[000:00:00;00] to do, vladimir, let's go back to the court. if you have anything else to say about piskov . although i think that the sand is already turning into not a talking head at all, but in general , putin's speaking body can be another, yes, they are , sergei, i think that uh, you you're right. well, i really do read every day. this is what is published over there and sometimes i even watch it. although i once said in a simplified way , but i have to tell you that this group on the sand in zakharova is vsemonyanskobeeva, and there are a couple more . the same tailoring solovyov of course eh

this scumbag will sit down with her uh-husband, well, because uh, we have the experience of the nurzhyn trial, when the propagandists of the nazi regime uh, also sat on the dock, so he, like his patron , should prepare now uh- there is nowhere to escape from that submarine, they are already doomed to go to the end although he is still smiling , but i think maybe he just thinks that uh, well, prison in gas is much better than prison somewhere in veronese and that's why he probably just thinks that, well, what i will live a little longer in some more or less under normal european conditions, today, at the same time as the meeting with putin, there will be a meeting between volodymyr zelenskyi and the prime minister

of japan, ffumio kesida, and we know that japan is also currently presiding over the group of seven, such a visit by a japanese person to ukraine during xi jinping's visit to moscow, is it a coincidence? is this also a certain demonstration and certain diplomatic bows or diplomatic signs for beijing definitely definitely eh this is a very powerful eh signal of support for ukraine you know eh japanese eh for a very long time are preparing to these or other er events of this level er it takes months er but what is happening er at this moment is that er it is happening on behalf of the seven which actually

determines the agenda of world politics and economy, this is without a doubt a very serious signal of support, and at the same time, in parallel with what is happening in moscow, it is a signal to both dictators that dear friends, look at the civilized world on the side of ukraine, that's why you need it, it's very, very clear understand and consider the group otherwise you will have problems i think that this chinese line and yours and ours to a certain extent are related to the chinese, they perfectly read all these signals and understand that going to war with a powerful civilized world is more expensive for themselves.

and the fact that today the japanese prime minister is in ukraine and he definitely did not come. just like that. and i think that uh, uh, uh , there is some good news in his uh, so to speak, diplomatic file, so i think that we will find out about it literally in the near future hours let's go back to the e-e warrant that was finally issued by the international criminal court to the gasses in the ministry of foreign affairs of china before during the visit, these calls to moscow said that the court in gaza should take a fair position, and china will supposedly play an objective and fair role in the ukrainian crisis, speak constructively in the peace negotiations, first of all i want to ask you we often mention this one about the rome statute and which countries accepted it or signed it, ratified it, which did not

accept it, it is known that these 122 countries in the world accept decisions of the international criminal court and warrants of the international criminal court in gas i know that in 2000 ukraine signed the rome statute but did not ratify it, that's true. yes, it's true and you know that there is always a certain collision between the application of the norms of national law and norms of international law, that is, what does the rome statute actually say. it says that any crime committed in a country or by a country that has signed this statute, well, this crime fall under the jurisdiction of the court, i.e. no longer

of national legislation, but of international law , and this creates for certain countries the threat of, let's say, their citizens who, according to the court, have committed certain torts, that is , crimes, they will immediately fall under its jurisdiction . there are 123 countries that have signed this charter, so there are a certain number of countries that are hesitating, doubting whether it is necessary to do it. concerning crimes of the russian federation on the territory of ukraine since the 14th year, we agreed

with the icc that we recognize its jurisdiction in this case on the territory of ukraine . jurisdiction in this area, the fact that we have this yanukovych was actually why ukraine actually made such a decision, it was correct , it was actually it was actually the aggression of the russian federation against ukraine in in the 14th year, the process of interaction with the international criminal court begins when we allowed the prosecutors of the criminal court to conduct their investigations and determine what happened. by the way, we are talking about that this special prosecutor khan is investigating not only the crimes that were recorded after

february 22, 2022, but also those that occurred from the 14th. therefore, this is exactly the same case when we are we recognize the jurisdiction of the international criminal court and you see that it gave results because from that of a huge number of crimes committed by russians. we in ukraine have already singled out only this particular one, and this has already put putin in the position of an international weapon, but there are tens of thousands of such crimes , not just a thousand, but tens of thousands, and this has already been documented by the prosecutors of this court and this will be the reason for the next steps of the international criminal court and there will be another announcement

about the arrest and invitation of putin if his entourage is important and here i think that, dear experts, i support you the same opinion that says that after uh this announcement, the situation for putin and for the putin regime has become completely different, it will be impossible to go back, the legal field that existed before that will be impossible, they are already on the way to punishment, it may not be tomorrow, it may not be the day after tomorrow, but let's imagine that in as a result of some event, a new leader will appear in the kremlin tomorrow, and it is even from him, or when or how he will betray putin and

