , we almost attacked, but the russians got ahead of us, well , that is, all this nonsense in the heads of the chinese, it is completely organic, it comes to life, so wait . they will agree to something else or something acceptable for ukraine, i think uh the secretary of the national security and defense council very clearly and correctly said that the chinese plan should begin with the withdrawal of russian troops from the occupied territories and then we can talk about something , so i don't expect anything and let's just say this visit does not change anything because
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nine years have passed before this visit the first e resolution of the un general assembly in 2014 against the territorial integrity of ukraine china abstained e 20 the second year the resolution on the armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine china abstained the third is the february resolution of this year on the principles of the canteen long-term peace is based on the un charter, china abstained, china and russia blocked even the repetition of the same phrase with m , which means in balinese declaration of the group of 20 , they did not say that the situation had changed and there is no need to do this, that is, in fact, china has already shown what it is bare feet, there are statistics for this. i am not talking about gas and oil, which the chinese buy more, they have doubled the number of chips that they supply without today to the russian federation, as well as through how many other countries, in particular turkey, they
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they deliver equipment there, they train the same defenses, these elements, i understand that these are fairy tales and armored vehicles, they deliver drones there and deliver at least a thousand automatic rifles, most likely there are other supplies that we we don't see it, because they definitely know how to hide it, that's why all these peace-making appeals are demagogy , traditional and communist. anyone who lived in soviet times or was interested in history will simply recognize this whole demography of democratic rhetoric, nothing new from china there cannot be a single main thing which i will name just three numbers 360 billion 190 billion 19 billion 19 00 e-e 2020 our trade with china 202 2 trade with the russian federation and 360 billion all connecting states exclusively the united states by the weight of its economy and
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trade relations with china, as well as their allies in europe, the european market is also important for the chinese, these are levers of influence so that china does not go into the forest and does not start helping with missiles or shells or some other things. definitely not a peace plan, not even any there are calls from kyiv to come to their senses or sisinfins to influence their younger partner, well, by the way, on the airs of russian television , in particular, they say that they do not want any peace plan from china. and what the propagandists say on the air of ragka tv, let's see what concerns the mayor, the chinese have a plan we will consider a decent normal one, but we don’t really need peace right now. more precisely, we don’t need it, but we can’t go to it, we simply can’t. because
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we have our constitution, it is written in in that region, we need to free kherson, zaporizhzhia, chinese colleagues. well, they will not be able to force us, with all the love to our chinese colleagues, oleksandr, but for the chinese, their position now regarding the russian-ukrainian war is clear that they are trying to be outside of it, because outside of this war and they are trying to give answers to all questions and say that these two sides should sit down at the negotiating table, well, that is, they do not perceive it as aggression by the russian federation against ukraine. although i think that in beijing for sure realize that what is happening is weakening both the russian federation and the west because the west is helping the ukrainian side
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china wants this to continue so that the parties on which china now depends i mean russia and the united states america you have already mentioned the turnover of goods last year from russia and e-e are connected by the states of america in order to e-e partners chinese partners so that they have control over these partners what does what what does beijing aspire to? well, you know if in three days e-e russian we would have this rag in kyiv and ukraine lost its independence, china was very satisfied because it confirmed the thesis that, well, at least the russians have been repeating for 30 years since 1991 that america is declining and that it is no longer a power and soon there will be a multicentric world, so it is profitable for the chinese, they understood then a little
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adjusted their plans in relation to taiwan, but this did not happen, then they see now that russia has actually exhausted its resources in order to wage a war of the same intensity as it was there a few months ago, in fact, it appeared the information that the chinese are considering the possibility of such significant assistance to the russians with weapons so that the russians can do something means that there are certainly certain aspects of this war for china, but there are certain negatives and positives. this is definitely a weakening of russia, which will absolutely agree to any formats of unequal cooperation and resources. in fact, russia, which is used as a battering ram against the western world, but there are also negative things . last week there was a meeting between the british, the americans and the av, and they agreed on the
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submarine nuclear submarines earlier than it was the previous one and in fact received the most modern, more modern than planned boats, for which it is clear that australia needs to be included already with its presence in the idetech region as a deterrent against the growing movement, this is a consequence er, in fact, the russian invasion. and such a position of china is further definitely that this is the introduction of export controls, because we see that taiwan is also trying to move part of its - its production to the united states. there they are building in horizon means large, large production of chips, and er, it means samsung literally in the past or a week ago said that somewhere around 300 billion .
