[000:00:00;00] of natural capacities of defense plants well, in the meantime, in kyiv they are changing the time of the alcohol product in stores, this will happen literally in a week, and alcoholic beverages in stores and chains will be allowed to be sold from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. another good news that we may not have known about today the day of the vernal equinox is like that. well, the length of the day and the length of the night are approximately the same. and then from tomorrow it will already be spring, so to speak. anti-borkovsky further broadcast is already being picked up by our colleagues for your attention program verdict with serhiy rudenko glory to ukraine is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today

march 20 390 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers the leader of china sit-pin has arrived with a three-day visit to moscow, he is expected to hold talks with vladimir putin, today's financial times reports that after these talks, the chinese leader will call president zelensky for in order to discuss the situation on the russian -ukrainian front and his proposals on how to make peace or arrange peace in the current situation, meanwhile , the american institute for the study of war says that russia's offensive in donbas may be approaching its climax, and ukraine has the opportunity to seize the initiative to start a concrete step and the russian occupiers on the territory of the ukrainian state continue to lose manpower and equipment. as of the morning of march 20, russia has already lost

165,610 people in ukraine in the last day alone. the forces of ukraine destroyed 700 orks since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 3527 tanks 6869 armored combat vehicles 2,500-77 artillery systems 507 rocket salvo systems 270 anti-personnel weapons 305 aircraft 290 helicopters 5416 units of automotive equipment 18 boats boats 907 cruise missiles 2 160 drones 265 units of special equipment. so, everyone is ding-ping in moscow. an arrest warrant for putin. ukraine before the counteroffensive . this is the topic of our program today . we will talk about it for an hour. i want to introduce today's guest, this is oleksandr khara, diplomat, expert

of the center of defense strategies, oleksandr. good day. good health to you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast. good day, mr. serhiy. i'm sorry that sometimes i wear glasses because now i understand that this is an important topic, but i will try to match your intellectual level. thank you mr. oleksandr so, all the calls arrived in moscow, his plane has already boarded in moscow. literally in a few hours, he is meeting with the leader of russia , vladimir putin, and in principle, we are all waiting for some definite results from these negotiations results, but let's start with a rather interesting situation, because on friday, the international criminal court issued an arrest warrant for putin and it is valid in 122 countries of the world, china , russia, he did not act in the united states of america and, if i am not mistaken, in ukraine

also, this warrant of the international criminal court has not yet been issued, and the leader of china will be the first leader of a major country to shake hands with people who are accused of war crimes and crimes against ukrainian children whom he deported to the territory of russia. federation, how comfortable is this visit now for sisinping, and not from the point of view of weakening russia from the point of view of the fact that it is forced to greet and shake hands with a person who is accused of war crimes ? e for a number of reasons, and the first is probably for us as a country that suffered from bolshevism, communism and famine, and more than one genocide in our history with russia or with moscow, more precisely if we

look at the history of china, modern history the current leaders of this country have never apologized for all the crimes they committed against their own people and the cultural revolution and sterilization of one child as part of the program. more than a million victims, most likely we do not know for sure and probably never we don't know how many people died as a result of that, how china fought with covid, actually , some hundreds of thousands of ukrainian children were taken somewhere there. well, what's the matter? we have a whole camp for refugees, we suppress freedom in hankozi well, let the west somehow criticize it, but then we will accuse them of double standards, which actually the chinese foreign ministry did today. they said that this is politicization, a double standard. here, but on the other hand, there is something that, let's say , definitely happened. this is an important event, and it seems to me that it is

very important the moment is also er. in fact, it is the zukhwarivska tsarska, which they neglect , even those who seemed to rule, we have dignity in the international community, i mean like the murders of the ukrainian serviceman oleksandr oleksievsky and they defiantly showed it, and that is, they don’t shy away from it, but it’s normal for them . actually, because it’s bad that they saved ukrainian children after they completely bombed ukrainian mariupol. actually, i think that there is no such thing in their worldview. catch what n- something yes somehow inconvenience or some other things they can afford because it is a nuclear state these members of the security council in relation to the outside world match less america less based on the rules

of the world order divisions more right e-e do whatever you want with the territories that they consider their own. well, and most importantly, the small neighboring states that do not have the right to sovereignty. by the way, if you listen to what the leaders and experts say about the chinese government, it is no different from the russian one, that is, ukraine is not a sub this war is real - it is america's war against russia, and in fact america provoked this conflict, and the following vision is definitely it. in the 12 points of china's position on the political settlement of the ukrainian crisis, they avoid even calling the armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine a war as an aggression , so it is clear that there will not be any very uncomfortable moments, they will talk about strengthening this partnership without borders, and they will outline certain economic and military - other political measures will say