those who will be on this list here, and by the way , we understand that not everything is advertised, not everything becomes public and maybe already for some things, some officials who are still walking around today are talking about how big they are. maybe they are already on these same lists. in other cases, therefore, on x-day, they will automatically become the ones who will be handed over to the prosecutors of the criminal court. this is an important tool. of course, here i literally do not exclude one opinion and does not deny the need to create an international special tribunal . why, because this international special tribunal has the jurisdiction to decide

about the highest state leadership. in fact, the icc has already done everything in its part, but let's say the crime of aggression, the crime of armed aggression does not fall under its jurisdiction, for everything we need the decision of such a special tribunal and how when will it be created. and now, if he is wrong, 32 or 33 countries have already agreed to become its participants after this, putin will be divided, another swallow will fly for his crime of organizing armed aggression, and by the way, you know, sometimes i think that something is really wrong with him, because if a person uh, he plays about his crime on camera and doesn't understand that there will be consequences for it, so there must be something uh, maybe there's something wrong, or she was very sure that nothing will happen and he

will host a parade on khreschatyk in three days, if it was possible uh- so to speak, it has been proven to him one hundred percent and he has been told by his entourage. but you have to have your own head. so, it seems to me that putin has already spoken about so many arrest warrants that i think it will be fine dozens until the arrest warrant is implemented and volodymyr putin is so far he is saying that they should be offended by this court decision, and medvedev is saying that a rocket can even fly into the court building in the hague, the russians say that they will support putin even more after he received a warrant from the international criminal court, this is what the propagandists on russian

television are saying let's see this action taken by the international hunger court. and this was done clearly at the behest of the united states of america and the global elite, but it had the exact opposite effect, i.e. in fact, our president received even more support in our country and this is very good. it is very good when the leader of the state has an arrest warrant. when we talk about these 122 countries, volodymyr, if we think about where this warrant can be implemented, we understand that in europe there is no place for putin. germany , in particular, through the mouth of the minister of justice of germany, marko buschmann, said that as soon as putin is on the territory of the state, he will be immediately handed over and arrested to the criminal

court in gaza. we also know that this warrant there is no statute of limitations that the crimes have been committed and no one can cancel them anymore and only a court can cancel them. as far as i understand, this warrant is also putin. i think he will still show that he openly sneers at it . the meeting of the leaders of the g20 in new york is ahead. eh, it is obvious that putin will want to eh test the fate of flying there and what will happen to him if he suddenly gets to south africa for the brics meeting, there should be a meeting there, what else will happen when i understand your question eh i pushed back at first

from what you showed on this lying russian tv of course they can say that they appreciate what uh really they think that nothing happened he is putin uh their leader they love him very much but the thing is that now he is ordered, as they say, to come to any civilized ukraine - this is one hundred percent and you correctly cited the words of the bushman that he will be arrested at the very first moment . in other words through the absolutely vile pardon the word na the position of hungary is also boring, because a joint statement of the european union supporting this decision was prepared, but due to another public disagreement of hungary, such a statement was not made

, therefore, pregnant landscapes, nothing more than simply saying that the european union takes note -e this e-e statement, but at the same time, the european union has allocated additional several million euros for the functioning of this court . so this again means that the european union supports the e-e decision of the european court , here remains the question of the so-called of neutral countries, this is the country of this conditional global south , eh, which eh, well, very much. i think they will eh, think for a long time, eh, should they get involved in this story? well, because well , let's take even india there, not a small country

let's put it delicately, well, it plays an increasingly important role, at least in asia, it claims to play a greater role in global affairs, and the question is whether it is worth risking it with its aspirations to get closer to the role of the country that affects the world more processes through er there is a one or two or three-day visit of a person who is suspected of having committed a terrible er criminal crime and here i think that every leader of such a country will think three times about whether it is worth risking his own country first . imagine india is ukraine, which is moving in a democratic way. imagine what they will say about a prime minister who agrees to such a thing. his political opponents

will simply tear him to pieces . in the political plan, they will show him as a tool for a criminal. and make money from it political points, let's look at it from the point of view of uh-uh external uh-huh aspects . and why are the americans so swallowed without any problems? and why is the european union closed to these eyes and definitely not , and again, india as and china are very connected by their economic potential with what is happening in north america and western europe. so there will be so many risks that i think there will be 1,000 reasons why to delicately explain that this gentleman's visit

is clearly not on time i am not talking about that country like south africa or brazil or others that gave far e in terms of their political economic weight even from india . by the way, after the international criminal court issued a warrant for the arrest of putin , putin, or at least a person similar to putin, as they say quite often now, visited sevastopol and the propagandist's mariupol is torn apart again, they say that he will not ask anyone, no one, where to go, how to go, where to fly, let's see another fragment of russian television to them , although donetsk is already starting to sulk что донецк i didn’t get there, although already, although it’s clear why, because in mariupol, it’s actually deep dust now, the front line is very far away, but