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yes, the iphones that we use can, but they definitely do not produce the most modern chips that are needed for these iphones, so actually this is a negative thing, because for china it would be a cease-fire so that in fact the status is now where are the occupiers russians so that they stay and begin to strain at excuse me for the diplomatic word, what process or some other process where russia will sabotage and understand , preparing for the final solution to the ukrainian issue, the destruction of us actually seems to me to be the most important thing and that is exactly why a year later, in fact, china gave birth to 12 points and began to iron out their own, and now they say that this peace plan or that approach will be one of the key topics that sisinpin and
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vladimir putin will talk about, that is, it seems to me that they understand that russia cannot win, and it seems to me that it is possible to simply delay the resolution of the conflict, and of course they are looking at what is happening in the united states, we are now looking at what president trump may find himself in. at least he can be detained, they are actively talking about problems with law enforcement agencies , we see these useful idiots in europe, they are in favor of stopping the supply of weapons to ukraine, and about the mages of these e. there trumpian united states that call to stop aid , of course, which is turkey, on may 14 they will elections and it is clear that quite a lot depends on the position of this state and if there is a change of power well, if there is a change of power it is possible that we will even be better off because then there will be more about the western course for this and that is why they understand that it is better to stop and let russia relax and prepare for the final solution to the ukrainian issue, let's return to the arrest warrant, oleksandr. volodymyr
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zelenskyi says that this warrant is a turning point according to which russia will bear full responsibility to ukraine after the war and the world will hear volodymyr zelenskyi that i finally brought a really important international legal result for ukraine , for justice there is a warrant from the international criminal court for the head of russia , this is a turning point, a moment after which it becomes beyond doubt that the end of this aggression for russia will be the full range of its responsibility , responsibility for every strike on ukraine, for every ruined life, for every deported ukrainian child, of course, for every manifestation of destabilization of the world, which was a consequence
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of russian aggression, is it true, alexander, that until then, until this warrant is implemented, well, that is, until putin appears before the international criminal court , the russian federation will not be able to lift the sanctions , the international sanctions that have been introduced over the last year. well, i hope so , because in fact, all those the sanctions that were imposed on the russian federation from the 14th year there were different motivations, the first block was for non-recognition of the illegal annexation of crimea, and then, in fact, the selection policy of merkel obama was to force putin to comply with the minsk agreements. then, after the downing of the malaysian boeing, such sanctions already began, although it is clear that they were always late, and the most important thing is that there are problems with their implementation, in principle, these sanctions are a consensus education in relation to the russian federation, they are not based on a decision of the un security council and, accordingly , at any moment or there the new administration of the united states can
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cancel certain sanctions against russia if, for example, it will be the same trump or some other similar person or in the european union because the european union continues sanctions with a certain especially the last few times with a certain creak and we see the same mr. companies are located there. he saved patriarch gundyaev more than once, he saved every atom. and let's say this, other surnames, other companies. that's why it's clear that putin's subdivision is a gray thing. he can't somehow wash off this stain. here but this cannot be a safeguard against sanctions being lifted, there will be moral pressure . but it is clear that other
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decisions will be made, and a very important point is that 123 countries are those who respect this order, and it is very important that most of these countries are in the so-called global in the afternoon in august, there will be a meeting of the uh-e newdels in india and this is a challenge for the government itself, whether it will respect this order or whether it will invite the uh-e, in fact, an international criminal to his place , then the situation will be interesting already in september because there will be brics in south africa and again south africa has to decide whether it is going to invite such a person . there are european states, and in fact, we will see that, in fact, putin has
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a time when he will be visiting , well, in china , i understand. therefore, this decision is very important. i hope that there will be other decisions about the crimes they committed, and it seems to me that this moral pressure, which did not appear, should be used in the civil society of the ukrainian diplomatic power in order to actually destroy the myths in the false global south, because they look at this conflict almost through the eyes of the kremlin. by the way, the minister of justice of germany , marko buschmann, said in an interview with the bilt-and-zon newspaper that he would comply with the request of the international criminal court for arrest putin if he ends up in the federal republic of germany and what piskov says what putin's press secretary says he talks about
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what uh this is a decision this warrant has nothing to do with putin because he is illegal and the dream of a russian tribunal against ukraine we will hear piskov we know that the video is a work . it absolutely records all crimes , that is, the regime leads a very feminine, curculious , copied work, materials that are definitely the basis of such a demand, judging by the sound that was in the phone of rurka piskov, it is obvious that he is already somewhere he actually sits in the bunker and is also afraid to leave, uh, about putin , about his bravado, which he always demonstrated and said , and for me, it’s not a problem to go somewhere, you already mentioned china, well, obviously he will be in belarus, a series of trips somewhere to these
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countries that eh is the axis of conventional evil or the axis of evil a new axis eh it is clear that he will not be able to go to the civilized countries of the civilized world occupied mariupol, well, that's all that vladimir putin is actually capable of. do you think he's actually afraid of this arrest warrant and will he continue to demonstrate this truth, which he supports, including dmitry medvedev, his associate, who said that in in principle, some kind of hypersonic missile can get to the international court of justice very quickly
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, it will fly there so let's put an end to this situation and judges, that is, they have already crossed this red line a long time ago and the world is just looking at how these two gopniks putin and medvedev well, they just ignore it any rules, any institutions, any reservations. well, you know, first of all , i am very interested in watching certain , first of all, american diplomats , experts who were inspired by medvedev's liberalism, that he is good for russia, and so on. and now we see that it is such a twisted, very limited, uneducated creation , which means that it threatens education with armageddons and recently wrote an article in the unknown, and on the one hand, it waved its nuclear baton, and on the other hand, it said that russia is not
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let's admit the second moment, well, let's remember who these two international criminals are by education. they graduated from the leningrad state university and the faculty of law, and you can imagine what the level of legal and scientific training was , that they do not understand what is happening and the meaning of this warrant and in general what is this , what are the consequences for them and the russian federation? who could protect them, and there is no legal protection of any kind, it is silent that they do not resort to threats to use nuclear weapons and, in fact, this is the only thing they have left, since the world will not hear them, well, at least i am talking about normal, even so, the chinese and hindus say that it is impossible to use nuclear weapons then they will certainly pretend to be such a match and this is the most important thing for the russians, because russia is built on the cult of individuals, that is ivan

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