that the multi-polar peace that they said is coming. actually, it is putin's wise policy and synteny that they are speeding up, which means that it is fair to them it seems that peace and the actual elimination of the united states and its allies are seen from the center of decision-making, or at least that they play such an important role in this system, the coordinator of the security council of the white house, kerby, said that russia yes, china is undermining the world order , according to him, moscow and beijing want to rewrite the rules the games are set after the second world war, beijing has already made public its vision of what is happening on the territory of ukraine and its attitude towards russia, it was not a peaceful plan, it was not a peaceful plan, it was a vision like them

called this vision of china regarding the situation in the russian-ukrainian crisis , what do they call these points that were made public ? they do not give an idea of ​​how to actually get out of this situation into which putin has driven his state and drove the situation on the russian-ukrainian front, and today evti is writing about the fact that he will sit down after the meeting with putin, he will call zelenskiy , he will say something, what can be expected from this three-day visit that began today of the leader of china, that there will be some formula that will be reached in the negotiations and vladimir putin, and which will then be articulated to zelenskiy, or is it usually that such formulas are worked out in advance and the leaders come out with certain statements

after some negotiations ? well, you know, it seems to me that these 12 points were made public literally there on the anniversary of the large-scale invasion of ukraine, they absolutely completely satisfy the russian federation , because in fact there is almost no mention of ukraine, why am i talking about this if we we look at the first point about territorial integrity, as if it is the same plan for resolving the conflict or political crisis between ukraine and russia, but it talks about respect for the principle of territorial integrity of all states, and china primarily means taiwan, not ukrainian crimea or ukrainian donbas there or some other illegal the annexed territory and other points, there are only two points that are directly interesting to ukraine, which is actually where ukraine is called

. signed up and say about it. this is an important thing. the second point is that there is actually an exchange of prisoners of war and other things. for example, how not to return to the cold war mentality , that ukraine is turning the world around, or russia, or there and the west on the cold war mentality, absolutely not. this means that china should continue to trade with europe in isomerics so that they do not impose any sanctions on them, do not introduce expert control and other things, in fact, the same thing, and the question of the supply of this means supply chains , again, this is not about ukraine, that is in fact, in that volume, 12 of these points are about ukraine in 2-2.5 points. the rest are all exclusively about the united states and china's relations with the united states, which actually suits them because they also see this conflict as the fact that ukraine is not a subject and someone over there pushed us to fight with russia

, we almost attacked, but the russians got ahead of us, well, that is , all this nonsense in the heads of the chinese, it is completely organic and gets along, so we should wait for them to agree to something else or something acceptable for ukraine. it seems to me that the secretary er, the nsdc very clearly and correctly said that the chinese plan should begin with the withdrawal of russian troops from the occupied territories and then we can talk about something, so i do not expect anything and let's say this visit does not change anything, since before this visit nine years the first e resolution of the un general assembly in 2014 on the territorial integrity of ukraine china abstained e 22nd year resolution on the armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine china abstained february resolution of this year on the principles of sustainable development based on the un charter

china abstained. china and russia blocked even the repetition of the same phrase with m, which means in balinese declaration of the group of 20 , they did not say that the situation had changed. and there is no need to do this, that is, in fact, china has already shown what it stands for. there are statistics for this. i don't i'm talking about gas and oil, which the chinese buy more, they doubled the number of chips that they supply today to the russian federation, as well as through how many other countries, in particular turkey, they supply equipment there with the same protection elements i understand that these are er fairy tales and er armored vehicles er they supply drones there and they supply at least a thousand er automatic rifles, there are other supplies that we don’t see because they definitely know how to hide it, that’s why all these peace-making appeals, this is demagoguery, traditional and communist. anyone who lived in soviet times or was interested in history will simply recognize

all this demagoguery of democratic rhetoric . nothing new from china can be the only main thing that jumps. i just named three numbers 360 billion 190 billion 19 billion 19 billion e 2000 e-e 2020 our trade turnover with china 190 is 2022 trade turnover with the russian federation and 360 billion all connected states exclusively the united states by the weight of its economy and trade relations with china as well as its allies in europe, because the european market is also important for the chinese, these are levers of influence so that china does not enter the war and does not start helping with missiles because there are shells or some other things, definitely not a peace plan. and there are no calls from kyiv to wake up or to influence the sisinfins on their junior partner, by the way, on the airwaves of russian television, in particular, in skabiev, they say that

