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[000:00:00;00] ukraine will receive a similar situation, we can also talk about the same pakistan, which supports ukraine, and this too . they are also trying to say in essence that well, what is our problem, if there is influence here, we can also talk, in principle, partly about the same india well, which again sits on two chairs, but still takes such a more constructive position than the same china , we understand that there are also african countries , maybe we need to work a little more with them. we are limping in this regard diplomacy and politics in africa, we understand that, in principle, we need to work with south america, but let's be honest, the majority of countries in the world, which make up two thirds of the world's gdp, which are world economies, which influence world processes, they support
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ukraine with both hands and feet, and this is fa the fact that china or russia or other certain states and forces are trying to say that this is not so, well, it is clear that this is a certain information special operation, therefore, if we sum up, such an arrival is very important for our of the state, it is extremely important, it clearly demonstrates that japan, which is one of the most powerful economies in the world, which is, in principle, politically, has a lot of weight considering its economic situation, that they clearly support ukraine, are not afraid to declare it, come to ukraine and will support ukraine by those methods and those ways which they have in stock, mr. andriyu , not about the east, but about the west, hungary has confirmed that petros yar, their foreign minister has blocked this joint statement of
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the eu member states regarding the warrant issued for putin from the court in the hague meanwhile, the chancellor of germany proposes to abandon unanimity because this baba-yaga hungary is not the first time against and not the first time putting sticks in the wheels, will the european union manage to carry out these reforms so that decisions are not taken unanimously like this it was earlier, and reforms should actually be carried out not only in the european union , including in the united nations, and the system that worked or started to work , which was established in the 50s, 60s, and 70s of the last century, it is already outdated and in in principle, there is such a concept as unanimity, i.e. when 100% of all members of this or that organization must vote and only then will there be a certain decision, this
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is fundamentally a wrong position. politicians who are for and who are against, and i think that today the european union and the united nations and other similar international organizations should really talk about the fact that this system when decisions are made is absolute by the majority it should disappear into oblivion, there should most likely be a system where a decision is made by two-thirds, this is, in principle , an absolutely normal approach that is always used in all national states , that is, there in parliaments of any kind in order to ensure this or that important decision , therefore of course in the european the union of russia has friends, unfortunately, and these friends are hungarians today . perhaps there are partly other states where there are also russian influences, but still, today
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it is worth talking about the same hungary that in spite of the fact that putin is already de facto recognized as an international criminal, he is de jure already recognized as an international criminal in fact, but still continues to play this rashi under this rashi pipe and of course if even such convincing evidence is not evidence for hungary then i don't know what to talk about next, we really need to talk about reforms in the european union, in principle we need to ask questions about hungary about their position and of course about these reforms. i think it's not all that simple, it takes time for that to carry them out, because even if they are carried out, it is again necessary to have a full consensus on the implementation of these reforms, therefore, of course, there is a certain, certain, certain , closed circle, which i hope will be successful
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, to which it will be possible to apply certain legal mechanisms and eventually break it, because in otherwise, of course, totalitarian states will try to manipulate as much as possible, find some allies who will block important initiatives, important financial things , important political things, what will happen in the end to weaken as much as possible the european union , which today , well, except for hungary, we will say, is practically monolithic . the ministry of education, not only the ministry of education, in general, three ministries, after all, they knew about certain changes, big changes. well, in fact , it is more about such castings, we
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wondered what was wrong with fedorov as if the minister is dealing with digitization. it turns out that he won't go anywhere, he simply left, i can even say for a promotion, because now he will manage a little education and culture, whatever you want, because he is the vice-prime minister for humanitarian issues. that's how he is now and more reeds to be honest, ukrzaliznytsia was a little outraged by the unexpected dismissal, but it turned out that he is returning, but he is returning to the cabinet of ministers as a strategic something for development. our next guests are people's elected officials of ukraine oksana savchuk and natalka eh nataliya pipa appears on our airwaves we congratulate you good day glory to ukraine glory to the heroes eh please tell me because they ended up with andrii on the scarlet so suddenly so
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much time spent on him there was talk of how much time the activists how much time the people's elected representatives well, who cares about ukrainian education , it is ukrainian education that they talked about that this minister is clearly not in his place and it can't be that it was referring to the minister shaleta and scarlett was completely different all this time charlet charlet yes, the french charm, yes, here i am, as if nothing so terrible had happened, well, in principle, i did not want the story to be included in this nmt, in principle, because of its all kinds of zaskhvars, in the horror of this word, then this is not the biggest problem, and here and here he writes a statement that goes to ms. natalia, how was this news received for you and why do you think that he wrote this statement now