in response , donetsk is bombarded all the time. information americans are allowed to go to mariupol ourselves, no one asked for guarantees from anyone, our territory, we are not obliged to ask anyone for anything. well, you see how they compare with biden. although baini definitely did not ask for anything from anyone, he just sat down announced that he was flying to ukraine. suddenly, what do they mean, mr. serhii? i don’t know what deep rear this talking head is talking about, but uh, well, having certain weapons systems, and today uh, we read another good news about what

er, there are several calibers that er-er moved there somewhere, jankoi has already been disassembled into details, about which er-er rear , er-er, relative to mariupol, we can talk about this is a person who simply either does not know the situation or takes wishful thinking as reality, so i think that the closest sometimes the deep rear will be somewhere there uh, 200-300 km from the ukrainian border in the direction of the russian territory, there will be deep dust, and everything else is, you know, the political fantasies of a delusional person. well, what, well , you know, as they say in our people, a fool gets richer with an opinion. let the rich be rich. by the way, regarding the accusations that were brought by the international criminal court, there was information , well, at least garden is writing today that the russian federation plans to hold an informal meeting of the un security council in early april

regarding the deportation of ukrainian children through which the gas court issued a warrant for the arrest of vladimir putin, we know that at the beginning of april, russia begins to chair the un security council, in general, in the context of what is happening now , including with the leader of the russian federation, and the accusations and the arrest warrant correspond to the fact that russia will chair the un security council, you know mr. serhiy. this is an extremely important question. thank you. i think that now in many capitals of civilized countries they are thinking about how to put an end to this. well, this cynicism in me. to be honest, there is no other word because the country that unleashed the bloody war and not only in ukraine, but in many other parts of the world acts and claims the role of some kind of peacemaker and presides over bodies that are,

according to the statute, especially responsible for preserving of international peace and security, it's really, well, it's really something that does not fit into a normal head . i think that our diplomats, ukrainian diplomats , uh, will continue the important work, which will consist in finding mechanisms to uh, well, in fact, deprive russia of uh- it is possible to take participation in the work of this organization, i am specifically speaking in this way very calmly and delicately. because when we talk about the exclusion of russia from the un, it seems to me that we are making a certain mistake. because it is possible to exclude someone who is a legal member of this organization

in relation to russia, we should talk about the expulsion of russia from the un, and in order for this to happen, there is, by the way, one interesting tool, and we talked about it literally a few days ago at a meeting of the russian research center, and this tool is called it's very simple. it's deprivation the delegation of the russian federation to participate in the e-e meetings of the un and all its bodies, including a number of security, for this it is necessary that the credentials committee does not recognize the authority of this delegation, is it possible, it is possible here, it is only necessary to work with the few countries that are part of it body of the un and i think that taking into account everything that russia has done on the territory of ukraine, it will be

very easy to convince the members of this committee that the delegation of the russian federation was recognized as having no proper powers to sit in the united nations so it will take a certain period of time i think we will have to live through april under the presidency of this thug country but i think it will be one of the last times when we will experience such a disgrace and can it happen again the situation on february 14, 1939, when the soviet union was expelled from the league of nations, the organization that preceded it because of the attack on finland , you know, because i think that it can be expelled from the un, again, it is not expelled, but expelled because it is there illegally

uh, since the collapse of the ussr. but the first step for this is to deprive it of the possibility to be present there in principle, and then a certain period of time will pass. i think that a lot will change in russia itself, and uh, those formations that will arise in such a territory will they will bury the very idea of ​​russia's representation in the organization of the united nations. all the more so. it should be taken into account that russia declared itself in 1991, because they said that they were the successors of the soviet union and took the place of the soviet union, that is, they did not have a procedure for joining the the un because the ukrainian ssr officially joined the un and russia did not, this is true and this is one of the arguments that our diplomacy should use. russia has declared itself to be the successors of the soviet union, this is purely a legal construct that

actually provides there are no rights for a country that rewards itself with such a term, anyway, there is a statute, there are mechanisms for admission to the organization, and any country must do this. and by the way, it doesn’t work here, i sound right, because some lawyers say that what were we saying then they did not declare that and now it is difficult will break through nothing like that, there is no more country of the ussr on the world map, and it is listed there in the statute. so this is a question of our activity and perseverance. i think that we will be successful in this diplomatic blood. thank you, mr. volodymyr, on this optimistic note, we will end our our conversation it was volodymyr rohyskov, a politician-diplomat and this was the verdict program conducted by serhiy rudenko i say goodbye to you until tomorrow until 1:00 p.m. tomorrow, journalist

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