they do not want any peace plan from china. and what the propagandists say on the air of raghki-tv. let's see what concerns the mayor. we really don't need it right now. more precisely, we don't need it, but we can't go for it, just because we have our constitution, there is an area written in it. chinese colleagues will not be able to. with all my love to my chinese colleagues, oleksandr, for the chinese, their current position regarding the russian-ukrainian war is clear that they are trying to be outside

of this because outside of this war and they are trying to give answers to all questions and to say that these two sides should sit down at the negotiating table, that is, they do not perceive it as aggression by the russian federation against ukraine . although i think that in beijing they are definitely aware that what is happening is weakening and the russian federation and the west, because the west helps the ukrainian side, and china wants this to continue in the future, so that the parties on which china currently depends , meaning russia and the united states, you already mentioned the turnover of goods last year from russia and the united states are connected by the american states so that the partners, the chinese partners, so that they

have control over these partners , what does beijing want, what does beijing want? well, you know, if in three days the russian one would be in kyiv and ukraine would lose its independence, china itself would be very satisfied, because i confirmed the thesis that there, well, at least the russians have been repeating for 30 years since 1991 that america is a power behind it and soon there will be this multicentric world, then it is profitable for the chinese, because i understood that they then slightly adjusted their plans in relation to taiwan, but this is not what happened later, they are now looking at the fact that russia has actually exhausted its resources in order to wage a war of the same intensity as it was there a few months ago. in fact , information appeared that the chinese are considering the possibility of such significant assistance to the russians with weapons so that the russians could do something. so without me there are certain motives for this war for

china, but there are certain negatives and positives, of course. this is a weakening of russia, which will absolutely agree to any formats of unequal cooperation and resources. and actually and in fact russia as it is used as a battering ram against the western world, but there is also a negative sentence . last week there was a meeting between the british, the americans and the australians, and they agreed on what it means for australia to acquire nuclear submarines by submarine. earlier than it was the previous one and in fact received modern, more modern than planned boats, for which it is necessary , of course, for australia to include its presence in the identification regions as a deterrent against the growing obligations as a result of the actual russian invasion and such a position of china it is also clear that this is the introduction of export

controls, because we see that taiwan is also trying to move part of its production to the united states. they are building there on the horizon, which means big, big production of chips and uh, that means samsung literally in the past or a week ago said that somewhere around 300 billion they are going to invest in several dozen years in order to be champions in this and other countries are trying to do it. that is, it is also only the chinese who can collect the iphones that we use but they definitely do not produce the most modern chips that are needed for these efesya that the ideal option for china would be a cease-fire so that in fact the status quo is now where are the russian occupiers so that they stay and the burden begins on excuse me what a diplomatic word for me, what is the city process or some other process ? and where russia will sabotage

and understand, preparing for the final solution of the ukrainian issue , the destruction of us actually seems to me to be the most important thing, and that is exactly why a year later , in fact, china gave birth to 12 points and began to iron out its own and now they say that this mina or that approach will be one of the topics that sisinpin and vladimir putin will talk about, that is, i think they understand that russia cannot win, that it is possible just from pulling and of course they are looking at what is happening in the united states, we are now looking at what president trump may end up with, at least they can get him, he has problems with law enforcement agencies, we see these useful idiots in europe are in favor of stopping the supply of weapons to ukraine well, and about the magician of the trumpian united states, which is calling for an end

to aid, of course, turkey will hold elections on may 14, and it is clear that quite a lot depends on the position of this state, and if there the government will change. well, if the government changes, it is possible. we will even be better off, because then there will be more about the western course for this and that is why they understand that it is better to suspend this war , let russia relax and prepare for the final solution of the ukrainian issue , let's return, oleksandr, to the warrant for the arrest of volodymyr zelenskyi says that this warrant is a turning point according to which after the war russia will bear full responsibility before ukraine and the world, let's hear from volodymyr zelenskyi that i finally got

a really important international legal result for ukraine, for justice, has a warrant from the international criminal court against the head of russia, this is a turning point, the moment after which it becomes without a doubt that the end of this aggression for russia will be the full range of its responsibility, responsibility for every strike on ukraine, for every destroyed life, for every deported ukrainian child, of course , for every manifestation the destabilization of the world that was the result of russian aggression, is it true , alexander, that until this order is not implemented, that is, until putin appears before the international criminal court the russian federation will not be able to lift the sanctions, the international sanctions that have been introduced over the last year. well, i hope so, because, well, in fact , all the sanctions that have been imposed on the russian federation since the 14th year had different motivations, the first block was for non-recognition of illegal annexation crimea, then, in fact