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? candidates for possible successors have already been considered, so tell me about that too. well , first of all, why did it happen? they started collecting signatures and there was even talk not satisfied in the office of the president, who can do well mr. but works slowly, in particular, there was talk of the fact that the renewal of nutrition in schools, which they have been doing since the first lady, has gone very slowly or has been a failure, in fact, scarlett has been in office for almost 3 years, june 2020 year at the same time, he was from the first, then he was appointed as a minister in december 2020 by push button , or i even went to the dbr, wrote a statement about it and gave a testimony. probably due to three main reasons, finally someone in the president's team, in particular minister fedorov, whom he considers to be the most successful, realized that in principle it is true that before
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any economic changes and strong security there must be advanced education and culture and suggested that let's change the minister because the key things that he did not manage during the war are the first that our children studied together in two educational programs with oksan at the interview, we said that he sees exactly what we are , the ukrainian language, the history of ukraine is ukrainian literature is something that children should study in a ukrainian school, for example, online, and accordingly, other subjects must be included and understand how it happens in other e-e educational systems of other countries in order to have the opportunity to fully return our children to ukraine as much as possible scarlet had a different position it was probably connected with the fact that if there is a large outflow of children , then, accordingly, many teachers do not receive
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a salary, this is how the educational subsidy formula works, and the second is the main principle that finally they found a person who agreed to head the ministry and i know that scarlet on friday morning i did not know that he would write a statement, he found out about it at lunch uhu so that and it is known who under i know that they have actually already supported it. yes, it was the committee that considered the candidacy of mr. oksana - he is the head of the small academy of sciences, a person who went to the volunteer airborne assault troops when we interviewed her, he is already saying that he has said goodbye to his life several times this year yes it is to survive and he believes that despite the fact that the government is difficult, that the situation is difficult , that he will be able to make such changes as , in particular, the oil of the academy of sciences, when now the nobel laureates of the american academy of sciences are giving lectures, and when there was an epidemic of science
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, what does a drone do every day? i'm sorry, she passes it on to the front, and if i had to tell you that despite the fact that we talked with her, i communicate with her, in particular, the vision of mine and our faction also coincides with the fact that, despite the fact that we are in the opposition, education has always been a weight for us, for the voice, we will work and support in every possible way, of course, we hope. no, we will not be matched. we also know that his father's name was a dissident , but what if we criticize enough, but basically we intend to cooperate in a constructive way, and everything that was in line with the vision of development education is something that coincides with our vision and values of all progressive educators, what is important and in particular i will compare this briefly, the answer is short when you ask, but a mouse minute and what will you do in secondary education, he said, my
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daughter studies at school, then probably xen mikvah to answer that the main reason is now the education of children in the 2nd program, the second stage of the question of bomb shelters, how to ensure the educational process is better than it is now, uh, the third, how to leave in education the main things that children should study now, but in accordance with control, well, as it were, in particular, with dpa with on the question of the fact that this person is both virtuous and professional, and i really hope that he will be able to continue to work with me in an important way. if petrov is probably about well , he will most likely be voted as the vice-prime minister for education and digital development. accordingly, more political issues will be for fedorov, this is a question of money from the ministry of finance, this is a question of political influence , this is a question of pushing initiatives to the office of the president, and so on, so i think that it is precisely in such a topic that they will be able to cooperate . of course, it is logical that the vice prime minister should push initiatives to the president's office, which in fact should make coffee for the president well, in full importance
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well, but this is the reality, i'm talking about the reality , but i agree that the authorizations are not what they should be, but in general, let's take care of that that common sense will return to education, that's positive, what really happened, we can't say anything bad about what's happening now in the cockpit, this hand is happening, mrs. oksana , we also include your opinion, we want to hear it, i think you know what i want to say, i like him as a famous ukrainian historian glue, your deputy also volodymyr petrovych says that you know, most ukrainians will not read a single history book in their lifetime. that is why the textbook on the history of ukraine is so important. from childhood, a person carries his whole life an idea about himself, about ukraine, about his own identity, and this is a war of historians
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, this is a war of history, this is a war about history , this is a war about identity with russia. that's how tuya, ostap, a ukrainian, recently published what are they writing such nonsense about the fact that ukrainians are there, some ukrainian language solo wine, it is older than sanskrit, well, children are not idiots, and parents are not idiots, and maybe the people who write these textbooks are idiots. well, you have to deal with them to do something like this the same as with those, for example, rectors who wrote a collective letter based on the sources of journalists in order to leave the scarlets .
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certain teams that will come, that will be ready to implement these changes and that will be politically good, it is different from me. his motivation has decreased, this is primarily due to the transition to two types of education, this is due to the fact that not all teachers were able to adapt to online, who adapted, he is now a progressive moving forward. in fact, i see what the consolidation of fedor will mean more clearly, the money goes after the child starting from the preschool institution, including the osta draft law on preschool education. i saw that they want to give compensation from local budgets to a private preschool
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institution if a child will stay here i.e. if there is a lack of places in state kindergartens. and we understand that there is always a lack of these places, not only in ukraine, but in general throughout the world, this is a problem. therefore , conceptually, it is really a question of the approach to the educational program, if we only take a school there, preschool. i want that we have not yet forgotten about such a type as extracurricular and as higher education in connection with the war. the sphere of higher education has been very badly affected in us, and here too it is very important to understand how the state will be able to save a young student, because this is actually our perspective, all these young people who are studying at school will receive various types of aid scholarships and then the question will be whether they will be in ukraine or will they go abroad, therefore it is very important for us that they study in our educational institutions and that they, accordingly , can provide high-quality modern service, what
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we talked about with you in a modern educational service, and as for the educational program and the number of teaching hours, here we really need to revise our state priorities, because even the same subject for high school students is the defense of the country , the last program that was released for it she actually spoke with the teachers, she says you know it has become worse than it was because the children are much more modern and especially now in the time of war and in this subject they are much more and competences. therefore, it will be necessary to have a really powerful team that will be able to create high-quality and not only textbooks and what you said
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. in fact, there was who was actually the one who was destroyed in ukraine, believe us, we still need to work in this direction, the second is the educational program, this is the formation of such a patriotic component in children through the educational program, and the third is, of course, the quality of teaching education, quality education service here as well. i am against the closing of schools in our country, especially in mountainous areas or in those places where we do not have enough children, because this may be a temporary thing now, which in the future will be able to increase and build just like that the school is not now just taking into account the context of those schools that destroyed it due to the war therefore no school should be closed and finally the library when we talk about
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the reading strategy eh if you analyze with analyze the situation with school libraries and with the renewal of modern there children's fiction, it's full of sadness, sorry for such a word, and uh, i think there should be a program to support own reading , but children can also take an affordable book, because not every parent can buy it there today for 200 or 300 hryvnias for a book because the financial situation is very difficult in some families, that is why i believe that the minister should form such a fighting team of people who look to the future but at the same time preserve our national identity in our ukrainian education. the desire to preserve the identity in the desire to support the patriotic spirit, the main thing is not to bend the stick and
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not to make some kind of messianism out of ukrainians, and in fact to avoid what is in our textbooks in the ninth grade, what andriy mentioned referring to ostap ukrainian where do they write if we can show this page from the textbook ukrainian language is one of the oldest indo-european languages as early as 1879, the polish scholar linguist mykhailo krasunskyi in his work antiquity of the ukrainian language emphasized that the ukrainian language is not only older than all slavic languages but also older than sanskrit greek, latin and other aryan languages, well, in a word, when they write something like this, at least hmm, let's check all this data, there is a quote from some genius , i don't know who these geniuses are, maybe it's him you know, you work in the education sector, they die here. well, there is a large textbook from the ninth grade of the ukrainian language, and in fact it is a problem, how do we allow them, how does the ministry review them, who evaluate them
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, there are reserves, but they are not working at the moment because they are not the institute of personal responsibility works and the number of people is closed and, accordingly, the voting of nuclear weapons and membership in nato . moreover, take the ukrainian language as an illustration, you know, there is some appeal and then the children do not want to know or learn the ukrainian language, the illustration of a girl is not a question for the girl, it is a question of what tasks the girl is given or what the teachers say about the fact that some nightingale and flowers are drawn viburnum and it is written our language nightingale has already been repeated 100 times so as not to say what was imposed on us in the soviet union that our language is the soviet union that it is a folklorization of a niche this is for you
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harem pants there somewhere there on national holidays we will allow you to dance hopak at the district club under the supervision of us and these colleagues. this is what has been done deliberately in recent years . that is, in order to impose on us those things that are not ours, this is what actually needs to be changed. but if we don't let's change the people who write the textbooks who bear responsibility, if we allow new authors, let's open this closed room a little bit, which someone created for themselves, then there will simply be no change in us and there will be no new quality textbooks and literature, well, in this case , it's simply not professionalism, but a procedure already there is a new law that has been changed, it will come into effect and it will be easier to teach them, and what i’m saying now is what i’m studying and how textbooks are allowed in other countries, but there is a possibility as great as the recindents and the essence, so because