, the selection policy of merkel obama was to force putin to fulfill the minsk agreements. then, after the downing of the malaysian boeing, such sanctions already began , although it is clear that they have always been delay and most importantly there are problems with the implementation of these sanctions in principle they are the consensus of the free world in relation to the russian federation they are not based on a decision of the un security council and accordingly at any moment or there the new administration of the united states can cancel certain sanctions on in relation to russia, if, for example, there is the same trump or some other similar personality or in the european union, because the european union continues these sanctions with a certain, especially the last few times with the first with a certain creak and we we see the same mr. orba has a very strong influence on the term of sanctions and those who are on these lists or which company there he

more than once saved patriarch gundyaev he saved rostatom and let's say other surnames and other companies. that's why it's clear that exactly. from the size of mr. putin, it's a gray thing. he ca n't somehow wash this stain off of himself. but it can't be the fuses. they weren't removed . there will be moral pressure. but it's clear that decisions will be made, and very important point such that 123 countries are those who respect this order. and it is very important that most of these countries are located in the so-called global south. in august, there will be a meeting in india, and this is a challenge for the government itself, whether

it will respect this order or not. will invite an er, in fact, an international criminal to his place, the situation will be interesting in september, since the brics itself will be in south africa, and again south africa has to decide whether it is going to invite such a person . and wants to be part of that free world and definitely a big one. let's say the number of questions depends on the united states, there are europeans. and what actually we will see is that putin actually begins the times when he will be visiting china and now those countries that are difficult to call leading. yes, there or something by others. that is why this decision is very important. i hope that there will be others about the crimes they committed, and it seems to me that this moral pressure , which did not appear, should be used by

the ukrainian authorities in civil society diplomacy in order for the actual kremlin myths to be on the global global south because they look at this conflict almost through the eyes of the kremlin, in short german justice minister marco buschmann said in an interview with the bilt-and-zon newspaper that he would fulfill the demand of the international criminal court to arrest putin if he finds himself in to the federal republic of germany and what piskov says what putin's press secretary says he says that this decision has nothing to do with putin because it is illegal and we will hear the dream of a russian tribunal against ukraine piskov, we know that the video is a piece of work. it is absolutely the czech regime that conducts very heavy and tedious work, materials that

are certainly different from such a regional president , judging by the sound that was in piskov's phone, it is obvious that he is already sitting somewhere in a bunker and is also afraid to leave, uh, about putin regarding his bravado, which he always demonstrated and said time for me in general it is not a problem to go somewhere, you already mentioned china, well, obviously he will be in belarus a series of trips somewhere to these countries that are the axis of conventional evil or the axis of evil , the new axis eh, it is clear that he

will not be able to go to the civilized countries of the civilized world vladimir putin is actually capable of everything. do you think he is really afraid of this arrest warrant and will he continue to demonstrate this truth that he supports, including dmitry medvedev, his associate, who said that in principle there is some a hypersonic missile can to get to the international court of justice very quickly, she will fly there, so let's put an end to this situation and the judges, that is, they already crossed this red line a long time ago and the world is just looking at how these two goblin putin and medvedev well, they just ignore any what are the rules, any institutions, any reservations. well, you know, first of all , i am very interested in watching all the american diplomats and experts who

were inspired by medvedev's liberalism, that it is good for russia and so on. and now we see that it is so twisted, very limited an ignorant creation, which means that education threatens armageddons, he recently wrote an article in evsria and on the one hand waved his nuclear baton and on the other hand said that russia will not allow the second moment. well, let's remember who these two internationals are by education criminals they have graduated from this leningrad state university and the faculty of law, and you can imagine what the level is if they do not understand what is happening with the decision of this warrant and in general, what is it, what

are the consequences for them, and the third of the russian federation are savages if they can’t do anything, that is, they don’t have any diplomatic rhetoric that could protect them, or any legal protection, of course they don’t resort to threats to use nuclear weapons, and actually this is the only thing they have left because the world doesn’t hear them. at least i'm talking about normal , even the chinese and indians say that nuclear weapons cannot be used, so they will certainly pretend to be such a match, and this is the most important thing for the russians, because russia is built on a cult of personality, that's where ivan a terrible firecracker for putin. he must show that the match , that he does not care about anything, is his interests, ego, power, and he will do whatever he wants in order to stay in power, and growl, by the way, well, i don’t see levada this year, the center did not conduct a survey, but the day before last year, 86% of the crimean nashists are still in