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the powers are similar somewhere, such as judges are underworked and not they work on their name, it's fine for them when they have e.e. they know about them as bribe-takers, there is the same problem with the reviewer, once there is competition, corruption plays a big role in textbooks and we will wait for changes in the near future because a new procedure is coming into effect, there is only one left, but we can still on minute i would like to hear your opinion on the story that has been circulating since last week, the shevchenko prize committee resigned in its entirety as a sign of protest against the influence, they directly say this to the president's office and there is still no presidential decree on awarding the designated laureates, what is your position that the parliament can make it so difficult thank you natalia , first of all, i want to say that in recent years, when the award turns into a political sphere, it does not give any results, it should
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finally be an award that does not have any the relation of e-e and it cannot be managed and determined neither from the office of the president nor from the parliament and those people who in the future will want to join the committee or they will work differently or simply and it will be determined including parallel e-e such public an evaluation that will add points to the evaluation of experts, otherwise we will have such an unpleasant sediment , unfortunately, mrs. natalya, and i want to say that if there is a chance for education to be resuscitated now, because in reality it was dying, then sculpture is more difficult because what is there yet? i don't see any changes, i want to see a quality ukrainian e-e product, let it be mass-produced, mass-produced products must be ukrainian , because everyone has a different level of cultural perception, intelligence, and so on. and this is very necessary, but
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actually, what should it be? sharovarshchyna and this team of the president is lacking, they could clearly make a popular film that was not far away and did not always carry good meaning or and in order to sell a ukrainian high-quality modern idea, we need changes because this is actually lacking. the question of ukrainianness is that we now see that it concerns you, people's elected representatives of ukraine oksana savchuk and natalka nataliya pipa were with us, our viewer lesya hnatyuk writes terrible textbooks on history fifth sixth seventh grade terrible grandson hates the subject of history here is your reaction to our conversation thank you for staying with us on the air has espresso continues and our marat will also return to this studio very soon with andrii sechuk, we are looking for eight-year-old sofiyka oliynyk, who under mysterious circumstances disappeared exactly one year ago in march 2022
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, is asking for help in finding the child her grandmother, i talked to her and found out that the woman lost contact not only with her granddaughter , but with her daughter, where is she with the child, what is with them , and so and so . they lived in the capital on mykola solovtsova street and when the war started they left kyiv not immediately , for about a week they spent in their house when the war started, she and her child were in the basement hiding from e shells and she went with the people on the special train and already when she was on the train. her father called her and
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says and how are you there, but the connection was lost. she said that they were on the train and heard that the children were making noise and the connection was lost. so , about a week after the start of the war, in the first days of march, the daughter of mrs. rita oliynyk svitlana together with her child sofiyka oliynyk decided to evacuate the capital, the family went in the direction of transcarpathia and called her parents from the train, although the connection was lost. the next day, they called again and it turned out that the girls had reached their destination for sitting and we were no longer able to contact her more there was no news from svitlana oliynyk and her eight-year-old daughter sofiyka, at first mrs. rita thought that maybe her daughter had lost her phone and there was no contact, and later
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it became clear that her girls simply disappeared. although it is nice to have information that we should call you or not , the only one is nadia ms. rita, so it is very important to remember the face. eight-year-old sofiyka oliinyk has disappeared. she looks her age . she is approximately 120-130 cm tall. she has light blond hair and gray eyes. sofia's mother's name is svitlana. she is 36 years old, she is thin. she is approximately 170 cm tall, the woman has dark blond hair and green eyes. recently, information appeared that sofiyka and svitlana may be in france, but it has not yet been possible to contact them in ms. rita, so if anyone has information about missing persons, do not delay and immediately dial the short number of the magnolia children's search service 116,000 0 calls from any mobile operator are free
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, this number is valid in 29 countries of the european union and if suddenly someone sees me abroad on social networks, please also pay attention to the photo you can always ask sofia and her mother for the necessary information , and there will be child tracing services in telegram in the chat. believe me, even a small piece of news can be very important. i have another story of the disappearance of a child, this is nine-year-old anastasia mihno . nothing is known about the fate of this girl for 11 months. unfortunately, and details about her disappearance, as well as deception, i only know that the child lived in the city of lysychansk in the luhansk region, it is likely that nastya was there with her mother, and the connection with them was broken at the end of april, in july the city was completely it came under the control of the occupiers, and did the family manage to leave somewhere or are they still there ? but they simply can't tell me, because i don't know where i am because of the lack of communication, so i'm asking especially the residents of lysychansk, who
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may see me now on social networks , to look carefully at the photo anastasia has light blond hair and dark eyes. she looks like a girl , maybe a little older than 9 years old. if anyone has seen her or knows where she might be, don't delay and call us on the hotline of the child tracing service. magnolia by short number 116,000 calls from any mobile operator are free or write to the chat bot service of the search for children in telegram in ukraine ten o'clock news time on the espresso tv channel in the studio iryna koval
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